I was really looking forward to Redfall, the premise sounded great. I figured I'd give them some time to iron out the rough release, just started it today.......... .... Oh my goodness is it bad, really bad ...I read all about this not being a passion product but this game is still a mess in SO MANY WAYS. I have to wonder if there is any talent left, any at all.
I'm about 12 hrs in, I think the initial wonder has worn off, the AI is bad, I went to explore the New Atlantis country side,my god the textures are so bad.Its jarring textures from my ship to the planet. The menus are beyond terrible, good grief they are bad. I'm really disappointed so far. Bouncing on the moon was a blast! 7/10 right now.
So far it's been everything I could have hoped for, sucks that PS owners are missing out. This game is why I bought my Series X 2 years ago and I've loved it, a huge fan of the ecosystem and its only getting better
Work has been a stressful nightmare, so I took a few minutes to read the Destructoid review. Oh my dear God..... It reads like it was written by a 16 year fanboy/girl. It's actually really bad.
Something tells me this is more of that 8.5-9 type of game which is exactly what I hoped for!
Destructoid giving this a 10 is a very good sign IF it had been Chris........ignore GS as usual. IGN only giving a 7 is a tad concerning though, especially Dan who is pretty lenient......
@Kaloudz My memory had not held up very well, but I seem to recall Zenimax being a tad petty with outlets over the years and seemingly holding grudges.
You don't find it a little bit weird they would exclude an Xbox fan site?
I'm a diehard classical music/opera/jazz fan and so I was a tiny bit apprehensive, but it's actually well done. Not quite Dragonborn levels of wow, but not bad.
Sweet! I realize it's just good business 1st, but Todd Howard's thank yous actually come across as genuine. With how long he's been at this(which is rare, to stick with one company in this field) it does seem like true passion in his end
@PsBoxSwitchOwner I think this is Ultimately the biggest driving factor, both sub models have peaked, and this is the only short term revenue model that will increase profits
@FraserG This all still weirdly feels like some bizarre fallout from Kotaku(??), those couple years back. IT makes ZERO sense, too exclude an Xbox centric game site
My gosh, I still haven't played Hogwarts or RE 4, and Bethesda always takes 300-500 hours of my life. Still haven't purchased TOTK, Spiderman2 might really nail it too , 2077 expansion. This gaming hobby is killing it right now.
@Stoned_Patrol I truly don't get why MS and PS haven't done more special editions by now. The Series are such minimalist designs it should be easy to mass produce cool designs, and PS has a LOT of surface area. Kind of sucks
@Lup I actually had these in my Steam cart ready to go and forgot to buy them 🤦so was going to just grab them on Xbox, but the recent reviews are full of save corruptions, crashing and other issues.🤷
@sixrings I can't recall a game I played that didn't have a mute option. I'll really never understand the hoopla with this. Humanity is mean, especially if they are anonymous....... Just mute em 🤷♂️
Kind of off topic, but since this thread is loaded with GP users, how is RedFall doing? I recall seeing that big patch, but nothing since- Is it still in that needs several more patches phase? Thanks iff anyone knows
@BeerIsAwesome Im honestly surprised, I thought they might slink away and just do "enough" to get by. I've almost bought this at 20 several times, think I'll just keep waiting and hoping it ends decently
This is actually pretty cool, compared to PS new custom, which looks like a dozen 4yr Olds were given stickers and crayons and told to slap stuff anywhere
I know others have touched on it, but F.I.S.T. is really good. Especially if you have gamepass I think this is a must play. If you don't it's worth picking up full price
@themightyant This will happen though, it's that slow burn that Phil is actually REALLY good at. Gamers are stubborn creatures if you force something. However if you drip fed the idea, - early access Starfield when you are paying already for"day one through Gamepass" for a fee", the outrage has actually been pretty muted for what is a gross idea. Next they can take Fable and say only on gamepass but pay "X/Y" to play early", the outcry now and more muted.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner
I simply don't get why people cheer this digital only idea. Look at Nintendo, they are a window into this singular economy system. You pay what we want and you'll like it, we might throw a discount maybe.... You can't turn around and say I'll just grab it on X, or PS because it's cheaper or get it on pc down the road(kind of dense comparison for 1st party,but close enough)
@Kienda @ZuneTattooGuy I think it's a bigger deal on console because they are closed eco systems. There is no valve, gmg,gog, epic, etc. You destroy any competitive secondary market by taking away physical- it is not in any way agois thing that people should be cheering
@PixelDragon That's a good point, however that itself presents a very strong counter point to all digital on console. Choice. All digital on PC was viable because you had multiple markets at least, where they can't brute force a price through
Have to give credit where credit is due. They pulled it off by slapping a Xbox "brand" on the extremely aggressive DRM and the fans have defended it voraciously.
Like those defending putting a sliver of paper in a giant piece of useless plastic instead of using it as a disc holder in the case of Starfield- I really hope really good that isn't true
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's 7-8 years. Development for standard games is taking 5 years, and this is a Bethesda gameand with the Starfield delay who knows when actual development truly started That is really really discouraging. I actually kind of hope they keep it one platform simply to shave off some dev time. Man that is really crazy
I want MS thriving because their studios are doing things to make people say I have to join that Ecosystem because their catalog is amazing and what I can't get on PS. Not because well they bought the games I love, and I have no choice.
I find it really odd that Xbox super fans think this is in any way a good idea to have this merger go through. It's not healthy for gaming long term. We also have yet to see Xbox show that they benefit developers in any meaningful way. We can argue their infinite pocket books helped Zenimax further fund delays, but zenimax is not exactly a small broke company. I mean Bethesda used their own in house developer to help with Starfield, and we all saw how grossly mismanaged Halo was.
All these franchises which carry massive massive developers costs are losing a HUGE amounts of revenue being part of a 15 dollar monthly program instead of 45 dollar returns on sold games
I just can't see this being a good thing long term
This was probably my biggest disappointment of fully commiting into the Xbox ecosystem. It reviewed pretty well too with gaming sites, the first 2 hours were kind of the "Finally I'm not missing out on a new Halo!" 3 hours later, all I could think was this feels like an empty Far Cry world with slightly better gunplay.
I can say without a doubt I have not been this excited about a game since Skyrim.i still vividly remember them showing that you could duel wield magic and a sword and going out to buy a new PC that week. -700+ hours later between PC and PS5.
FO4 just didn't hit that sweetspot though I still had a blast.- Kudos to the music director including classical guitar music that did drop my jaw
This just feels so much more Bethesfa, PS5 night get ignored a bit.
Will be super curious to see if the SteamDeck can pull anything off
My guy, passion is a fantastic way to express yourself. But you are spewing a lot of the same vitriol you are so upset about, on more than just this topic.
What you are doing is not a healthy way to express yourself.
As a mental health provider giving out advice in gaming threads to an unknown actual person
Take a step back and refrain from posting, or have your wife read them out loud to you before slapping post
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Re: Deals: All 10+ Backwards Compatible Games In This Week's Xbox Sales (October 3-10)
@shoeses
Still my favorite Far Cry and possibly FPS ever, man I love this game!
Re: New Xbox Game Pass Title 'Cocoon' Is Getting Outstanding Reviews
@Sol4ris
Just stop already, for the love of pete give it a rest.
🤦
Re: Soapbox: After Redfall's Reception, I Really Hope The Dishonored 3 Leak Is Real
I was really looking forward to Redfall, the premise sounded great. I figured I'd give them some time to iron out the rough release, just started it today.......... .... Oh my goodness is it bad, really bad ...I read all about this not being a passion product but this game is still a mess in SO MANY WAYS. I have to wonder if there is any talent left, any at all.
Re: Eight Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Late September 2023
@InheritNegative I bought it new for 8, after all the patches and absolutely loved it. To bad it didn't land better
Re: Poll: Based On What You've Played So Far, What Score Would You Give Starfield?
I'm about 12 hrs in, I think the initial wonder has worn off, the AI is bad, I went to explore the New Atlantis country side,my god the textures are so bad.Its jarring textures from my ship to the planet. The menus are beyond terrible, good grief they are bad. I'm really disappointed so far.
Bouncing on the moon was a blast!
7/10 right now.
Re: Ready For Launch! Starfield Is Now Available On Xbox Game Pass
So far it's been everything I could have hoped for, sucks that PS owners are missing out.
This game is why I bought my Series X 2 years ago and I've loved it, a huge fan of the ecosystem and its only getting better
This game is so so so amazing!
Re: Trepang2 Is An 'Outrageously Violent' Single-Player FPS Coming To Xbox This October
@__jamiie This is literally the first thing that I thought as well, it really does the whole vibe of it
Re: Poll: Starfield Explorers, What Do You Think Of Fast Travel So Far?
@PureXbox,
Just a heads up but that coupon code is not working anymore.
Re: Bethesda Insists Redfall Will Improve, Compares Launch To Fallout 76 And Elder Scrolls Online
The bonkers thing is that it's stayed around 70 for the physical copies.
I was pretty excited about the " Salems Lot, Far Cry" but everything I've read is that this game is still just not good.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think Of Starfield So Far
@SacredPYRO
I usually love reading Destructoid to, all kinds of weird.
Hope you enjoy!
Mine isn't coming until the 6th, just glad people are playing Bethesda again
Re: It's Time! Starfield Early Access Is Now Available On Xbox & PC
Only just a little tiny bit jealous, still have a week to go.
Enjoy it folks!
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think Of Starfield So Far
Work has been a stressful nightmare, so I took a few minutes to read the Destructoid review. Oh my dear God..... It reads like it was written by a 16 year fanboy/girl. It's actually really bad.
Something tells me this is more of that 8.5-9 type of game which is exactly what I hoped for!
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think Of Starfield So Far
Destructoid giving this a 10 is a very good sign IF it had been Chris........ignore GS as usual.
IGN only giving a 7 is a tad concerning though, especially Dan who is pretty lenient......
Hmmmmm
Re: Starfield Release Date, Release Times & Preload Details On Xbox & PC
@Kaloudz My memory had not held up very well, but I seem to recall Zenimax being a tad petty with outlets over the years and seemingly holding grudges.
You don't find it a little bit weird they would exclude an Xbox fan site?
Re: Starfield 'Children Of The Sky' Music Video Is Here, And It's Giving Us The Chills
I'm a diehard classical music/opera/jazz fan and so I was a tiny bit apprehensive, but it's actually well done. Not quite Dragonborn levels of wow, but not bad.
Re: Get Ready For Starfield With This New Xbox Series X|S Dynamic Background
Sweet! I realize it's just good business 1st, but Todd Howard's thank yous actually come across as genuine. With how long he's been at this(which is rare, to stick with one company in this field) it does seem like true passion in his end
Re: PlayStation Plus Joins Xbox Game Pass In Raising Subscription Prices
@Fenbops Pushsquare has great articles and reviews to. Broaden the gaming worldview, except for Nintendo Life, scary place that
Re: PlayStation Plus Joins Xbox Game Pass In Raising Subscription Prices
@PsBoxSwitchOwner
I think this is Ultimately the biggest driving factor, both sub models have peaked, and this is the only short term revenue model that will increase profits
Re: Xbox 'End Of Summer' Sale Now Live, Almost 1000 Games Discounted
@tallythwack agreed, looked great on the X too!
Re: Starfield Release Date, Release Times & Preload Details On Xbox & PC
@NeutronBomb Ugh, nothing like years of built up impatience and excitement to sweet talk you into it ...
Re: Starfield Release Date, Release Times & Preload Details On Xbox & PC
@Weebleman
I'm super curious what DF and EGs reviews will look like, this review release period should be entertaining!
Re: Starfield Release Date, Release Times & Preload Details On Xbox & PC
@BBB ha ha. I had to buy some things on Amazon and well..........I pre-ordered it, going against all my video game morals to not preorder
I'm mad at myself
Re: Starfield Release Date, Release Times & Preload Details On Xbox & PC
@FraserG
This all still weirdly feels like some bizarre fallout from Kotaku(??), those couple years back.
IT makes ZERO sense, too exclude an Xbox centric game site
Somebody at Zenimax really hates Reedpop.....
Still looking forward to the review!
Re: Starfield Release Date, Release Times & Preload Details On Xbox & PC
So EG is finally getting review code, I don't suppose @Purexbox.com was part of the email chain?
I think even PCGAMER got review code, Zenimax can be unbelievably thick headed about this stuff
Re: Stalker 2 'Bolts & Bullets' Trailer Showcases Plenty Of First-Person Gameplay
Ah!!!!!!! So much goodness for gaming lately. [
Re: Starfield Xbox Game Pass Release Times Confirmed By Bethesda
@PJOReilly
Wow, I didn't realize this..... you guys were going to be the 1st review I looked at before I slunk the cash down
This is kind of crappy Zenimax....
Re: Starfield Has Officially Gone Gold, Xbox & PC Preload Dates Revealed
@J_Mo_Money
My gosh, I still haven't played Hogwarts or RE 4, and Bethesda always takes 300-500 hours of my life. Still haven't purchased TOTK, Spiderman2 might really nail it too , 2077 expansion. This gaming hobby is killing it right now.
Re: Xbox Has Officially Created 'The World’s First Ever Pizza-Scented Controller'
@Stoned_Patrol I truly don't get why MS and PS haven't done more special editions by now. The Series are such minimalist designs it should be easy to mass produce cool designs, and PS has a LOT of surface area. Kind of sucks
Re: All 80+ Backwards Compatible Games In The Xbox Ultimate Game Sale 2023
@Lup I actually had these in my Steam cart ready to go and forgot to buy them 🤦so was going to just grab them on Xbox, but the recent reviews are full of save corruptions, crashing and other issues.🤷
Re: New Xbox Feature Will Allow You To Report Inappropriate Voice Chats
@sixrings
I can't recall a game I played that didn't have a mute option. I'll really never understand the hoopla with this.
Humanity is mean, especially if they are anonymous....... Just mute em 🤷♂️
Re: Immortals Of Aveum Unveils New 'Unpacked' Trailer Ahead Of August's Xbox Launch
I don't know why, but I can't see this as a modern game. It weirdly looks like a 360/PS3 game revved up to 1000.
I really hope it's good, but I swear that lady does intros for all the AAA letdowns-i seriously think she's video game doom
Re: Talking Point: Have You Ever Taken A 'Day Off' For Something Xbox Related?
Not yet, I may have to fit Starfield though.
I may have faked being too sick for school so that I could spend all day playing FF7 on PS1 once or twice.....
Re: Xbox Game Pass Is Now Officially More Expensive In Most Countries
Kind of off topic, but since this thread is loaded with GP users, how is RedFall doing? I recall seeing that big patch, but nothing since- Is it still in that needs several more patches phase?
Thanks iff anyone knows
Re: Saints Row's Second Expansion Adds 'New Birmingham Island' As Free Circus-Themed Area
@BeerIsAwesome Im honestly surprised, I thought they might slink away and just do "enough" to get by.
I've almost bought this at 20 several times, think I'll just keep waiting and hoping it ends decently
Re: Xbox Is Giving Away A Barbie Console & Free Forza Horizon 5 Content
This is actually pretty cool, compared to PS new custom, which looks like a dozen 4yr Olds were given stickers and crayons and told to slap stuff anywhere
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (June 27)
I know others have touched on it, but F.I.S.T. is really good. Especially if you have gamepass I think this is a must play. If you don't it's worth picking up full price
Re: Does Starfield Include A Disc? Bethesda Causes Confusion With Contradictory Tweets
@themightyant
This will happen though, it's that slow burn that Phil is actually REALLY good at. Gamers are stubborn creatures if you force something. However if you drip fed the idea, - early access Starfield when you are paying already for"day one through Gamepass" for a fee", the outrage has actually been pretty muted for what is a gross idea. Next they can take Fable and say only on gamepass but pay "X/Y" to play early", the outcry now and more muted.
Re: Does Starfield Include A Disc? Bethesda Causes Confusion With Contradictory Tweets
@PsBoxSwitchOwner
I simply don't get why people cheer this digital only idea. Look at Nintendo, they are a window into this singular economy system. You pay what we want and you'll like it, we might throw a discount maybe.... You can't turn around and say I'll just grab it on X, or PS because it's cheaper or get it on pc down the road(kind of dense comparison for 1st party,but close enough)
Re: Does Starfield Include A Disc? Bethesda Causes Confusion With Contradictory Tweets
@Kienda @ZuneTattooGuy
I think it's a bigger deal on console because they are closed eco systems. There is no valve, gmg,gog, epic, etc. You destroy any competitive secondary market by taking away physical- it is not in any way agois thing that people should be cheering
Re: Does Starfield Include A Disc? Bethesda Causes Confusion With Contradictory Tweets
@PixelDragon
That's a good point, however that itself presents a very strong counter point to all digital on console. Choice. All digital on PC was viable because you had multiple markets at least, where they can't brute force a price through
Re: Does Starfield Include A Disc? Bethesda Causes Confusion With Contradictory Tweets
@FleaBag_11
Ya the movie argument is bizarre. They are still very much so releasing movies on disk, a lot of folks still buy blu rays
Re: Does Starfield Include A Disc? Bethesda Causes Confusion With Contradictory Tweets
@PixelDragon
Have to give credit where credit is due. They pulled it off by slapping a Xbox "brand" on the extremely aggressive DRM and the fans have defended it voraciously.
Like those defending putting a sliver of paper in a giant piece of useless plastic instead of using it as a disc holder in the case of Starfield- I really hope really good that isn't true
Re: The Elder Scrolls 6 Is At Least 'Five-Plus Years Away', Platforms Still TBD
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's 7-8 years.
Development for standard games is taking 5 years, and this is a Bethesda gameand with the Starfield delay who knows when actual development truly started That is really really discouraging. I actually kind of hope they keep it one platform simply to shave off some dev time. Man that is really crazy
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
I want MS thriving because their studios are doing things to make people say I have to join that Ecosystem because their catalog is amazing and what I can't get on PS. Not because well they bought the games I love, and I have no choice.
Re: Microsoft Is Literally Now Saying That Xbox Has 'Lost The Console Wars'
I find it really odd that Xbox super fans think this is in any way a good idea to have this merger go through. It's not healthy for gaming long term. We also have yet to see Xbox show that they benefit developers in any meaningful way. We can argue their infinite pocket books helped Zenimax further fund delays, but zenimax is not exactly a small broke company. I mean Bethesda used their own in house developer to help with Starfield, and we all saw how grossly mismanaged Halo was.
All these franchises which carry massive massive developers costs are losing a HUGE amounts of revenue being part of a 15 dollar monthly program instead of 45 dollar returns on sold games
I just can't see this being a good thing long term
Re: 343 Industries: Halo Infinite's 'Consistency' Has Improved, But 'Quality' Needs More Work
This was probably my biggest disappointment of fully commiting into the Xbox ecosystem. It reviewed pretty well too with gaming sites, the first 2 hours were kind of the "Finally I'm not missing out on a new Halo!" 3 hours later, all I could think was this feels like an empty Far Cry world with slightly better gunplay.
Re: Poll: What Score Do You Think You'll Be Giving Starfield In September?
If Arkane can add a little magic to Redfall, I'll be set for shooters for a good minute, Cyberpunk DLC too, what a time to game
So much goodness
Re: Poll: What Score Do You Think You'll Be Giving Starfield In September?
I can say without a doubt I have not been this excited about a game since Skyrim.i still vividly remember them showing that you could duel wield magic and a sword and going out to buy a new PC that week. -700+ hours later between PC and PS5.
FO4 just didn't hit that sweetspot though I still had a blast.- Kudos to the music director including classical guitar music that did drop my jaw
This just feels so much more Bethesfa, PS5 night get ignored a bit.
Will be super curious to see if the SteamDeck can pull anything off
Re: Poll: What Score Do You Think You'll Be Giving Starfield In September?
@NEStalgia
Might have laughed too hard at that.
Kudos!
Re: Digital Foundry Posts Huge Breakdown On Why Starfield Runs At 30FPS On Xbox
@Zoidpilot4
My guy, passion is a fantastic way to express yourself.
But you are spewing a lot of the same vitriol you are so upset about, on more than just this topic.
What you are doing is not a healthy way to express yourself.
As a mental health provider giving out advice in gaming threads to an unknown actual person
Take a step back and refrain from posting, or have your wife read them out loud to you before slapping post