Clocked up nearly 150 hours on steam deck and probably similar on XSX what a game. Won’t get for ps5 until on a sale as I’ve played it so deeply twice. But a no brainer purchase for anyone that doesn’t have an xbox but has a ps5. It’s a monster of a game. Generational game
After huge gaps in the schedule over last few years it’s a bit cheeky to say “no you are getting too many games” 😂 but it was always gonna happen. Xbox have limited the amount of games they can put out a year. Whilst stacking IPs.
@cardcrusher29 first level I failed the stealth and just blasted my way through and I passed the mission. I haven’t played more yet but it seems you don’t have to do all stealth if you don’t want.
@Lup I know you didn’t ask me but I’ll answer anyway. Depends on the game and price. I have gone for gold here. Not ultimate as the extra money is two attires and there are plenty of attires in the game. I rarely buy games day one so if I do it means I really want them and then often I do like to see what I get extra. College football I went with thr MVP bundle mainly coz i got cheaper credit and then with it getting madden included in meant it was £55 a game which was a lot cheaper than it by itself. I wouldn’t have bought madden this year but went for it anyway.
@Altaria_97 this. Some games you know you will enjoy universe and feeling…. If it’s a 7 and an open world Star Wars game for me that’s gonna be more like a 9.
@Mustoe why not they do….. same as eurogamer. Most of us have our own score in built adjuster from years of reading reviews and learning certain bias from certain reviews and sites. I know with certain games I can take off or put on a few points depending on what the review says and who says it.
I’m surprised so many people read a review of a game they were. Excited for and say - 7 out of 10 shame I was looking forward to this. As if 7 is a bad score.
Kudos to the reviewer. Didn’t fall into the YouTube “have to hate this game” trap. Got why a lot of us love Star Wars and explained everything I wanted to know without spoilers. Excited for my copy to arrive. I appreciate you for this review.
The comments on games make me laugh. “Doesn’t do much new” GOOD. I wanted an open world game that plays a bit like uncharted but in the Star Wars universe. Don’t reinvent the wheel. Sounds like I’ll have plenty of fun with this.
I’m sorry Quake and Xbox studios do not need to be using limited Run. Same as Star Wars games. Ridiculous. Small indies and one man band games are where Limited run has a place
@PsBoxSwitchOwner yeah I just got College football on ps5 as it worked out way cheaper with cheap credit on websites. I could get cheap Xbox credit too…. Just Sony was cheaper.
Xbox are careful not to announce figures and definitely have never said how these people pay….. how many use rewards, how many use the many work rounds, how many pay full whack, I hope it does well but I don’t see these figures as right at all.
Im absolutely loving it. Been 10 long years and my ps3 (coz its region free and im in the uk) and NCAA football 14 has been played constantly and regularly but finally it can take a break.
Just playing campus legend at the moment and it’s great. A few things missing that should be in but to have a college sports game again. I can see why it is shifting consoles.
It was clearly more games and more acquisitions meant the service was expanding, this was going to being additional costs whatever they claimed. They said anything they could to get the deals pushed through without backlash as a business that’s what you do. It was obvious this was coming.
As with all sub services different people find differing values, COD will be a massive pull for some and well worth extra money and for other not.
Unfortunately the narrative and belief by many this wasn’t coming derailed a lot of discussion within the acquisition discussion, I was vocal in my opposition because I don’t play cod and didn’t want pay more for game pass as it wouldn’t offer me the extra value.
The morale of the story is allow discussion, sometimes accept the obvious and occasionally challenge brands even the ones you love.
I’m sure plenty will still pay this fee. This was always the plan.
@Banjo- anyone that claims “when Sony doesn’t or Nintendo doesn’t” is too invested on one side. I don’t do “supporting one bit of plastic” or pretending one is victim to anything:…
They aren’t they all suffer backlashes and they all do crazy stuff.
I’m a consumer to all three and act like a consumer. When everyone starts acting like a consumer the gaming industry will a fair healthier place.
Honestly on here this week I’ve seen more flip flops than on a beach.
Let’s wait and see what’s announced.
Don’t defend what you don’t know. Don’t claim it’s not a big deal. Xbox don’t have public announcements for things that they don’t think are a big deal.
Don’t sell your Xbox when nothing has been announced and nothing will change what your plastic box could do yesterday, it will still do it tomorrow.
The extremes in society now are ridiculous.
I said in the week….. on MS can kill Xbox and they won’t do that.
If you don’t like the direction fine (I don’t like the acquisitions or game pass that much) I still love Xbox.
Do I want more and better from them, yes same as I do most businesses as a consumer why wouldn’t I want more for my money. They record huge huge profits.
Anyone actively asking for less or calling others “entitled” whilst not understand that word are plain silly.
Great stuff as that system made the game very unattractive for a lot of players. It might be too little too late as gaming moves so fast these days. 5,6,7 are all amazing games. Love everyone of them. The online requirement for this game and the Forza quick delisting issues means this game is just not that appealing and that’s a real shame, as I don’t want to commit hours and hours to a game that will be completely unplayable in a couple of years. The ticking timebomb of online only games is ridiculous and needs to be addressed. Let us play games when they go offline
Anyone claiming they know what Xbox will do are just as bad as those saying they will sell their Xboxes and as for again blaming “the Sony crew” it’s ridiculous.
The Xbox community, we need to look at ourselves and how we’ve responded and dealt with firstly the mergers and secondly these rumours before we start throwing rocks about.
Nothing Xbox announces will change what your Xbox can do, will not change the games it can play, worst case it’ll mean more money for more and deeper games.
Even if Gears ends up on ps5 so what it’s been out years and years…..
The toxic nature that some go about their fave bit of plastic and cables is ridiculous. The same people that are furious now are the same people mad at anyone that suggested the mergers might not be as good as they seemed.
All some wanted was more games on game pass. That’s fine. I understand but also there was always gonna be a cost.
I’m all for Xbox studios releasing on other platforms. They won’t release everything and with all the third party IPs they now own it makes sense.
Honestly I can’t really see why anyone would be upset or selling their console.
Multiple places have reviewed this game well. Many many people that actually played the test version…. Said it was good.
Everyone is ready to pile on.
It’s not that bad and is in fact a good game and people claim WB paid off the reviewer?!?
Not that a few angry YouTubers that are angry at this game are angry for clicks maybe? Like all the other half decent games that get buried.
And as for “8 is a half decent score” comments. No 8 out of ten is an excellent score. It’s a strange world where people think a 8 of ten is just decent.
The state of the comments here. If this was Sony the same people would be saying VERY different things.
This is 1900 families that now have a real struggle at the worst of times
The company spent billions.
It’s a bad look. Those saying “this is expected” could you be more preprogrammed but the richest 5% the rich 5% have double their wealth in the last few years. Whilst the rest have shrunk their wealth.
This isn’t needed and the richest will still make record profits.
@trev666 that’s not how it works in a gamepass model. Games need to make players play them over a long period. Gone are the days they expect players to binge a game in a weekend and move on.
Guys like this Twitter that’s quoted defending this are the worst thing about gaming. Large businesses are always terrible and make decisions that make no sense. It’s why we must call them out. Demand better and more. The constant apologists…. They have no excuse. They get no profits. They just defend defend defend blindly. Never defend a company blindly like you are on a “team” remember you are a customer and not a “fan” demand more and don’t be offended if others want more or better.
The Xbox community used to be my fave. Last few years more and more it’s become toxic. Luckily loads of people here and otherwise are still awesome.
Just don’t take criticism of a company personally. Don’t believe in console wars or culture wars.
If you don’t think it’s a big deal that’s fine but it might be to others.
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Re: Forza Horizon 5 Officially Announced For PS5, Drifts Over In Spring 2025
Clocked up nearly 150 hours on steam deck and probably similar on XSX what a game. Won’t get for ps5 until on a sale as I’ve played it so deeply twice. But a no brainer purchase for anyone that doesn’t have an xbox but has a ps5. It’s a monster of a game. Generational game
Re: Sony's New $320M 'Alliance' Has Left Xbox Fans Breathing A Sigh Of Relief
Surely this would have been awesome news just like the Bethesda or Activision deals??? Everyone here loves 3rd party companies disappearing….
Oh hypocrisy…. I get ya.
I was against Bethesda and Activision and I was against this….. I’m consistent, informed and sensible.
Others should try it
Re: Xbox Fans Plead With Microsoft: 'Don't Forget About Us Physical Gamers'
They already forgot about us.
Re: Xbox Delayed Avowed Purely Because Of Its 2024 Game Pass Schedule
After huge gaps in the schedule over last few years it’s a bit cheeky to say “no you are getting too many games” 😂 but it was always gonna happen. Xbox have limited the amount of games they can put out a year. Whilst stacking IPs.
Re: Opinion: As The Dust Settles On PS5 Pro, I'm Still Glad Xbox Didn't Bother
Some really hot takes in here. Reverse the situation and brands and then see if you still feel the same.
I see people making the opposite points to they were when this gen launched just coz it’s suits their console preference now.
I felt the same then as I do now no matter which company is doing what.
Stay true to yourself not the brand
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Will Tweak Its 'Unfair' Stealth In Next Xbox Patch
People that played to game “the game is good and I’ve enjoyed”
People that haven’t played the game “it’s junk and too late to fix it”
Lol
Re: Review: Star Wars Outlaws (Xbox) - Robust Stealth & Immaculate Vibes Make For A Super Star War
@cardcrusher29 first level I failed the stealth and just blasted my way through and I passed the mission. I haven’t played more yet but it seems you don’t have to do all stealth if you don’t want.
Re: Review: Star Wars Outlaws (Xbox) - Robust Stealth & Immaculate Vibes Make For A Super Star War
@Lup I know you didn’t ask me but I’ll answer anyway. Depends on the game and price. I have gone for gold here. Not ultimate as the extra money is two attires and there are plenty of attires in the game. I rarely buy games day one so if I do it means I really want them and then often I do like to see what I get extra. College football I went with thr MVP bundle mainly coz i got cheaper credit and then with it getting madden included in meant it was £55 a game which was a lot cheaper than it by itself. I wouldn’t have bought madden this year but went for it anyway.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About Ubisoft's Star Wars Outlaws
@Altaria_97 this. Some games you know you will enjoy universe and feeling…. If it’s a 7 and an open world Star Wars game for me that’s gonna be more like a 9.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About Ubisoft's Star Wars Outlaws
@Mustoe why not they do….. same as eurogamer. Most of us have our own score in built adjuster from years of reading reviews and learning certain bias from certain reviews and sites. I know with certain games I can take off or put on a few points depending on what the review says and who says it.
I’m surprised so many people read a review of a game they were. Excited for and say - 7 out of 10 shame I was looking forward to this. As if 7 is a bad score.
Re: Review: Star Wars Outlaws (Xbox) - Robust Stealth & Immaculate Vibes Make For A Super Star War
Kudos to the reviewer. Didn’t fall into the YouTube “have to hate this game” trap. Got why a lot of us love Star Wars and explained everything I wanted to know without spoilers. Excited for my copy to arrive. I appreciate you for this review.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About Ubisoft's Star Wars Outlaws
The comments on games make me laugh. “Doesn’t do much new” GOOD. I wanted an open world game that plays a bit like uncharted but in the Star Wars universe. Don’t reinvent the wheel. Sounds like I’ll have plenty of fun with this.
Re: Three Years Later, Quake Is Officially Getting A Physical Xbox Release
I’m sorry Quake and Xbox studios do not need to be using limited Run. Same as Star Wars games. Ridiculous. Small indies and one man band games are where Limited run has a place
Re: Talking Point: How Would You Feel If Xbox's Major Fall Release Is Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6?
I’ve not been excited by a CoD for years it’s not gonna change now/ for it to be Xbox’s only big title would be a disaster in gaming terms
Re: Next Month, It'll Be Four Years Since Xbox Acquired Bethesda
5 games in 4 years. What was their output in the 4 years before the take over?
Re: Halo Infinite's 'Massive' Forge Mode Update Adds Over 1,000 Jeff Steitzer Voice Lines
Massive super impressive update free on gamepass. 2 comments. On an Xbox site. Says it all really.
Re: Analyst Expects Xbox Game Pass To Bring In 'Almost $5.5bn' In 2025
@PsBoxSwitchOwner yeah I just got College football on ps5 as it worked out way cheaper with cheap credit on websites. I could get cheap Xbox credit too…. Just Sony was cheaper.
Re: Analyst Expects Xbox Game Pass To Bring In 'Almost $5.5bn' In 2025
Xbox are careful not to announce figures and definitely have never said how these people pay….. how many use rewards, how many use the many work rounds, how many pay full whack, I hope it does well but I don’t see these figures as right at all.
Re: College Football 25 Seemingly Leads To Huge Spike In Xbox Console Sales
Im absolutely loving it. Been 10 long years and my ps3 (coz its region free and im in the uk) and NCAA football 14 has been played constantly and regularly but finally it can take a break.
Just playing campus legend at the moment and it’s great. A few things missing that should be in but to have a college sports game again. I can see why it is shifting consoles.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
@Isca this is what I do. I’ve picked up the Xbox exclusives cheap physically. Even Forza Motorsport.
Gamepass is great. It’s just with steam deck ps5 Xbox X and switch I don’t need to pay £15+ a month.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
It was clearly more games and more acquisitions meant the service was expanding, this was going to being additional costs whatever they claimed. They said anything they could to get the deals pushed through without backlash as a business that’s what you do. It was obvious this was coming.
As with all sub services different people find differing values, COD will be a massive pull for some and well worth extra money and for other not.
Unfortunately the narrative and belief by many this wasn’t coming derailed a lot of discussion within the acquisition discussion, I was vocal in my opposition because I don’t play cod and didn’t want pay more for game pass as it wouldn’t offer me the extra value.
The morale of the story is allow discussion, sometimes accept the obvious and occasionally challenge brands even the ones you love.
I’m sure plenty will still pay this fee. This was always the plan.
Re: Xbox First-Party Title 'Pentiment' Seems To Run Much Better On PlayStation 5
People that get it “free” on a subscription service vs people that paid for the actual game.
I’ve said for years I’d rather pay for Xbox exclusives and be able to demand better rather than the current situation.
Re: Obsidian Blasted By Xbox Fans For 'Prioritising' PS5 & Switch Versions Of Pentiment
The Xbox only crew are a funny bunch. Nothing to see here at all.
Re: Xbox Petition For Helldivers 2 Goes Viral Overnight, Aims To 'Redefine The Console Wars'
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Re: Xbox Petition For Helldivers 2 Goes Viral Overnight, Aims To 'Redefine The Console Wars'
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Re: Xbox Supposedly 'Very Surprised' At The Extent Of The Latest Rumours
@Banjo- anyone that claims “when Sony doesn’t or Nintendo doesn’t” is too invested on one side. I don’t do “supporting one bit of plastic” or pretending one is victim to anything:…
They aren’t they all suffer backlashes and they all do crazy stuff.
I’m a consumer to all three and act like a consumer. When everyone starts acting like a consumer the gaming industry will a fair healthier place.
Re: Xbox Supposedly 'Very Surprised' At The Extent Of The Latest Rumours
Honestly on here this week I’ve seen more flip flops than on a beach.
Let’s wait and see what’s announced.
Don’t defend what you don’t know.
Don’t claim it’s not a big deal. Xbox don’t have public announcements for things that they don’t think are a big deal.
Don’t sell your Xbox when nothing has been announced and nothing will change what your plastic box could do yesterday, it will still do it tomorrow.
The extremes in society now are ridiculous.
I said in the week….. on MS can kill Xbox and they won’t do that.
If you don’t like the direction fine (I don’t like the acquisitions or game pass that much) I still love Xbox.
Do I want more and better from them, yes same as I do most businesses as a consumer why wouldn’t I want more for my money. They record huge huge profits.
Anyone actively asking for less or calling others “entitled” whilst not understand that word are plain silly.
We are all entitled to want more for our money.
Re: Forza Motorsport Update 6 Changing 'Car Progression' Next Month
Great stuff as that system made the game very unattractive for a lot of players. It might be too little too late as gaming moves so fast these days. 5,6,7 are all amazing games. Love everyone of them. The online requirement for this game and the Forza quick delisting issues means this game is just not that appealing and that’s a real shame, as I don’t want to commit hours and hours to a game that will be completely unplayable in a couple of years. The ticking timebomb of online only games is ridiculous and needs to be addressed. Let us play games when they go offline
Re: 'Xbox No Longer Making Consoles' Begins Trending As Panic Continues
Xbox announce a briefing to outline their future strategy and people still claim it’ll be nothing.
The mental gymnastics people doing on all sides of this is crazy, Xbox influencers abandoning the brand. Others saying it’s the death of Xbox.
Massive purchases and mergers have a cost.
I said from the start there would be no winners from the mergers.
It’s turning out to be true.
Level headed gamepass subscribers are gonna do ok from all the mergers.
As to new leaks about hardware it all seems like damage control. I hope Xbox are not planning new hardware for a long time yet.
Re: Xbox Fans Urged To Remain Calm As Emotions Run Wild On Social Media
Anyone claiming they know what Xbox will do are just as bad as those saying they will sell their Xboxes and as for again blaming “the Sony crew” it’s ridiculous.
The Xbox community, we need to look at ourselves and how we’ve responded and dealt with firstly the mergers and secondly these rumours before we start throwing rocks about.
Nothing Xbox announces will change what your Xbox can do, will not change the games it can play, worst case it’ll mean more money for more and deeper games.
Even if Gears ends up on ps5 so what it’s been out years and years…..
People need to chill and get some perspective
Re: Capcom Is Bringing An Action-Oriented Resident Evil Experience To Xbox Game Pass This Month
Whilst it’s a bit short and could be longer this is actually a very decent game. I liked it as much as RE2 but coz of length RE2 does beat it.
Re: Xbox Fans Urged To Remain Calm As Emotions Run Wild On Social Media
The toxic nature that some go about their fave bit of plastic and cables is ridiculous. The same people that are furious now are the same people mad at anyone that suggested the mergers might not be as good as they seemed.
All some wanted was more games on game pass. That’s fine. I understand but also there was always gonna be a cost.
I’m all for Xbox studios releasing on other platforms. They won’t release everything and with all the third party IPs they now own it makes sense.
Honestly I can’t really see why anyone would be upset or selling their console.
Pathetic.
Re: Starfield, Indiana Jones And Many Other 'Xbox Exclusives' Could Be Heading To PS5
Win win here.
When Activision joined Bethesda it was always possible this would happen.
Gamepass still gets amazing value.
Xbox will ring fence a nice selection to be Xbox only.
Xbox owners with Gamepass are happy.
Ps5 owners get more choice.
No one loses.
Surprised at a backlash about this
Re: Review: Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League - Rocksteady's Looter Shooter Is A Bit Of A Banger, Actually
This place has some really toxic members.
Multiple places have reviewed this game well. Many many people that actually played the test version…. Said it was good.
Everyone is ready to pile on.
It’s not that bad and is in fact a good game and people claim WB paid off the reviewer?!?
Not that a few angry YouTubers that are angry at this game are angry for clicks maybe? Like all the other half decent games that get buried.
And as for “8 is a half decent score” comments. No 8 out of ten is an excellent score. It’s a strange world where people think a 8 of ten is just decent.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From January 2024's State Of Play Event
Was average. Maybe slightly ahead of the last Xbox one. Both probably 6 out of 10. It’s gonna be a slow year for me.
Hoping for some shadow drops or unexpected 3rd party titles.
Re: Microsoft Cuts 1,900 Jobs Across Xbox, Bethesda And Activision Blizzard Teams
The state of the comments here. If this was Sony the same people would be saying VERY different things.
This is 1900 families that now have a real struggle at the worst of times
The company spent billions.
It’s a bad look. Those saying “this is expected” could you be more preprogrammed but the richest 5% the rich 5% have double their wealth in the last few years. Whilst the rest have shrunk their wealth.
This isn’t needed and the richest will still make record profits.
Stop validating this behaviour
Re: 'TopSpin 2K25' Is Happening, And It's Being Made By The 'Mafia' Studio
Massive demand for a good tennis game. This will sell loads.
But the Mafia tennis crossover…… the skill set to make and design those two games can’t be too similar? 😂
Re: Limited Run Gets Brutally Honest As Xbox Misses Out On Two New Ports
“Ill wait for it on gamepass”
It giveth and it taketh away
Re: Starfield Teases Its 'Biggest' Update Yet, Here's What You Can Expect
@trev666 that’s not how it works in a gamepass model. Games need to make players play them over a long period. Gone are the days they expect players to binge a game in a weekend and move on.
Re: Xbox Divides Opinion With Controversial Response To Baldur's Gate 3 Bans
Guys like this Twitter that’s quoted defending this are the worst thing about gaming. Large businesses are always terrible and make decisions that make no sense. It’s why we must call them out. Demand better and more. The constant apologists…. They have no excuse. They get no profits. They just defend defend defend blindly. Never defend a company blindly like you are on a “team” remember you are a customer and not a “fan” demand more and don’t be offended if others want more or better.
The Xbox community used to be my fave. Last few years more and more it’s become toxic. Luckily loads of people here and otherwise are still awesome.
Just don’t take criticism of a company personally. Don’t believe in console wars or culture wars.
If you don’t think it’s a big deal that’s fine but it might be to others.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Releasing Acclaimed First-Party Title On 'Competitor System' In 2024
@GrumpyDev I’m so glad this comment, the most sensible on this thread has the most likes.
If you read the comments on this site it often paints us Xbox owners as slightly unhinged.
It’s nice to see that it’s a vocal minority with their crazy “us” and “we” comments and the majority seem to lean towards sensible comments like yours
Re: Xbox Game Pass Dunks On PlayStation Over Dirt-Cheap Yakuza Deals
I really dislike tweets like that. Just flames the pretend “console war” for a lowest common dominator that loves that sort of nonsense.
Also as others have pointed out it’s not really a brag at 13.99 a month. If it was a £70 game it’s more of a brag
Re: Microsoft President Brad Smith Softens Stance On UK CMA After ActiBlizz Agreement
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Re: Xbox Sparks Fury Over Using AI-Generated Art To Promote Indie Games
I’m the first to say if something needs calling out.
This is not it.
What a nonsense.
Re: Feature: Pure Xbox's Game Of The Year 2023
@Dan1283 the best game should get it mate. Not a game just so you can say an exclusive of your fave bit of plastic justifies your purchase.
Re: Feature: Pure Xbox's Game Of The Year 2023
lol at the top ten.
Forza really?
Highfi so high?
And Starfield one?
Like that’s people just voting off the back of one word. In surprised Redfall isn’t there tbh.
Re: Random: 'Brink' Fan Says They'll Keep Buying Copies Until Xbox Makes A Sequel
The irony of a couple of posters above question this guy with the absolute hot takes they regurgitate over and over in these comments.
Pot kettle black.
Re: Friday The 13th Is About To Be Delisted Forever, And It's Only $5 On Xbox
@Yukairi thanks mate. Appreciate the answer.
Re: Lots Of Games Reduced By 90-95% In The Xbox Countdown Sale 2023
A couple of weeks ago I was moaning about Xbox sales. They’ve been so poor. This makes up for it I’ve spent a fortune. Cracking sale
Re: Friday The 13th Is About To Be Delisted Forever, And It's Only $5 On Xbox
Does this have any solo content at all?