I voted for FBC purely because it the "GP JUNE" title I played the most, though Alters is a much better game.
I am still working my way through Expedition 33 (pretty sure I'm near the end) and just started playing Dredge (though deeply considering buying the complete edition on Switch 2)
@Ricky-Spanish Agreed. Each of the missions is different, which helps a lot.
I do think "this is a co-op game that respects your time and doesn't need you to check in every day" might be cover for it's content being light, unfortunately, those of us who game clicked with just devoured it lol.
"I recognize that these changes come at a time when we have more players, games, and gaming hours than ever before. Our platform, hardware, and game roadmap have never looked stronger."
At least he acknowledges the nonsense.
"The success we're seeing currently is based on tough decisions we've made previously. We must make choices now for continued success"
That sure makes it sound like a shell game. 'we're only successful now because we fired a bunch of people when they finished their work before, so now we can only have success later is to fire more people today"
I know a lot of people are taking this as a sign of a next gen update or Switch 2 port, which would be great, but surely they'd keep this content back for then? "buy the upgrade and face these new challenges" sort of thing,
Games? I get that Xbox has been on a roll with it's first party and Gamepass and that messes with perception, but the back half of the year feels rather light.
This seems to confirm the old rumour that Ark 2 was intended as a single-player game and the Ark 1 Remaster was supposed to stand in as its multiplayer, and that's why they weren't going to be available separately.
I guess they just don't need to make ARK 2 ATM with them releasing new DLCs for the remastered original
@Ricky-Spanish South of Midnight is the exact sort of game Xbox was championing being on gamepass, something that wouldn't have been made under "normal conditions" and the example of the freedom the subscription model provides
So naturally it'll be that studio that gets taken out and shot, just like Tango and Hi-Fi Rush before it with zero sense of irony.
What I think it needs is one of those mechanics where it shows a map with different levels of enemy activity that change each time you do it. Let the level get to high and theres some modifiers making the mission more rewarding but others harder.
Keep the job list for when you want to play specific missions but add that to help engage us in the fight against the hist.
I'm really enjoying it. Reminds me of playing Left 4 Dead 1 on the 360.
Don't get me wrong, it's insane that they decided to shove 100% of the narrative information in documents on load screens on a generation of consoles that tout rapid loading as feature.
Having access to Steam/GOG/Epic would be massive, but at the same time it will surely jack up the price of the console. Consoles are sold at la oss, making money from games instead.
A game on the new Xbox bought from Steam wouldn't earn any money from it.
Don't get me wrong, fantastic news. I do hope it expands it would be great to see if this leads to us at least being able to play the "missing" 360/Xb games via discs (i get digital is a legal web of annoyance).
I mean Xbox kinda has to support BC, you can't champion it for two gens and then not, and when you have a lot of people questioning the point in buying an Xbox you can't turn to your existing owners. the people who do pay, and say "BTW your library is starting over" because the weight of those libraries is certainly keeping some people on Xbox and a "clean start" is just opening the door for them to leave.
I'm enjoying this a lot. Don't get me wrong, it's not really a "remedy" game like I haven't really incounted any lore besides some coms chatter, but if you go into it with the same sort of mentality as Left 4 Dead (1 in particular), it's a lot of fun with friends to be had.
based on some rumours, this is going to be done via hardware and not some cool software layer for Windows which would at least "forever proof" our libraries but this is a good sign.
I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with the utter dumpster fire that was Randy Pitchford's "real fans".
I mean, we'd never expect the company that only sells current-gen versions as part of a more expensive bundle would never consider increasing prices. s/
I'm not shocked. FF16 didn't make much of an impact of PS5 or PC, After all, it did so poorly that it made SE reconsider their entire approach to exclusivity. Selling it on Xbox doesn't change the fact that it's not a popular FF game.
I'm still surprised SE didn't get a Game Pass deal for it, you'd think they'd want some positive word of mouth and some nice cash in their pockets.
FF7 will do better, though how much remains to be seen. I know I'll likely be picking it up on Switch 2 (assuming it's not on fire)
Considering how much they are stressing, the tech demo doesn't represent the actual Witcher 4 or the progress they've made in it, AND this constant talk of next gen being 2026/7 there's a fiart chance the Series S isn't going to be relevent.
It bothered me that whilst it doesn't play console games, the entire segment repeatedly talked about playing all your games in one place, a true "unified" library... that doesn't include the vast majority of digital Xbox games.
-I didn't see many of the games or studios I wanted to see.
-I also didn't see the Game Pass logo as much as I was expecting.
-There wasn't a big "oh my god!" moment, just lots of "looks good"
-No hall effect controller (I'm done with the pile of drifting X1/XS pads)
-Still no Activision on GP annoucement
-The quiet realisation that Starfield is probably dead, as we didn't see or hear about Starborn whilst both ESO and 76 appeared but announced nothing new.
/ That CoD trailer was... interesting. Considering BlOps 5's campaign that might be very good, but its CoD and there's a 50/50 shot it's generic as hell.
/Final Fantasy finally coming to Xbox, kinda surprised they aren't coming to Gamepass, you'd think SE would have loved to have a chunk of cash upfront for the underperformer.
/not sold on Double Fine's new game, but considering their history, I'm sure that's just a first-impressions thing.
/despite the talk of a unified library on the Xbox handheld, there was nothing that actually helped the "trapped" console games beyond the sliver on Play Anywhere and Stream Your Own Games.
/The Namco Bandai bit had me thinking their games was coming to gamepass.
+Clockwork Revolution is shaping up exactly how I was hoping it would.
+Outer Worlds 2 seems to be shifting towards more Bioshock than Fallout, and I think that works for it.
+Impressed Obsidian has yet another game on the way.
+More Plague Tale.
+The game from the Spirit Farer devs looks interesting.
Overall, it was a weird one. It wasn't a "blow the doors off" one, but it also wasn't one of those treading water, "the good times are coming" shows either.
It's what we expected it to be. I could have done without the talk of the unified library, considering the majority of the 500+ digital Xbox games I own from across 3 generations of Xbox consoles are not playable anywhere or even held hostage on the "stream your own games with Game Pass" thing.
again looks like it should be good but that really bothered me.
@FraserG So it's just a Witcher-flavoured tech demo. I guess that means we shouldn't read into it running on PS5 as confirmation as current-gen release.
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Re: Pick One: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Release In June 2025?
I voted for FBC purely because it the "GP JUNE" title I played the most, though Alters is a much better game.
I am still working my way through Expedition 33 (pretty sure I'm near the end) and just started playing Dredge (though deeply considering buying the complete edition on Switch 2)
Re: Remedy 'Hoped' For A Better FBC: Firebreak Launch, But Game Pass Is Helping
@Ricky-Spanish Agreed. Each of the missions is different, which helps a lot.
I do think "this is a co-op game that respects your time and doesn't need you to check in every day" might be cover for it's content being light, unfortunately, those of us who game clicked with just devoured it lol.
Re: Xbox Layoffs Begin As Phil Spencer Shares Internal Microsoft Gaming Update
"I recognize that these changes come at a time when we have more players, games, and gaming hours than ever before. Our platform, hardware, and game roadmap have never looked stronger."
At least he acknowledges the nonsense.
"The success we're seeing currently is based on tough decisions we've made previously. We must make choices now for continued success"
That sure makes it sound like a shell game. 'we're only successful now because we fired a bunch of people when they finished their work before, so now we can only have success later is to fire more people today"
Re: Xbox's Hot Streak Continues With Two New First-Party Releases This Month
I voted THPS simply because G2 is Early Acess and it's going to be a little while before it's worth... moving to the front of the queue yet.
Re: Rockstar's First Red Dead Online Update In Years Channels 'Undead Nightmare' Energy
I know a lot of people are taking this as a sign of a next gen update or Switch 2 port, which would be great, but surely they'd keep this content back for then? "buy the upgrade and face these new challenges" sort of thing,
Re: GTA 5 Has A Ridiculously Good 'Just For You' Deal On Xbox Right Now
Gotta squeeze for that last bit of juice.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Xbox In The Second Half Of The Year?
@Fiendish-Beaver Gears Tactics 2 seems like such a perfect "fill the gap between mainline releases" title that they just ignored.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Xbox In The Second Half Of The Year?
Games? I get that Xbox has been on a roll with it's first party and Gamepass and that messes with perception, but the back half of the year feels rather light.
Re: Xbox Play Anywhere Is Growing Massively In 2025, And There's A Lot More To Come
@Isolte I'm sure it's a legal hellscape but retroactively doing it to their games should be doable.
Re: Xbox Play Anywhere Is Growing Massively In 2025, And There's A Lot More To Come
I'll care a lot more about this program when they start going back and making it apply to more games in our existing libraries.
Re: Ark 2 Developer Admits It Could Be Years Before It Releases On Xbox & Game Pass
This seems to confirm the old rumour that Ark 2 was intended as a single-player game and the Ark 1 Remaster was supposed to stand in as its multiplayer, and that's why they weren't going to be available separately.
I guess they just don't need to make ARK 2 ATM with them releasing new DLCs for the remastered original
Re: Imminent Xbox Layoffs Could Include Entire Studios, Warns Industry Veteran
@Ricky-Spanish South of Midnight is the exact sort of game Xbox was championing being on gamepass, something that wouldn't have been made under "normal conditions" and the example of the freedom the subscription model provides
So naturally it'll be that studio that gets taken out and shot, just like Tango and Hi-Fi Rush before it with zero sense of irony.
Re: Halo Fan Game To Release On Xbox After Microsoft & Halo Studios Give Approval
Oh cool. It's really not my thing but more power to them.
Now, how about getting Fallout London on Xbox, It's the closest thing to a new game we're going to get this decade.
Re: Meta Quest 3S 'Xbox Edition' Launches Today For $399, But You'll Need To Be Quick
Would have been the perfect time to annouce some of those MS owned VR games coming g to PC gamepass (Skyrim/Fallout VR and the like).
Re: Meta Quest 3S 'Xbox Edition' Launches Today For $399, But You'll Need To Be Quick
@FraserG I'm not sure exactly but that elite strap is not cheap so I think this might be cheaper than buying it all separately
Re: FBC: Firebreak Launch Has Been 'Exciting', But Dev Team Knows It Needs To Improve
What I think it needs is one of those mechanics where it shows a map with different levels of enemy activity that change each time you do it. Let the level get to high and theres some modifiers making the mission more rewarding but others harder.
Keep the job list for when you want to play specific missions but add that to help engage us in the fight against the hist.
Re: With The Summer Showcase Over, Xbox Is Now Focusing On Gamescom 2025
They haven't had an actual showcase at Gamescon for a while now, not even sure there's been major reveals.
Re: 'Xenia' Team Issues Statement In Response To Xbox Backwards Compatibility Rumour
I never quite understood the idea of why MS would team up with them. When it comes to BC the problems seem to be legal, not technical.
As for getting 360 games to work on PC, I'm sure its something MS could do but chooses not to.
Re: Don't Like The New Xbox Game Hubs? Here's How To Turn Them Off
I get the idea, I understand why you'd want the option to load the hub or the game but why the poop would you make A open the hub instead of X.
On Xbox A has always been the "do the thing" button, the left click if you will, suddenly making it the context (aka right click) now is weird.
Re: Rumour: Xbox-Branded Meta Quest VR Headset To Be Unveiled Next Week
I forgot about that... Wonder if box will put the VR games on it (or just on PC gamepass)
Probably would have been a more interesting thing if conceived now with Xbox's multi device approach.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Next Week's 'Capcom Spotlight' Showcase?
Dragons Dogma 2 DLC would be nice, maybe that rumoured (but definitely not happening) co-op mode?
I would love to see a new Dino Crisis that plays like RE6 (that was a bad RE game but could make a cool DC)
Re: THPS 3+4 Unveils Two New Characters & Maps Ahead Of Xbox Game Pass Launch
I reckon they should have the other Turtles but each one is from a different version of the franchise.
Re: Poll: How Are You Getting On With FBC: Firebreak On Xbox Game Pass?
I'm really enjoying it. Reminds me of playing Left 4 Dead 1 on the 360.
Don't get me wrong, it's insane that they decided to shove 100% of the narrative information in documents on load screens on a generation of consoles that tout rapid loading as feature.
Re: Poll: How Are You Getting On With FBC: Firebreak On Xbox Game Pass?
@Kaloudz Yes, Yes it is. It may also be one of your friends inside it being puppeted by said post its.
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Next-Gen News Is Exciting, But It Also Leaves More Questions Than Answers
Having access to Steam/GOG/Epic would be massive, but at the same time it will surely jack up the price of the console. Consoles are sold at la oss, making money from games instead.
A game on the new Xbox bought from Steam wouldn't earn any money from it.
Re: With Its Next Console, Xbox Is Making A Big Commitment To Backwards Compatibility
Don't get me wrong, fantastic news. I do hope it expands it would be great to see if this leads to us at least being able to play the "missing" 360/Xb games via discs (i get digital is a legal web of annoyance).
I mean Xbox kinda has to support BC, you can't champion it for two gens and then not, and when you have a lot of people questioning the point in buying an Xbox you can't turn to your existing owners. the people who do pay, and say "BTW your library is starting over" because the weight of those libraries is certainly keeping some people on Xbox and a "clean start" is just opening the door for them to leave.
Re: Roundup: FBC: Firebreak Is A Step Down For Remedy, Early Reviews Suggest
I'm enjoying this a lot. Don't get me wrong, it's not really a "remedy" game like I haven't really incounted any lore besides some coms chatter, but if you go into it with the same sort of mentality as Left 4 Dead (1 in particular), it's a lot of fun with friends to be had.
Re: Xbox Announces Next-Gen Console Strategy, Promises 'Deeper Visuals' & Backwards Compatibility
based on some rumours, this is going to be done via hardware and not some cool software layer for Windows which would at least "forever proof" our libraries but this is a good sign.
Re: These 11 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (June 18 - July 1)
@Ricky-Spanish I think this was the last one before the launcher
Re: 2K Not Following Microsoft & Nintendo With $80 Game Prices, For Now
I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with the utter dumpster fire that was Randy Pitchford's "real fans".
I mean, we'd never expect the company that only sells current-gen versions as part of a more expensive bundle would never consider increasing prices. s/
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
I'm not shocked. FF16 didn't make much of an impact of PS5 or PC, After all, it did so poorly that it made SE reconsider their entire approach to exclusivity. Selling it on Xbox doesn't change the fact that it's not a popular FF game.
I'm still surprised SE didn't get a Game Pass deal for it, you'd think they'd want some positive word of mouth and some nice cash in their pockets.
FF7 will do better, though how much remains to be seen. I know I'll likely be picking it up on Switch 2 (assuming it's not on fire)
Re: The Witcher 4 Will Be 'Extremely Challenging' To Run At 60FPS On Xbox Series S
@Ricky-Spanish yeah, considering the context here is Cyberpunk's launch, it's "okay" that the Series S runs at 30fps.
Re: The Witcher 4 Will Be 'Extremely Challenging' To Run At 60FPS On Xbox Series S
Considering how much they are stressing, the tech demo doesn't represent the actual Witcher 4 or the progress they've made in it, AND this constant talk of next gen being 2026/7 there's a fiart chance the Series S isn't going to be relevent.
Re: Phil Spencer Hypes Up Clockwork Revolution Following Xbox Games Showcase Reveal
Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of games I'm interested in that are coming out but this is my personal favourite.
Re: Outer Worlds 2 Director Responds To Xbox's Expensive $80 Price Tag
It's wild to me they are starting with a game that's going to be a code in a box.
Re: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Update '1.3.0' Now Live On Xbox, Here Are The Patch Notes
That window increase is going to be nice. I always seem to be slightly off in the multi-hit instant murder death kill attacks.
Re: Gears Of War Reloaded Beta: Release Date, Start Times And How To Access
I'm still suprised it needs a beta, it's a graphical remaster of X1 remake that already got X enhancements and FPS boost on Series.
Re: Xbox Is Still Committed To Bringing Call Of Duty To Switch, Confirms Activision
I would be perfectly happy with a MCC style package where you get (for example) the classic MW campagins with seperate MW base multiplayer.
Re: Starfield Fans Voice Their Concerns About Future Support And Updates
Rather funny enough Starfield Deluxe edition is on sale
Re: What Games Can You Play On The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld?
The amount of people telling me it supports native digital console games is concerning.
Re: Starfield Fans Voice Their Concerns About Future Support And Updates
@ChrisDeku at this point I'd settle for just knowing if working on it or not.
Bethesda has really dropped the ball with support for SF. Remember When they claimed we'd have regular updates?
If they are done the they should say so.
Re: 'There Are No Ghosts At The Grand' Will Be An Xbox Game Pass Title Unlike Any Other
This might have been the most interesting all new game at the show for me.
Re: No, The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld Doesn't Play Native Console Games
It bothered me that whilst it doesn't play console games, the entire segment repeatedly talked about playing all your games in one place, a true "unified" library... that doesn't include the vast majority of digital Xbox games.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
I'm giving it a C. By no means a bad show but...
-I didn't see many of the games or studios I wanted to see.
-I also didn't see the Game Pass logo as much as I was expecting.
-There wasn't a big "oh my god!" moment, just lots of "looks good"
-No hall effect controller (I'm done with the pile of drifting X1/XS pads)
-Still no Activision on GP annoucement
-The quiet realisation that Starfield is probably dead, as we didn't see or hear about Starborn whilst both ESO and 76 appeared but announced nothing new.
/ That CoD trailer was... interesting. Considering BlOps 5's campaign that might be very good, but its CoD and there's a 50/50 shot it's generic as hell.
/Final Fantasy finally coming to Xbox, kinda surprised they aren't coming to Gamepass, you'd think SE would have loved to have a chunk of cash upfront for the underperformer.
/not sold on Double Fine's new game, but considering their history, I'm sure that's just a first-impressions thing.
/despite the talk of a unified library on the Xbox handheld, there was nothing that actually helped the "trapped" console games beyond the sliver on Play Anywhere and Stream Your Own Games.
/The Namco Bandai bit had me thinking their games was coming to gamepass.
+Clockwork Revolution is shaping up exactly how I was hoping it would.
+Outer Worlds 2 seems to be shifting towards more Bioshock than Fallout, and I think that works for it.
+Impressed Obsidian has yet another game on the way.
+More Plague Tale.
+The game from the Spirit Farer devs looks interesting.
Overall, it was a weird one. It wasn't a "blow the doors off" one, but it also wasn't one of those treading water, "the good times are coming" shows either.
Re: Xbox Handheld Is Called 'ROG Xbox Ally', Releases Holiday 2025
It's what we expected it to be. I could have done without the talk of the unified library, considering the majority of the 500+ digital Xbox games I own from across 3 generations of Xbox consoles are not playable anywhere or even held hostage on the "stream your own games with Game Pass" thing.
again looks like it should be good but that really bothered me.
Re: Jurassic World Evolution 3 Roars Its Way To Xbox This October
Oh nice. Loved 1 and 2, will be jumping on this day 1.
Re: Undead Labs Shares Cryptic Tease Ahead Of Xbox Games Showcase
I love SoD 1&2 (boy have they just didn't stop supporting 2... until they did lol) and I'm looking forward to 3.
These teases don't feel very "Midwest zombie survival". If you showed me that, I would have believed you.
Re: The Witcher 4 Gets Full Gameplay Reveal, But Dev Warns It's Just A 'Tech Demo'
@FraserG So it's just a Witcher-flavoured tech demo. I guess that means we shouldn't read into it running on PS5 as confirmation as current-gen release.
Re: The Witcher 4 Gets Full Gameplay Reveal, And It Looks Absolutely Stunning
This way further along then I thought. There was talk of this being next gen, yet here it is.
Re: Our Predictions For The 2025 Xbox Games Showcase
I got a weird feeling that the handheld will "star" somewhere else, like the PC gaming show.
It's still weird to me that the gears remaster of a remake "needs" a beta.
I don't think we'll hear about the next-gen Xbox until they have something they know is going to be poorly received