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As much as I don’t like GaaS elements you cannot knock the extras they’ve thrown in with this game. I will deffo be taking a look at the story addition
Also is the new dlc included in the ultimate edition?

@Zoidpilot4 shake my head. It’s sad that consoles have become something akin to a sports team.

I don’t try and bait anyone. I speak how I feel. Nothing I say is outrageous or offensive.

I am not a “defend Xbox” at all costs. I’m a “expect better from all three”

ninetendo, Sony and Xbox all do things that should drive any gamer crackers at times. It’s been extremely frowned upon to question anything Xbox and that’s both sad and ridiculous.

I don’t need or seek to change anyone’s mind. There are some great posters here who are balanced and sensible even if I don’t agree with them. There are also plenty of “Xbox only” crew that are mentally too invested.

I love my Xbox why would I sell it? And which Xbox? I own 6 different units from the different generations, and about 600 hundred physical games.

I could bore you for hours with my love of the OG Xbox and how strong “only on Xbox” games were. What a beast of a machine.

I’ve been vocally against both the Bethesda and Activision deals because I genuinely think even for Xbox only gamers it’s bad news. It will result in less games overal as three companies worth of games and IPs have to fit it one GPU calendar schedule - nothing in my argument is remotely controversial and it’s a fact.

Before the take overs you could have Halo, Doom and Call of duty all release in the same month. You’d be lucky to get 2 in a year now.

Also I’d rather pay for day one exclusives and get less elements of GaaS than currently we are seeing.

I don’t play online. I play solo.

Instead of being on the defence or seeing me as baiting - try actually reading my comments and you’ll find they aren’t negative. They are a valid point of view backed up with logic.

@theduckofdeath yes he is blameless and once again it’s everyone else. Poor Xbox. They are relentlessly picked on aren’t they.

It’s disgusting.

The fact so many on here can’t take any criticism of Xbox or him is sad.

I love my Xbox. It’s a great machine. But their PR and “Xbox defence league” is such a turn off.

Again my integrity on this thread has been questioned by others and I’ve been told to sell my Xbox

It’s very sad that by questioning the dubious Xbox studios output and to be against the Activision take over deal that I’m somehow not worthy to post here.

Sad reflection of other fragile state of mind.

When you are the main person for a large company you have to watch what you say. I dont think his words were misconstrued I think others have twisted them to sound better.

At the end of this year I think he could probably say it all again and it sound better, as I believe at that point Xbox will have whacked out 2 9/10 out of 10 games in starfield and Forza. Then you can say, even 10 out of ten games won’t sell consoles if you believe it.

I don’t believe it, I think starfield and Forza will be awesome and sell units. If you are putting games out like that 4 times a year….. the gap closes for real.

So what he said however you spin it or whatever you think he means is wrong.

It’s been a long gap since Forza H5 which was a cracking game too.

Nowt wrong with demanding more, especially when you pay subscription.

I suspect on reading this I will discover you have reading comprehension skills as many on here just want to be offended by anyone that thinks Xbox can and should do a little better with their output.

Hit reverse hit reverse.

I was only meant to say that behind closed doors.

I find it hard to believe from the words he actually said anyone misconstrued his words at all. He was very clear.

Not another dreaded Xbox JPEG. Not more “exciting times ahead” I look forward to actual exiting times.

The amount of legal experts in this field that are regulars on Pure Xbox is amazing. We are very lucky to get their insight for free.

Well that’s a terrible decision for a game series that gets delisted incredibly quick.

Also goodbye to playing on steam deck.

Love playing 4/5 on steam deck.

Always logged on to play a solo player mode. Ugh.

It’s so not necessary!

@IronMan30 exactly all the “you don’t understand what in game engine means” no we do and that’s the issue.

It’s still not gameplay and all showcase we saw very little of what games might actually play like. That’s an issue.

@Banjo- I know it’s not time yet. It will be. 3 only went last year didn’t it? Although the last few years are a blur for me it might have been longer. Motorsport 7 has gone? Or is it still up? I’m still sore I never got to play Forza H1 rally expansion. I have everything else Forza.

I notice a lot of the folk saying “not a problem” and saying here comes the faux backlash - didn’t leap to the defence of Gotham Knights. Which was a very decent game that suffered horrendous press due to 30fps. I guess to get the online defence league you need to be Xbox studios these days.

On the FPS - won’t make any difference to me. As long as it plays well

In all fairness Forza will leave the service. Forza unfortunately still get delisted. Usually though they gift the game to anyone that owns it.

I kinda hope they sort it out so Forzas don’t disappear so quick.

Xbox know how to do a showcase and trailer we know this. They are the best in the business by far.

So I strip away the gloss and cinematics and think about gameplay shown and stuff we didn’t already know….

It’s a C.

Hype A+ and hype isn’t a bad thing.

@Darylb88 I don’t bother engaging with him. He is a classic troll and over the top “Xbox only”

“Gaming nerds respond angrily to rap music in game advert”

Fixed headline.

Once again “gamers” seem to react badly to something based on something other than gameplay. By that I mean race. Also very funny how suddenly everyone is a historian

Forza is a big enough game for me I’m happy at whatever else is announced this year.

I have no interest in seeing games that are years away so the promise of all coming very soon games is good.

Why does Uk never get the movies…..

LOTR is one of the easiest and most video game friendly franchises. How many games could be LOTOR but don’t have the license. Set in a similar generic universe.

We get the odd good one and then awful ones. Ps3 had a decent run of good ones.

Another limited edition console and controller.

Xbox is winning the war of limited edition consoles for sure.

@Altaria_97 agree with this.

3, 1, 5, 2, 4 for me. But they are very close like so close. In all reality 5 is a better game than 1 but 1 is still so so good I put it slightly a head. 2 gets bonus points the extra Fast and Furious game.

Forza Horizon and Motorsport are easily the best games by miles under the Xbox umbrella. They are up there with the best games full stop. Getting other studios involved makes sense.

lol at more jpegs of up coming games…..

“50 games coming” all filler no killer….

Even the killers have turned out to be filler….

Some awesome custom controllers though….

I hope it’s a great showcase and I hope we get some big solo player games. I hope we don’t have desperate looking JPEG’s putting a spin on it after and everyone is genuinely hyped. That would be nice. The faux hype by some is exhausting

I wasn’t sure I loved this when I first saw it but I do

@Zoidpilot4 says a guy that will defend anything Xbox do.

@FatalBubbles this for sure and also most people just don’t understand the principle of why we have laws and protections.

@LoquaciousB do you have kids and how old are they?

Do you think we should have any laws and protections?

Seatbelts?
Drinking age?

Surely parents can make sure kids don’t drink until they should?

Everyone should want to wear a seat belt so why have a law?

Protections exist for a reason.
Don’t wish away protections

Disgusting from the FTC. Xbox should pull all their products from the corrupt USA….
Xbox did nothing wrong. They never can do wrong.

Same as Sony and Nintendo recent ones I’ll read about it after. They’ve all been terrible last few years. Games coming in 4 years honest. Then the most hyped arrive and aren’t quite worth 4 years of hype.

They’ll never learn.

I’m not excepting anything massive. It’ll be nice to see some Forza. That will be a 9/10 with ease.

5 seasons of what?!?!? It’s a WRC game it should have all the WRC content included?!?

Is it gonna have other content? Just 5 seasons of classic content seems excessive. I’m not a fan of all this season nonsense

Roster size and list now please…..

God comments like this are such a turn off.

Yeah skip the U.K.

Pull your operations from the U.K.

Double dare you…..

(Now read all the comments here and wow. Time to a take a break from here until this is all over)

Confirms roster will be at least 50. I’d guess that it’ll be very close to that number from what they said before.

Five is better than Four imho. The map is way better for me. I do miss some of the cool weather 4 had mind you, I still play all the horizons. 5 currently has me hooked. Currently playing from start again on steam deck but I avoid all of the game as a service playlist nonsense. Just enjoy the racing and cars. Not the FOMO of timed challenges. Shame so much content is locked in those modes that will vanish forever relatively quickly.

Responding to comments here - You can’t have a subscription model based on day one exclusives and not have exclusives. They should have a more robust pipe line of titles. A showcase should have plenty to discuss for the Next 12 months of releases. It’s a strange spin to say Xbox are doing this because of delays. He is saying - the showcase will feature games not planned for release in the next 12 months. Which would suggest sparse offerings already before delays.

They should be having 4/5 big releases planned in next 12 months. More than enough for a good showcase.

Doesn’t bode well for the planned releases for the next 12 months. It seems like we’ve been teased with games that will come for years and years. We need games to start to come. The hype for Redfall now looks ridiculous. They’d be better on just delivering at this point not teasing a game 4 years away.

“No loss” is not an intelligent or sensible response. People paid for this game and it’s being removed less than a year after release. This is outrageous.

The apathy from the gaming industry to stand up against rubbish like this is mind blowing.

@lacerz it’s hilarious people still claim there is a boycott. It’s the uneducated not understanding a complex issue. Which is a shame. Coz many of them need educating.

Either way it’s a good game and been an interesting spectator sport watching the faux anger at the game.

Ubisoft have massive sales and their games don’t hold their price physically either.

So it’s a never from me. Even their big games day one is no pull….. the cost is ridiculous.

Two people have said they will pay in this entire thread and both for the new AC game. Just buy it. Honestly.

@WallyWest for many their console choice is like supporting a football team…. You do it blindly and hate anyone that doesn’t agree with everything they do and say.

Where as much like politics - you shouldn’t blindly support any single company blindly and should act like a customer and not a “fan”, you should not support a political party you should support the one making the best policies at the time.

Lol. Very reliable sources said the CMA would approve it too. As reported here. People aren’t learning. Best wait for the actual result eh.

Don’t hang out any bunting just yet.

@Kevw2006 fair dues. Still having involved is for me personally a bad look. This guy has no morales and has represented some horrible people. I know people will say…. That’s lawyers and maybe they are right. Just not a fan of “Pannick on the streets of London”

EA are only number one because COD sells better elsewhere. COD numbers will be bonkers on Xbox if the deal goes through. Although with the gamepass and them technically being Xbox studios do they count? So probably EA are right. EA will be happy as less 3 party big publishers the bigger a partner they are. It’s less competition for them I guess.

Pannick is not a nice guy.
He has a very dubious track record.

The second dodgy one Xbox have employed in the fallout.

I’m not a fan. These are loop hole specialists. No one should be a fan of exploiting loop holes.

@eduscxbox that isn’t true. The Xbox community is the most forgivable community and fiercely loyal in any commercial arena. They can do no wrong. It’s part of how we are where we are. People lap it up no matter what this guy says and no matter what they do.

I hope all his PR and bluster finally comes true. This is a big month and it’ll either be mind blowing or more of the same…..

Let’s hope it’s a blockbuster, the showcase will set the tone.

He keeps telling us big things are coming. Redfall wasn’t it. Let’s hope it’s just a blip.

@Dezzy70 nail on head mate. They should pause everything and just focus on GOOD games. Nothing will lead to success more than good games.

You can make money with average games that have addictive and cash grab mechanics….. but it won’t work if you are a console seller. Everyone is chasing fortnite model. Average game that’s addictive.

I really really dislike this guy.

He is all spin and setting the agenda.

It’s nonsense to suggest microsoft can’t compete. Stop playing the underdog. You are Goliath. Not David.

This we can’t compete if we make good games. Give me strength.

They need to sack this guy. You make good games, and make them often and you’ll compete. Fact. People want the best games. They want a console that gives them the best games. The reason the bought Bethesda and Activision is for good popular games. To try and catch up and make money.

I think the issue is Microsoft just want to make money and don’t care how they do it. So they are trying to do it with a strategy that doesn’t include making good games. It includes making games.

It’s so strange.

They don’t make bad games I’m not saying that. They make ok/good games. But that isn’t their main strategy and that’s so weird.

A lot of pressure on this release as many of us are awaiting for the gold at the end of a long long rainbow.

The game may have bugs and issues (it does) but the main problem is it’s not a very good game. Patches aren’t gonna fix that.

Xbox have told me “it’s the day I’ve been waiting for”for the last two years, hyping every showcase and the hype for Redfall was huge….

I’m still waiting. They need to start delivering and then the hype means something. The good will they’d built will only last so long