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@Wheatly yet in games like battlefront 2 and avengers it’s all the reviews were about…. Both games no doubt you think “suck”

@stefan771 yes they should. Reviews should cover every aspect. People need informing what they are getting into to. Especially if the reviewers get content unlocked making it more enjoyable.

@carlos82 it resident evil 2 it cost like 5 quid didn’t it for the dlc? Ten max. This isn’t dlc it MT and it’s 80 plus quid to unlock it all. Not quite the same

It was scummy when crash team racing was ruined with MT and no one called it out. It became a horrible scummy grind fest.

If you add something like this AFTER reviews are in and after you’ve sold 4 million copies, you are a scumbag. All the “I’ve no problem with this.” Comments…. Haha. Honestly.

I’m waiting for a Ten year deal promising day one COD release with console parity to my toaster…..

Cmon Xbox. You guys are AMAZING… us mere mortal gamers are lucky you are on our side.

Let’s do this.

I never understood why everyone got so excited by the emulation on the Xbox. They were always going to end the party. It was a carrot to get people to buy the series S and now they’ve slammed the door.

Sony still get hammered for doing similar back with BC stuff. Removing the Linux stuff too.

I use steam deck for my emulation and I’d be gutted if they removed my an ability to do so.

I actually own all the games I emulate but that’s because I collect games.

To the person who said “why do people play old games and not new ones” because many style of games never get new games….

Ssx 3 has no games since even close to be like it.
Wave race GC ditto.
Burnout 3….
Buffy the video game…
Loads of classic monster jam games…
James Bond games…
Def Jam…

Not everyone plays 16 bit games and many of the ps2/GC era classic are simply not made any more.

I’d take most of those games over modern online monsters. Fun “arcade” style games don’t exist. When they do they are online only. Back then these games had hours and hours of solo player content. Many have never been close to being surpassed 3 gens on.

@cburg so if Sony get a worse version of cod or a later version or a buggy version Sony won’t be damaged? Because that is what he is saying. He is correct. Obviously.

As I say, no way do Xbox do that. They’ll want the Sony players money for the first few years at least. They’ll be hoping that even if both versions are the same the draw of a “free” version on GPU with “perks” will be enough to shift plenty of gamers over, which is to be fair also a good a solid strategy, so what he is saying is true, but it’s very doubtful xbox would do it, they’d have the power to though.

@Kaloudz genuinely that’s it. I think they’ve even announced some of the missing teams - are back. They had lost Juventus but I believe that is back. Premier league, european leagues etc all will be present. For years they didn’t have the champions league license but career/franchise/whatever you want to call it mode had a cup with the same structure and same teams but it was just called something similar: this will have a World Cup or a World Trophy or something just not a FIFA World Cup.

It’s bonkers that fifa thought they held any power. Ironically the fifa game won’t have most the real names or players as many of them are in exclusive deals with EA…. This new one that Fifa claim to be making.

@BBB the irony is the “Fifa” license is literally for the word fifa and the fifa World Cup. Not the teams, players or anything else. That license is held separately and EA still has it. So all the clubs players and balls etc will still be present.

Fifa seriously over played their hand.

@Sebatrox lol beat me to it by 22 seconds. I was typing it at the same time

It’s a rubbish name. It’s a rubbish logo.

EA Sports Football.

No need for the club at all. Makes no sense. They aren’t a club, the game isn’t a club.

I’m not a fan of Jim and I hope that Xbox wouldn’t do this…. But say what you want…. What he is actually saying is true.

If Sony got a last gen only version or whatever, or a non optimised version it would damage Sony forever:

Fact.

You just hope Xbox is above that.

Money talks sadly and the rich spoilt kid gets whatever he wants. He wants COD as his play thing and he has the money to make it happen.

The knock on effect of bethesda and activision no longer being third party hurts all of us gamers. Less games. So many IPs will be in a GPU calendar we will wait ages for the IPs will love. COD of course will come yearly.

Doom, Spyro, Wolfenstein, Crash and all the already dormant Xbox IPs are in the wilderness. The 4/5 game a year at best model on the GPU AAA calendar doesn’t have room for all these IPs.

So all the Xbox only crew clamouring for this. In reality you are getting some cheap old Activision games on game pass and a yearly COD. I’d rather pay and get new editions of games.

I say this as a GPU subscriber

@PhileasFragg yeah I do. I have a few controllers now and have plug and play for all of them. I hate AA requirement or that I have to pay more for plug and play but I like it’s future proof from battery issues that I don’t have with my ninty or Sony ones.

I’m preferring the special edition controllers to standard as I feel the plastic backs to standard ones are horrible. Both the Forza one and anniversary ones have much nicer textured backs. I’m hoping this is the same.

That is an awesome design and one of the best special editions I’ve seen. I’m English and know what it is. I’m flabbergasted people didn’t know.

Ha.

It’s a no from me. Sustainable design much better

@PhileasFragg you are right I hadn’t joined the dots in my head either. It’s not a bad deal really. I think they should all come with the battery packs.

If I can get it discounted like I did the Forza and anniversary ones I will pick it up as it’s a lovely one.

I’m a massive resident evil fan and the list couldn’t be more wrong.

That is all.

@Dsswoosh I meant the Xbox owned game.

I’m quite aware how 3rd party contracts work.

The main reason EA remove games is to send the players to the newest version.
If you wanna try and give lessons out.

Something I learnt in this thread is some people play games they don’t like for achievements and spend “38 hours” doing so.

Wow. Life is too short to spend 38 hours on a game you don’t like and just so you have a few more numbers next to your name on one online service

Lol

@Chaotic_Goat that is how you should post a reply on here. Good stuff. No hate, just saying what you feel and displaying a love for games. I have my day one copy of Elden rings still sealed. I’m scared of it.

I must get to it. Could have saved myself a few quid!

My game of the year is “world of outlaws” so what do I know about gaming. You just turn left a lot.

VS is a cracking little title. I also play it on my iPhone.

It’s 100% a proper game. No issues there.

Not even close to my game of the year. But they deserve the coverage and Income that will follow no issues from me. Awards are just commercial nonsense…. So win lose or draw I don’t pay much attention. It’ll be a real boost for these guys though and that is well deserved.

Why? Such a bizarre move.

EA does it with their service and I don’t know why. Leave old games up. Surely that’s the benefit of a service like this. Expand on games that cost you nothing. Have a proper archive of all your old games.

I hope companies start sorting out licenses so that games stay on digital store fronts and in these services longer. It’s a shame the old Forzas are gone forever. I’m still salty I didn’t buy Horizon 1 rally stuff.

I feel like GPU is having a little lull right now.

@Feffster yeah really enjoying Grid legends. Not started story but doing the career stuff. Great game.

There is no snow in 5 right?!?

I was hoping for snow in this expansion as Rally and snow is a must!

@Feffster 100% agree. People sit down play it on a difficulty where they nail it all as quick as possible so they can come on line and moan (boast) they’ve done it all in an afternoon.

I’ve sunk 100s and 100s of hours into all the Forza Horizons (and Forza MS to be honest) and have not completed a single one. I’ve been “champion” in a few but still so much to do in all of them. Only the original Horizon have I pretty much done it all.

They are games that keep giving and giving if you allow them.

This dlc sounds huge. As bigger than racers used to be…. If it is a bit “barer” than the main map that will be welcome as I’m still daunted when I see so much to do in 4/5.

@pip_muzz it’s an arcade racer. Horizon. It stands to reason that the DLC Rally or otherwise would be arcade. Horizon is very much the “fast and furious” of driving games. Massive budget and accessible. Fun. Not to be taken seriously. Nothing in a single horizon game has been anything but arcade up to now. They were never gonna go full sim.

@fraser hello mate. I have two questions you might know the answer to. I have googled and can’t find a proper clear answer.

I’m about to go away and stay somewhere that I’m not In control of the Wi-Fi (it’s a ronald McDonald house) they have T&Cs you have to accept to connect does the Xbox now allow you to do this? (Like in a hotel)

And if I follow the above instructions will I be able to use gamepass games I’ve downloaded? How often do I have to reconnect, I think I read somewhere a week. I didn’t see a situation where I would ever need the info but here I am.

I’ll dig out a a few disks just In case.

Basically

Does the wireless allow and accept terms splash page.

And bought and GPU games do they work offline in you’ve set as home console?

Thanks

My little one has been in hospital since Jan, I wanna take console up for a a bit of entertainment in evenings just deciding if it’s worth it.

Cheers in advance

Forza has changed into a GaaS beast. 5 is still a truly amazing game. But you have to ignore a lot of noise. Silly time limited nonsense.

These guys know how to make racing games. I can’t wait.

I’d always used this to stack GPU on my one and only account. Stack for 3 years cheap gold and pay a quid and it upgraded the lot for about £3.40 a month.

Loads and loads of people do it.

No way I’ve ever got enough value to pay a £10 a month.

I play too many niche games and same games for too long to pay that sort of money. I knew it would come to an end. It’s been a good run.

I’ll buy Forza and then buy and play the games I want. Not upset it’s over. Makes business sense. I’d expect a dip in numbers as many people using the loop hole will not wanna pay three times the price.

It wasn’t a one time deal you could do three years. It run out and do it again. All for a £1. Just had to stack three years of gold first.

It’s really good.
Best under the umbrella of Xbox studios game since Forza H5… it’s really addictive.

I paid £4.99 for red suit guy just to give them some money for it. I’ve played it loads.

The links to the store would be helpful!!!! Not your pages on the games

Knew the Xbox only crew would be triggered by this story.

Looks a great game. Day one.

Terrible idea. Forza Horizon is by far the game of the generation so far. They don’t need to reinvent the wheel they need to add to and give us a new location that feels different.

I hope it has a nice selection of classic Rally barn finds. That would be brilliant

Excellent setting. I was always gutted i never got the horizon 1 rally expansion before it was delisted.

Really really looking forward to this.

Unfortunately statements about “future events” and a “system fair to everyone” speaks volumes. They went for Microtransactions and milking the fan base and it’s a buggy messy on top.

Firms will eventually go back to unlockable cosmetics in games and games that feel like a deep rewarding experience. They’ll realise the few spenders they hook is nothing compared to being a big game.

Hogwarts Legacy has loads of cosmetics. Loads of unlockables. No Microtransactions.

They were clear about this.

It sold bucket loads.

When gamers know that VC or MT isn’t in a game it helps gain traction for sure

@BANJO that’s impossible no? So the contract is worthless. No way a full cod works on switch. It says not a cloud version too.

COD with day one parity and feature to Xbox on the switch…… that’s simply not possible.

That’s what’s being reported elsewhere.

How can they say they will do that for next ten years?!?

@Kezelpaso the way it was worded before it was definitely a code in a box. The uproar meant they quickly changed their stance. The new wording mentions no code, no way do they give a disc and a code. So what we have here is a U turn.

Which is fine. The disk itself is pointless if it’s an online needed to play solo anyway. As when servers are Turned off if dies.

Like the crew.

I’d like to see no games with solo player elements contain this nonsense

It’s definitely made me buy less. 3rd party games I buy on other platforms now and “wait for gamepass” - I find it hard to believe 26% of readers here pay the monthly fee and happily buy the same amount of games as before. That would suggest not a single game they buy is on gamepass or they pay for gamepass and buy everything even if it’s on gamepass. A quarter of you do that?

I’m saying No. I think they’ve convinced themselves they buy the same amount of games but they really don’t. It makes no sense to do that. I could take 10% would buy everything they play gamepass or not “to support the devs” and use gamepass like playable trials. (I doubt even that % do) but 26% no. You really don’t buy the same amount of games. It’s illogical. Xbox’s own recent figures and admissions say you don’t.

People care of gamepass makes money because Xbox isn’t a charity. I know some on here believe Xbox is some sort of pet project and it can lose money. It can’t. They want it to make money. I want it to sustain. I want gold quality exclusives, I don’t care about “free” games. I’ll happily pay for good games.

On here people want to make anyone that doesn’t like the GPU model an “enemy”…….

@BleedingDreamer Xbox have admitted it in the documents about Activision. The opposite to what they said last year. Pure Xbox haven’t run a piece on it though. Which is strange.

@Skedaddle this is a gaming website about games.
I come on here to talk games.

Go elsewhere if you don’t like it.

Bringing in the suffering of others is disgusting. I give heavily to charity and have done over this case.

I’m currently sat next to my daughter in a hospital, I’ve been in hospital with her for over a month and she is in a serious condition. We were rushed to London two hours from where we live because she took a turn for the worse. So the last thing I need is your toxic nonsense. This is escapism. You should be ashamed

I’ve never insulted anyone on here.

I sometimes want more from Xbox and don’t understand why some posters seem so personally invested in any criticism against the brand.

I’m pleased the online rambling of an ill informed, bonedheaded sexist misogynistic gaming media didn’t actually cause the reported “backlash”.

They kept shouting about it the backlash. Even didn’t cover it as much as they would usually, due to the backlash. Put ridiculous statements out, saying they disagreed with views they hadn’t read and didn’t understand, jumped to massive conclusions and then when the game sold bucket loads they’ve run loads of stories for clicks. Haha.

Modern gaming media for you.

I’m glad it sold well and so many are enjoying it.

Well deserved.

Xbox now admit being on GPU hits your sales HARD.

If you are begging to be on GPU, your game is full of DLC… is looking like it won’t sell so you’ll take a lump sum or is MTX heavy….

Or multiple of the above.

These are strange old GPU propaganda stories these…. You can try and convince us GPU is good for everyone but the evidence more and more is suggesting it might not be.

And I say this a long time subscriber.

Some people will justify and big up GPU at every turn… even these comments here. Lol.

Impossible to choose between PGR and Hit and run. Both stone cold classics.

Xbox should 100% get on a new or remake of PGR.

They won’t… but they should and Rallisport.

@Kilamanjaro it’s the paint festival thing from the game. The powered paint they throw about.

I’ve got the Anniversary one and the Forza one.

I wanted the halo console but missed out.

All three controllers are lovely.

@Baler ditto and Star Wars.