@IronMan30 @Scrubchub at this point I expect the Xbox handheld to "just" be an Xbox branded handheld PC, not an actual handheld Xbox. So supporting Switch 2 wouldn't have effect as it won't have separate game sales to PC.
It'd be weird if Xbox is at the Switch 2 reveal. Like they do the montage of people playing the Switch 2 in it's different forms and then BOOM Halo MCC.
@Deshalu agreed. MS buying them keeps it multiplatform (and MS regains the regional cloud rights to Activision titles) offers the greatest chance of making that money back.
Theres not really a while lot of options from within gaming. Sony or Nintendo buying them means making them exclusives and Ubisoft, who needs to rally, really needs a wide net to recoup all those dev costs.
EA, Valve and Epic are all doing their own thing. Take Two has GTA coming so isn't spending elsewhere. Bandai/Square have been slimming down.
I'm hoping with Disney (reportedly) super happy with Indy and with Blade coming I'm hoping they let Microsoft bring back the Activision Marvel games, either as BC or Remaster (it'd be insane if there was a remaster of Spider-Man 2 GC).
@Coletrain I guess they pay different companies wildly different amounts and don't want them to know how much of a difference there is.
@electrolite77 yes, but if what they are paid is less than what they would have earned with the "80% lostvsales" the why be on gamepass? Which was my point, it's one thing to think MS takes a financial hit on a "per game on GP" but third parties? If being on GP is a financial hit, they wouldn't be on GP.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a side effect of low console sales interacting with 'healthy' gamepass subs.
@Coletrain yeah it'd be one thing for MS to take a hit having their games on gamepass, but if being on gamepass is such a hit then third parties would stay away.
It would make sense to get something Elder Scrolls out, ES6 is still years away and it's been a long time since ES has been anything but Skyrim and ESO.
Funny but not really want I wanted to see from Hyperkin, I was REALLY hoping for a refresh of their 360 pad, the current one doesn't have hall effect sticks (Something their Duke and Duchess pads do)
I only bought a few games this year on Xbox. LaD, Dogma 2, Veilguard Shadows of Doubt, Alan Wake 2.
Bought much more across Quest, Switch, PC and retro (recent boguth and replayed King Kong, held up remarkably well). I would have got more on Xbox but MS has been rather clear about not wanting my business on console, so spent that money elsewhere.
I did get one XB game in physical this year an Xmas gift.
An Xbox handheld has to be able to play console games (without streaming). If it's "just" a handheld PC then it'll be lost against the rival handheld PCs that are cheaper or more powerful.
Give me a handheld that gives me my full library and I am there, regardless of how well Xbox is doing
Xbox sales have been plummeting every quarter ever since they wanted to by Activision and had to fight all the regulators and their only defense was "we need them to compete, we all ready lost".
Turns out taking a world tour to say your platform sucks isn't great for the platform a d the current "no exclusives" push isn't helping.
I'm sure there will be a next Xbox but I don't see that helping. We need to make sure Third party support stays solid, if that slips we know we're heading to Wii U, Dreamcast, and Vita town.
@sixrings They'd also get less from your purchase of their game on PS as Sony would take their licencing cut and if you buy it digitally they also get the retailers' cut too.
At least to pretend to care about Xbox by staggering the release. You know buy is dinner first lol
Xbox is gonna have to do alot to convince me to buy the next Xbox. Might aswell use that money upgrading my PC. I would save money on GP as I wouldn't need ultimate for day ones and I'll have access to the games Sony ports on PC too.
@UndyingInsurgent95 I doubt they'll do romance, not sure they've had a game with one in since Kotor 2 (and even then I was very minor compared to biowarès Kotor 1)
Yesterday I contacted support about the Horrizon 4 offer. They asked for the order number of the expansion pass, I found it sent it and they said it didn't exist.
Spent an hour telling them I could see it on my orders, gave them the date it was ordered the billing address and last 4 digits of the card that used it, took screen shots of it but nope.
I have to give WB props here, they might have jumped into that live service pool and sank but at least they aren't letting it drown (giving it an offline mode) @shoeses I hope that Multiverses gets a similar treatment. I'd happily pay for a version without the LS stuff.
Considering how much a of a quiet night the game awards are going to be for Xbox, I would assume they'd have a bunch of announcements just to be part of the conversation. I'd annouce the backwards compatibility program is back even if its secretly just the Activision titles they now own.
Getting Sony games on Xbox was always going to need either a Xbox in position of strength (which just isn't happening) or via some sort of very public trade offer.
"PS5 gets Sea of Thieves, Xbox gets Helldivers 2 and we both get more people buying the games and paying the MTXs".
But with Xbox seemingly happy to port everything onto PS there isn't any reason for Sony to engage with that.
@StylesT agreed. Even if the next gen system is real, is good and they boldly declare "exclusives are back" no one is going to believe them knowing Xbox is one poor year from porting everything to PS and probably Switch 2.
If it actually launches on Xbox I'll be delighted but more suprised they managed it. Game made my PC weep.
@parappatherapper to be fair it seems many Unreal games seem to be suffering performance problems too so the alternative universe version of the game probably has new and exciting (read: different) performance issues lol.
@Donutsquad00 in terms of bugs, at launch. I got really lucky and the whole thing played well bo noticible bugs or crashes whilst pretty much everyone else was hitting every bug and crash.
Now with Stalker 2 I'm hitting all the bugs and my friends are not seeing a thing.
When the game isn't freaking out at me, I love it but it is freaking out at me a lot.
I think this might be "balance" after Cyberpunk where I didn't get any noticeable bugs or t-pose in my first play through. Stalker 2 hits every bug it can lol.
@Rangers420 @Ricky-Spanish I bought the upgrade for Gamepass before the game come out, I haven't got a key yet either. I know some who got their keys though.
Maybe we're right at the bottom of the list for "reasons"
1. This push means nothing whilst you can only use an non-console Xbox as an Xbox with the premium Ultimate Sub.
2. Was that supposed to be reassuring?
Concern: addressing the lack of growth in Xbox sales by removing the reasons to buy an Xbox is a death spiral for the consoles, a spiral that threatens the digital libraries we built across three generations of consoles (remember the big deal they made off forward compatibility.)
Spencer: but we can make money.
(Yes, they keep saying they plan on more consoles but they change plan every 6 months.)
@TheEstablishment They'll need to prove that before I spend any more in the Xbox console ecosystem. An Xbox layer on Windows seems doable, we did see someone doing that with X1 not long ago.
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Re: Rumour: Leaker Names Multiple Xbox Games Potentially Releasing On Switch 2
@IronMan30 @Scrubchub at this point I expect the Xbox handheld to "just" be an Xbox branded handheld PC, not an actual handheld Xbox. So supporting Switch 2 wouldn't have effect as it won't have separate game sales to PC.
Re: Talking Point: Will Nintendo Switch 2 Appear At The Xbox Developer Direct 2025?
It'd be weird if Xbox is at the Switch 2 reveal. Like they do the montage of people playing the Switch 2 in it's different forms and then BOOM Halo MCC.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Series S Could Have Big Impact On The Nintendo Switch 2
I wouldn't be surprised if the Series S isn't also helping games come to Xbox One/PS4 after their current gent launch (like Jedi 2)
Re: Ubisoft Still Looking For Buyers Amidst Assassins Creed Shadows Delay
@Deshalu agreed. MS buying them keeps it multiplatform (and MS regains the regional cloud rights to Activision titles) offers the greatest chance of making that money back.
Theres not really a while lot of options from within gaming. Sony or Nintendo buying them means making them exclusives and Ubisoft, who needs to rally, really needs a wide net to recoup all those dev costs.
EA, Valve and Epic are all doing their own thing. Take Two has GTA coming so isn't spending elsewhere. Bandai/Square have been slimming down.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, This Time To March 2025
@The-Chosen-one very very true.
Also gets it out the way of the new "Ghost of" on PS.
Re: Special Edition OG Xbox 'S' Controller Unveiled By Accessory Maker Hyperkin
I use the regular dutchess every day, I love this green one but can't justify a second... Or can I?
I would love a refresh of their 360 one with hall effect sticks.
Re: Soapbox: I Can't Wait To See What Xbox Does With Activision This Year
I'm hoping with Disney (reportedly) super happy with Indy and with Blade coming I'm hoping they let Microsoft bring back the Activision Marvel games, either as BC or Remaster (it'd be insane if there was a remaster of Spider-Man 2 GC).
Re: Game Pass Titles 'Lose Around 80%' Of Sales On Xbox, Claims Reporter
@Banjo- there would have to be one hell of a price cut to justify me remaining subbed if they removed day ones.
Re: Game Pass Titles 'Lose Around 80%' Of Sales On Xbox, Claims Reporter
@Coletrain I guess they pay different companies wildly different amounts and don't want them to know how much of a difference there is.
@electrolite77 yes, but if what they are paid is less than what they would have earned with the "80% lostvsales" the why be on gamepass? Which was my point, it's one thing to think MS takes a financial hit on a "per game on GP" but third parties? If being on GP is a financial hit, they wouldn't be on GP.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Titles 'Lose Around 80%' Of Sales, Claims Reporter
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a side effect of low console sales interacting with 'healthy' gamepass subs.
@Coletrain yeah it'd be one thing for MS to take a hit having their games on gamepass, but if being on gamepass is such a hit then third parties would stay away.
Re: MGS3 Remake Dev Rumoured To Be Working On Oblivion Remastered In Unreal Engine 5
It would make sense to get something Elder Scrolls out, ES6 is still years away and it's been a long time since ES has been anything but Skyrim and ESO.
Re: Hyperkin Is Going Full-PS5 With Its New 'Competitor' Xbox Controller
Funny but not really want I wanted to see from Hyperkin, I was REALLY hoping for a refresh of their 360 pad, the current one doesn't have hall effect sticks (Something their Duke and Duchess pads do)
Re: Talking Point: Is 2025 The Year We See Everwild On Xbox?
I'd expect it to appear at Not-E3 and probably not with a release date.
Re: Poll: How Many Xbox Games Have You Actually Bought In 2024?
I only bought a few games this year on Xbox.
LaD, Dogma 2, Veilguard Shadows of Doubt, Alan Wake 2.
Bought much more across Quest, Switch, PC and retro (recent boguth and replayed King Kong, held up remarkably well). I would have got more on Xbox but MS has been rather clear about not wanting my business on console, so spent that money elsewhere.
I did get one XB game in physical this year an Xmas gift.
Re: These Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (December 23-27)
I legit forgot Star Trek Legends existed, now I'm disappointed all over gain
Re: Xbox Exec Appearing At 'Future Of Gaming Handhelds' Panel Next Month
An Xbox handheld has to be able to play console games (without streaming). If it's "just" a handheld PC then it'll be lost against the rival handheld PCs that are cheaper or more powerful.
Give me a handheld that gives me my full library and I am there, regardless of how well Xbox is doing
Re: New Elder Scrolls 'Remake' Announcement Rumour Surfaces Online
@jesse_dylan it did appear on the offical documents but that was dated from before they was bought by MS.
I wouldn't be suprised if it existed at one point but was cancelled.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Console Sales Down Almost 30% In The US Compared To 2023
Xbox sales have been plummeting every quarter ever since they wanted to by Activision and had to fight all the regulators and their only defense was "we need them to compete, we all ready lost".
Turns out taking a world tour to say your platform sucks isn't great for the platform a d the current "no exclusives" push isn't helping.
I'm sure there will be a next Xbox but I don't see that helping. We need to make sure Third party support stays solid, if that slips we know we're heading to Wii U, Dreamcast, and Vita town.
Re: YouTuber Breaks Down Xbox's 'Almost Perfect' New Ad Campaign
For me the advert is dumb because cloud streaming is tied to Gamepass Ultimate.
You convince someone with the campaign and they discover they need the most expensive package to play
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@sixrings They'd also get less from your purchase of their game on PS as Sony would take their licencing cut and if you buy it digitally they also get the retailers' cut too.
Re: Xbox Reporter Says That Microsoft 'Won't Have Exclusives Going Forward'
It occurs to me that Xbox probably isn't going to be having third party exclusives either, wonder if that's going to benefit Sony or Nintendo more.
Re: Yes, The Outer Worlds 2 Is Another Xbox-Developed Game Heading To PS5
@UndyingInsurgent95 they says it's because they can't give it 100% what it deserves, I suspect its more a "don't want to"
Re: Yes, The Outer Worlds 2 Is Another Xbox-Developed Game Heading To PS5
@Cakefish all I've wanted since they've started what seems to be a hardware death spiral is for my digital library to be safe on PC.
Re: Yes, The Outer Worlds 2 Is Another Xbox-Developed Game Heading To PS5
At least to pretend to care about Xbox by staggering the release. You know buy is dinner first lol
Xbox is gonna have to do alot to convince me to buy the next Xbox. Might aswell use that money upgrading my PC. I would save money on GP as I wouldn't need ultimate for day ones and I'll have access to the games Sony ports on PC too.
@UndyingInsurgent95 I doubt they'll do romance, not sure they've had a game with one in since Kotor 2 (and even then I was very minor compared to biowarès Kotor 1)
Re: CD Projekt RED Officially Unveils 'The Witcher 4' With Lengthy Cinematic
@YeyoFairy I would hope this time management isn't making them target the tail end of a console generation again.
Re: Xbox User Insists Some Owned Games Are Being Hidden From Players' Libraries
@SoulChimera I'm not sure if it's reassuring that so many seem to have the same issue with them but at least isn't not just me.
Re: Xbox User Insists Some Owned Games Are Being Hidden From Players' Libraries
@Altaria_97 nice to know this is some BS they play and it's not just me.
Re: Xbox User Insists Some Owned Games Are Being Hidden From Players' Libraries
@Feffster they suggested I played it via gameshare or on another account. Despite me looking at it in my order page.
Re: Xbox User Insists Some Owned Games Are Being Hidden From Players' Libraries
Yesterday I contacted support about the Horrizon 4 offer. They asked for the order number of the expansion pass, I found it sent it and they said it didn't exist.
Spent an hour telling them I could see it on my orders, gave them the date it was ordered the billing address and last 4 digits of the card that used it, took screen shots of it but nope.
"Doesn't exist" and they refused to do anything.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League Offline Mode Arrives Alongside Deep Discount On Xbox
I have to give WB props here, they might have jumped into that live service pool and sank but at least they aren't letting it drown (giving it an offline mode)
@shoeses I hope that Multiverses gets a similar treatment. I'd happily pay for a version without the LS stuff.
Re: Seven Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Early December 2024
@PhileasFragg That was hell. They wanted the order number, I found it sent it to them and apparently, it doesn't exist.
Re: Xbox Might Be Preparing To Release Two First-Party Games In Early 2025
Considering how much a of a quiet night the game awards are going to be for Xbox, I would assume they'd have a bunch of announcements just to be part of the conversation.
I'd annouce the backwards compatibility program is back even if its secretly just the Activision titles they now own.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Questions Why Sony Would Put PS5 Games On Xbox
Getting Sony games on Xbox was always going to need either a Xbox in position of strength (which just isn't happening) or via some sort of very public trade offer.
"PS5 gets Sea of Thieves, Xbox gets Helldivers 2 and we both get more people buying the games and paying the MTXs".
But with Xbox seemingly happy to port everything onto PS there isn't any reason for Sony to engage with that.
Re: Ubisoft Is Giving Up On XDefiant, Just Over Six Months Since It Launched
It's a shame they couldn't sell this to CoD players who really hate BO6's omnimovement.
I have to assume the free to play shooter Market is "full" now thanks to all the forever games eating up all the customers.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Expecting From Xbox At The Game Awards 2024?
Not really fond of what the Game Awards has morphed into so I wo t be watching.
It would be nice to get an big meaningful Xbox announcement that isn't "hey we're finally getting that big game" again.
Unrelated note: had a real hard time actually getting into this article via the mobile site as it kept loading the playstation advert instead.
Re: Eight Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Early December 2024
Really need to finish The Bunker before it leaves.
Still haven't received my FH4 code.
Re: Rumour: Forza Horizon 5 'Will Arrive' On PS5, Despite A Delay From Xbox
@StylesT agreed. Even if the next gen system is real, is good and they boldly declare "exclusives are back" no one is going to believe them knowing Xbox is one poor year from porting everything to PS and probably Switch 2.
Re: Sniper Elite: Resistance Preview - Rebellion's Rock Solid Shooter Returns To Xbox Game Pass
All I need from this entry is "more Sniper Elite 5 co-op" and that seems to be what it's delivering.
Related, was super bummed that neither the VR Sniper Elite games had co-op but at least the VR Zombie Army will.
Re: Cities: Skylines 2 Dev Struggling To Get Xbox Version Running For Game Pass Release
If it actually launches on Xbox I'll be delighted but more suprised they managed it. Game made my PC weep.
@parappatherapper to be fair it seems many Unreal games seem to be suffering performance problems too so the alternative universe version of the game probably has new and exciting (read: different) performance issues lol.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Stalker 2 On Xbox Game Pass So Far?
@Donutsquad00 in terms of bugs, at launch.
I got really lucky and the whole thing played well bo noticible bugs or crashes whilst pretty much everyone else was hitting every bug and crash.
Now with Stalker 2 I'm hitting all the bugs and my friends are not seeing a thing.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Stalker 2 On Xbox Game Pass So Far?
When the game isn't freaking out at me, I love it but it is freaking out at me a lot.
I think this might be "balance" after Cyberpunk where I didn't get any noticeable bugs or t-pose in my first play through. Stalker 2 hits every bug it can lol.
Re: Xbox Is Making Big Changes To Avatars In January 2025
I get not supporting it anymore but pulling it completely? That feels like more effort than just "keeping the lights on".
Re: Talking Point: What Have You Bought In The Xbox Black Friday Sale So Far?
Lots of stuff I want, some stuff I would have bought, but I'm not comfortable buying Xbox digital anymore.
Re: Xbox Introduces 'Stream Your Own Game' Feature With 50 Titles Supported At Launch
What a weird selection of titles.
Kinda surprised to see WWE on there with all the custom content and all. Guess they store that in the cloud data now.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Knows How Annoying The Forza Horizon 4 Situation Is
@Rangers420 @Ricky-Spanish I bought the upgrade for Gamepass before the game come out, I haven't got a key yet either. I know some who got their keys though.
Maybe we're right at the bottom of the list for "reasons"
Re: Eight Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Late November 2024
Kinda surprised Conan's going feels like it's been there forever.
Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why 'This Is An Xbox' Will Be Beneficial To Console Owners
@CallMeDuraSouka I love the actual series X console and I love playing on it, where ever possible I bought games for the Series X.
With the way Sony is pricing the Pro, I'm might as well go PC.
Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why 'This Is An Xbox' Will Be Beneficial To Console Owners
@JokerBoy322 it's already stopped me buying games on Xbox, it's a gamepass machine now.
I can't justify adding to my Xbox digital library. Hope something changes and I can return to it (My PC really isn't happy about this lol)
Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why 'This Is An Xbox' Will Be Beneficial To Console Owners
1. This push means nothing whilst you can only use an non-console Xbox as an Xbox with the premium Ultimate Sub.
2. Was that supposed to be reassuring?
Concern: addressing the lack of growth in Xbox sales by removing the reasons to buy an Xbox is a death spiral for the consoles, a spiral that threatens the digital libraries we built across three generations of consoles (remember the big deal they made off forward compatibility.)
Spencer: but we can make money.
(Yes, they keep saying they plan on more consoles but they change plan every 6 months.)
Re: Reaction: Like It Or Not, Xbox Has Gone Full Throttle On Multiplatform
@TheEstablishment They'll need to prove that before I spend any more in the Xbox console ecosystem. An Xbox layer on Windows seems doable, we did see someone doing that with X1 not long ago.