Played for a couple of days over the weekend. Every other game had some bit of stuttering. Can't be bothered uninstalling and reinstalling. Went back to Cold War.
I've no interest in playing PC games. So this doesn't interest me. Think this is more of an issue for MS than Sony. So far going into the next gen it seems that the Xbox main selling point was going to be access to steam. Unlike Sony, MS needs to do something to expand their player base. So I don't see why Sony would want or need to try and copy MS on steam access. It would obviously destroy their console eco system. They make loads from selling games on their digital store. Why would they want to lose that when they don't need to?
As my series X is only used for GPU I can't see me getting this Xbox PC. I don't have any interest in playing PC games so why would I pay a premium to get access to them. I have 2 years of GPU built up. So depending on how the reward points to GPU goes I'll maybe just be replacing my series X when it dies with another series X.
@IronMan30 Yes the prices of consoles are getting close to PCs which if u said that to people years they would say ur crazy. Guess that's why Xbox is going down the route of trying to mix the two to get a wider player base. There's a rumor that the PS6 is going to have 2 versions and 1 of them is going to be a handheld. I think the best would be a handheld as powerful as the PS5 and then a dock. Where the dock works together with the handheld to boost it to full next gen levels. I think this next gen could be the one where it's worth holding onto ur current gen for a year or so just to see what happens.
Can see this being a tough sell. Xbox isn't selling well as it is but they want to go after PC gamers and pass the charge onto console gamers. Why would a PC gamer buy a locked in box that they can't make any changes to? That's one of the main points of playing games on PC. I hope they dont have another S and X version. Just stick to the most powerful one. At the minute I'll be keeping my gamepass console, I mean series X. As it's not my main console, so I won't be paying 1k for something that doesn't get much use.
Got 2 years of GPU built up through rewards points. Will keep earning them. But GPU is not something I use enough to warrent paying for. So will probably leave in a few years time. I'm not sure if I'll bother getting the new Xbox. I have no interest in steam or PC gaming in general. So it's big selling point is not of interest to me.
@FraserG They're buffing the numbers but it's worse if u use the points for ur gamepass subscription. You can't renew points for gamepass subscription now. You need to convert to Xbox gift card and then buy the gamepass subscription. Which works out as more points.
Used to have to pay full price for the vault edition. Now it's on gamepass I'm saving money and still getting the vault edition. Though I do hope they actually tone down the skins in BO7.
@SMJ It works for MS because they're integrating into PC and getting their games onto every platform. They don't care so much about what u play the game on just so long as they're getting money for u playing the game. So outsourcing the hardware suits them as already seen. Sony is different and their main selling point is more leaning into exclusivity. I think that would need to shift a lot for them to start outsourcing their hardware designs. Come 2038 though anything could happen.
@TheEstablishment 😁 Gotta get the best nights sleep. I'm with u on the PC gaming. It's way too much hassle compared to consoles. That's why I'm worried about MS pushing the console into the PC space. It's the wrong way to go in my opinion. Though suits them with the outsourcing of the hardware. They just become fully software business again. They'll be hoping AI can do loads for them when it comes to making games in the future. Hope I'm wrong but it smells that way.
@Project13 As I said originally I'm not anti-PC. If u like that way of playing then that's OK. I just said it's not for me. That's why I was saying I won't be jumping to the next console MS release. My series X is a gamepass console, I don't buy games on it at all. If the PS6 is a suitable jump over my PS5 Pro then I will be getting it. With MS removing any exclusivity and releasing on PlayStation the more likely I am to just go from 2 consoles to 1.
@TheEstablishment Just 1 pillow? Why not 2 on top of each other on top of ur 8k mattress on top of a base of gold bars. 😂
@Project13 Yea na, still very much an issue from what I hear. The new AI stuff for GPUs is also causing problems. I got into PC gaming because of PUBG. Left because of the cheating. Driver issues were an issue for me when I was playing the year or so before covid hit. My PC was more powerful than one of my streaming mates and for a time looked worse than his! PC just isn't as refined as console. That's because a console is built to do only 1 thing where a PC is used for everything. Enjoy playing on PC, I just don't and it's not a lack of experience that causes it.
@Project13 Oh I'm not against PC gaming. More it's just not for me. When I want to play games I want to be able to turn it on and play. Not fart around fixing driver issues and the amount of cheating in MP shooters is crazy.
@Project13 100%! I'm not going to be jumping to get rid of the series X for the console / PC they're replacing it with. They're pushing more into catering for PC and that is not something that interests me at all. Even less when they're going to be outsourcing them to 3rd parties. Oh u bought the new Xbox in 2027. We'll it's 2028 and Asus Are launching their even more powerful one. Then same again in 2029 and onward etc. I did the PC gaming for a few years and just no. Give me a console every day of the week. I think even the PS6 is going to be a hard sell to get people to replace the PS5 Pro.
Guessing it's going to be the elite series 3 controller.
@SMJ They're def going that way. Think 100% that the next console will be the last one they develop themselves. Gonna outsource everything. Sony will be telling MS you can reskin our PS6 pro as a new Xbox when we release the PS7.
The Battlefield 6 beta got me back into playing BO6. Perhaps I treated it too harshly. So interested to see what BO7 will be like as I'll be playing it not Battlefield 6.
Battlefield 6 felt exhausting to play and gave me a sore head. Couldn't play more than 3 games in a row. Never had that with COD or any other game.
Played a some of it and enjoyed it but for some reason always felt exhausted after a few games and gave me a sore head as well. Never had that issue with COD. So I'll probably skip it.
Unfortunately this does indeed sound like it's the end of the road for Forza Motorsport. Def on end of life support and once everything has been added it'll just be general bug fixes and keeping the servers switched on. The game wasn't ready when it released. They also should not have gone for a live service model, especially for single player. It's sad as I can't see there being any follow ups.
@Fiendish-Beaver I hope the same and they release in 2027. Though they could use the anniversary as an excuse to go early on the next gen. Which I really hope they don't. PSN premium is def not worth the price. The lowest teir isn't too bad, you do get some good months tbf. I only use the series X for gamepass and buy everything else on the PS. If ur thinking of not getting the next xbox and using gamepass through PC, u might be best starting to buying ur third-party games on PS. Have a good backlog ready for the PS6. 😂
@Millionski I main on the PS5 Pro, but all gamepass games I play on the series X. Last year, this year and next year are 🔥. The issue comes with how the 3rd parties are going to be allowed to release new "Xbox" consoles going forward. Like why would I buy a Xbox only for a new version to be released the following year. With all the Xbox games coming to Sony now, the need to have both or in fact an Xbox over a Playstation is greatly reduced. I don't have a need to access PC store fronts. So this innovation doesn't interest me.
Have gamepass for another couple of years. So will be waiting to see what exactly their strategy will be. I'm hoping they do 1 more generation of their own console before switching to 3rd parties. If they do go down the 3rd party route I hope it is controlled and stops companies from just releaseing new ones every year or even worse just when they feel like it.
@Rafie @wildcat_kickz Knew there was something about the development of helldivers. Think they did the same with that rise of the ronin game. I was just saying maybe that why they've chosen to do it with this game. As it wasn't developed in house and isn't a god of war etc. Was also just saying I couldn't see a lot of other games going from Sony to Xbox no matter what happens.
@wildcat_kickz Def can see it being a test of the waters for Sony. Though even if it is successful, I'm not sure if they'll start moving all their games over. This was classed as a 3rd party game from them I believe. Since it wasn't developed in house.
A game like Horizon was desperately needed on the PS5. Can't see helldivers 2 doing those sorts of numbers. It could go as badly as that Final Fantasy game.
@Deshalu The Elder Scrolls Online director Matt Firor, who helped launch ZeniMax Online Studios in 2007, is leaving the company.
Gregg Mayles served as the creative director for Sea of Thieves. In total, Mayles has worked on nearly 30 games at Rare. He was moved over to be the director on Everwild in 2021.
While the games have been in development for a long time there's a lot that has gone on that we don't know about.
MS in terms of software have been on fire last year, this year and from what we've seen they won't be slowing down next year. To keep the flow of games coming I think they need not just staff but experienced staff. Also all the studios possible to help keep the games coming.
MS made how much money? So why do they need to get rid of staff?
All these redundancy exercises and this happens at other large companies not just at MS, are done not because they need to, but are done to get more profit and force people to do more work or "take on more responsibility to help grow their careers".
@Deshalu I could have sworn the elder scrolls online game was still going and it's latest expansion was shown at one of the shows. Similarly with sea of thieves... Ignore those games, squint a bit and ur right. One is just the studio president and the other has 35 years experience working as a game designer and has been a director on Rare's only game for how many years? It'll be fine though, interns and AI can replace them. 😀
Will be impacted after the next console is released and then MS just get other companies to make "Xboxes". As with the rog handheld. 3rd party made it and then we heard that MS had cancelled their own handheld project. Have done the same with VR.
Xbox has def shifted into publisher rather than console manufacturer. The rog ally and meta quest is proof of that. Oh u have a product already can u stick some Xbox stuff on it for us and save us having to do it. They're on fire with the games but I honestly can't see MS creating their own console after this next generation. Like they've already dropped their own handheld hardware. The next gen console was probably too far along to drop. For me I have no interest in playing on PC again or having access to my steam library, if it's on the go or not with the rog ally. I certainly don't want to pay extra for the privilege.
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Re: Forza Horizon 2 Super Early Xbox Development Build Leaks Online
Wish they'd do a remake of this game. Really liked it.
Re: Poll: What Are Your First Impressions Of Black Ops 7 On Xbox Game Pass?
Played for a couple of days over the weekend. Every other game had some bit of stuttering. Can't be bothered uninstalling and reinstalling. Went back to Cold War.
Re: Analyst Questions Whether Next Xbox & PS6 Could Slip To 2028 Following GTA Delay
GTA 6 will get delayed again and then become a launch title for the new Xbox and PS6.
Re: Talking Point: What Does The 'Steam Machine' Mean For Xbox's Next-Gen Console Plans?
I've no interest in playing PC games. So this doesn't interest me. Think this is more of an issue for MS than Sony. So far going into the next gen it seems that the Xbox main selling point was going to be access to steam. Unlike Sony, MS needs to do something to expand their player base. So I don't see why Sony would want or need to try and copy MS on steam access. It would obviously destroy their console eco system. They make loads from selling games on their digital store. Why would they want to lose that when they don't need to?
Re: Black Ops 7 Season 01 Revealed Before The Game's Even Out, And It's Absolutely Stacked
@WobberleyBob As the kids today would say:
I'll 360 no-scope ur a$$
😂
Re: Black Ops 7 Season 01 Revealed Before The Game's Even Out, And It's Absolutely Stacked
Bought Battlefield 6 and have dropped it and gone back to Blops6. Looking forward to Blops7.
Re: Sarah Bond: Our Next-Gen Console Will Be 'Very Premium' & Informed By ROG Xbox Ally
As my series X is only used for GPU I can't see me getting this Xbox PC. I don't have any interest in playing PC games so why would I pay a premium to get access to them. I have 2 years of GPU built up. So depending on how the reward points to GPU goes I'll maybe just be replacing my series X when it dies with another series X.
Re: Poll: Are You More Interested In The ROG Xbox Ally Now That Reviews Are Out?
No interest at all
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think Of Keeper On Xbox Game Pass
Very interesting looking game, will def be giving it a go.
Re: Xbox 'Magnus' Leak Suggests Next Console Will Be Powerful, Expensive & Maybe A Hybrid Device
@IronMan30 Yes the prices of consoles are getting close to PCs which if u said that to people years they would say ur crazy. Guess that's why Xbox is going down the route of trying to mix the two to get a wider player base. There's a rumor that the PS6 is going to have 2 versions and 1 of them is going to be a handheld. I think the best would be a handheld as powerful as the PS5 and then a dock. Where the dock works together with the handheld to boost it to full next gen levels. I think this next gen could be the one where it's worth holding onto ur current gen for a year or so just to see what happens.
Re: Xbox 'Magnus' Leak Suggests Next Console Will Be Powerful, Expensive & Maybe A Hybrid Device
@IronMan30 Hybrid as in it'll play console and PC games. Not hybrid like the switch / switch 2.
Re: Xbox 'Magnus' Leak Suggests Next Console Will Be Powerful, Expensive & Maybe A Hybrid Device
Can see this being a tough sell. Xbox isn't selling well as it is but they want to go after PC gamers and pass the charge onto console gamers. Why would a PC gamer buy a locked in box that they can't make any changes to? That's one of the main points of playing games on PC. I hope they dont have another S and X version. Just stick to the most powerful one. At the minute I'll be keeping my gamepass console, I mean series X. As it's not my main console, so I won't be paying 1k for something that doesn't get much use.
Re: Xbox's Playground Games Grew Substantially In 2024 To Prepare For Fable & Forza Horizon 6
@JayJ This is the way
Re: Xbox's Playground Games Grew Substantially In 2024 To Prepare For Fable & Forza Horizon 6
Then they'll sack a load when the games have released.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Plans For Xbox Game Pass After This Week's News?
Got 2 years of GPU built up through rewards points. Will keep earning them. But GPU is not something I use enough to warrent paying for. So will probably leave in a few years time. I'm not sure if I'll bother getting the new Xbox. I have no interest in steam or PC gaming in general. So it's big selling point is not of interest to me.
Re: Xbox Rewards Is Buffing Its Points In Some Cases, And Nerfing Them In Others
@FraserG Ah sorry, hadn't seen when I checked this morning.
Re: Xbox Rewards Is Buffing Its Points In Some Cases, And Nerfing Them In Others
@Feffster I did the same at about 6:30 this morning. 😂 So not sure when it's actually happening, but best people be aware.
Re: Xbox Rewards Is Buffing Its Points In Some Cases, And Nerfing Them In Others
@FraserG They're buffing the numbers but it's worse if u use the points for ur gamepass subscription. You can't renew points for gamepass subscription now. You need to convert to Xbox gift card and then buy the gamepass subscription. Which works out as more points.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Heads To Japan In 2026, Day One On Xbox Game Pass
There must be a new console coming next year. Fable and this are what u would usually class as launch titles for a new generation.
Re: Opinion: The Value Proposition Of Xbox Series S Is Better Than Ever In 2025
It's been a while and I still don't get the point of this article. Is it just you trying to justify not buying a switch 2?
Re: Opinion: The Value Proposition Of Xbox Series S Is Better Than Ever In 2025
Went out to buy something completely different to what they already have and ended up buying the cheaper version of something they already have.
Re: Talking Point: So, Is Hollow Knight: Silksong Worth The Hype On Xbox Game Pass?
@CapeCityOne I don't buy games on Xbox....
Re: Black Ops 7's Game Pass Upgrade Is Already One Of The Top Sellers On The Xbox Store
Used to have to pay full price for the vault edition. Now it's on gamepass I'm saving money and still getting the vault edition. Though I do hope they actually tone down the skins in BO7.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@SMJ It works for MS because they're integrating into PC and getting their games onto every platform. They don't care so much about what u play the game on just so long as they're getting money for u playing the game. So outsourcing the hardware suits them as already seen. Sony is different and their main selling point is more leaning into exclusivity. I think that would need to shift a lot for them to start outsourcing their hardware designs. Come 2038 though anything could happen.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@TheEstablishment 😁 Gotta get the best nights sleep. I'm with u on the PC gaming. It's way too much hassle compared to consoles. That's why I'm worried about MS pushing the console into the PC space. It's the wrong way to go in my opinion. Though suits them with the outsourcing of the hardware. They just become fully software business again. They'll be hoping AI can do loads for them when it comes to making games in the future. Hope I'm wrong but it smells that way.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@Project13 As I said originally I'm not anti-PC. If u like that way of playing then that's OK. I just said it's not for me. That's why I was saying I won't be jumping to the next console MS release. My series X is a gamepass console, I don't buy games on it at all. If the PS6 is a suitable jump over my PS5 Pro then I will be getting it. With MS removing any exclusivity and releasing on PlayStation the more likely I am to just go from 2 consoles to 1.
@TheEstablishment Just 1 pillow? Why not 2 on top of each other on top of ur 8k mattress on top of a base of gold bars. 😂
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@Project13 Yea na, still very much an issue from what I hear. The new AI stuff for GPUs is also causing problems. I got into PC gaming because of PUBG. Left because of the cheating. Driver issues were an issue for me when I was playing the year or so before covid hit. My PC was more powerful than one of my streaming mates and for a time looked worse than his! PC just isn't as refined as console. That's because a console is built to do only 1 thing where a PC is used for everything. Enjoy playing on PC, I just don't and it's not a lack of experience that causes it.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@Project13 Oh I'm not against PC gaming. More it's just not for me. When I want to play games I want to be able to turn it on and play. Not fart around fixing driver issues and the amount of cheating in MP shooters is crazy.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@Project13 100%! I'm not going to be jumping to get rid of the series X for the console / PC they're replacing it with. They're pushing more into catering for PC and that is not something that interests me at all. Even less when they're going to be outsourcing them to 3rd parties. Oh u bought the new Xbox in 2027. We'll it's 2028 and Asus Are launching their even more powerful one. Then same again in 2029 and onward etc. I did the PC gaming for a few years and just no. Give me a console every day of the week. I think even the PS6 is going to be a hard sell to get people to replace the PS5 Pro.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
Guessing it's going to be the elite series 3 controller.
@SMJ They're def going that way. Think 100% that the next console will be the last one they develop themselves. Gonna outsource everything. Sony will be telling MS you can reskin our PS6 pro as a new Xbox when we release the PS7.
Re: Gamescom 2025 Opening Night Live Showcase: Date, Start Times & What To Expect
The Battlefield 6 beta got me back into playing BO6. Perhaps I treated it too harshly. So interested to see what BO7 will be like as I'll be playing it not Battlefield 6.
Battlefield 6 felt exhausting to play and gave me a sore head. Couldn't play more than 3 games in a row. Never had that with COD or any other game.
Re: Talking Point: What Should Xbox Do To Celebrate Its 25th Anniversary Next Year?
Info on the next console would be good. They have to release Fable and the new Gears. Confirm the next Forza Horizon game.
Edit: Original post was on the wrong thing.
Re: Battlefield 6 Smashes Steam Record As Early Beta Impressions Go Live
Played a some of it and enjoyed it but for some reason always felt exhausted after a few games and gave me a sore head as well. Never had that issue with COD. So I'll probably skip it.
Re: Talking Point: Is Forza Horizon About To Become Xbox's Main Forza Franchise?
There's no "about to" about it. Motorsport is practically dead with MS wiping out the team and moving them over to the Horizon side.
Re: Forza Motorsport Team 'Assures' Players That Support Will Continue
Unfortunately this does indeed sound like it's the end of the road for Forza Motorsport. Def on end of life support and once everything has been added it'll just be general bug fixes and keeping the servers switched on. The game wasn't ready when it released. They also should not have gone for a live service model, especially for single player. It's sad as I can't see there being any follow ups.
Re: Xbox Dev Turn 10 Goes Dark As Questions Remain Over The Future Of Forza Motorsport
AI is looking after it now.
Re: Microsoft CEO Comments On Recent Xbox Layoffs, Doubles Down On AI
Just the PS6 for me next gen then.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Fiendish-Beaver I hope the same and they release in 2027. Though they could use the anniversary as an excuse to go early on the next gen. Which I really hope they don't. PSN premium is def not worth the price. The lowest teir isn't too bad, you do get some good months tbf. I only use the series X for gamepass and buy everything else on the PS. If ur thinking of not getting the next xbox and using gamepass through PC, u might be best starting to buying ur third-party games on PS. Have a good backlog ready for the PS6. 😂
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Millionski I main on the PS5 Pro, but all gamepass games I play on the series X. Last year, this year and next year are 🔥. The issue comes with how the 3rd parties are going to be allowed to release new "Xbox" consoles going forward. Like why would I buy a Xbox only for a new version to be released the following year. With all the Xbox games coming to Sony now, the need to have both or in fact an Xbox over a Playstation is greatly reduced. I don't have a need to access PC store fronts. So this innovation doesn't interest me.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
Have gamepass for another couple of years. So will be waiting to see what exactly their strategy will be. I'm hoping they do 1 more generation of their own console before switching to 3rd parties. If they do go down the 3rd party route I hope it is controlled and stops companies from just releaseing new ones every year or even worse just when they feel like it.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Set To Overtake 2024's Game Of The Year With Over 3 Million Sales On PS5
@Rafie @wildcat_kickz Knew there was something about the development of helldivers. Think they did the same with that rise of the ronin game. I was just saying maybe that why they've chosen to do it with this game. As it wasn't developed in house and isn't a god of war etc. Was also just saying I couldn't see a lot of other games going from Sony to Xbox no matter what happens.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Set To Overtake 2024's Game Of The Year With Over 3 Million Sales On PS5
@wildcat_kickz Def can see it being a test of the waters for Sony. Though even if it is successful, I'm not sure if they'll start moving all their games over. This was classed as a 3rd party game from them I believe. Since it wasn't developed in house.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Set To Overtake 2024's Game Of The Year With Over 3 Million Sales On PS5
A game like Horizon was desperately needed on the PS5. Can't see helldivers 2 doing those sorts of numbers. It could go as badly as that Final Fantasy game.
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
@Deshalu The Elder Scrolls Online director Matt Firor, who helped launch ZeniMax Online Studios in 2007, is leaving the company.
Gregg Mayles served as the creative director for Sea of Thieves. In total, Mayles has worked on nearly 30 games at Rare. He was moved over to be the director on Everwild in 2021.
While the games have been in development for a long time there's a lot that has gone on that we don't know about.
MS in terms of software have been on fire last year, this year and from what we've seen they won't be slowing down next year. To keep the flow of games coming I think they need not just staff but experienced staff. Also all the studios possible to help keep the games coming.
MS made how much money? So why do they need to get rid of staff?
All these redundancy exercises and this happens at other large companies not just at MS, are done not because they need to, but are done to get more profit and force people to do more work or "take on more responsibility to help grow their careers".
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
@Deshalu I could have sworn the elder scrolls online game was still going and it's latest expansion was shown at one of the shows. Similarly with sea of thieves... Ignore those games, squint a bit and ur right. One is just the studio president and the other has 35 years experience working as a game designer and has been a director on Rare's only game for how many years? It'll be fine though, interns and AI can replace them. 😀
Re: Xbox's Matt Booty Issues Statement On Layoffs And Game Cancellations
Madness. So they have a lot of games in the pipeline now, what about for the following year and next gen? They're betting all their money on AI.
Re: Xbox Next-Gen Console Plans 'Not Impacted' By Microsoft Layoffs
Will be impacted after the next console is released and then MS just get other companies to make "Xboxes". As with the rog handheld. 3rd party made it and then we heard that MS had cancelled their own handheld project. Have done the same with VR.
Re: Xbox Founding Member 'Not Pleased' With State Of The Brand In 2025
Xbox has def shifted into publisher rather than console manufacturer. The rog ally and meta quest is proof of that. Oh u have a product already can u stick some Xbox stuff on it for us and save us having to do it. They're on fire with the games but I honestly can't see MS creating their own console after this next generation. Like they've already dropped their own handheld hardware. The next gen console was probably too far along to drop. For me I have no interest in playing on PC again or having access to my steam library, if it's on the go or not with the rog ally. I certainly don't want to pay extra for the privilege.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Xbox In The Second Half Of The Year?
Less redundancies so they can keep up the amount of games they're releasing without relying on AI to make them all.
Re: Two New Black Ops 7 Game Modes Leaked Via Call Of Duty Xbox App
Blops6 kind of made me lose interest in COD tbh. Will give Blops7 a go since it's free on gamepass. Otherwise I would just be leaving it.