PS5 and series X is all u need for this generation. This is a minimal upgrade at a stupidly high price point. With that price maybe they're aiming to make people that are still to upgrade from last gen to go for the standard PS5. Oh look the standard PS5 is X that's def a lot better value than the pro model. Sony are also like hoping people just keep playing the games that are already out because they currently have nothing announced for next year.
Sony shouldn't have turned their backs on narrative driven single player games. Considering it's why they're in the position they're in. Most of Microsoft's big games that are coming out are mostly single player focused. Indy, Avowed, Fable etc. They have COD, halo and the forza games as their live service games.
@OldGamer999 Do any of the currently released games use the features? I haven't bought any of them on the PS5 because I play them as part of GPU so no point in paying twice for something. It's something that really should be implemented when moving to PS5. Also is there not a rumored new xbox controller with the same features being worked on. So could use it for testing.
Mafia was on PS+ last year, maybe even before then. But please bash Sony because it's now on GPU. 😂 I love GPU but please this generation has been awful for both series X and PS5 in regards to exclusives.
Though PlayStation exclusives are better than Xbox exclusives. For me anyway, I love single player story games. GoW, GoT, HFW, Ratchet and Clank.
Ghost of Tsushima was a PS4 release but dam it's amazing looking with the PS5 upgrade. It's also my favourite game of all time. The story and gameplay are just amazing and I've been informed I'm old now.
PS5 down on sales compared to PS4, can't remember the PS4 having a pandemic and economic issues affecting sales when it was released. People are a lot more careful with their money now. And rightly so, a lot of PS4 players have yet to upgrade. Same with xbox one!
Xbox sales are tanking! It's awful to see, because I used to skip Tec to play Halo on a jap import console at my local game.
Got a 360 on release and had to take it to my uni to display it at a show.
Xbox one I got after wrist surgery, because the controller was perfect to use while in a cast.
COD moving to GPU has made me go back to my series X. Forza Motorsport has improved ten fold since I played it on release. It, Halo, Gears and Forza horizon are my fave original Xbox exclusives. I've got GPU paid up until August 2026 thanks to MS reward points. Long may that continue as well as I've had GP and GPU since it was released and never paid full price for it.
The amount of exclusives coming out for xbox is unreal over the next couple of years. I would recommend people remember it hasn't always been like this.
@kuu_nousee Don't worry I know, I've had both Sony and MS consoles for the last 4 generations. My point is that getting gamepass onto playstation would mean that MS wouldn't need an Xbox. Sony are not letting it happen because it would affect their subscription service as well as impact the money they make from game sales as well.
Haven't played MW3 in a while on the PS5. Been back to Cold War on the XSX so will def download and play MW3 and see what it's like compared to the PS5 version. Since Blops 6 is out free on GPU I've switch my COD gaming to Xbox.
I have gamepass ultimate until mid 2026. A lot of it has been through the reward points. Plus the 3 years for £1 and converting EA play to GPU deal. With COD getting added it's going to save me £70 a year. So £140 saving until I need to extend my sub. Even then I'll just be saving the reward points up if they're cutting down the amount of time you can have stacked. Aside from just COD there are loads of other games coming out this year and in the future that are great savings as you don't need to buy them. EA play being part of it is good value as well. No need to buy EA games as they eventually get added. Will be dropping my PS plus sub down to extra when it expires next year as the premium level is not worth it.
COD being free and the show brought me back to collecting points. Loads of games I want to play and it saves a lot of money. Though saying that I don't think I've ever paid full price for GPU since it started. £1 deal and then switching EA sub for GPU. Plus using points for it.
Hadn't bothered with the point it in a while. Then switched my points for 9 months of GPU. Nearly got enough for another 3 months now. Def worth to keep doing just to get free GPU especially with all the games coming out. Got GPU up to mid 2026. So will keep collecting the points now.
Really cool thing they're doing. I'm hoping they'll do the same for horizon 5 when the time comes. It was the first Forza where I paid for the early access and DLC and not the game.
Thankfully had bought the ultimate edition back when it first was released. Though after replacing my series X a while ago, I checked last night and it had only downloaded the base game. So downloaded every add on I could. Don't think I've much left to do in the main game or the DLC packs but will check tonight and start playing it again. Now when Horizon 5 gets delisted that'll be fun as I have the base game through gamepass but paid for the early access and DLC packs. Probably will have to buy the base game.
Would only be getting one if my current series X breaks. If it does then I'd probably replace it with the 2TB galaxy black series X. Will not be getting any mid gen refreshes, if they're is announced. There's no need, the PS5 and series X are fine.
@OldGamer999 Yes, FH 4 was really good. Preferred it over 5 and possibly even 3. I have loads of nostalgia for 2 though. I'm not a fan of remakes, but would def be on board for FH 1and 2 to be done. Unfortunately with MS splitting the generation it's really affected what games can do.
Am I the only one that doesn't really care if the next horizon is in Japan. I'd love it to go back to Europe like horizon 2. Was playing it last night and it's still my favourite.
Horizon 2 is still the best horizon for me. I was off work for a while and just played loads of it. Want olto go back to it now thinking about it. Need to get through a lot of the backlog first though. 😂 This year's show has the same feeling as back then.
Can't see PGR ever coming back while Forza is still going. I thought the shadow drop was to be a new game? Hoping the new COD has the same feel as Cold War.
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Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Fondest Memories Of The Original Xbox?
Leaving tech to go and play a Japanese import console at the local game store.
Re: Sony's PS5 Pro Seems Unlikely To Get An Xbox Equivalent This Holiday
PS5 and series X is all u need for this generation. This is a minimal upgrade at a stupidly high price point. With that price maybe they're aiming to make people that are still to upgrade from last gen to go for the standard PS5. Oh look the standard PS5 is X that's def a lot better value than the pro model. Sony are also like hoping people just keep playing the games that are already out because they currently have nothing announced for next year.
Re: Xbox Game Pass In 2025: The Full List Of Everything Announced So Far
That's some amount of games. Some big games there. Also looking forward to Mixtape as The Artful Escape was really good.
Re: Poll: How Much Would You Pay For An Xbox Series X Pro?
No need at all for a mid-gen update this generation.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Focusing On 'Blockbuster Games' Should Be No Surprise After The Failure Of Concord
Sony shouldn't have turned their backs on narrative driven single player games. Considering it's why they're in the position they're in. Most of Microsoft's big games that are coming out are mostly single player focused. Indy, Avowed, Fable etc. They have COD, halo and the forza games as their live service games.
Re: Obsidian Confirms That Avowed Runs At 30FPS On Xbox Series X|S
@PsBoxSwitchOwner Forza always looks fine for me. Think people just make a big deal out of it.
Re: Obsidian Confirms That Avowed Runs At 30FPS On Xbox Series X|S
😂😂😂 People not going to play the game because it's "only" 30 fps. How did we survive and play games before 60 fps arrived?
Re: Xbox Lists 'Announced' First Party Games In New Social Media Graphic
Blops 6, Indy, Astro Bot and Avowed will see me through winter.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Preview - MachineGames' Latest Xbox Adventure Is Looking Whip-Smart
@OldGamer999 Do any of the currently released games use the features? I haven't bought any of them on the PS5 because I play them as part of GPU so no point in paying twice for something. It's something that really should be implemented when moving to PS5. Also is there not a rumored new xbox controller with the same features being worked on. So could use it for testing.
Re: Xbox Shows Off Extended Footage From Raven Software's Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6 Campaign
It looks good, hopefully will be as good as Cold War.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Mafia: Definitive Edition On Xbox Game Pass?
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Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Mafia: Definitive Edition On Xbox Game Pass?
Im gonna get stick for this but..
Mafia was on PS+ last year, maybe even before then. But please bash Sony because it's now on GPU. 😂 I love GPU but please this generation has been awful for both series X and PS5 in regards to exclusives.
Though PlayStation exclusives are better than Xbox exclusives. For me anyway, I love single player story games. GoW, GoT, HFW, Ratchet and Clank.
Ghost of Tsushima was a PS4 release but dam it's amazing looking with the PS5 upgrade. It's also my favourite game of all time. The story and gameplay are just amazing and I've been informed I'm old now.
PS5 down on sales compared to PS4, can't remember the PS4 having a pandemic and economic issues affecting sales when it was released. People are a lot more careful with their money now. And rightly so, a lot of PS4 players have yet to upgrade. Same with xbox one!
Xbox sales are tanking! It's awful to see, because I used to skip Tec to play Halo on a jap import console at my local game.
Got a 360 on release and had to take it to my uni to display it at a show.
Xbox one I got after wrist surgery, because the controller was perfect to use while in a cast.
COD moving to GPU has made me go back to my series X. Forza Motorsport has improved ten fold since I played it on release. It, Halo, Gears and Forza horizon are my fave original Xbox exclusives. I've got GPU paid up until August 2026 thanks to MS reward points. Long may that continue as well as I've had GP and GPU since it was released and never paid full price for it.
The amount of exclusives coming out for xbox is unreal over the next couple of years. I would recommend people remember it hasn't always been like this.
Re: Xbox Insider Insists Forza Horizon 5 Will Go Multiplatform At Some Point
@StylesT Gamepass Ultimate console
Re: Xbox Shares Updated Release Schedule For Major Upcoming Games
Blops 6 and Indy will do fine for me for this year. Can wait a bit longer for Avowed.
Re: Xbox Console Sales Struggling As Hardware Revenue Nosedives At Microsoft
@kuu_nousee Don't worry I know, I've had both Sony and MS consoles for the last 4 generations. My point is that getting gamepass onto playstation would mean that MS wouldn't need an Xbox. Sony are not letting it happen because it would affect their subscription service as well as impact the money they make from game sales as well.
Re: Microsoft Harkens Back To OG Xbox With This New Transparent Xbox Series X|S Controller
Dam that's a good looking controller! Tempted to order but I really don't need it.
Re: Xbox Console Sales Struggling As Hardware Revenue Nosedives At Microsoft
If they could get gamepass onto PlayStation that would be it for the Xbox console.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Call Of Duty: MW3 On Xbox Game Pass So Far?
@DukeeDukems That's the difference! Forgot the PS5 doesn't have dolby vision.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Call Of Duty: MW3 On Xbox Game Pass So Far?
Been a while since I played the PS5 version, but think it looks better on the series X.
Re: Reliable Leaker 'Confirms' Xbox Game Pass Date For Call Of Duty: MW3
Haven't played MW3 in a while on the PS5. Been back to Cold War on the XSX so will def download and play MW3 and see what it's like compared to the PS5 version. Since Blops 6 is out free on GPU I've switch my COD gaming to Xbox.
Re: EA Sports FC 25 Brings 'Rush' Football To Xbox This September
Will just wait for it to be added to GPU via EA play.
Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6 Multiplayer Open Beta Dates Revealed
Boo! The dates suck for me. I'm only going to get playing 1 day of the early access and hopefully 2 days of the open beta.
Re: Three Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Late July 2024
Will start a short hike as my daily achievement going forward
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's Constant Tweaking Of Xbox Game Pass Is Becoming Exhausting
Gamepass goes up by £2 a month, wild panic spreads and discussions of switching to PC. 😂
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's Constant Tweaking Of Xbox Game Pass Is Becoming Exhausting
Should have change the core teir name as well:
Gamepass basic
Gamepass standard
Gamepass ultimate
Re: Xbox Game Pass Gets Price Increases And New 'Standard' Subscription Tier
I have gamepass ultimate until mid 2026. A lot of it has been through the reward points. Plus the 3 years for £1 and converting EA play to GPU deal. With COD getting added it's going to save me £70 a year. So £140 saving until I need to extend my sub. Even then I'll just be saving the reward points up if they're cutting down the amount of time you can have stacked. Aside from just COD there are loads of other games coming out this year and in the future that are great savings as you don't need to buy them. EA play being part of it is good value as well. No need to buy EA games as they eventually get added. Will be dropping my PS plus sub down to extra when it expires next year as the premium level is not worth it.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Are You Getting On With Microsoft Rewards In 2024?
COD being free and the show brought me back to collecting points. Loads of games I want to play and it saves a lot of money. Though saying that I don't think I've ever paid full price for GPU since it started. £1 deal and then switching EA sub for GPU. Plus using points for it.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, How Are You Getting On With Microsoft Rewards In 2024?
Hadn't bothered with the point it in a while. Then switched my points for 9 months of GPU. Nearly got enough for another 3 months now. Def worth to keep doing just to get free GPU especially with all the games coming out. Got GPU up to mid 2026. So will keep collecting the points now.
Re: Xbox Is Giving Away Free Forza Horizon 4 Codes For Eligible Players
Really cool thing they're doing. I'm hoping they'll do the same for horizon 5 when the time comes. It was the first Forza where I paid for the early access and DLC and not the game.
Re: Ubisoft Is Making Multiple Assassin's Creed Remakes Alongside New Series Entries
We heard everyone is buying remakes this generation, so we're going to just keep remaking everything to sell the same game again and again.
Re: Forza Horizon 4 Explodes In Popularity Ahead Of Big Xbox Sale Next Month
Thankfully had bought the ultimate edition back when it first was released. Though after replacing my series X a while ago, I checked last night and it had only downloaded the base game. So downloaded every add on I could. Don't think I've much left to do in the main game or the DLC packs but will check tonight and start playing it again. Now when Horizon 5 gets delisted that'll be fun as I have the base game through gamepass but paid for the early access and DLC packs. Probably will have to buy the base game.
Re: The Coalition Continues To Hype Up Gears Of War: E-Day With New Message In Gears 5
@Savage_Joe OK, so you think I'm literally having flashbacks?
Should change ur name to serious Joe, no jokes allowed.
Re: The Coalition Continues To Hype Up Gears Of War: E-Day With New Message In Gears 5
@Savage_Joe I was making a joke in my original post. Don't have to get ur knickers in a twist about it.
Re: The Coalition Continues To Hype Up Gears Of War: E-Day With New Message In Gears 5
@TakeItEasy @Savage_Joe
Are u guys actually serious?
Re: The Coalition Continues To Hype Up Gears Of War: E-Day With New Message In Gears 5
"Built from the ground up"
Getting flashbacks reading that.
Forza wasn't great when it first released, so hopefully they've learnt from that.
Re: Review: Still Wakes The Deep (Xbox) - Nautical Narrative Adventure Perfect For Xbox Game Pass
@Mustoe It's not free everywhere, on PlayStation it's £30. So should all games coming to gamepass not be reviewed?
Re: Review: Still Wakes The Deep (Xbox) - Nautical Narrative Adventure Perfect For Xbox Game Pass
Def going to give this a go. I always turn off motion blur and chromatic aberration on every game I can.
Re: Reminder: Five Games Are Leaving Xbox Game Pass This Weekend
Finished Bookwalker and surprisingly enjoyed it. Not something I would normally play. Played a bit of high on life, should have played it more though.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Interested In Any Of The New Xbox Series X|S Models?
Would only be getting one if my current series X breaks. If it does then I'd probably replace it with the 2TB galaxy black series X. Will not be getting any mid gen refreshes, if they're is announced. There's no need, the PS5 and series X are fine.
Re: Forza Horizon Fans, The Crew Motorfest Could Be Well Worth Checking Out Later This Year
Played this a while ago it is good, but yea it's not Horizon.
@EU_Gamer I too like to disconnect my Internet connected device to play games.
Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6 Will Require A 'Continuous' Internet Connection (Yes, Even Campaign)
Guess what's going to happen when the next xbox comes out and requires a constant connection all the time because it'll be using the cloud.
@Dimey Gamepass is just renting games. Also dony buy the new top spin. Seen something about it becoming unplayable in Jan 2026.
Re: Obsidian's Avowed Appears To Be Coming To Xbox This November
@somnambulance Just buy gamepass. 👍
Re: Xbox Game Pass Upgrade Detailed For Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6
Saving £70 this year thanks to this being on gamepass.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2024?
Was a great show. Xbox with all the games and they all look great. 2nd year in a row showing up Sony. COD looks to have been properly improved.
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2024: Date, Start Times, Rumours, Leaks & More
@OldGamer999 Yes, FH 4 was really good. Preferred it over 5 and possibly even 3. I have loads of nostalgia for 2 though. I'm not a fan of remakes, but would def be on board for FH 1and 2 to be done. Unfortunately with MS splitting the generation it's really affected what games can do.
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2024: Date, Start Times, Rumours, Leaks & More
Can't wait for this show. Hoping and expecting to be blown away. Especially after the awful Sony and SGF.
Re: Xbox Games Showcase 2024: Date, Start Times, Rumours, Leaks & More
Am I the only one that doesn't really care if the next horizon is in Japan. I'd love it to go back to Europe like horizon 2. Was playing it last night and it's still my favourite.
Re: UFL Open Beta Review (Xbox): A Surprisingly Fun Football Game With A Lot Of Potential
I just hate ultimate team and all that. Give me a good single player career mode and I'm happy.
Re: Talking Point: 10 Years Ago, Phil Spencer's First E3 In Charge Marked A Turning Point For Xbox
Horizon 2 is still the best horizon for me. I was off work for a while and just played loads of it. Want olto go back to it now thinking about it. Need to get through a lot of the backlog first though. 😂 This year's show has the same feeling as back then.
Re: Our Predictions For The 2024 Xbox Games Showcase
Can't see PGR ever coming back while Forza is still going. I thought the shadow drop was to be a new game? Hoping the new COD has the same feel as Cold War.