@awp69 I said “we all value it differently and that’s cool” so whats your point? My point is allow others to have an opinion and not shoot them down. I didn’t shoot down anyone that finds value in it. That’s awesome. My comment was balanced. You need to reread it and not stop as soon as you perceive something was negative. Don’t worry you weren’t the only Xbox defence league member to jump on it and you won’t be the last

@Acurisur again, not at all. Did you actually read the comments. You got it “free” so obviously you think it’s amazing value. Rightly so.

I’d rather pay for exclusives and get more of them.

Nothing in any of my comments has been dramatic.

It’s been balanced and well reasoned.

The Xbox defence league doesn’t care to read though does it. We must at all times praise everything Xbox does.

I love Xbox. I want more exclusives with longer single player campaigns and more single player focus.

If you don’t that’s cool. I’m not mad at you.

Or any of the other people that can’t read.

@fbnaulin what are you talking about? Market?!?

I said “Different people paid for GPU for different reasons and depending on your reasons the value has dipped massively.”

Lots of people sub to GPU for the USP of all the Xbox exclusives day one. We just had a plus with no first party AAA exclusives….. that would indicate that, If you were primarily signed up to enjoy Xbox studios day one exclusives I’d say over 12 months without one is a pretty large dip no?

Why do some of you find it difficult to read and believe that not everyone blindly hands over money for the same reasons as you.

Nothing I’ve said is over blown or unreasonable.

Last year so much PR about how good Xbox was doing - GPU was generating so much money and everyone was celebrating. Money to throw around. What happened?!?!?!?

Maybe the PR was spin?

It seems confusing to me. Added on the money they are splashing on studios and companies… and a year without exclusives. Something is going wrong.

I’m not sure laying off worker bees is the solution mind you.

Sounds like those making “the hard decisions” need to look at themselves and their own positions.

@awp69 can you read? I said we all value it differently. I didn’t attack anyone for finding value in it. My post was quite clear but as usual people like you take offence and offer a defence as to why it’s amazing.

I’m glad you love it. You loving it will keep Xbox strong. If everyone felt like me Xbox would be in trouble. They don’t. That’s good.

I’d prefer to pay for exclusives and get more of them… and longer solo campaigns and focus when they drop.

The other games…. I like niche games and have a back log that’s ridiculous between steam deck, xbsx, ps5 and switch plus older gens and evercade…. So I’m less fussed about random titles. That’s just me.

Hopefully this year will be a turning point for exclusives and content from xbox studios. Xbox OG first gen was mind blowing for “only on xbox”

Makes me laugh people get so defensive of the service like they own shares in it or work for Xbox.

People are allowed to question value. Different people paid for GPU for different reasons and depending on your reasons the value has dipped massively.

People heavily invested in the brand will always find value. To justify the spend…

We all game in different ways. We all pay a different amount for GPU. We will all value it differently.

I love my Xbox SX. I’m a fan of Xbox. I don’t particularly love GPU.

I just wanted a decent solo player campaign. That’s the heart of halo. Xbox studios are all about service games because they want people hooked on subbing.
It was too short this campaign. Undelivered and didn’t have co-op. Wasn’t the devs fault. More casualties of MS complete mismanagement

Too many Xbox shareholders on these pages and not enough gamers.

More delays for Xbox studios. More people saying it’s good news.

Justifying it with twaddle about release windows and corporate jargon.

When Bethesda was purchased my major complaint was that their releases would have to fit in a schedule with Xbox other studios. I was scoffed at. I also said it would lead to leads combined games.

Exclusive are still not hitting us at record pace are they.

LOL. Is xbox trolling it’s own gatekeepers. Love it.

I find it all a bit embarrassing. They say one thing when they are getting you to buy a console and another when trying to push a deal through.

Just make some games with the 4000 studios you already own.

Bethesda have hardly been churning out announcements on new games since they were bought.

How about a new doom? Quake? Wolfenstien? Fallout? No? You need to buy another company to not announce any new games.

Halo, Forza, GOW and COD that’s what you’re saying right?

Exclusives “free” on GPU was always gonna affect quality and quantity and it’s turned out to be true.

I’m not saying GPU isn’t a good service I’m talking purely exclusives. We all want exclusives surely?

I already “owned” everything but Forza 5 (I had all the DLC) as I had GPU. I still paid the 69p to have Forza 5 - was clearly a price error but still not great from a company that everyone tells me has so much money they can do what they want.

Where are the exclusives this year then?

This has been a very very poor year for Xbox and this continues that trend.

On the plus side. Next year has to be better? They can’t release minus 1 exclusives.

In my opinion, whilst this is one of the best World Cup versions of a football game. The depth and number of tournaments in a normal version is incomparable. The World Cup version had bare bones for replayability but was deeper and better than the free updates we now get.

A World Cup game with Historic world cups to play. With proper squads and stadiums would be something. You can play through qualifying and then World Cup 1990 and then jump to 2002… jump back to Brazil 1970…. Now that would be a game!

With nba 2k style filters.

@BBB SWOS the final version is the best footballing game ever and it’s not even close.

@Kaloudz I meant the articles. We expect a Xbox slant to the Xbox in articles and reporting here. Not the comments but to be fair you get people that are blinkered to proxbox over anything in comments and that’s understandable. You own one console and it’s an Xbox it makes sense. I’m not mad at that at all.

I’m not a fan of console wars at all. I own all three top models and steam deck.

But I understand why you have people that are fans of one only and I am fine with it. I think too much of the gaming media is too pro one or the other and often lacks balance. Which is a shame.

The usual snowflakes melting over a throw away comment from someone not related to process.

However IGN editor deeply unprofessional and showing bias by waging in. Will in the future be weary of anything IGN say and do. IGN should really stay neutral and certainly not be encouraging less third party titles. Deeply concerning but unsurprising from the gaming “media” which in recent years have become a bias paid “influencer” style sham of what it was. Fortunately we have to protect the good ones. No shade at anyone at Pure Xbox - it’s called pure Xbox. You be as bias as you like it’s why we are here.

One comment on this article on a Xbox exclusive website says it all.

Last big Xbox studios exclusive we were given on GPU too. Seems like a long long time ago.

lol at the anger here.

I can’t imagine having this amount of loyalty anger and passion against one plastic box vs another plastic box.

Even with people saying it wouldn’t work. I really hope they go back and patch VII so we can play it 3rd person. The way all RE should be

@Sol4ris I agree. My comment was a response more to the constant narrative that anyone that opposes the deal is a Sony fanboy and the deal can only be a good thing. Which is such a biased. “I want more “free” games on GPU” we all do.

Sony should challenge it just like Xbox would. I’m not emotionally invested in either massive corp. i own both. I want more independent thriving publishers and studios not less.

I don’t want all these masssive IPs fitting in under one corporation calendar budget and release schedule.

@StylesT what?!? So you are one then. You’ve literally said it’s ok to be biased because you get benefits. I have a GPU and I think it’s an awful idea. But I’m not selfish.

@BRT15 aye, someone in this very thread claims “Boris is the sanest of them all”

We need to not allow these people to decide anything.

It’s like people don’t actually understand what has happened or what is happening and why….

@Sol4ris EA would be way more contentious to causal fan boys you lot CONSTANTLY moan about.

@StylesT just to let you know some complete no lifer Xbox fans are gonna beg for the deal to be approved.

Excellent news. As we know from Xbox Pr team.

Who we know are always right. Exclusives are good for everyone.

Agree with the above 3 is the best in the series. The last two have been far too reliant on live service and online elements. 3 was a beast without needing that.

I welcome all this content.

As other say it’s such a shame some in locked in silly timed nonsense

@Kaloudz lol - I’ve got community fibre. Lol. Internet provider I’ve never heard of

@Titntin exactly. I think many are so blind to how the market actually works they say stuff like “everyone I talk to is happy with the deal” haha. Could they live any more in a bubble?

Nintendo is Nintendo and they do what they do. They’ve proved before if they think someone treads on their toes their legal team is lethal. Ditto MS. Sony is just doing what the others would do. Imagine the posts on here it COD was being bought by Sony.

I own all three consoles and subscribe to all three at top tier. I don’t think this is a particularly good deal for the industry but I’ll take all the games on GPU.

@pip_muzz @Kaloudz I don’t have that advert. I have something different. Is it targeted adverts? What have you two been Googling?!?

Lmao

I have my doubts this game will ever be released. Been following for years. It’s roster is almost unbelievable. They’ve a better roster than EA ever managed. I hope it sees the light of day but I have my doubts.

I got the 1tb at £150 ages ago and pleased I did

@Daniel1221 I’d love that. I missed the Rally DLC for one but like you have “finished”multiple Forza games. It’s a great series

lol the comments section again. What a mess.

Hats off to the few posters that try to bring some balance and proper discussion.

Another thread that descends into Sony bashing. Cmon folks you can do better.
This is a complex deal for all gamers and has pros and cons. It’s absolutely right it should be scrutinised.

@Clankylad lol? Where are you from and why do you say that?

@Chaudy the must have some power or say in it or they wouldn’t investigate it.

@Dezzy70 surely that comment could be made to Xbox - COD isn’t their game. Couldn’t they go away and make their own games? I agree Sony should. COD should stay 3rd party though.

@pspooky I get what you are saying but the n64 controller and unique controls are what made goldeneye stand out. It certainly won’t have same magic if you strip that away. The trigger and controller were a big part of goldeneyes success

Fan boy nonsense is engulfing this site. It’s getting very boring. You can be a “big” fan of one console (although it’s highly unnecessary) and not defend everything to do with that console like a major share holder. Others are allowed to be disappointed with multiple aspects of your favourite console without you needing to feel like it’s a personal attack.

People really sometimes don’t understand why a game is special or works. People saying “only four players is rubbish needs to be more” has clearly never played it. You could not flood those maps and have fun. It’s designed for four. It’s designed for a n64 controller and both combined made it special

Like others have said have no problem paying $70
For a game especially from Ubisoft because they never see a steep drop in price months after release.

Take my money.

I, like many her, love paying more stuff.

Please charge me more big corporations. Please.

Don’t do it. Those of us that stupidly bought into the switch releases regret it. Honestly don’t get involved with LRG. Especially now a lot of the switch releases have got full releases. Don’t pay them extra for fake scarcity.

What is the solo player like on this?

To be fair this game has a massive amount of Content and modes. I’d go far as to say it might be the biggest leap a yearly sports game has ever made?

I didn’t think they could do anything to get me to buy it day one. Not after picking it up for a fiver within a year for the last few years…. But the revamped Jordan mode and the crazy Era mode makes this a monster for NBA fans.

I’d love an era mode in FIFA or Madden.

Pay for GPU get live service games. It’s why I don’t like the model. They aren’t interested in games you can complete. They want games people feel like they have to play and play and play. Everyone is chasing that fortnite addiction.

It’s a real shame

With all the moves Xbox has made the exclusives war will continue. I don’t get mad when Xbox do it so I can’t get mad when Sony do they same. I own both consoles for this reason.

I’ve ordered on ps5 anyway. Mainly coz my Mrs will play it.

Both Grid and Grid legends are both very decent games that were ignored for whatever reason. I’ve had a load of fun especially with legends. I’ve not done the story mode yet but the career is loads of fun.

Xbox fans on day of purchase “this is massive massive. Call of duty is THE biggest franchise, spyro, crash and massive names in gaming”

The deal gets questioned:

“These games aren’t anything special”

Lmao.

Have
A
Day
Off.

Of course this is as crazy deal. Same as Bethesda was.

I love Xbox but no other company has bought two monsters of this size.

EA buying codemasters is the closest.

@Tasuki there is artwork for switch and it’s quoted as same leak as this stuff so I assume legit

Day one. I’ll get on switch and flick a coin between XSX and PS5.

Can’t wait for this

Casual gamers that buy COD and only cod don’t care about GPU. That’s not the issue here. It’s the cut of the COD pie. Plenty of people buy cod and fifa and that’s it - maybe gta - look at the sales numbers. These people are gonna pay £100 plus a year to have GPU. They are gonna get COD at Tescos/Asda when shopping. Sales figures are crazy for COD.

I’d imagine the in game purchases are meaty too. Sony get a cut of that. They don’t want 25% even of the cod players going from them to Xbox. This is just common sense

It’s not the same and even close. More PR and spin. As someone else has rightly said….. subscription model killed blockbuster and GPU is subscription model.

Blockbuster had old movies new movies and you could pick what you wanted. It wasn’t heavily curated and movies wouldn’t suddenly vanish.

GPU is more like that dodgy little video rental section at the local corner shop…. The big new movies aren’t there day one and you end up with something just coz your there and it’s better than nothing.