I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with the utter dumpster fire that was Randy Pitchford's "real fans".
I mean, we'd never expect the company that only sells current-gen versions as part of a more expensive bundle would never consider increasing prices. s/
I'm not shocked. FF16 didn't make much of an impact of PS5 or PC, After all, it did so poorly that it made SE reconsider their entire approach to exclusivity. Selling it on Xbox doesn't change the fact that it's not a popular FF game.
I'm still surprised SE didn't get a Game Pass deal for it, you'd think they'd want some positive word of mouth and some nice cash in their pockets.
FF7 will do better, though how much remains to be seen. I know I'll likely be picking it up on Switch 2 (assuming it's not on fire)
Considering how much they are stressing, the tech demo doesn't represent the actual Witcher 4 or the progress they've made in it, AND this constant talk of next gen being 2026/7 there's a fiart chance the Series S isn't going to be relevent.
It bothered me that whilst it doesn't play console games, the entire segment repeatedly talked about playing all your games in one place, a true "unified" library... that doesn't include the vast majority of digital Xbox games.
-I didn't see many of the games or studios I wanted to see.
-I also didn't see the Game Pass logo as much as I was expecting.
-There wasn't a big "oh my god!" moment, just lots of "looks good"
-No hall effect controller (I'm done with the pile of drifting X1/XS pads)
-Still no Activision on GP annoucement
-The quiet realisation that Starfield is probably dead, as we didn't see or hear about Starborn whilst both ESO and 76 appeared but announced nothing new.
/ That CoD trailer was... interesting. Considering BlOps 5's campaign that might be very good, but its CoD and there's a 50/50 shot it's generic as hell.
/Final Fantasy finally coming to Xbox, kinda surprised they aren't coming to Gamepass, you'd think SE would have loved to have a chunk of cash upfront for the underperformer.
/not sold on Double Fine's new game, but considering their history, I'm sure that's just a first-impressions thing.
/despite the talk of a unified library on the Xbox handheld, there was nothing that actually helped the "trapped" console games beyond the sliver on Play Anywhere and Stream Your Own Games.
/The Namco Bandai bit had me thinking their games was coming to gamepass.
+Clockwork Revolution is shaping up exactly how I was hoping it would.
+Outer Worlds 2 seems to be shifting towards more Bioshock than Fallout, and I think that works for it.
+Impressed Obsidian has yet another game on the way.
+More Plague Tale.
+The game from the Spirit Farer devs looks interesting.
Overall, it was a weird one. It wasn't a "blow the doors off" one, but it also wasn't one of those treading water, "the good times are coming" shows either.
It's what we expected it to be. I could have done without the talk of the unified library, considering the majority of the 500+ digital Xbox games I own from across 3 generations of Xbox consoles are not playable anywhere or even held hostage on the "stream your own games with Game Pass" thing.
again looks like it should be good but that really bothered me.
@FraserG So it's just a Witcher-flavoured tech demo. I guess that means we shouldn't read into it running on PS5 as confirmation as current-gen release.
No. 1: I'm only interested in one that plays Xbox games, I there are a bunch of PC handheld available out there already and I just don't need a Xbox logo on it. 2: There is no way in hell this is going to be anywhere near affordable. Consoles offset their hardware costs because they have a captive audience. This just isn't going to have that. Your aren't going to buy anything from the Xbox Store and pay console pricing, your going to get your games of steam/GoG/Epic and pay less.
I suppose the contextual good news is that this time it's happening "everywhere" at MS and so we aren't going to see any studio closures but it still absolutely sucks
I bounced hard. On paper I should love it. I love side scrolling brawlers, I like RPG character building, I love that its online and local co-op but it just felt like the tip of f2p grind. I think I'll introduce it to my kids and then if they like it join them.
I have to assume this is more next gen Xbox and not more 360/OG games coming to Series XS.
I kinda hope this is aimed at bringing our Xbox libraries to PC.
@xeofate To be fair to Nintendo, they have a fair track record for BC. The DS had BC with 3 generations of Game Boy, 3DS played DS games, Wii played GC games, Wii U played Wii games and it's always "full" BC not part of the libary
@munstahunta Don't get me wrong, you are very right, the last thing a console with spiralling sales needs is a price jump, but according to one analyst, they are spreading the damage, putting prices up everywhere, so they don't have to drastically increase the US prices alone. Their thinking being it's better to lose "some" sales globally than losing "most" US sales. In that context it makes sense...
Still an insane move in what appears to be a death spiral.
I already have a Series X, so ultimately the price increase doesn't affect me, but boy, looking at those prices and even an optimistic napkin map has me thinking upgrading my PC for decent 1080p/1440p performance would be either cheaper outright or pay for itself with cheaper PC games and cheaper PC gamepass. Now theres now where it'll out perform an next gen Xbox but with these prices I think I'm happy to "settle".
Though I will freely admit that that's only because I recently checked about upgrading my PC and there was no domino upgrades need (wont need a new PCU or MB to get the upgrades I was looking at).
@Fiendish-Beaver In theory, a handheld PC could possibly function as a middle ground/transitional state.
It's less faff than a PC, the games are cheaper than console, and it removes the headache of working out which part needs upgrading and what's going to kick off a domino chain of upgrades.
@Cakefish Yeah Switch 2 digital games are fairly consistently £10 cheaper digital than physical (unless its a gamekey) which certainly suggests those new cards aren't cheap to make, and when we look at DK it looks like most games will be less than £69.99 physically, it's only their big games (and bundles) that seems to be going past the 'former' standard.
@HonestHick @RBRTMNZ I plugged the UK Series X launch price in the inflation calculator and said that equates to £561 in today's money, so I guess it "only" costing £499 represents the "savings" we'd normally see.
(out of interest, I reversed it, £499 in 2020's money is £360)
As it stands, I do not see a reason to buy the next Xbox, it makes more sense to me to buy whatever 2026/7s PC handheld of choice is or upgrade my PC, and have access to ALL PC storefronts, all Xbox games, many PS games and CHEAPER Game Pass.
Don't get me wrong, I'm really hoping Spencer's "We're going to be at Sony on features, not by withholding exclusives" manifests something and I'll happily buy NeXbox instead.
I think this shows just how much the term Remaster has been abused over the years to the point where Oblivion, Dead Rising, or Tomb Raider are heralded for doing what Remasters are supposed to do, improve the graphics and controls to let fantastic games find a new audience.
Don't get me wrong, the Oblivion Remaster is riding the very edge of the difference.
@Kaloudz I fear we might be stuck with "deluxe remaster" thanks to Dead Rising...
Hopefully, more people are actually playing through it. I was taking my time, doing a chapter a day and missed several days, and every "complete chapter X" achievement was Rare with an incredibly low %.
@Kezelpaso When everything unlocks, it's a good base. I did find myself wanting a combo list, something I could play with without making the actual mechanics more complex.
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Re: These 11 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (June 18 - July 1)
@Ricky-Spanish I think this was the last one before the launcher
Re: 2K Not Following Microsoft & Nintendo With $80 Game Prices, For Now
I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with the utter dumpster fire that was Randy Pitchford's "real fans".
I mean, we'd never expect the company that only sells current-gen versions as part of a more expensive bundle would never consider increasing prices. s/
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
I'm not shocked. FF16 didn't make much of an impact of PS5 or PC, After all, it did so poorly that it made SE reconsider their entire approach to exclusivity. Selling it on Xbox doesn't change the fact that it's not a popular FF game.
I'm still surprised SE didn't get a Game Pass deal for it, you'd think they'd want some positive word of mouth and some nice cash in their pockets.
FF7 will do better, though how much remains to be seen. I know I'll likely be picking it up on Switch 2 (assuming it's not on fire)
Re: The Witcher 4 Will Be 'Extremely Challenging' To Run At 60FPS On Xbox Series S
@Ricky-Spanish yeah, considering the context here is Cyberpunk's launch, it's "okay" that the Series S runs at 30fps.
Re: The Witcher 4 Will Be 'Extremely Challenging' To Run At 60FPS On Xbox Series S
Considering how much they are stressing, the tech demo doesn't represent the actual Witcher 4 or the progress they've made in it, AND this constant talk of next gen being 2026/7 there's a fiart chance the Series S isn't going to be relevent.
Re: Phil Spencer Hypes Up Clockwork Revolution Following Xbox Games Showcase Reveal
Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of games I'm interested in that are coming out but this is my personal favourite.
Re: Outer Worlds 2 Director Responds To Xbox's Expensive $80 Price Tag
It's wild to me they are starting with a game that's going to be a code in a box.
Re: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Update '1.3.0' Now Live On Xbox, Here Are The Patch Notes
That window increase is going to be nice. I always seem to be slightly off in the multi-hit instant murder death kill attacks.
Re: Gears Of War Reloaded Beta: Release Date, Start Times And How To Access
I'm still suprised it needs a beta, it's a graphical remaster of X1 remake that already got X enhancements and FPS boost on Series.
Re: Xbox Is Still Committed To Bringing Call Of Duty To Switch, Confirms Activision
I would be perfectly happy with a MCC style package where you get (for example) the classic MW campagins with seperate MW base multiplayer.
Re: Starfield Fans Voice Their Concerns About Future Support And Updates
Rather funny enough Starfield Deluxe edition is on sale
Re: What Games Can You Play On The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld?
The amount of people telling me it supports native digital console games is concerning.
Re: Starfield Fans Voice Their Concerns About Future Support And Updates
@ChrisDeku at this point I'd settle for just knowing if working on it or not.
Bethesda has really dropped the ball with support for SF. Remember When they claimed we'd have regular updates?
If they are done the they should say so.
Re: 'There Are No Ghosts At The Grand' Will Be An Xbox Game Pass Title Unlike Any Other
This might have been the most interesting all new game at the show for me.
Re: No, The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld Doesn't Play Native Console Games
It bothered me that whilst it doesn't play console games, the entire segment repeatedly talked about playing all your games in one place, a true "unified" library... that doesn't include the vast majority of digital Xbox games.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
I'm giving it a C. By no means a bad show but...
-I didn't see many of the games or studios I wanted to see.
-I also didn't see the Game Pass logo as much as I was expecting.
-There wasn't a big "oh my god!" moment, just lots of "looks good"
-No hall effect controller (I'm done with the pile of drifting X1/XS pads)
-Still no Activision on GP annoucement
-The quiet realisation that Starfield is probably dead, as we didn't see or hear about Starborn whilst both ESO and 76 appeared but announced nothing new.
/ That CoD trailer was... interesting. Considering BlOps 5's campaign that might be very good, but its CoD and there's a 50/50 shot it's generic as hell.
/Final Fantasy finally coming to Xbox, kinda surprised they aren't coming to Gamepass, you'd think SE would have loved to have a chunk of cash upfront for the underperformer.
/not sold on Double Fine's new game, but considering their history, I'm sure that's just a first-impressions thing.
/despite the talk of a unified library on the Xbox handheld, there was nothing that actually helped the "trapped" console games beyond the sliver on Play Anywhere and Stream Your Own Games.
/The Namco Bandai bit had me thinking their games was coming to gamepass.
+Clockwork Revolution is shaping up exactly how I was hoping it would.
+Outer Worlds 2 seems to be shifting towards more Bioshock than Fallout, and I think that works for it.
+Impressed Obsidian has yet another game on the way.
+More Plague Tale.
+The game from the Spirit Farer devs looks interesting.
Overall, it was a weird one. It wasn't a "blow the doors off" one, but it also wasn't one of those treading water, "the good times are coming" shows either.
Re: Xbox Handheld Is Called 'ROG Xbox Ally', Releases Holiday 2025
It's what we expected it to be. I could have done without the talk of the unified library, considering the majority of the 500+ digital Xbox games I own from across 3 generations of Xbox consoles are not playable anywhere or even held hostage on the "stream your own games with Game Pass" thing.
again looks like it should be good but that really bothered me.
Re: Jurassic World Evolution 3 Roars Its Way To Xbox This October
Oh nice. Loved 1 and 2, will be jumping on this day 1.
Re: Undead Labs Shares Cryptic Tease Ahead Of Xbox Games Showcase
I love SoD 1&2 (boy have they just didn't stop supporting 2... until they did lol) and I'm looking forward to 3.
These teases don't feel very "Midwest zombie survival". If you showed me that, I would have believed you.
Re: The Witcher 4 Gets Full Gameplay Reveal, But Dev Warns It's Just A 'Tech Demo'
@FraserG So it's just a Witcher-flavoured tech demo. I guess that means we shouldn't read into it running on PS5 as confirmation as current-gen release.
Re: The Witcher 4 Gets Full Gameplay Reveal, And It Looks Absolutely Stunning
This way further along then I thought. There was talk of this being next gen, yet here it is.
Re: Our Predictions For The 2025 Xbox Games Showcase
I got a weird feeling that the handheld will "star" somewhere else, like the PC gaming show.
It's still weird to me that the gears remaster of a remake "needs" a beta.
I don't think we'll hear about the next-gen Xbox until they have something they know is going to be poorly received
Re: Xbox Game Pass Hit Atomfall Gets Its First Story Expansion Next Week
Looking forward to it, I enjoyed the heck out of Atomfall and I'm happy to jump in for more.
Re: Report: Xbox Elite Series 3 Is Real, And It's Improved 'Leaps & Bounds' Over The Elite 2
@themightyant I can still feel the disappointment of the quality of my Elite 1. It just doesn't feel like a 120 product.
Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Buying The 2025 Xbox Handheld From ASUS?
No.
1: I'm only interested in one that plays Xbox games, I there are a bunch of PC handheld available out there already and I just don't need a Xbox logo on it.
2: There is no way in hell this is going to be anywhere near affordable. Consoles offset their hardware costs because they have a captive audience. This just isn't going to have that. Your aren't going to buy anything from the Xbox Store and pay console pricing, your going to get your games of steam/GoG/Epic and pay less.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Feel You've Had Value For Money With Your Xbox Series X|S?
Yes. I love the console itself and quick resume and smart delivery have been amazing.
There are some "howevers".
That's very much at the Day One UK RRP. It's not as easy to recommend it with the 2025 price.
I'm not confident I would have made the same choice knowing what we now know.
Re: Xbox Seemingly Affected As Microsoft Announces Thousands More Job Cuts
I suppose the contextual good news is that this time it's happening "everywhere" at MS and so we aren't going to see any studio closures but it still absolutely sucks
Re: Marvel 1943: Rise Of Hydra Delayed Out Of 2025, Now Arriving On Xbox In 'Early 2026'
I legit forgot about this, hope this is a "we want this game to be the best it can be" delay and not a "why dose their head keep falling off" delay
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Many Of You Are Buying A Switch 2?
I've said before I'm not interested in "just" an Xbox branded handheld PC, I want it to play my Xbox games natively.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Towerborne On Xbox Game Pass?
I bounced hard. On paper I should love it. I love side scrolling brawlers, I like RPG character building, I love that its online and local co-op but it just felt like the tip of f2p grind. I think I'll introduce it to my kids and then if they like it join them.
Re: Xbox Developer Shares Insight Into Why Physical Releases Are 'Complex'
One of the reasons I prefer to use GOG wherever possible, its digital games you actually own
Re: Xbox's New Job Advert Is Amazing News For Backwards Compatibility
@TheGameThrifter it is IF the next Xbox is "basically a PC" as rumoured.
Re: Xbox's New Job Advert Is Amazing News For Backwards Compatibility
I have to assume this is more next gen Xbox and not more 360/OG games coming to Series XS.
I kinda hope this is aimed at bringing our Xbox libraries to PC.
@xeofate To be fair to Nintendo, they have a fair track record for BC.
The DS had BC with 3 generations of Game Boy, 3DS played DS games, Wii played GC games, Wii U played Wii games and it's always "full" BC not part of the libary
Re: Talking Point: Will Xbox Game Pass Get A Price Increase This Year?
I was expecting anual price increases for CoD so I'm hoping the increase game RRP means they wont be doing that... right...
Re: Poll: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Title For April 2025?
1. Expedition 33
2. South of Midnight.
3. Oblivion Remaster (SoM isn't a "better game" just actually new)
Don't get me wrong, my Oblivion playtime dwarfs both.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox At Microsoft's 2025 Prices?
@munstahunta Don't get me wrong, you are very right, the last thing a console with spiralling sales needs is a price jump, but according to one analyst, they are spreading the damage, putting prices up everywhere, so they don't have to drastically increase the US prices alone. Their thinking being it's better to lose "some" sales globally than losing "most" US sales. In that context it makes sense...
Still an insane move in what appears to be a death spiral.
Re: Here's How The New Xbox Prices Compare To PS5 & Nintendo Switch 2
@TheGameThrifter You could never have convinced my MS would price an Xbox X above PS5 Pro, but here we are with that US price.
Re: Here's How The New Xbox Prices Compare To PS5 & Nintendo Switch 2
I already have a Series X, so ultimately the price increase doesn't affect me, but boy, looking at those prices and even an optimistic napkin map has me thinking upgrading my PC for decent 1080p/1440p performance would be either cheaper outright or pay for itself with cheaper PC games and cheaper PC gamepass. Now theres now where it'll out perform an next gen Xbox but with these prices I think I'm happy to "settle".
Though I will freely admit that that's only because I recently checked about upgrading my PC and there was no domino upgrades need (wont need a new PCU or MB to get the upgrades I was looking at).
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
@Fiendish-Beaver In theory, a handheld PC could possibly function as a middle ground/transitional state.
It's less faff than a PC, the games are cheaper than console, and it removes the headache of working out which part needs upgrading and what's going to kick off a domino chain of upgrades.
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
@Cakefish Yeah Switch 2 digital games are fairly consistently £10 cheaper digital than physical (unless its a gamekey) which certainly suggests those new cards aren't cheap to make, and when we look at DK it looks like most games will be less than £69.99 physically, it's only their big games (and bundles) that seems to be going past the 'former' standard.
Re: Reaction: $80 Game Prices Are Ridiculous, Adding Even More Value To Xbox Game Pass
@Ricky-Spanish If the way Switch 2 game prices translate to £, then it's more like £74.99
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Games And Accessories
@HonestHick @RBRTMNZ I plugged the UK Series X launch price in the inflation calculator and said that equates to £561 in today's money, so I guess it "only" costing £499 represents the "savings" we'd normally see.
(out of interest, I reversed it, £499 in 2020's money is £360)
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Third-Party Strategy Is Finally Making Sense To Me
As it stands, I do not see a reason to buy the next Xbox, it makes more sense to me to buy whatever 2026/7s PC handheld of choice is or upgrade my PC, and have access to ALL PC storefronts, all Xbox games, many PS games and CHEAPER Game Pass.
Don't get me wrong, I'm really hoping Spencer's "We're going to be at Sony on features, not by withholding exclusives" manifests something and I'll happily buy NeXbox instead.
Re: Opinion: Xbox Game Pass Is On A Ridiculous Hot Streak Right Now
100%
However, whoever is in charge of scheduling needs a kick in the bottom. Having Oblivion drop 2 days before Clair Obscur was silly.
Re: OG Oblivion Dev Not Sure Bethesda's 'Remaster' Title Actually Does It Justice
I think this shows just how much the term Remaster has been abused over the years to the point where Oblivion, Dead Rising, or Tomb Raider are heralded for doing what Remasters are supposed to do, improve the graphics and controls to let fantastic games find a new audience.
Don't get me wrong, the Oblivion Remaster is riding the very edge of the difference.
@Kaloudz I fear we might be stuck with "deluxe remaster" thanks to Dead Rising...
Re: GOTY Contender Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (April 24)
I'm really excited about this game but I'm not sure about bouncing between oblivion and it.
Re: Xbox Cloud Gaming Arrives On LG TVs With New Dedicated App
Could be cool, provably wont work on either of mine.
LG TV support is "weird". Like Paramount+ isn't supported on my 4K TV but is on my HD one.
Re: Xbox First-Party Release Barges Into Top-10 Played Games During Launch Week
Hopefully, more people are actually playing through it. I was taking my time, doing a chapter a day and missed several days, and every "complete chapter X" achievement was Rare with an incredibly low %.
Re: Opinion: South Of Midnight Dev Could Become An Xbox Game Studios Gem
@Kezelpaso When everything unlocks, it's a good base. I did find myself wanting a combo list, something I could play with without making the actual mechanics more complex.
Re: Opinion: South Of Midnight Dev Could Become An Xbox Game Studios Gem
Fantastic game let down by the most "okayist" combat that ever did "fine" in the history of "eh".