In all fairness Forza will leave the service. Forza unfortunately still get delisted. Usually though they gift the game to anyone that owns it.

I kinda hope they sort it out so Forzas don’t disappear so quick.

Xbox know how to do a showcase and trailer we know this. They are the best in the business by far.

So I strip away the gloss and cinematics and think about gameplay shown and stuff we didn’t already know….

It’s a C.

Hype A+ and hype isn’t a bad thing.

@Darylb88 I don’t bother engaging with him. He is a classic troll and over the top “Xbox only”

“Gaming nerds respond angrily to rap music in game advert”

Fixed headline.

Once again “gamers” seem to react badly to something based on something other than gameplay. By that I mean race. Also very funny how suddenly everyone is a historian

Forza is a big enough game for me I’m happy at whatever else is announced this year.

I have no interest in seeing games that are years away so the promise of all coming very soon games is good.

Why does Uk never get the movies…..

LOTR is one of the easiest and most video game friendly franchises. How many games could be LOTOR but don’t have the license. Set in a similar generic universe.

We get the odd good one and then awful ones. Ps3 had a decent run of good ones.

Another limited edition console and controller.

Xbox is winning the war of limited edition consoles for sure.

@Altaria_97 agree with this.

3, 1, 5, 2, 4 for me. But they are very close like so close. In all reality 5 is a better game than 1 but 1 is still so so good I put it slightly a head. 2 gets bonus points the extra Fast and Furious game.

Forza Horizon and Motorsport are easily the best games by miles under the Xbox umbrella. They are up there with the best games full stop. Getting other studios involved makes sense.

lol at more jpegs of up coming games…..

“50 games coming” all filler no killer….

Even the killers have turned out to be filler….

Some awesome custom controllers though….

I hope it’s a great showcase and I hope we get some big solo player games. I hope we don’t have desperate looking JPEG’s putting a spin on it after and everyone is genuinely hyped. That would be nice. The faux hype by some is exhausting

I wasn’t sure I loved this when I first saw it but I do

@Zoidpilot4 says a guy that will defend anything Xbox do.

@FatalBubbles this for sure and also most people just don’t understand the principle of why we have laws and protections.

@LoquaciousB do you have kids and how old are they?

Do you think we should have any laws and protections?

Seatbelts?
Drinking age?

Surely parents can make sure kids don’t drink until they should?

Everyone should want to wear a seat belt so why have a law?

Protections exist for a reason.
Don’t wish away protections

Disgusting from the FTC. Xbox should pull all their products from the corrupt USA….
Xbox did nothing wrong. They never can do wrong.

Same as Sony and Nintendo recent ones I’ll read about it after. They’ve all been terrible last few years. Games coming in 4 years honest. Then the most hyped arrive and aren’t quite worth 4 years of hype.

They’ll never learn.

I’m not excepting anything massive. It’ll be nice to see some Forza. That will be a 9/10 with ease.

5 seasons of what?!?!? It’s a WRC game it should have all the WRC content included?!?

Is it gonna have other content? Just 5 seasons of classic content seems excessive. I’m not a fan of all this season nonsense

Roster size and list now please…..

God comments like this are such a turn off.

Yeah skip the U.K.

Pull your operations from the U.K.

Double dare you…..

(Now read all the comments here and wow. Time to a take a break from here until this is all over)

Confirms roster will be at least 50. I’d guess that it’ll be very close to that number from what they said before.

Five is better than Four imho. The map is way better for me. I do miss some of the cool weather 4 had mind you, I still play all the horizons. 5 currently has me hooked. Currently playing from start again on steam deck but I avoid all of the game as a service playlist nonsense. Just enjoy the racing and cars. Not the FOMO of timed challenges. Shame so much content is locked in those modes that will vanish forever relatively quickly.

Responding to comments here - You can’t have a subscription model based on day one exclusives and not have exclusives. They should have a more robust pipe line of titles. A showcase should have plenty to discuss for the Next 12 months of releases. It’s a strange spin to say Xbox are doing this because of delays. He is saying - the showcase will feature games not planned for release in the next 12 months. Which would suggest sparse offerings already before delays.

They should be having 4/5 big releases planned in next 12 months. More than enough for a good showcase.

Doesn’t bode well for the planned releases for the next 12 months. It seems like we’ve been teased with games that will come for years and years. We need games to start to come. The hype for Redfall now looks ridiculous. They’d be better on just delivering at this point not teasing a game 4 years away.

“No loss” is not an intelligent or sensible response. People paid for this game and it’s being removed less than a year after release. This is outrageous.

The apathy from the gaming industry to stand up against rubbish like this is mind blowing.

@lacerz it’s hilarious people still claim there is a boycott. It’s the uneducated not understanding a complex issue. Which is a shame. Coz many of them need educating.

Either way it’s a good game and been an interesting spectator sport watching the faux anger at the game.

Ubisoft have massive sales and their games don’t hold their price physically either.

So it’s a never from me. Even their big games day one is no pull….. the cost is ridiculous.

Two people have said they will pay in this entire thread and both for the new AC game. Just buy it. Honestly.

@WallyWest for many their console choice is like supporting a football team…. You do it blindly and hate anyone that doesn’t agree with everything they do and say.

Where as much like politics - you shouldn’t blindly support any single company blindly and should act like a customer and not a “fan”, you should not support a political party you should support the one making the best policies at the time.

Lol. Very reliable sources said the CMA would approve it too. As reported here. People aren’t learning. Best wait for the actual result eh.

Don’t hang out any bunting just yet.

@Kevw2006 fair dues. Still having involved is for me personally a bad look. This guy has no morales and has represented some horrible people. I know people will say…. That’s lawyers and maybe they are right. Just not a fan of “Pannick on the streets of London”

EA are only number one because COD sells better elsewhere. COD numbers will be bonkers on Xbox if the deal goes through. Although with the gamepass and them technically being Xbox studios do they count? So probably EA are right. EA will be happy as less 3 party big publishers the bigger a partner they are. It’s less competition for them I guess.

Pannick is not a nice guy.
He has a very dubious track record.

The second dodgy one Xbox have employed in the fallout.

I’m not a fan. These are loop hole specialists. No one should be a fan of exploiting loop holes.

@eduscxbox that isn’t true. The Xbox community is the most forgivable community and fiercely loyal in any commercial arena. They can do no wrong. It’s part of how we are where we are. People lap it up no matter what this guy says and no matter what they do.

I hope all his PR and bluster finally comes true. This is a big month and it’ll either be mind blowing or more of the same…..

Let’s hope it’s a blockbuster, the showcase will set the tone.

He keeps telling us big things are coming. Redfall wasn’t it. Let’s hope it’s just a blip.

@Dezzy70 nail on head mate. They should pause everything and just focus on GOOD games. Nothing will lead to success more than good games.

You can make money with average games that have addictive and cash grab mechanics….. but it won’t work if you are a console seller. Everyone is chasing fortnite model. Average game that’s addictive.

I really really dislike this guy.

He is all spin and setting the agenda.

It’s nonsense to suggest microsoft can’t compete. Stop playing the underdog. You are Goliath. Not David.

This we can’t compete if we make good games. Give me strength.

They need to sack this guy. You make good games, and make them often and you’ll compete. Fact. People want the best games. They want a console that gives them the best games. The reason the bought Bethesda and Activision is for good popular games. To try and catch up and make money.

I think the issue is Microsoft just want to make money and don’t care how they do it. So they are trying to do it with a strategy that doesn’t include making good games. It includes making games.

It’s so strange.

They don’t make bad games I’m not saying that. They make ok/good games. But that isn’t their main strategy and that’s so weird.

A lot of pressure on this release as many of us are awaiting for the gold at the end of a long long rainbow.

The game may have bugs and issues (it does) but the main problem is it’s not a very good game. Patches aren’t gonna fix that.

Xbox have told me “it’s the day I’ve been waiting for”for the last two years, hyping every showcase and the hype for Redfall was huge….

I’m still waiting. They need to start delivering and then the hype means something. The good will they’d built will only last so long

User score here is 7.3…. And one of the first comments is about “review bombing” 😂

What’s the opposite of that???

The issue is Xbox are telling their studios they want games with live service elements that have multiplayer/co-op elements….. ironically the one game people wanted co-op - halo - didn’t have it.

I believe you have to let studios do what they want. With Xbox owning so many and with the gamepass model. Let these studios be free. Forget the service elements to hook people into subscriptions. Good games will do it more.

Us Xbox owners are constantly trying to hype up these games in the face of reviews like this because we are invested but seriously…… it’s hard work.

The VGC review was painful. They are big big big Xbox fans over there. It’s basically an Xbox fan site and the review reads honestly and like a 2/3 and he then gives it a 4 just to stay on brand. I feel for him.

I want this game to be a 4 out of 5 too. But it’s just not.

Xbox studios and whoever oversees all the content and joins it up for GPU calendar needs to take a time out and realise it’s not working. We went a year without an exclusive. We got a seriously compromised Halo. We’ve waited for the promised pipe line of hits and when the first big hyped game comes along it isn’t even close to delivering.

Stop the 4 player nonsense. Stop the always online nonsense. Stop the live service.

Get 4 or 5 banging solo player games out of the pipe line and then add in and sprinkle those games with the extras.

Your fans and subscribers will thank you.

You have the studios and the talent to do it.

Another day one game rushed and clogged up with live service style elements. To be fair we were warned. It’s a shame. We need a certified 8/9 on GPU very soon.

We know Forza will be. Forza Horizon was too. But I feel like a good solo player campaign needs to get 8/9 across the board.

After reading about a series of updates in the first few weeks to fix “issues” I’ve held off buying.

Really looking forward to this game but will wait for updates to be issued.

@Titntin I have to agree. I’ve especially struggled that the xenophobic comments against the U.K. have been allowed to stay here. Like the U.K. is a mess but so is everywhere. The CMAs decision shouldn’t be triggering the abuse it is.

I’ve said it from the start the focus should be games and not acquisitions and even gamers now seem more interested in discussing dividing and abusing each other.

So what you own a Playstation and I own a steam deck or whatever - let’s all be civil and discuss a love of gaming.

I own Xbox SX, ps5, oled Switch and steam deck.

The relentless defend “my console” narrative is pathetic.

This whole sorry affair has brought out the worst in so many and quite a few posters here I thought were nice people really aren’t. The bile they’ve posted is disgusting.

Also so many are still willing to die on a hill when they’ve been misinformed and don’t understand the topic.

Either way.

I look forward to games. Especially the massive pipe line of xbox games apparently coming…. Let’s hear more about them and not acquisitions all the time.

@Markatron84 this whole saga has brought out the worst in many. Especially in the last few days. Ridiculous overblown reactions on both sides. People really wanted COD for free and were so invested I’m actually quite shocked.

Ditto on the celebrations on the other side.

The xenophobic comments towards the U.K. have been OTT too.

Mixing comments would be a disaster.

I personally can’t wait for it all to be over whichever way it goes.

I won’t play COD if it’s free on my GPU or if I have to pay for it, I’d like more third party games and more competitive markets so that’s my only horse in the race and even then it’s a grey area on this deal with the Bobby stuff and the fact they already sleep on all their IPs.

It’s a mess.

@Kevw2006 exactly. If the deal was a clear cut as so many “experts” claimed - no way would Xbox be throwing 10 year deals like candy.

Their whole strategy has been one to try and push the deal through. These deals are now all sounding a bit silly.

@Sol4ris that made me lol.

A few on here a fully paid up members of the “project fear” everything is a conspiracy when they lose GBeebies style of life. I suspect our Nintendo themed friend might be Farage. Makes about as much sense.

A company working with Microsoft back Microsoft.

Hold the front page.

At least you can see the logic of what they say. It’ll make their offering better. Greed again.

Same as the nonsensical ramblings of some on here. “CMA is corrupt” - ok Trump.

Don’t like a result - call it fake and corrupt.

It’s sad people are like it.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner @Hamst88 yeah I used to think that poster was a sensible guy. He has embarrassed himself with his responses to this deal.

So many just seem blind to what was always going to be a complex deal.

As soon as Xbox started 10 year deals and taking adverts in tube trains trying to push the deal through I knew it was on the skids.

If it was a “clear” as so many made out they wouldn’t have bothered with any of that.

@Titntin lmao!!!!! Finally some light relief in all this.