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@AverageGamer you are missing the point. NES games are 40 years old and people still play them. There is no need for the solo player mode to vanish

Need to check which I have on disk and which digital as I’ll pick a few of these up if it’s the disk versions I have

@KillerBoy for sure. Doesn’t make it right. I won’t by the latest one even though it’s right up my street because it’ll vanish forever in a few years.

It’s just not cricket.

I know it’s a driving game not cricket.

@FraserG cheers mate. At least that’s something. That F1 kart game is actually half decent. I was 90% sure it was playable without internet connect but these days you never know.

Crew should be playable offline. Simple. Most people played it like an offline game. Are any others on the list becoming unplayable offline?

@theduckofdeath the more you play it you get used to it. But it’s not a “good feature” - can you turn off the level up alerts in race? I’d rather just know at the end?

Like most games these days you might be able to skip the grind stuff like the practise but it was a silly design choice. It’s like in Horizon 5 you can ignore the live stuff and Forzathon things but so much cool stuff is tied into it. I’m just not a fan of all that. Horizon 3 and MS 7 both got Forzathon right. They were fun and achievable

Unfortunately there are so many people that call any one that says stuff that’s annoying or they don’t like “outraged” - Forza MS was my hope for the Game of the Generation so far….. on the track it’s solid. F MS 7 was 10 out of 10 on track so it’s no surprise.

So many other decisions hold the game back. The forced practise stuff. The bizarre pick your own place on the grid for more rewards. The level each car up thing. It’s all a very grind heavy design.

I played it for a couple of hours and just didn’t feel engaged. I wondered if I was just not in the mood so I booted up Forza 7 and had a ball and way more fun straight away.

I’m a solo player only. I would imagine there is nothing to moan about on multiplayer (on Xbox) coz the game looks and plays great. It’s just some of the design/mode choices holding it back and for me not making me want to play it.

Gran Turismo had a terrible terrible solo player menu system thing. This is better but the grind is just too much and in several forms.

Often modern games think “grind” is the same as longevity but it’s really not. Fun is longevity.

I’m not “outraged”….. at all. I’ll dip in and out of it and hopefully they’ll tweak things. Just not the clear GOTY it should have been.

@PhileasFragg the only license it’s lost is pretty much the word “FIFA” all the clubs and players stadiums and kits will be present.

The also will have to call the World Cup the world trophy or something but again have licenses for all the national teams. People that buy fifa will still buy EA football.

Bring back EA Sports BIG….

@LoquaciousB people on here say I’m anti Xbox but they just don’t read my posts. I agree I think even up to £240 a year would be insane value tbh. Especially with the mergers and future game schedule. You just have to use it right and not be buying games on top. There is plenty on there. The main way to get the best value is to only own Xbox. That’s not a joke.

If you only own an Xbox and play it daily and love to try new games it’s crackers.

If you like niche games. It might not be the same.

I literally spent 200 hours plus on a game which will never come to gamepass where you only turn left. I’m not the proper target market

@LoquaciousB aye. I do the Pc stuff everyday at work but I just don’t game enough these days and I game on a few platforms so there just isn’t the hours in the day and I forget. The Pc stuff alone isn’t anywhere near enough to get it free

@BrilliantBill it’s a fair point about Ubisoft! But that was a crazy price!

@Kaloudz that’s cool then. I don’t think they’ll change rewards anyway. To get a completly free sub you have to put in some hours, it’s not like loads of people can be doing it.

@Kaloudz but you admit you don’t pay a penny for it.

So if they removed the ability to pay with reward points would you be so delighted?

I’m fine with the price rise by the way. It was always coming.

@Ooccoo_Jr No not at all. But I don’t use it properly. You have to embrace playing from the selection of games and not just play games you’d buy and you have to pretty much stop buying games and play games from this. I have no issue with that as a model but I play too many niche games that’ll never make it on GPU and also I play steam deck, switch and PlayStation. There isn’t enough hours in the day to sustain a sub model value.

That’s ok though. Doesn’t mean for others GPU isn’t good value. At £70/80 games you only need to enjoy three a year I guess.

No problem with the price increase. If you use it right it’s still incredible value. Was always going to happen with Bethesda and Activision deals.

Also GPU is going to start to deliver regular exclusives that was always gonna drive price up

As much as I don’t like GaaS elements you cannot knock the extras they’ve thrown in with this game. I will deffo be taking a look at the story addition
Also is the new dlc included in the ultimate edition?

@Zoidpilot4 shake my head. It’s sad that consoles have become something akin to a sports team.

I don’t try and bait anyone. I speak how I feel. Nothing I say is outrageous or offensive.

I am not a “defend Xbox” at all costs. I’m a “expect better from all three”

ninetendo, Sony and Xbox all do things that should drive any gamer crackers at times. It’s been extremely frowned upon to question anything Xbox and that’s both sad and ridiculous.

I don’t need or seek to change anyone’s mind. There are some great posters here who are balanced and sensible even if I don’t agree with them. There are also plenty of “Xbox only” crew that are mentally too invested.

I love my Xbox why would I sell it? And which Xbox? I own 6 different units from the different generations, and about 600 hundred physical games.

I could bore you for hours with my love of the OG Xbox and how strong “only on Xbox” games were. What a beast of a machine.

I’ve been vocally against both the Bethesda and Activision deals because I genuinely think even for Xbox only gamers it’s bad news. It will result in less games overal as three companies worth of games and IPs have to fit it one GPU calendar schedule - nothing in my argument is remotely controversial and it’s a fact.

Before the take overs you could have Halo, Doom and Call of duty all release in the same month. You’d be lucky to get 2 in a year now.

Also I’d rather pay for day one exclusives and get less elements of GaaS than currently we are seeing.

I don’t play online. I play solo.

Instead of being on the defence or seeing me as baiting - try actually reading my comments and you’ll find they aren’t negative. They are a valid point of view backed up with logic.

@theduckofdeath yes he is blameless and once again it’s everyone else. Poor Xbox. They are relentlessly picked on aren’t they.

It’s disgusting.

The fact so many on here can’t take any criticism of Xbox or him is sad.

I love my Xbox. It’s a great machine. But their PR and “Xbox defence league” is such a turn off.

Again my integrity on this thread has been questioned by others and I’ve been told to sell my Xbox

It’s very sad that by questioning the dubious Xbox studios output and to be against the Activision take over deal that I’m somehow not worthy to post here.

Sad reflection of other fragile state of mind.

When you are the main person for a large company you have to watch what you say. I dont think his words were misconstrued I think others have twisted them to sound better.

At the end of this year I think he could probably say it all again and it sound better, as I believe at that point Xbox will have whacked out 2 9/10 out of 10 games in starfield and Forza. Then you can say, even 10 out of ten games won’t sell consoles if you believe it.

I don’t believe it, I think starfield and Forza will be awesome and sell units. If you are putting games out like that 4 times a year….. the gap closes for real.

So what he said however you spin it or whatever you think he means is wrong.

It’s been a long gap since Forza H5 which was a cracking game too.

Nowt wrong with demanding more, especially when you pay subscription.

I suspect on reading this I will discover you have reading comprehension skills as many on here just want to be offended by anyone that thinks Xbox can and should do a little better with their output.

Hit reverse hit reverse.

I was only meant to say that behind closed doors.

I find it hard to believe from the words he actually said anyone misconstrued his words at all. He was very clear.

Not another dreaded Xbox JPEG. Not more “exciting times ahead” I look forward to actual exiting times.

The amount of legal experts in this field that are regulars on Pure Xbox is amazing. We are very lucky to get their insight for free.

Well that’s a terrible decision for a game series that gets delisted incredibly quick.

Also goodbye to playing on steam deck.

Love playing 4/5 on steam deck.

Always logged on to play a solo player mode. Ugh.

It’s so not necessary!

@IronMan30 exactly all the “you don’t understand what in game engine means” no we do and that’s the issue.

It’s still not gameplay and all showcase we saw very little of what games might actually play like. That’s an issue.

@Banjo- I know it’s not time yet. It will be. 3 only went last year didn’t it? Although the last few years are a blur for me it might have been longer. Motorsport 7 has gone? Or is it still up? I’m still sore I never got to play Forza H1 rally expansion. I have everything else Forza.

I notice a lot of the folk saying “not a problem” and saying here comes the faux backlash - didn’t leap to the defence of Gotham Knights. Which was a very decent game that suffered horrendous press due to 30fps. I guess to get the online defence league you need to be Xbox studios these days.

On the FPS - won’t make any difference to me. As long as it plays well

In all fairness Forza will leave the service. Forza unfortunately still get delisted. Usually though they gift the game to anyone that owns it.

I kinda hope they sort it out so Forzas don’t disappear so quick.

Xbox know how to do a showcase and trailer we know this. They are the best in the business by far.

So I strip away the gloss and cinematics and think about gameplay shown and stuff we didn’t already know….

It’s a C.

Hype A+ and hype isn’t a bad thing.

@Darylb88 I don’t bother engaging with him. He is a classic troll and over the top “Xbox only”

“Gaming nerds respond angrily to rap music in game advert”

Fixed headline.

Once again “gamers” seem to react badly to something based on something other than gameplay. By that I mean race. Also very funny how suddenly everyone is a historian

Forza is a big enough game for me I’m happy at whatever else is announced this year.

I have no interest in seeing games that are years away so the promise of all coming very soon games is good.

Why does Uk never get the movies…..

LOTR is one of the easiest and most video game friendly franchises. How many games could be LOTOR but don’t have the license. Set in a similar generic universe.

We get the odd good one and then awful ones. Ps3 had a decent run of good ones.

Another limited edition console and controller.

Xbox is winning the war of limited edition consoles for sure.

@Altaria_97 agree with this.

3, 1, 5, 2, 4 for me. But they are very close like so close. In all reality 5 is a better game than 1 but 1 is still so so good I put it slightly a head. 2 gets bonus points the extra Fast and Furious game.

Forza Horizon and Motorsport are easily the best games by miles under the Xbox umbrella. They are up there with the best games full stop. Getting other studios involved makes sense.

lol at more jpegs of up coming games…..

“50 games coming” all filler no killer….

Even the killers have turned out to be filler….

Some awesome custom controllers though….

I hope it’s a great showcase and I hope we get some big solo player games. I hope we don’t have desperate looking JPEG’s putting a spin on it after and everyone is genuinely hyped. That would be nice. The faux hype by some is exhausting

I wasn’t sure I loved this when I first saw it but I do

@Zoidpilot4 says a guy that will defend anything Xbox do.

@FatalBubbles this for sure and also most people just don’t understand the principle of why we have laws and protections.

@LoquaciousB do you have kids and how old are they?

Do you think we should have any laws and protections?

Seatbelts?
Drinking age?

Surely parents can make sure kids don’t drink until they should?

Everyone should want to wear a seat belt so why have a law?

Protections exist for a reason.
Don’t wish away protections

Disgusting from the FTC. Xbox should pull all their products from the corrupt USA….
Xbox did nothing wrong. They never can do wrong.

Same as Sony and Nintendo recent ones I’ll read about it after. They’ve all been terrible last few years. Games coming in 4 years honest. Then the most hyped arrive and aren’t quite worth 4 years of hype.

They’ll never learn.

I’m not excepting anything massive. It’ll be nice to see some Forza. That will be a 9/10 with ease.

5 seasons of what?!?!? It’s a WRC game it should have all the WRC content included?!?

Is it gonna have other content? Just 5 seasons of classic content seems excessive. I’m not a fan of all this season nonsense

Roster size and list now please…..

God comments like this are such a turn off.

Yeah skip the U.K.

Pull your operations from the U.K.

Double dare you…..

(Now read all the comments here and wow. Time to a take a break from here until this is all over)

Confirms roster will be at least 50. I’d guess that it’ll be very close to that number from what they said before.

Five is better than Four imho. The map is way better for me. I do miss some of the cool weather 4 had mind you, I still play all the horizons. 5 currently has me hooked. Currently playing from start again on steam deck but I avoid all of the game as a service playlist nonsense. Just enjoy the racing and cars. Not the FOMO of timed challenges. Shame so much content is locked in those modes that will vanish forever relatively quickly.

Responding to comments here - You can’t have a subscription model based on day one exclusives and not have exclusives. They should have a more robust pipe line of titles. A showcase should have plenty to discuss for the Next 12 months of releases. It’s a strange spin to say Xbox are doing this because of delays. He is saying - the showcase will feature games not planned for release in the next 12 months. Which would suggest sparse offerings already before delays.

They should be having 4/5 big releases planned in next 12 months. More than enough for a good showcase.