Gamers are a funny bunch.

Unfortunately huge job cuts were always coming at Xbox And the studios under them. All avoidable but big decisions were always going to lead us here.

I feel for the staff and families affected

I hope the studio and blade can be saved.

Solid lists. Of the first couple of lists which are the most interesting - 7 of the first list I’d snap up and 4 of the next list.

PC backwards - I’ll take anything. Same as play anywhere just keep adding please.

Would love to see Forza games and DLC relisted (I own all the games but need a few bits of dlc)

All the Forzas on disk to digital and play anywhere.

Also bring back the paint job share tool thing

@GeeEssEff yeah. It’s a myth. Litterally debunked over and over and the opposite is actually true yet look at the comments here. The internet made people stupid. Billionaires have taken advantage. Work from home and flexible working is Litterally the best way to have a productive workplace

Undisputed wasn’t terrible but over promised and underdelivered especially around the roster. For years they announced boxers and some never made it and the dlc packs and prices meant the entire roster cost a small fortune. Especially for people that bought the game day one.

Boxer share on Fight night was epic

Th controller and console are the best two looking special editions in years.

I bought it and it’s a shame so many people listen to angry “influencers” that bury games. Yeah this game has issues but for £20 and to support a game like this that isn’t Rockstar or Ubisoft is worth it to me.

Back in Xbox and 360 era we had more varied games coz people would buy games they fancied and not just games someone on the internet told them to

Typical. I often flip a coin to decide what platform to buy mutliplatform on. If it’s play anywhere I’ll get Xbox obviously. Wish games would be play anywhere from launch and Disk to digital. That would make deciding much easier. It’s juggling install space.

Anyway I bought this on ps5 😂

@Fiendish-Beaver it’s an uncomfortable truth the GP model doesn’t work and especially doesn’t work with exclusives.

The sooner they fix that issue the quicker the conversation about exclusives can make sense.

Hahah did any of you really believe the biggest game in the world had signed an exclusive deal to stream on Xbox?!? Why would they do that? The money Xbox would have to pay would have been eye watering. Think about stories before you blindly believe them.

I’m sorry but there is no way anything she has done in a few months would see any significant growth. It’s ridiculous to claim. If anything it worries me she has had to make this claim.

Mate I mention music otherwise some wise bum would have said it’s not just cars it music, it’s neither. No other car game has this delisting issue. Other car games (old) are on disk to digital.

Agree on last part why isn’t the new one. It’s all very very very odd. For years the Forza series has these odd anomalies.

Maybe it is “licensing” but other games with 100s of cars manage it. Xbox need to negotiate these contracts better.

I’m so invested in this coz Forza is easily my most played series by 100s of hours.

It’s wild that people make excuses for Forza games being delisted and not involved on licensing. As if it’s the only car game with real music. So Need for speed games are ok, Dirt games, old F1 games etc etc etc. delisted games like Deadpool

The truth is Xbox for years have had this as a tactic to force players to the latest version.

Stop making excuses for it

Forza games not being supported is wild 😂

Before anyone says it’s licensing plenty of games that are in license hell now are supported

@RTGX honestly his post was Xbox propaganda and trolling. All of them innovate massively. You make lists for all of them and how they’ve impacted others. Including Sega.

Sony for example ps3 era went region free and for me personally that was massive. At the time that was not normal.

Many features - like built in batteries in controllers - are celebrated by some and hated by others.

Disc to digital is something personally I love and all of them should have done years ago.

I’ve been called a “hater” for years but the gamepass model wasn’t sustainable- when they bought Bethesda and Call of Duty and all that it became untenable. People got greedy and wanted more and more on gamepass and it was never ever gonna work and now we are seeing the fallout.

The market share they needed and for them all to take out gamepass and pay for the premium passes and all that was huge. They banked on that and it just didn’t happen. Too many used perks or stacking, cheap codes.

It’s a mess at this point because the disappointment is real that the reality was they couldn’t keep this up

Wish this was Third person

Day one for £20 - got Mindseye for £10 and had 15 hours with it and enjoyed - almost at end and got the dlc stories to do

My experience with streaming is awful. I’ve cancelled my GPU and so the answer is zero.

@Weebleman I wouldn’t bother mate he says things like “companies don’t work like that” he will defend and justify anything, Xbox knew from the start they would charge for this in long run and it was the plan. Hook people to sub and buy devices and then charge more. I’m just not sure people are gonna pay more and more and more. That’s all that seems to be happening here. Charge more for less

@Zenszulu they sold the devices (which I told everyone were not Xboxs) and now if you wanna use it for more than 30 mins a day you have to pay extra. It’s criminal to change it this way IMHO

When I questioned if Activision was a sensible deal and said it would mean less games, high prices for GPU and a worse service people claimed I was a “hater” not a “real fan” (I’m not I’m a real consumer) everything I said would happen has happened.

GPU isn’t even a good deal anymore let’s be brutally honest it went from the best thing in gaming to what it is now.

The hype guys that leap around in every comments section cheerlead on things like Xbox anywhere, action titles filling out GPU etc - almost everything now is now where near what everyone said it would be.

They’ve tried to hook people into these services but I’d be flabbergasted if people willingly pay extra for extra time.

It’s just time to say no.

Sony and Xbox aren’t fighting to be the best. Just least worse. Who can make the most profit driven terrible decisions and still maintain a lead - it used to be who could be the best console with the best features. I miss those days

Ubisoft and Forza games are a shock and tbh hugely disappointing hope it changes

I had no idea it didn’t include BC titles my buzz for this is now greatly diminished. I’m glad you did these FAQs it’s still a cool feature but BC disk to digital would have been HUGE

@Exerion76 this. It’s ridiculous to name the a nightmare scenario….. Litterally millions and millions of things are a worse scenario. Even for rockstar this won’t affect sales at all.

“Nightmare scenario” what a snowflake. Interacting and posting about leaks encourages them. If you want to end them stop talking and posting about them.

I never understood the appeal but also don’t understand the faux rage either.

Makes me laugh everytime a discussion starts about BC people start with “it’ll never happen due to licenses” - check the BC list so many licensed games. You’ll often find companies like free money from the licenses. It’s why so many old games get “remasters”

lol

As an owner of XSX and a PS5 I absolutely love all this emotional nonsense over exclusives. I have my popcorn and enjoy the meltdowns.

Xbox are intentionally making it vague and allowing themselves to change the rules and do what they want. That’s ok. I don’t really have an issue with what they’ve done or doing.

Once they decided on the ridiculous takeovers they were going to have to make money from somewhere.

The new management team are on a hiding to nothing paying for bad decisions before them.

As long as Xbox studios are making great games that should be enough to allow Xbox to thrive - if games come to ps later or occasionally day one I don’t think it’ll damage the brand really.

I think if they’d not bought Activision like many got really really excited for….. we wouldn’t be having all this and they’d have all their exclusives still. Funny how things don’t always work out how people say or want….. Activision didn’t lead to a load more games on gamepass…. It did lead to price rises and did lead to less exclusives….

Who knew? Oh yeah I did I said all this would happen.

Halo obviously

Honestly what a load of words to say not much concrete at all….. somethings are happening and some extra stuff is coming… and a big game is miles off

It funny isn’t it that some games are live service but aren’t pushed that way so people don’t call them that. But other games people leap all over for being “live service”

So many analysts and experts here that pivot and change their view and claim they know best and bizarrely constantly Xbox knows best and Xbox aren’t disappointed

Xbox said they aimed for by now well over double this. The proof it’s going back up is just not there. Many people have stacked or buy 12 month or years - so we won’t know for 12 months how many really cancel or plan to cancel: not buy or stack again.

Xbox has a balancing act here…. Not alienate the 30m they have on the hook, attract more and make it more profitable as 70m they wanted is clearly pie in the sky.

Removing COD proves they know this as COD was the work the thought would make it boom and it was never gonna. Many cod players are happy to pay their £80 and just play that.

I wonder how many people are just paying to get online. I would think now that 30m is bottom heavy?!?!? Who knows…. Xbox. 😂

XBOX is back baby…..

That’s what they said

The new CEO is smashing it, Xbox are back, she gets it…. First she made two games exclusive, then she put XBOX in caps, she reduced the price of GPU (but still higher than before in initial crazy hike) and now this massive rise in price.

We are back.

Cha-ching. On the rocket to the moon.

All joking aside. With joblosses and now this it’s hard to be a cheerleader for team green yet still some manage

Looking forward to this one. A lot.

I never knew about auto drive I’ve played Forza games for literally 100s of hours 😂

Season one of the Forzathon was awesome - could do all the unlocks and get all cars. Season 2 they’ve gone back to how it was before. Inpossible without doing online challenges. So many cars fenced off to online only. Such a shame they ruin their own game with this nonsense

So this continuous loop was about an hour short of the campaign for the last Halo game….. 👀….. what a bizarre decision to give us six hours of this and as usual we have people in the comments section excited….. like honestly? Over a title screen. Xbox could do anything at this point and get praise 😂

The main character just doesn’t look likeable at all he looks like the sort of insta influencer that pops up and tells us to maximise our performance at the gym… some sort of manosphere fella….

@DennisReynolds you think they are gonna port them and not give them a better resolution?

That would be a very very surprising move.

I’m not expecting a remake but I’m expecting more than just a straight port tbh

Just gonna go get my popcorn. Purexbox the last few weeks has been pure Theatre…. The comments section are part comedy part tragedy…. Shakespeare couldn’t match it…

Interesting to see how the latest drama plays out

What?!?!? I don’t want to jump to level maxed out. What a load of nonsense. Who asked for that?

Xbox and their studios sometimes need to ignore the needy instant gratification crew. Let the game breathe a bit

@Jean_McClane when Xbox bought all these external companies the elephant in the room was how to measure success giving all the games day one gamepass means plays aren’t as invested to play them if they bought them and also with Xbox studio games you know they are staying put so it’s easy to say actually I need to play these third party games before they “vanish” so you end up gaming how people game. It’s clearly damaged engagement in some games. Maybe the games are worse but the psychological aspect of how gamers engage must be different on a sub service compared to when paying directly for a game. You also then have the way you decide what’s good for the service. If players play a “short” game for 8 hours in three day they might be delighted and love it and finish it….. a live service game they might return and keep checking in on and doing some challenges and going no not for me still but over 2 years clock up 16 hours - which is better? The game might say I don’t like the second game but loved the first. It’s now tricky. Xbox will prefer the 2nd coz they stayed sub for 2 years and engaged with said game.

This comment section is wild. You can be pro Xbox and pro Xbox above everything else and that’s fine but the levels of crazy being shown in these comments - I think I need to start muting people. It’s tiring reading them 3/4 of you that defend and twist everything read like Bots tbh

@kuu_nousee the 5 a side mode ❤️

I came here to post it’s the best World Cup version but miles off the depth of a normal fifa….. I see I’d r already done that last time you posted this 😂

Can’t wait for this….

Looks like “Forza Unleashed”

@IllusiveMan what gets me is the same people that said every decision Phil made was brilliant and Xbox was “back” and all the same stuff they are saying now and if Xbox sack her in six months they’ll be saying “brand is now in safe hands I have faith” 😂 it’s like have a day off mate. I roll my eyes so hard at some of the people here honestly.

On her actual words. It’s “We’ve sweetened you up by not giving your mates that own a PlayStation gears or war but now come some stuff you won’t like”

Let’s hope whatever is to come they stay positive they didn’t seem to mind Xbox employees losing their livelihoods earlier

Some people here, have the hottest takes, the most arrogant way of posting and such a blinkered way of looking at stuff… it’s baffling

They are not bothered about people losing their livelihoods but care if their mate can play an Xbox game on their PlayStation 😂

It’s so tribal I don’t and will never understand it.

I’m enjoying coming here less cos of a couple of people. It’s a shame.

@Qozmyk it’s a long game for sure, they are trying to appease everyone at the moment and that can’t last….. here the “Xbox is back” comments annoy me more than anything tbh…. Where they been?!? They’ve made consoles and great games consistently no? Back from where? Drives me bonkers this constant cheering it on like a football club.

She is a sensible and has been tasked with putting plasters over the issues the rabid loyalists want and keeping the more pragmatic consumers on board…… if she is saying “Xbox isn’t healthy” - coming on the same article and saying “Xbox is back” and shooting down “experts” who basically have said - Xbox isn’t healthy and need to change direction…. They are doing that and the same people moan at the people that said Xbox needed new management 😂

Xbox lost its way not with games or content but with decisions….. bad decisions over and over…. Ignore the noise inside the Xbox only bubble and just make good decisions and long term we will thrive imho

@Banjo- fair dues. Thanks for the info.. I only PC game on a steam deck so I’ve never used the play anywhere stuff really, I know I could set it up on it but I haven’t…

@themightyant cost is the only reason. If Xbox studio games are more expensive on steam. I bought Forza Horizon 6 on Xbox over steam for now even though I’d play it more on the deck.

Stream playing games still isn’t the big draw many seem to think. More people in the world have internet connections that make it a horrible experience over a good one so I still don’t think play anywhere is the huge pull people here think and the fact she says Xbox isn’t healthy would suggest people aren’t throwing money at them