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@Chaudy 100% and the replies arguing against this prove your point. Unfortunately we are going to see more and more exclusives not less.

Cool story. As we’ve read here many times the Descenders dev did a very very good deal and they are certainly most vocal of how good it is. Like others have said. Right now MS is happy to throw money it at. When they decide to balance the books, close the 99p upgrade and make some money from GPU I think the whole argument changes…. But it’s good and healthy right now. Long term I’m not sold it will be good. I see so many online saying they don’t buy games as they might be on GPU next month. I don’t see how that’s good long term.

At least it’s a proper release at Amazon. Although I’d rather not give LRG anymore money however it’s distributed.

Bunch of charlatans.

Hmmmmm. I’d have liked a New York setting or a vegas setting and larger open world than 1. Combining the best parts of the first three but with more of a 1 setting but larger scale. Steal elements from the Godfather game.

There was nothing wrong with 3 very good game just not classic Mafia setting for me.

Or EA could just give us a remake/remix of Godfather game with some new elements.

Or that Scarface 2 game that got cancelled

Or all three would be nice!

@Bleachedsmiles I agree with 90% of that. I do think being part of a community and defending everything all of the time and feeling personally attacked if anyone says anything negative is ridiculous. Sports fans are usually the opposite. The most vocal in criticism of their own team and by nature a sport is all about being competitive. The games take place.

Being a consumer of music, film or game is different. You don’t have fans of Warner Bros music arguing that Sony music havent put any good CDs out in ages… or fans of Paramount movies saying Movie from 20th century fox suck.

It’s a media created war that started 30 plus years ago that the console companies loved because it sold units. People have just been brainwashed into thinking it’s a good thing to act as gatekeepers for their chosen brand.

For me I treat games like I treat other media. I’ll buy and play what I like and ignore what I don’t.

It’s why we have moved to a sub service on Xbox side I’m far more critical of Xbox than the other two. They don’t release they don’t get my money. Xbox have and are taking my money for a service and I expect a constant stream of games I like to justify it and right now and for the last two years plus on average they haven’t delivered. The back end of last year excluded.

It’s fine for others that love GPU and the older games and smaller games that get added and I have dipped in and out of those. But I already had a large collection of Xb1 and 360 games.

I’m not livid or angry. Just think that with all these studios and investment if it was managed correctly we should be seeing far more regular games and updates. Tbh the target of 1 and quarter IMHO is too little. I’d wager at least 1 of those won’t be for me. So that’s max 3 games a year - for £120 - about the price you’d pay for boxed versions. Yes their is value added from other games but for me a console and its services live and die on exclusives- 3rd party stuff I can get on a single console that gives me the best exclusives if need be. - I kid myself here as I will always buy both consoles - I’m luckily enough to be able to afford that.

In before a fanboy claims this is a storm in a tea cup.

EDIT - oh too late.

Why do some people dismiss anything but positive stories. Grow up. The Xbox has some issues. Is doesn’t damage you or your experience and some people like to know things like this. It also leads to fixes. Burying your head in the sand doesn’t make issues for away. Xbox is brilliant at responding and fixing things so as a community we must still raise these things and make gaming experiences better

When will people learn owning a game console is not the same as supporting a sports team. Some people are too easily triggered and want to constantly make everything a console war. It’s old and dull.

As a GPU subscriber I am obviously an Xbox fan and I’m invested in them. I’m disappointed how the studios are run. Xbox now own a lot of studios and nothing is slated this year. Last year was hearlded as a bumper year…. I didn’t see it that way. Halo was an 8 hour campaign and no Co-op. Flight sim isn’t for me. Pyschonaughts isn’t a AAA+ game but was very good and Forza H was a monster and brilliant. It was a decent year… just hoped this year would build on it.

Some at Xbox isn’t doing a good job of managing output. Maybe this showcase we will get 2/3 games this year - we can’t praise the quality and standard of GPU and the exclusives and then say - 2022 has no releases.

I’d hammer nintendo and Sony just the same but if Ninty or Sony delay games they don’t get my money until they release.

Netflix couldn’t go a year with none of their own content and just content from other studios that have been mostly released for a while.

These are facts of a sub model. I get some of you love Xbox but even the most ardent Xbox only must see Xbox exclusives need to be dropping regularly on GPU.

Why does every news article have to descend into “yeah but Sony delayed this or Sony delayed that”…. It’s irrelevant and Sony charge per game so if they delay you delay paying. The Xbox model is now subscription based so when they delay their games we continue to pay and don’t get the games. As others have said the GPU main draw is the first party exclusives and this year it’s worse than sparse.

@StonyKL and they still can’t get world domination and win the big European cup. Haha. It’s a great example.

@awp69 it shouldn’t have been F2P that’s why it’s a mess and the GPU claims all first party exclusives launch on GPU. You are defending it by saying Xbox made a decision basically. They weren’t forced to make it F2P - also the campaign is 8 hours long. That’s what Sony mean. When you have pressures due to being on a sub service delays are a nightmare (Halo team would agree) and big long campaigns are harder to accomplish. Halo was great but it was a very much a subscription service game - that’s not a criticism that’s fact. No co-op campaign (still delayed) multiplayer stripped out and put stand alone to boost income in F2P model. Literally using Halo only confirms what Sony say. Halo is still brilliant but it’s clear it’s a very different game than if you were chasing full RRP.

I thought a Star Wars game was rumoured and not announced? So probably that is one.

Sports - maybe the rumoured Boxing, UFC? I doubt rugby, cricket or tennis? Timing suggests World Cup game but with other announcements that’s doubtful?

Remake - another Need for Speed? Underground? (2)

Maybe a SSX?

Other than that I can’t think what it could be… anything lol. They’ve done well to keep 4 games hidden

You can tell a ardent fan boy that states things are a “non issue” as default defence mechanism……..it’s definitely an issue and it’s nice to know that -

A - people have flagged it up so it can be looked at.

B - it’s only a temporary issue effecting a few games.

Imho this is exactly the news we need here. An Xbox story relating to users of an Xbox.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention

TBH they see the financials and need to make decisions best for their survival. Shame for people that only have Xbox and loved the game but it sounds like their core player base was elsewhere

Gaming consoles should work without the internet.

FACT.

He reads them. Doesn’t say they’ll change or do anything. We are two battle passes in and some very basic stuff still is left unattended. But yeah charge us more money.

Hard to see how they recover at this point. Hardcore halo fans will stick about but the FTP model was clearly meant to attract casuals on a massive scale. It’s been a flop and a disaster at this point.

@InterceptorAlpha they Gotsta get their FTP bucks…. That’s their focus it’s clear. Money money money.

It’s kind of a metaphor for the whole launch of Halo up to this point. The weapon keeps jamming. I hope they see the massive mistakes they’ve made with this greedy FTP model and never make them again. Halo should be their flagship for GPU and to lock it all up in Battle passes undermines the selling point of GPU.

When is a exclusive Xbox game not free day one on GPU when it’s “free to play” - but free to play means battle passes…. So not all Xbox exclusives are free day one in GPU. Just saying.

Played it very recently on Xbox. Brilliant. Aged very well. None of the nonsense that is forced upon new FPS. It’s the way FPS should be. Proper campaign. Great story and characters and so really good team mechanics.

A gold standard

I’m enjoying it. Gatekeepinv fanboys will gatekeep. “If it’s not exactly what I imagine in my head it’s WrOnG!”

@pip_muzz this. 100 times this and the worlds aren’t invaded by people or ghosts in the first two. I approve of that too.

One is a great game I’m gutted I missed the DLC. Two and Three are also VERY good games. Four and Five don’t quite capture the magic of the first three. Still very good games mind you.

@jumpin_jeeps they said from start Bethesda would keep its independence. I didn’t really believe that to be the case and still don’t. However from a PR point of view they are definitely keeping them separate - I believe this is so they can release some from Bethesda on multiple platforms.

Team Xbox are the hype kings so I don’t expect anything less. I hope we get some news on games coming very soon rather than Look at this game that is coming in 2024/25….

I fear it will be mostly the later.

This is nice wholesome content.

His fans lap all this up. He is a very very very savvy influencer. He has a legion of very loyal fans who will no doubt quote their interpretation of the law on his behalf.

YouTube is a minefield. It’s the Wild West and Sheriff YouTube does what it wants when it wants.

Those that have sought to make a living this way know what it’s like. It’s random. One person does a video it stays up and monetised. Another does similar it’s taken down……Another monetisation is removed.

I’m sure CBS aren’t bothered either way. This is triggered by one person employed to do this. Their isn’t a big meeting in CBS towers discussing this video or a personal vendetta - as usual egos are getting in the way here.

The real issue is with YouTube and how it regulates this stuff.

@InterceptorAlpha Aye fella. Whole thing screams greed to me.

Why sega fell from grace summed up in one launch DLC chart…..

They haven’t got a clue.

Who thought this was a good idea. Do companies not use focus groups anymore?

@Xiovanni THIS! To me the whole package seems sparse. They could and should include more for that entrance fee

The DLC is not from the “Skywalker saga” but from the expanded universe. So it’s not as bad as it may seem. All characters from the Saga are included as standard and there is 100s of them.

Too little too late. They got greedy and thought they could be lazy and get a massive chunk of FTP money. It backfired.

PES is dead. Which is such a shame.

https://www.xbox.com/hu-hu/games/store/splitsecond/BXW02MW8K8T1

57p on there spilt second.

Split second is excellent.

These are cheaper on the Hungary store for those that care. You don’t need a VPN or different details just change the Link to Hu instead of Gb.

Ugh more free things to “influencers” and “loud mouth” personalities.

Same as above I’d say I’ve bought at least 100 titles I’ve bought and never played just on the Xbox one or XSX add in other consoles and you can make it closes to 500.

I’ll get to them one day.

@BAMozzy you are wrong for several reasons.

Those of us old enough remember when pretty much all licensed games didn’t have likeness of “famous actors”

You are being pedantic to say this isn’t linked to the movies with its extremely close ties. It’s more of a stretch to say GPU is good for games like this than it is to say this is nothing to do with the MCU.

People are obsessed with what’s cannon and what’s not.

It’s all a bit sad.

The reviews were quite clear what was and wasn’t in this game.

Avengers suffered the same “bUt He DoESnT lOoK lIKe tHaT fAmOuS acTor!” Out cry. Sad.

Avengers as a solo player game was pretty decent and far better than the commentary from people that never played it.

I don’t need or like GaaS and so happily ignored all that grind and nonsense. The free story expansions were most welcome too.

Gamepass doesn’t make games compete for your valuable time it makes you ignore good games you would have bought.

This is a prime example. People didn’t buy it and now are enjoying it A LOT.

All games ever you pay £50 to try it. That’s gaming.

Your whole argument flies in the face of the official line that GPU is good for gaming. You are having your cake and eating it.

I have GPU and think it’s a good service but the PR spin and hype around it is massively overblown (correctly) by a very good MS marketing department… they have learnt from the 360 PR disasters.

It doesn’t mean we have to believe every word.

Re read my statement and it’s spot on.

The games audience here suffered because of its own PR - which included not distancing itself clearly enough from the PR disaster which was Avengers.

Me myself - will continue to form my own opinions - buy game I want to play and not be outraged that Hollywood superstars aren’t in a game or it’s not “official cannon” (boo hoo) I’ll enjoy it as you know….

A game….

Ha!! What a joke…..

Guardians of the Galaxy part of the MONSTER marvel cinematic universe owned by the one the biggest entertainment companies in world finds an audience because of the gamepass……

Says more about the PR around the game than anything else….

It reviewed well.

I’ve seen some spin on the impact of Gamepass but this is a stretch

Sign me up…. Dream job

Googles Activision/blizzard staff reviews:…….

Ah I’m busy sorry.

@NeoRatt for normal games and releases I’m with you. When I’m paying a monthly fee - there needs to be a constant stream of good quality games.

Halo tbh falls outside of this anyway as it’s a FTP. But again people won’t wait they’ll move on.

The issue with both Sub services and FTP you can’t make people wait

Play SSX 3 more than anything else. It’s constantly in my rotation and in last year I’ve completed more BC games than modern games

Both gold and plus have wild deviations from great months to not so great months but also different people like different games.

Hue is getting a lot of love

@Rafie exactly!!! Well said mate

Until we know the games included it’s hard to judge. We need more details.

Same as GPU until all these studios start pumping out regular exclusives it’s hard to know how good it is.

The BC games always do the heavy lifting

@RedShirtRod you genuinely believe the majority of people are paying 10.99????

I paid £3.40 a month for 3 years. I know people that paid as little as £2…. The Gold upgrade is a legit way to get GPU. I’d wager barely anyone is paying 10.99….. with third party sellers selling gold off cheap on the regular I would wager even MS themselves don’t know what the average people are paying for gold. I paid MS £1 direct for three years.

Surely people here aren’t paying 10.99 a month. When Xbox are offering a far better deal themselves?

“Official ____ Partner” for football clubs make me laugh….

Official Coffee partner, official watch partner, official airline partner, official car maker….
As a big football fan…. And specifically of a club that has more official partners than good players…. I have NEVER been swayed into buying a product because they are an official partner. I have however been put off a product because the TV was full of adverts of rival players telling me they are the official partner of that club.

So from a small sample of one… partner deals do more damage than good

@awp69 exactly and don’t the WRC get a rather mixed review?

I was hoping we’d get a rally game that mixes WRC into a more Dirt style game with other races types as well. A sort of “Rally Motorsports” kind of thing…. With loads of different dirt racing.

Gamepass only on Xbox SX that and BC titles most that I already owned and not adding new ones really.

PS5 I buy the games I want but mostly snag bargains. Even for new games bargains are possible.

Switch I have a meaty physical collection but do buy games digital in the sale.

GPU basically forces you to wait for games. Even digital sales - you always think…. Hmmm… this will be on GPU next month.

GPU has probably actually made me play less game on XBOX and not more. It’s the Netflix effect…. You have too much choice and none of it you personally selected that being said Forza Horizon is best game in last 12 months on any console.

@Bobobiwan agree 100% - as a solo player campaign it really is good. For the £10 you can pick it up for now it’s a great option. Unfortunately all the noise around the silly GaaS part drowns out the great campaign. That and people saying “ BuT tHeY DonT loOK liKe theY do in ThA MoViEZ”

Another waste of a license that could have an epic solo player game.