Used to have to pay full price for the vault edition. Now it's on gamepass I'm saving money and still getting the vault edition. Though I do hope they actually tone down the skins in BO7.
@SMJ It works for MS because they're integrating into PC and getting their games onto every platform. They don't care so much about what u play the game on just so long as they're getting money for u playing the game. So outsourcing the hardware suits them as already seen. Sony is different and their main selling point is more leaning into exclusivity. I think that would need to shift a lot for them to start outsourcing their hardware designs. Come 2038 though anything could happen.
@TheEstablishment 😁 Gotta get the best nights sleep. I'm with u on the PC gaming. It's way too much hassle compared to consoles. That's why I'm worried about MS pushing the console into the PC space. It's the wrong way to go in my opinion. Though suits them with the outsourcing of the hardware. They just become fully software business again. They'll be hoping AI can do loads for them when it comes to making games in the future. Hope I'm wrong but it smells that way.
@Project13 As I said originally I'm not anti-PC. If u like that way of playing then that's OK. I just said it's not for me. That's why I was saying I won't be jumping to the next console MS release. My series X is a gamepass console, I don't buy games on it at all. If the PS6 is a suitable jump over my PS5 Pro then I will be getting it. With MS removing any exclusivity and releasing on PlayStation the more likely I am to just go from 2 consoles to 1.
@TheEstablishment Just 1 pillow? Why not 2 on top of each other on top of ur 8k mattress on top of a base of gold bars. 😂
@Project13 Yea na, still very much an issue from what I hear. The new AI stuff for GPUs is also causing problems. I got into PC gaming because of PUBG. Left because of the cheating. Driver issues were an issue for me when I was playing the year or so before covid hit. My PC was more powerful than one of my streaming mates and for a time looked worse than his! PC just isn't as refined as console. That's because a console is built to do only 1 thing where a PC is used for everything. Enjoy playing on PC, I just don't and it's not a lack of experience that causes it.
@Project13 Oh I'm not against PC gaming. More it's just not for me. When I want to play games I want to be able to turn it on and play. Not fart around fixing driver issues and the amount of cheating in MP shooters is crazy.
@Project13 100%! I'm not going to be jumping to get rid of the series X for the console / PC they're replacing it with. They're pushing more into catering for PC and that is not something that interests me at all. Even less when they're going to be outsourcing them to 3rd parties. Oh u bought the new Xbox in 2027. We'll it's 2028 and Asus Are launching their even more powerful one. Then same again in 2029 and onward etc. I did the PC gaming for a few years and just no. Give me a console every day of the week. I think even the PS6 is going to be a hard sell to get people to replace the PS5 Pro.
Guessing it's going to be the elite series 3 controller.
@SMJ They're def going that way. Think 100% that the next console will be the last one they develop themselves. Gonna outsource everything. Sony will be telling MS you can reskin our PS6 pro as a new Xbox when we release the PS7.
The Battlefield 6 beta got me back into playing BO6. Perhaps I treated it too harshly. So interested to see what BO7 will be like as I'll be playing it not Battlefield 6.
Battlefield 6 felt exhausting to play and gave me a sore head. Couldn't play more than 3 games in a row. Never had that with COD or any other game.
Played a some of it and enjoyed it but for some reason always felt exhausted after a few games and gave me a sore head as well. Never had that issue with COD. So I'll probably skip it.
Unfortunately this does indeed sound like it's the end of the road for Forza Motorsport. Def on end of life support and once everything has been added it'll just be general bug fixes and keeping the servers switched on. The game wasn't ready when it released. They also should not have gone for a live service model, especially for single player. It's sad as I can't see there being any follow ups.
@Fiendish-Beaver I hope the same and they release in 2027. Though they could use the anniversary as an excuse to go early on the next gen. Which I really hope they don't. PSN premium is def not worth the price. The lowest teir isn't too bad, you do get some good months tbf. I only use the series X for gamepass and buy everything else on the PS. If ur thinking of not getting the next xbox and using gamepass through PC, u might be best starting to buying ur third-party games on PS. Have a good backlog ready for the PS6. 😂
@Millionski I main on the PS5 Pro, but all gamepass games I play on the series X. Last year, this year and next year are 🔥. The issue comes with how the 3rd parties are going to be allowed to release new "Xbox" consoles going forward. Like why would I buy a Xbox only for a new version to be released the following year. With all the Xbox games coming to Sony now, the need to have both or in fact an Xbox over a Playstation is greatly reduced. I don't have a need to access PC store fronts. So this innovation doesn't interest me.
Have gamepass for another couple of years. So will be waiting to see what exactly their strategy will be. I'm hoping they do 1 more generation of their own console before switching to 3rd parties. If they do go down the 3rd party route I hope it is controlled and stops companies from just releaseing new ones every year or even worse just when they feel like it.
@Rafie @wildcat_kickz Knew there was something about the development of helldivers. Think they did the same with that rise of the ronin game. I was just saying maybe that why they've chosen to do it with this game. As it wasn't developed in house and isn't a god of war etc. Was also just saying I couldn't see a lot of other games going from Sony to Xbox no matter what happens.
@wildcat_kickz Def can see it being a test of the waters for Sony. Though even if it is successful, I'm not sure if they'll start moving all their games over. This was classed as a 3rd party game from them I believe. Since it wasn't developed in house.
A game like Horizon was desperately needed on the PS5. Can't see helldivers 2 doing those sorts of numbers. It could go as badly as that Final Fantasy game.
@Deshalu The Elder Scrolls Online director Matt Firor, who helped launch ZeniMax Online Studios in 2007, is leaving the company.
Gregg Mayles served as the creative director for Sea of Thieves. In total, Mayles has worked on nearly 30 games at Rare. He was moved over to be the director on Everwild in 2021.
While the games have been in development for a long time there's a lot that has gone on that we don't know about.
MS in terms of software have been on fire last year, this year and from what we've seen they won't be slowing down next year. To keep the flow of games coming I think they need not just staff but experienced staff. Also all the studios possible to help keep the games coming.
MS made how much money? So why do they need to get rid of staff?
All these redundancy exercises and this happens at other large companies not just at MS, are done not because they need to, but are done to get more profit and force people to do more work or "take on more responsibility to help grow their careers".
@Deshalu I could have sworn the elder scrolls online game was still going and it's latest expansion was shown at one of the shows. Similarly with sea of thieves... Ignore those games, squint a bit and ur right. One is just the studio president and the other has 35 years experience working as a game designer and has been a director on Rare's only game for how many years? It'll be fine though, interns and AI can replace them. 😀
Will be impacted after the next console is released and then MS just get other companies to make "Xboxes". As with the rog handheld. 3rd party made it and then we heard that MS had cancelled their own handheld project. Have done the same with VR.
Xbox has def shifted into publisher rather than console manufacturer. The rog ally and meta quest is proof of that. Oh u have a product already can u stick some Xbox stuff on it for us and save us having to do it. They're on fire with the games but I honestly can't see MS creating their own console after this next generation. Like they've already dropped their own handheld hardware. The next gen console was probably too far along to drop. For me I have no interest in playing on PC again or having access to my steam library, if it's on the go or not with the rog ally. I certainly don't want to pay extra for the privilege.
"he doesn't feel it's healthy for the industry to put titles on Xbox Game Pass at launch, and it hasn't led to the additional sales his team had originally hoped for."
Who the heck puts a game on a subscription service expecting it to lead to additional sales?
@JustinSane It's mind-boggling to think about the amount of must play games coming out. Next year is going to be a stunning year for Xbox. This year hasn't been too shabby either. 😂
@ZYDIO Was strange, had been playing fine at release then it started getting worse and worse. Which was why I had been thinking it might have been the was the wireless connection issue.
@Kaloudz Yea u can switch games internal to external and back again. Far handier to actually have instant access to ur games rather than rotating them or sitting down wanting to play something and then have to wait while it copies over. The prices are really not on for these cards. MS decision has u locked in though so they can get away with it.
Soo many great games, so little time. 😂 Gamepass really has been on fire! Started last year, continued into this year and it's not slowing down next year either.
@Kaloudz Hopefully Xbox goes down the route that Sony did with the PS5. Where u just buy sticks and install them. Far cheaper than having their own proprietary plug-in card. If it is going to be more PC like then they def need to make it like that.
@ZYDIO I was talking about hoping that my personal series X lasts the next couple of years. Multiplayer black ops 6 is unplayable, stuttering like mad. Even Forza Motorsport in career is stuttering quite a bit. Uninstalled and reinstalled black ops 6 so going to see if that has helped. As south of midnight had no issues. So not sure if it's GPU or the wireless network card. My launch series X had a faulty wireless card. So maybe I'm just unlucky!
Some really good games. Would have though fable or the new gears would have turned up. That keeper game looks nuts. 😂 Def a lot to look forward to, I just hope my series X can survive until the next gen.
Poor scalpers living off scraps now. Just not having the same joy as they did during the pandemic. Remember hearing ones quitting their jobs to just sell PS5s forever believing that nothing would go back to normal.
At this stage if my series X dies, I won't be replacing it. I'll just play 100% on my PS5 Pro and pick up the Xbox games (when on sale). My guess is everything is going to PS, so would then have to decide if I even get the next xbox. Though that's all theoretical, my series X is not going to break down. 🤞
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Re: Black Ops 7's Game Pass Upgrade Is Already One Of The Top Sellers On The Xbox Store
Used to have to pay full price for the vault edition. Now it's on gamepass I'm saving money and still getting the vault edition. Though I do hope they actually tone down the skins in BO7.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@SMJ It works for MS because they're integrating into PC and getting their games onto every platform. They don't care so much about what u play the game on just so long as they're getting money for u playing the game. So outsourcing the hardware suits them as already seen. Sony is different and their main selling point is more leaning into exclusivity. I think that would need to shift a lot for them to start outsourcing their hardware designs. Come 2038 though anything could happen.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@TheEstablishment 😁 Gotta get the best nights sleep. I'm with u on the PC gaming. It's way too much hassle compared to consoles. That's why I'm worried about MS pushing the console into the PC space. It's the wrong way to go in my opinion. Though suits them with the outsourcing of the hardware. They just become fully software business again. They'll be hoping AI can do loads for them when it comes to making games in the future. Hope I'm wrong but it smells that way.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@Project13 As I said originally I'm not anti-PC. If u like that way of playing then that's OK. I just said it's not for me. That's why I was saying I won't be jumping to the next console MS release. My series X is a gamepass console, I don't buy games on it at all. If the PS6 is a suitable jump over my PS5 Pro then I will be getting it. With MS removing any exclusivity and releasing on PlayStation the more likely I am to just go from 2 consoles to 1.
@TheEstablishment Just 1 pillow? Why not 2 on top of each other on top of ur 8k mattress on top of a base of gold bars. 😂
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@Project13 Yea na, still very much an issue from what I hear. The new AI stuff for GPUs is also causing problems. I got into PC gaming because of PUBG. Left because of the cheating. Driver issues were an issue for me when I was playing the year or so before covid hit. My PC was more powerful than one of my streaming mates and for a time looked worse than his! PC just isn't as refined as console. That's because a console is built to do only 1 thing where a PC is used for everything. Enjoy playing on PC, I just don't and it's not a lack of experience that causes it.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@Project13 Oh I'm not against PC gaming. More it's just not for me. When I want to play games I want to be able to turn it on and play. Not fart around fixing driver issues and the amount of cheating in MP shooters is crazy.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
@Project13 100%! I'm not going to be jumping to get rid of the series X for the console / PC they're replacing it with. They're pushing more into catering for PC and that is not something that interests me at all. Even less when they're going to be outsourcing them to 3rd parties. Oh u bought the new Xbox in 2027. We'll it's 2028 and Asus Are launching their even more powerful one. Then same again in 2029 and onward etc. I did the PC gaming for a few years and just no. Give me a console every day of the week. I think even the PS6 is going to be a hard sell to get people to replace the PS5 Pro.
Re: ASUS Teases Another 'Extraordinary' Xbox Reveal For Gamescom 2025
Guessing it's going to be the elite series 3 controller.
@SMJ They're def going that way. Think 100% that the next console will be the last one they develop themselves. Gonna outsource everything. Sony will be telling MS you can reskin our PS6 pro as a new Xbox when we release the PS7.
Re: Gamescom 2025 Opening Night Live Showcase: Date, Start Times & What To Expect
The Battlefield 6 beta got me back into playing BO6. Perhaps I treated it too harshly. So interested to see what BO7 will be like as I'll be playing it not Battlefield 6.
Battlefield 6 felt exhausting to play and gave me a sore head. Couldn't play more than 3 games in a row. Never had that with COD or any other game.
Re: Talking Point: What Should Xbox Do To Celebrate Its 25th Anniversary Next Year?
Info on the next console would be good. They have to release Fable and the new Gears. Confirm the next Forza Horizon game.
Edit: Original post was on the wrong thing.
Re: Battlefield 6 Smashes Steam Record As Early Beta Impressions Go Live
Played a some of it and enjoyed it but for some reason always felt exhausted after a few games and gave me a sore head as well. Never had that issue with COD. So I'll probably skip it.
Re: Talking Point: Is Forza Horizon About To Become Xbox's Main Forza Franchise?
There's no "about to" about it. Motorsport is practically dead with MS wiping out the team and moving them over to the Horizon side.
Re: Forza Motorsport Team 'Assures' Players That Support Will Continue
Unfortunately this does indeed sound like it's the end of the road for Forza Motorsport. Def on end of life support and once everything has been added it'll just be general bug fixes and keeping the servers switched on. The game wasn't ready when it released. They also should not have gone for a live service model, especially for single player. It's sad as I can't see there being any follow ups.
Re: Xbox Dev Turn 10 Goes Dark As Questions Remain Over The Future Of Forza Motorsport
AI is looking after it now.
Re: Microsoft CEO Comments On Recent Xbox Layoffs, Doubles Down On AI
Just the PS6 for me next gen then.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Fiendish-Beaver I hope the same and they release in 2027. Though they could use the anniversary as an excuse to go early on the next gen. Which I really hope they don't. PSN premium is def not worth the price. The lowest teir isn't too bad, you do get some good months tbf. I only use the series X for gamepass and buy everything else on the PS. If ur thinking of not getting the next xbox and using gamepass through PC, u might be best starting to buying ur third-party games on PS. Have a good backlog ready for the PS6. 😂
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
@Millionski I main on the PS5 Pro, but all gamepass games I play on the series X. Last year, this year and next year are 🔥. The issue comes with how the 3rd parties are going to be allowed to release new "Xbox" consoles going forward. Like why would I buy a Xbox only for a new version to be released the following year. With all the Xbox games coming to Sony now, the need to have both or in fact an Xbox over a Playstation is greatly reduced. I don't have a need to access PC store fronts. So this innovation doesn't interest me.
Re: Xbox Hardware Isn't Dead But 'Big Changes' Are Coming, Says Digital Foundry
Have gamepass for another couple of years. So will be waiting to see what exactly their strategy will be. I'm hoping they do 1 more generation of their own console before switching to 3rd parties. If they do go down the 3rd party route I hope it is controlled and stops companies from just releaseing new ones every year or even worse just when they feel like it.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Set To Overtake 2024's Game Of The Year With Over 3 Million Sales On PS5
@Rafie @wildcat_kickz Knew there was something about the development of helldivers. Think they did the same with that rise of the ronin game. I was just saying maybe that why they've chosen to do it with this game. As it wasn't developed in house and isn't a god of war etc. Was also just saying I couldn't see a lot of other games going from Sony to Xbox no matter what happens.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Set To Overtake 2024's Game Of The Year With Over 3 Million Sales On PS5
@wildcat_kickz Def can see it being a test of the waters for Sony. Though even if it is successful, I'm not sure if they'll start moving all their games over. This was classed as a 3rd party game from them I believe. Since it wasn't developed in house.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Set To Overtake 2024's Game Of The Year With Over 3 Million Sales On PS5
A game like Horizon was desperately needed on the PS5. Can't see helldivers 2 doing those sorts of numbers. It could go as badly as that Final Fantasy game.
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
@Deshalu The Elder Scrolls Online director Matt Firor, who helped launch ZeniMax Online Studios in 2007, is leaving the company.
Gregg Mayles served as the creative director for Sea of Thieves. In total, Mayles has worked on nearly 30 games at Rare. He was moved over to be the director on Everwild in 2021.
While the games have been in development for a long time there's a lot that has gone on that we don't know about.
MS in terms of software have been on fire last year, this year and from what we've seen they won't be slowing down next year. To keep the flow of games coming I think they need not just staff but experienced staff. Also all the studios possible to help keep the games coming.
MS made how much money? So why do they need to get rid of staff?
All these redundancy exercises and this happens at other large companies not just at MS, are done not because they need to, but are done to get more profit and force people to do more work or "take on more responsibility to help grow their careers".
Re: Report: Multiple Industry Veterans To Leave Xbox Studios Amidst Layoffs
@Deshalu I could have sworn the elder scrolls online game was still going and it's latest expansion was shown at one of the shows. Similarly with sea of thieves... Ignore those games, squint a bit and ur right. One is just the studio president and the other has 35 years experience working as a game designer and has been a director on Rare's only game for how many years? It'll be fine though, interns and AI can replace them. 😀
Re: Xbox's Matt Booty Issues Statement On Layoffs And Game Cancellations
Madness. So they have a lot of games in the pipeline now, what about for the following year and next gen? They're betting all their money on AI.
Re: Xbox Next-Gen Console Plans 'Not Impacted' By Microsoft Layoffs
Will be impacted after the next console is released and then MS just get other companies to make "Xboxes". As with the rog handheld. 3rd party made it and then we heard that MS had cancelled their own handheld project. Have done the same with VR.
Re: Xbox Founding Member 'Not Pleased' With State Of The Brand In 2025
Xbox has def shifted into publisher rather than console manufacturer. The rog ally and meta quest is proof of that. Oh u have a product already can u stick some Xbox stuff on it for us and save us having to do it. They're on fire with the games but I honestly can't see MS creating their own console after this next generation. Like they've already dropped their own handheld hardware. The next gen console was probably too far along to drop. For me I have no interest in playing on PC again or having access to my steam library, if it's on the go or not with the rog ally. I certainly don't want to pay extra for the privilege.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Xbox In The Second Half Of The Year?
Less redundancies so they can keep up the amount of games they're releasing without relying on AI to make them all.
Re: Two New Black Ops 7 Game Modes Leaked Via Call Of Duty Xbox App
Blops6 kind of made me lose interest in COD tbh. Will give Blops7 a go since it's free on gamepass. Otherwise I would just be leaving it.
Re: Phil Spencer Hypes Up Clockwork Revolution Following Xbox Games Showcase Reveal
It looks stunning and was surprised it wasn't one of the most watched trailers on xbox YouTube. Def will be playing it day 1.
Re: Eight Games I Can't Wait To Play On The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld
Where are people mainly going to be playing this thing? Because a lot of the games listed are far better playing on a proper sized screen.
Re: Developer Reveals Surprisingly Critical Feedback After Launching On Xbox Game Pass
"he doesn't feel it's healthy for the industry to put titles on Xbox Game Pass at launch, and it hasn't led to the additional sales his team had originally hoped for."
Who the heck puts a game on a subscription service expecting it to lead to additional sales?
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
Ghost of Yotei is out in October as well!
It's just too much!
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
@JustinSane It's mind-boggling to think about the amount of must play games coming out. Next year is going to be a stunning year for Xbox. This year hasn't been too shabby either. 😂
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
From Xbox has no games to Xbox has too many games! 😂
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2025
@ZYDIO Was strange, had been playing fine at release then it started getting worse and worse. Which was why I had been thinking it might have been the was the wireless connection issue.
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2025
@ZYDIO Got COD working again. Just needed to uninstall and reinstall. 😂
Re: Phil Spencer Says 2026 Is Going To Be 'A Really Special Year' For Xbox
I didn't think they would release Forza Horizon 6 until the next console. Guess it'll just get an upgrade.
@TapeLoader Time also seems to speed up, which doesn't help with getting through the backlog to get playing all the new games coming out. 😂
Re: Xbox Quietly Releases New 4TB Expansion Card For Series X|S
@Kaloudz Yea u can switch games internal to external and back again. Far handier to actually have instant access to ur games rather than rotating them or sitting down wanting to play something and then have to wait while it copies over. The prices are really not on for these cards. MS decision has u locked in though so they can get away with it.
Re: Xbox Quietly Releases New 4TB Expansion Card For Series X|S
@Kaloudz Totally. They really need to do something especially with the size of games nowadays.
Re: Xbox Game Pass In 2026: The Full List Of Everything Announced So Far
Soo many great games, so little time. 😂 Gamepass really has been on fire! Started last year, continued into this year and it's not slowing down next year either.
Re: Xbox Quietly Releases New 4TB Expansion Card For Series X|S
@Kaloudz Hopefully Xbox goes down the route that Sony did with the PS5. Where u just buy sticks and install them. Far cheaper than having their own proprietary plug-in card. If it is going to be more PC like then they def need to make it like that.
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2025
@ZYDIO I was talking about hoping that my personal series X lasts the next couple of years. Multiplayer black ops 6 is unplayable, stuttering like mad. Even Forza Motorsport in career is stuttering quite a bit. Uninstalled and reinstalled black ops 6 so going to see if that has helped. As south of midnight had no issues. So not sure if it's GPU or the wireless network card. My launch series X had a faulty wireless card. So maybe I'm just unlucky!
Re: Call Of Duty Goes Co-Op With Black Ops 7, Coming To Xbox Game Pass This Year
If u can't play the campaign solo then that'll be a pass for me. Will probably just play some of the multiplayer.
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2025
Some really good games. Would have though fable or the new gears would have turned up. That keeper game looks nuts. 😂 Def a lot to look forward to, I just hope my series X can survive until the next gen.
Re: Last Chance! What Are Your Final Hopes For The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
Fable and Gears E-day probably 2 main ones.
Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Buying The 2025 Xbox Handheld From ASUS?
No, I have no need for a device like this.
Re: The Witcher 3 Xbox Controller Sells Out, Instantly Targeted By Scalpers
Poor scalpers living off scraps now. Just not having the same joy as they did during the pandemic. Remember hearing ones quitting their jobs to just sell PS5s forever believing that nothing would go back to normal.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Many Of You Are Buying A Switch 2?
Not something for me, doesn't offer anything I need.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox At Microsoft's 2025 Prices?
At this stage if my series X dies, I won't be replacing it. I'll just play 100% on my PS5 Pro and pick up the Xbox games (when on sale). My guess is everything is going to PS, so would then have to decide if I even get the next xbox. Though that's all theoretical, my series X is not going to break down. 🤞
Re: Talking Point: With Forza Horizon 5 Now On PS5, Do You Expect To See Horizon 6 Anytime Soon?
Horizon 6 = a launch title for the next xbox.