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@Fiendish-Beaver they weren’t charging £80, they were charging £70 (which is the equivalent of $80 minus tax) and still are. They haven’t dropped the price a single penny in UK. Boo 😒

Still the same price on UK store. So cheers for that Microsoft, guess we’re not deemed worthy. And yes, even after VAT is removed £70 RRP (£58.33 pre-tax) converts to $80 (well $79 to be exact). So yeah, I’m not very impressed honestly.

Marmite game then, as soulslikes tend to be. Bit concerned about the PS5 performance issues they mention, presumably will be the same for XSX. Well, I suppose this is where I wheel out the classic ‘nothing to lose as it’s on Game Pass’ observation. Fingers crossed I enjoy it. I’ve enjoyed other soulslikes with mixed critical reception such as Code Vein, so it’s entirely possible I could fall in love with this.

@WildConcept6 during covid my brother and I were playing loads of online coop games to pass time in lockdowns. We eventually ran out of games on Switch. At the time my brother didn’t have a PC but he really wanted to play Borderlands 3. So he got an XSS. The game didn’t support crossplay at the time, in fact most games didn’t back in 2021. So he convinced me to get a XSS myself and offered to partly pay for it as a birthday present. I was reluctant at first, but I also wanted to continue playing games online with him so I conceded.

Then I very quickly fell in love with console gaming again in terms of relaxing on the sofa in front of the TV with a controller. It was a nice, cosy experience. So I quickly upgraded to XSX, as did my brother too. Then I invested in a fancy OLED TV, which increased the appeal even more. XSX had fixed my biggest critiques of consoles - HDDs and mostly 30fps games. It also massively helped that Microsoft Rewards was on fire back then and I was easily earning £25/month in those golden days! I was able to ‘buy’ so many games for free.

My PC has since been used for games that don’t show up on Xbox (unfortunately a fair number of these as this article demonstrates) and games which run considerably better on PC (Plague Tale: Requiem and Hellblade II before they got 60fps patches) or games that just play better with mouse & keyboard. The reason I don’t use my PC in the living room is because Windows 11 is just so utterly mouse & keyboard dependent in its current form.

@WildConcept6 I had an original Xbox as a kid, but kept using it for the first half of the 360 generation as we were a poorer household so were behind the times. Then I switched to PC in the latter half of the 360 gen and remained so all throughout the One era. I only returned to Xbox in early 2021!

They’re absolutely fine, they don’t bother me at all. In fact, I quite like them even. I left them enabled.

Unlike the cloud history nonsense that they’ve just announced. I dislike that concept greatly. They absolutely should make that optional too.

It’s great knowing I won’t ever have to worry about buying the wrong version of a game, which is entirely possible on Switch 2 (where I had to triple check I was buying the correct version of Sonic x Shadow Generations).

Reading that I’m confused why they didn’t offer a VRR mode from the outset? Oh well, better late than never. The game plays significantly better at higher framerates, I played at ~50-60fps on my PC. Light years superior to the 30fps experience.

Can’t go a month without some game skipping Xbox or being majorly delayed on this platform. It’s exhausting :/

@Gabrie that’s definitely the feedback I’ll be sending once it arrives on the beta ring. Just give us a choice Microsoft, easy way to please all.

@Gabrie but I’ll have to sacrifice one of my precious game tiles for this useless folder that’ll be just full of cloud junk.

I won’t be able to check it out at launch because I’m going to a music festival that weekend (first world problems eh?) but I’m eagerly anticipating the reviews for this one. Hope it’s a good one!

December is decent timing too. I know it’s intended to promote the new film, but it means it stays well clear of obvious co-op competition in the form of Borderlands 4 and other big single player releases like Metroid Prime 4. I’ll keep it on my wishlist until then and may very well pick it up in the winter sale.

Hopefully we can disable this. I don’t want cloud games to show up on my console. I only use cloud to farm Rewards quest points by loading up all sorts of weird and wacky games on the iPad for the required 15 minute daily runtime. This will just clutter up my console with a load of nonsense!

Probably a 10 year long deal I’d wager. Back in 2020 Microsoft expected Game Pass to take over the world, so they would’ve been confident in signing such a long term agreement.

Wuchang hype! Well, I hope it’s good 🤞

Fingers crossed Wuchang is good. The trailers look promising 🤞

I recently purchased Lies of P: Overture so yeah I still buy games. Why would I let a bunch of corporate lackeys at a soulless trillion dollar company dictate and micromanage my gaming habits? Eww no. Game Pass is an accessory to my gaming life, not the centrepiece.

Yay no more adverts on dashboard for movies and TV. That’s an absolute win!

Edit: okay I scrolled down and it doesn’t quite make as much difference as I was hoping, as they still have a giant ‘watch and listen’ ad spot for streaming apps. Still, less advertising is just always an unequivocal positive. It’s a games console, keep it gaming focused. Movies and TV almost killed Xbox in 2013 - so good riddance I say.

I, for one, welcome Further Miyazaki Content with open arms!

I don’t plan on buying anything in this sale. The backlog demands my attention instead. Plus, I need to save up Microsoft Rewards points for Borderlands 4 and Little Nightmares 3 later in the year (assuming they review well).

Yeah I guess the problem is games take so long to develop these days that the generation is almost over by the time the first games that fully utilise all the tech actually appear. How many games actually use mesh shaders? Alan Wake 2 and I genuinely can’t think of any others. Then there’s the issue that Unreal Engine 5.0 released in a half-baked state so that set back games by many years too. How long will it take for UE5.6 games to finally surface? Probably not until the next generation hardware is already out sadly.

More evidence that next Xbox is in fact a PC. Evidence just keeps on stacking up.

Keeper and it’s not even a close contest.

@Coletrain yes I completely agree, by giving up on exclusives they made this transition to PC and a more open platform essentially mandatory for the Xbox brand to endure.

@Millionski to clarify, I agree with you. The market can’t support a XSX successor because Xbox doesn’t really offer anything unique these days other than Game Pass, which has proven to be an insufficient selling point to maintain a mass audience for a premium console. The hardware has got some neat tricks like Quick Resume but the market has spoken - it’s not enough to remain competitive. This is all a consequence of Xbox leadership’s poor management of this generation (and the obviously the one prior too).

And by thrive I mean that I think a PC ‘Xbox’ could thrive in the same sense that the Steam Deck thrives and not that it’s going to outsell the PS6, because that’ll absolutely never happen.

All signs point to Microsoft sunsetting traditional consoles in favour of console-like simplified Windows boxes that also have Steam and other PC stores etc.

It’s true I think that the market can no longer support a traditional XSX successor. Going the PC route is the only way Xbox hardware can survive. If they do it right though they won’t just survive but thrive.

Exciting times ahead next generation.

The art direction looks top notch. The screenshots are gorgeous.

Will Rare ever do anything other than Sea of Thieves or are they doomed to eternally work on live services for all eternity?

Panzer Dragoon Orta ❤️
A masterpiece for its time that has aged remarkably well. The world, the lore, the art, the atmosphere, the music - it’s all so well done.

I really wish we could get a new Panzer Dragoon game.

@BacklogBrad I was going to say something very similar (to your first comment). If Game Pass weren’t profitable then it wouldn’t have survived for this long in its current form. It really is as simple as that I think. Xbox is no charity.

Microsoft have no qualms shutting down studios, making employees redundant, cancelling games, raising prices of hardware and games all in the name of the sacred profit margin. They are cutthroat. I don’t see why Game Pass would be an exception to this rule.

Maybe! Depends if there’s interest from my brothers firstly, as it’s co-op game so it’s not just my decision alone.

The late August timing is problematic for me personally though as I’ll be away from Xbox for much of September. By the time I get back Borderlands 4 will be out and if that reviews well we’re likely to prioritise it. Then Little Nightmares 3 comes out not long after as another co-op game on our radar.

I’m travelling tomorrow, so Horizon: Forbidden West is going on pause for now. Switch 2 will be my companion all week, I just bought Sonic x Shadow Generations to have something new and shiny to play on it.

Alas, you cannot save what is already dead.

@Millionski thing is, if it truly has Steam then it won’t matter if it flops in terms of sales, because it’ll still get all the games regardless! That would be the beauty of merging with PC. I wouldn’t have to sit here constantly port begging for Stellar Blade anymore, it would just be there and just work.

Yes ‘safe’ hmmm 👀
Feels like nothing is truly safe now honestly. Well except Call of Duty. That one is definitely safe.

It’s not fake… but here’s all the ways that it’s fake.

@Millionski oh yeah I’m certainly not holding my breath for anything first party, but third party developed exclusives… well this announcement brings a little spark of hope. Stellar Blade on Xbox, make it happen Sony!

How about Stellar Blade? Pie in the Sky or a real possibility?

Woah. Well that was unexpected. Has anyone checked on hell lately? Has it frozen over? And why do I see a flock of pigs galavanting across the sky?

I was reminded that a few months ago Phil was saying this:
https://www.eurogamer.net/yes-rares-everwild-is-still-in-development-and-xbox-is-committed-to-giving-the-team-the-time-it-needs

Awkward! 😬

And Jez Corden also got this spectacularly wrong: https://www.purexbox.com/news/2025/05/microsoft-has-strong-confidence-in-rares-everwild-says-xbox-reporter

Sounds like Double Fine are safe… for now. It’s troubling that mass layoffs and studio closures are a frequent occurrence now at Xbox.

This is developing faster than poor Ben or Fraser can possibly keep up with, but the latest is that The Initiative has been closed and Perfect Dark cancelled.

Every cloud has a silver lining

So… Rare is now doomed to just toil away in the Sea of Thieves live service mines for all eternity? This is sad. Incredibly sad.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner so Rare just doomed to be a Sea of Thieves live service slop factory for all eternity? That would be a very dark outcome.

Hoping that Double Fine will make it through 🤞

Best that can be wished for is no full studio closures I guess. Let’s see what this day of misery has in store

Wooooo! Go Split Fiction! 🥳
My GOTY of 2025 so far, for sure.

I haven’t had chance to play Clair Obscur yet. The backlog of games is so very long.

Excited for Wuchang, I hope it’s good.

I’ll reserve judgement until after tomorrow’s mass layoff and studio closure announcement that is rumoured to happen. Actions speak far louder than words. That’s when we will know what Xbox truly values. Do they value high quality games like Psychonauts 2 or do they value annualised, micro-transaction infested slop? Let’s see. Double Fine is the canary in the coal mine. If they die, then it signals that Xbox are set on a dark path. Psychonauts 2 is my favourite first party XSX game and Keeper is easily the most interesting Xbox release in all of 2025. Don’t you dare harm Double Fine!