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I’m glad to see reviewers have stayed professional. Although most seem at best ill informed at best, and seemingly want to alienate a huge group of their readership by opting to take sides. Which is a real shame. I did expect better of both pure Xbox and push square.

It’s good see at least the game was reviewed fairly.

At $15 a month I can’t see many going for it at all.

Surely it won’t be that price.

@Skedaddle “us” have a day off. I’ll poke fun at anyone that calls Xbox Sony or Nintendo us!!!

Hahaha.

Do you own shares?

I’m a consumer of all three and a top tier subscriber on all three. I’ll criticise all of them.

You are clearly too invested in the brand

Do not support GaaS games and ignore the GaaS aspects of games even if they are “free” on GPU.

Live service games need to die.
Don’t spend money on FTP games…

Force the industry to change

Disgusting that the solo campaign is being taken away. Refunds should be given.

@trev666 not all businesses are laying off ten percent of their workforce.

Try not defending Xbox at all costs and remember these are people with families and this is their livelihood.

@Would_you_kindly but everyone here told me, money isn’t an issue and GPU makes them billions; they can do what they want?

Do you mean to tell me some people here don’t have a clue what they are talking about? An Xbox is a business and not a passion project in the end.

Hahaha. How can such a statement be a mistake?!?!? Someone typed it up and it won’t be easy to get a statement like this posted.

It’s a U turn (for now) - Xbox best feature is PR, they are amazing at PR….. in recent months, it’s gone horribly wrong, they will lose a lot of momentum if bigger PR mistakes are made.

Sony has terrible PR. Always doing and saying stupid stuff. It’s why Xbox had built up such good will.

Unfortunately it can be eroded quite quickly. I hope they turn it round and stop saying and doing stupid stuff.

As others have said, the actual statement itself isn’t that bad at all. It’s the “it was a mistake” statement that’s worse. How can it be a mistake? Lol.

As for shopfronts closing. Unfortunately that’s modern gaming. See comments here and you see everyone is critical of anyone not keen on the closure and not the other way round.

Although the folk here we are probably in a bubble and more a “protect Xbox at all costs kinda vibe”

Balance is a thing of the past. We must protect large corporations we like from evil neysayers online like we’ve been personally insulted.

Some of you are amazing at it. Xbox will be forever grateful.

Modern gaming where games die quick.

@carlos82 cheers. That sounds way better.

Thanks

Which of these are BC and NOT available any other way?

I’ve already got Off-road and Daytona for sure, I think orange box.

I hate delisting at the best of times but this seems even worse.

I’m not in a position to fire up my old 360 this week and won’t be able to.

Bad form Xbox - bad form. Give a month or more notice. You must have known!

@FreqMode can you read?

I’m talking about IPs that are dormant.

Why are you bringing Sony into it. Yes they sleep on plenty of IPs too.
I’d love to see Motorstorm, Killzone, Wipeout brought back.

Xbox does sleep on their IPs…… why you so defensive? Do you own shares in Xbox?

I’m not entitled. You are a typical online troll. You’ve failed to read the comment, you’ve taken it personally and then you’ve insulted me.

I’ve read your next comment and you say “us” lol.

Ironically Xbox could have made all these games without Bethesda. Ok Bethesda talent is involved but they are original IPs.

That’s my issue. When will we see the big Bethesda IPs…. Xbox sleep on enough of their own big names they don’t need to buy up all these and sleep on them

Also all these big studios have to fit in a sustainable GPU calendar. We would have before or could have got a Bethesda, Xbox studios and activision game all close together. Now we never will.

Anyway any of you spin it - the more they gobble up the less games we get.

I know a lot of you are greedy and selfish. But I’d rather pay for exclusives and have GPU without the exclusives or smaller exclusives and get more games.

I’m a GPU subscriber.

All of you claim last year GPU was amazing value and sung it’s praises all year so why do we need all these big games free?

Let’s have more games, deeper games, less GaaS games from Xbox and get back to what they used to do…… brilliant immersive “only on Xbox” experiences:

I’d stay subbed to GPU AND buy the Xbox only games.

Do it……. Breakaway from a model that’s cause them to buy up all these third party studios to feed to greedy masses.

Make us pay for good games and make the campaigns and experiences as far from GaaS as you can.

@Banjo- playtonic would be my first choice but I haven’t kept up with who is still working there but I’d rather the actual creative forces behind the original games were involved and not just the new license holder - if that makes sense.

@Banjo- no i wasn’t. Someone posted a JPEG about Banjo Bee coming in 2023. Since i posted that I’ve now found out it’s a figure. Second time today I’ve been hyped and then deflated. Star Wars battlefront 2 the OG coming to ps5… awesome news…

It’s the psp version.

It’s like the industry is mocking retro fans.

Genuinely believed we were getting a new game and a classic Star Wars game on ps5…..

As usual my bubble has been burst

@Banjo- not really…… they are made to do that but they don’t….

On better news looks like a new banjo game is coming

@munstahunta it’s a fanboy graphic not an official one. They’re a few floating about always making it looked like it’s a stacked schedule but In all honest it’s all scheduled to change and delays.

A new Banjo game is dropping this year now I believe and thats not on the graphic and that will have a lot of people rightly excited….

@abe_hikura for expansions and DLC in the ultimate edition is a lot of extras. To what is already a robust load of content. I’m not a fan of season passes and dlc in general but if you are going to have them Forza Horizon gets it right IMHO

A bit like the “FTP” Halo multiplayer and the really short campaign…. This is the GPU future.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again I’d rather pay for exclusives and they be the full complete package, with good sized campaigns. That being said £70 is ridiculous.

The industry is on a slippery slope

Underwhelming.

Forza is exactly what it should be. I’m happy with that but nothing to blow me away. It’s where we would expect a Forza game to be.

The shadow drop was interesting. That’s a tick from me.

Redfall, I suspect it’s multiplayer or nothing when devs say it’s solo player but best player multiplayer that’s usually a huge under statement! Xbox are increasing turning their back on solo player experiences. As the rest of the show case showed.

Waited a long time for that and yeah it was serviceable but not blockbuster. I hope they have a lot more up their sleeve and oven ready…. I suspect they don’t.

Played it on N64 recently.
Aged brilliantly. Far better than most modern FPS.
Proper campaign. Great controls. No rubbish gimmicks, no online nonsense.

One for people with taste

Indeed, For England, James.

@Mrzoomer yeah I have the original two set up but something magical about everything on one console and the boosts helped too.

I would play them way more on BC. It’s just easier

I miss the excitement of waiting for the next batch of BC games to be added and then seeing if you could be the rush to get a second copy cheap before they all whacked the prices up.

Rallisport 1&2, PGR, Buffy, Amped…. Just a few I wish would have been added.

Lol.

No mixed messages then.

GaaS you say…..

They always go down real well….

Lol.

Xbox “Manage your expectations”

At least the PR is starting to match the delivery. Before it was “we are making so much money from GPU, people who put their games on GPU make so much money:.. we have so many exclusives coming….”

They sack thousands of staff and say manage your expectations…..

After the last 18 months my expectations have been well managed indeed.

“This year will be our year lads” is wearing thin on me.

Like others have said. Concrete info, and then dates that stick and a steady flow of really really good games.

Deep single player campaigns.

Less GaaS aspects.

They have the studios…. They had plenty of staff… less so now…. Time is to deliver.

@Titntin Aye, all fair points mate. Forza coming is a big one for me, I stacked cheaply so I can’t grumble too much.

It’s obviously a good service. No doubt. Just different folk will find different value.

I miss a flow of exclusives. Last year was a blip but it’s a big blip. Halo disappointing didn’t help either.

I don’t think this year is particularly chocker either.

Day one exclusives is definitely the USP and it’s not really been a factor for a while. I also worry both Activision and Bethesda will release less games than they would have done to fit in with a GPU calendar. They won’t spoil us with exclusives they will release in a planned way. Previous we could have got a acti, Beth and Xbox studios game all in the same month. Now we will get one a quarter maybe two max.

I’d rather pay money and have more games. Especially like I’ve said with solo player campaigns. Halo 8 hours was on the short side when you consider all things.

@awp69 I said “we all value it differently and that’s cool” so whats your point? My point is allow others to have an opinion and not shoot them down. I didn’t shoot down anyone that finds value in it. That’s awesome. My comment was balanced. You need to reread it and not stop as soon as you perceive something was negative. Don’t worry you weren’t the only Xbox defence league member to jump on it and you won’t be the last

@Acurisur again, not at all. Did you actually read the comments. You got it “free” so obviously you think it’s amazing value. Rightly so.

I’d rather pay for exclusives and get more of them.

Nothing in any of my comments has been dramatic.

It’s been balanced and well reasoned.

The Xbox defence league doesn’t care to read though does it. We must at all times praise everything Xbox does.

I love Xbox. I want more exclusives with longer single player campaigns and more single player focus.

If you don’t that’s cool. I’m not mad at you.

Or any of the other people that can’t read.

@fbnaulin what are you talking about? Market?!?

I said “Different people paid for GPU for different reasons and depending on your reasons the value has dipped massively.”

Lots of people sub to GPU for the USP of all the Xbox exclusives day one. We just had a plus with no first party AAA exclusives….. that would indicate that, If you were primarily signed up to enjoy Xbox studios day one exclusives I’d say over 12 months without one is a pretty large dip no?

Why do some of you find it difficult to read and believe that not everyone blindly hands over money for the same reasons as you.

Nothing I’ve said is over blown or unreasonable.

Last year so much PR about how good Xbox was doing - GPU was generating so much money and everyone was celebrating. Money to throw around. What happened?!?!?!?

Maybe the PR was spin?

It seems confusing to me. Added on the money they are splashing on studios and companies… and a year without exclusives. Something is going wrong.

I’m not sure laying off worker bees is the solution mind you.

Sounds like those making “the hard decisions” need to look at themselves and their own positions.

@awp69 can you read? I said we all value it differently. I didn’t attack anyone for finding value in it. My post was quite clear but as usual people like you take offence and offer a defence as to why it’s amazing.

I’m glad you love it. You loving it will keep Xbox strong. If everyone felt like me Xbox would be in trouble. They don’t. That’s good.

I’d prefer to pay for exclusives and get more of them… and longer solo campaigns and focus when they drop.

The other games…. I like niche games and have a back log that’s ridiculous between steam deck, xbsx, ps5 and switch plus older gens and evercade…. So I’m less fussed about random titles. That’s just me.

Hopefully this year will be a turning point for exclusives and content from xbox studios. Xbox OG first gen was mind blowing for “only on xbox”

Makes me laugh people get so defensive of the service like they own shares in it or work for Xbox.

People are allowed to question value. Different people paid for GPU for different reasons and depending on your reasons the value has dipped massively.

People heavily invested in the brand will always find value. To justify the spend…

We all game in different ways. We all pay a different amount for GPU. We will all value it differently.

I love my Xbox SX. I’m a fan of Xbox. I don’t particularly love GPU.

I just wanted a decent solo player campaign. That’s the heart of halo. Xbox studios are all about service games because they want people hooked on subbing.
It was too short this campaign. Undelivered and didn’t have co-op. Wasn’t the devs fault. More casualties of MS complete mismanagement

Too many Xbox shareholders on these pages and not enough gamers.

More delays for Xbox studios. More people saying it’s good news.

Justifying it with twaddle about release windows and corporate jargon.

When Bethesda was purchased my major complaint was that their releases would have to fit in a schedule with Xbox other studios. I was scoffed at. I also said it would lead to leads combined games.

Exclusive are still not hitting us at record pace are they.

LOL. Is xbox trolling it’s own gatekeepers. Love it.

I find it all a bit embarrassing. They say one thing when they are getting you to buy a console and another when trying to push a deal through.

Just make some games with the 4000 studios you already own.

Bethesda have hardly been churning out announcements on new games since they were bought.

How about a new doom? Quake? Wolfenstien? Fallout? No? You need to buy another company to not announce any new games.

Halo, Forza, GOW and COD that’s what you’re saying right?

Exclusives “free” on GPU was always gonna affect quality and quantity and it’s turned out to be true.

I’m not saying GPU isn’t a good service I’m talking purely exclusives. We all want exclusives surely?

I already “owned” everything but Forza 5 (I had all the DLC) as I had GPU. I still paid the 69p to have Forza 5 - was clearly a price error but still not great from a company that everyone tells me has so much money they can do what they want.

Where are the exclusives this year then?

This has been a very very poor year for Xbox and this continues that trend.

On the plus side. Next year has to be better? They can’t release minus 1 exclusives.

In my opinion, whilst this is one of the best World Cup versions of a football game. The depth and number of tournaments in a normal version is incomparable. The World Cup version had bare bones for replayability but was deeper and better than the free updates we now get.

A World Cup game with Historic world cups to play. With proper squads and stadiums would be something. You can play through qualifying and then World Cup 1990 and then jump to 2002… jump back to Brazil 1970…. Now that would be a game!

With nba 2k style filters.

@BBB SWOS the final version is the best footballing game ever and it’s not even close.

@Kaloudz I meant the articles. We expect a Xbox slant to the Xbox in articles and reporting here. Not the comments but to be fair you get people that are blinkered to proxbox over anything in comments and that’s understandable. You own one console and it’s an Xbox it makes sense. I’m not mad at that at all.

I’m not a fan of console wars at all. I own all three top models and steam deck.

But I understand why you have people that are fans of one only and I am fine with it. I think too much of the gaming media is too pro one or the other and often lacks balance. Which is a shame.

The usual snowflakes melting over a throw away comment from someone not related to process.

However IGN editor deeply unprofessional and showing bias by waging in. Will in the future be weary of anything IGN say and do. IGN should really stay neutral and certainly not be encouraging less third party titles. Deeply concerning but unsurprising from the gaming “media” which in recent years have become a bias paid “influencer” style sham of what it was. Fortunately we have to protect the good ones. No shade at anyone at Pure Xbox - it’s called pure Xbox. You be as bias as you like it’s why we are here.

One comment on this article on a Xbox exclusive website says it all.

Last big Xbox studios exclusive we were given on GPU too. Seems like a long long time ago.

lol at the anger here.

I can’t imagine having this amount of loyalty anger and passion against one plastic box vs another plastic box.

Even with people saying it wouldn’t work. I really hope they go back and patch VII so we can play it 3rd person. The way all RE should be

@Sol4ris I agree. My comment was a response more to the constant narrative that anyone that opposes the deal is a Sony fanboy and the deal can only be a good thing. Which is such a biased. “I want more “free” games on GPU” we all do.

Sony should challenge it just like Xbox would. I’m not emotionally invested in either massive corp. i own both. I want more independent thriving publishers and studios not less.

I don’t want all these masssive IPs fitting in under one corporation calendar budget and release schedule.

@StylesT what?!? So you are one then. You’ve literally said it’s ok to be biased because you get benefits. I have a GPU and I think it’s an awful idea. But I’m not selfish.

@BRT15 aye, someone in this very thread claims “Boris is the sanest of them all”

We need to not allow these people to decide anything.

It’s like people don’t actually understand what has happened or what is happening and why….

@Sol4ris EA would be way more contentious to causal fan boys you lot CONSTANTLY moan about.

@StylesT just to let you know some complete no lifer Xbox fans are gonna beg for the deal to be approved.

Excellent news. As we know from Xbox Pr team.

Who we know are always right. Exclusives are good for everyone.