@rhyno_888 I think that is unlikely. A game like Oxenfree 2 is comparatively low budget and can be made exclusive without losing much. But it would be madness to buy Hogwarts Legacy (for example) and then limit it only to Netflix, just like Microsoft aren't limiting studios they bought. It makes little business sense, they would literally be devaluing the asset they bought many times over.
It's not every game, but it is brilliant, and better than the competition. I wish they would do even more games though, especially with FPS boost and X-enhanced (increasing games to 4K@60fps)
It's pretty embarrassing to lose to the Nex Playground 3rd (whatever that is) but they didn't offer good BF pricing, so these numbers don't mean that much in isolation.
But it is part of a much wider problem where Xbox is hardly selling in any territories we have numbers for. And why would consumers bite when the prices are so much higher than the competition?
It's a shame, as at the start of the gen I was recommending families on the fence go for a Series S + Game Pass, that's a hard recommendation to make right now.
@Fiendish-Beaver It's pretty even. According to Pure Xbox's list it's 155 on console, 163 on PC. But then why does console cost so much more than PC for day 1 games?
As for the 75 day 1 games, I expect it will be like it usually is, lots of third party indie games. But if enough of these are of the calibre of Expedition 33, Silksong and Blue Prince (my top 3 games of the year) then i'll be satisfied.
@FraserG The fact Netflix and WB haven't mentioned gaming OR Wrestling in their press release or interviews that I have seen isn't reassuring! At least with ABK it was all about games and gaming IP, there is a chance that Netflix simply doesn't care about these parts much.
I'm about half way through it, It doesn't really remind me of Halo at all... except the doors! Mixed bag so far, high highs, low lows. (EDIT there is a bit later on that was quite Halo coded)
@FraserG Absolutely. There will almost certainly be job losses and potentially even studio closures, that's a given for almost every large M&A. But it's also fair to say this was always going to happen, regardless of if it was Netflix, someone else, or WB held onto it. For consumers I suspect Netflix prices will also go up sooner than they would have done.
On the gaming side specifically it will be interesting to see how they are going to handle that. Open platforms? Exclusivity? Concentrate on mobile? Or keeping the status quo.
@Fiendish-Beaver I'd like to know what happened with Sony because this was initially part of their China Hero Project and they likely would have part funded the game, but it no longer is. Perhaps they bought themselves out of the deal. Either way that's good for Xbox.
UPDATE: push square have updated their article and reversed what they said, it is still part of the China Hero Project
Looking forward to giving Routine a go. The few Reviews there are (77 metactric from 10 reviews) suggest it may be a a bit Marmite, praising the horror aspect sound design etc, while lamenting the enemy AI etc. A more favourable review from PC Gamesn concluded in their 9/10 review:
What Routine lacks in quantity, it makes up for in staggering quality. It’s cassette futurism at its most tactile, with an aesthetic direction that’s only matched by the novelty of its CAT tool. Lunar Software raises the bar in sound design to deliver a singular experience for sci-fi horror fans.
EDIT: Although Metroid Prime 4 just arrived... so i'll play that first!
In terms of on paper specs Series S is more powerful - significantly better CPU, better GPU, etc. - but Switch 2 has a few advantages e.g. more RAM 12GB vs 10GB on Series S (which is what holds Series S back most). Switch 2 also has DLSS which means it can run at lower resolutions but upscale that to look comparable, freeing up resources.
Lastly, and probably most importantly, the popularity of the Switch 2's and the fact it is the main console for Nintendo will mean devs will likely spend more time optimising specifically for it vs Series S. Hence we get games that are almost comparable, or better in some respects, on Switch 2 than Series S, when they really shouldn't be on paper.
It's all very interesting and I look forward to seeing what devs can do on Switch 2 vs other consoles.
@Balaam_ I think the reality in a lot of these cases is the publisher DID have a major hand in making the game, or making the game what it was. Perhaps not always in hands-on development itself, but by funding the game, or funding marketing (which is often a lot). Many of these games simply wouldn’t exist without the publisher, or if they were made without them wouldn’t have the same scope / be the same game.
@Nightcrawler71 Subscription to Fallout 1st is not mandatory, you can play the game without it. But depending how much you get on with the game you may want some of the resources or extra storage it offers. It's basically things that would be included in the normal economy in a single player game imo. Whether that bothers you is subjective.
@Fiendish-Beaver You can play the whole game solo, but it wasn't initially designed for that. It has been added later. How you feel about how successful they were in that will be subjective. Some say it's fine solo, others say it's missing something.
@jesse_dylan ...also... Yes I got caught out not playing Stalker 2 before it left Game Pass - I tried it day 1 but it was broken - so I understand your concern with waiting, it's a balance. But for Microsoft games they aren't going to be leaving any time soon.
@jesse_dylan In one sense yes, in another no. Whole systems like NPC's actually moving around towns and not being fixed in place - which is pretty huge for immersion - were missing at launch. Yes they did a good job of papering over the cracks to make it appear more seamless Day 1 but there were many things that were missing and added or improved later.
When a single player games like this, without DLC, comes out with an "Update roadmap" that is taking a year to deliver, it's pretty clear the game came out not fully baked Day 1.
It's a shame it's yet another game that wasn't ready at release, it's a real problem all over this industry, but especially with Game Pass where people are more likely to play Day 1.
I felt VERY mixed about this game. I loved the setting and setup but hated the incessant dialogue and childish 'humour'. PJ's legendary 4/10 review was far funnier than the actual game. But it ticked enough boxes, and as it's on Game Pass i'll probably give it a spin.
@Sol4ris Sometimes yes, sometimes no. There are plenty of times it doesn't work as intended, or installs games to multiple storage drives often duplicating content. Additionally it has some downsides like not being able to install the Xbox One version if you want to.
All in all i'd still call it a net positive, but like a lot of Microsoft's features this gen (Quick resume etc.) it comes with an asterisk, it's good when it works, but frustrating when it doesn't. For a software company i'd expect Microsoft to be better at this side of things!
Moreover with Console and PC seemingly merging next gen they really need to make this seamless to give a good user experience. Currently with the Xbox ROG Ally it isn't there yet. Still lots of work to do to realise this unified future. Hopefully they will have it ready in 2 years.
@Fiendish-Beaver I respect you feel that way, but to present another view...
I think the curation on Game Pass is mostly excellent. I am not sure I would call much of it "filler", but I guess that is subjective. Most games deserve to be there for one reason or another imo.
This year we have had at least 10 TGA nominees day 1 as well as many that were nominated in previous years, that's undeniable quality. We've also had a lot of fine indies and AA's as well to keep the quality up. The ones I might call "filler" are the 7/10s that maybe didn't find a large enough audience, but you may, or may not enjoy. Personally I quite like some of these as they are the sort of games I wouldn't necessarily buy but often end up being games I do like. The beauty of game pass is we get to try them risk free.
Either way room for many different views. No one is 'right'.
I have no doubt DEVELOPER interest hasn't wavered as they have almost created a secret society where you are either in or out. For the vast majority of small games appearing on Game Pass they will do well... but what of the ones that don't make the cut and are ostracised.
As a consumer I love Game Pass, but lets not pretend it isn't problematic also.
@Kilamanjaro Stadia was great for the time - in terms of tech, a HORRIBLE business model - but everyone is being put to shame by GeForce now where even John from Digital Foundry one of the most vocal pro-physical/ownership, anti-cloud voices in gaming said he could hardly tell the difference. And PS+ Cloud is also vastly superior in terms of fidelity. XCloud is "good" but needs to be a lot better to compete. Especially if Microsoft want to make it a key part of their strategy.
@Fiendish-Beaver We already know Sony had stipulations in place with F2P titles to stop people being able to spend 100% on one platform but play on PlayStation, there was some remuneration in those instances.
@Elbow I'm not saying it's not possible but it would need some agreement between the platform holders, and there is little incentive for Sony right now. As for GoG they are like Switzerland a tiny inoffensive neutrality that is a threat to no one. I don't see that as a good example of what would happen between platform holders... though i'd love to be wrong and see it.
I use it quite a bit, especially on handheld (Steam Deck / phone), it works better in some games than others, especially simpler games
But I still find it unplayable for fast paced things like Halo / FPS, or Forza / Racing, the lag is too noticeable and you overshoot.
I've also been a little disappointed by the 1440p update on console. It's still visually the worst of all the streaming services on a big screen. 1440p should be OK but resolution isn't everything when the bit-rate seems so low and there is macro-blocking ruining the image.
For me it's still a nice to have extra, but not a major feature and their implementation still needs plenty of work.
Plus ca change! To be fair some of these wider plans have been in place for a while. Phil talked, even before he was head of Xbox (now head of MS Gaming) of not liking exclusives and wanting people to be able to play anywhere. But it finally feels like that is becoming a reality.
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Re: Paramount Fights Back Against Netflix With 'Superior All-Cash Offer' For Warner Bros.
@rhyno_888 I think that is unlikely. A game like Oxenfree 2 is comparatively low budget and can be made exclusive without losing much. But it would be madness to buy Hogwarts Legacy (for example) and then limit it only to Netflix, just like Microsoft aren't limiting studios they bought. It makes little business sense, they would literally be devaluing the asset they bought many times over.
Re: Talking Point: Four Years On, Did Halo Infinite Ever Live Up To Expectations?
No. It’s the only Halo campaign I’ve played just once. Going open world didn’t work. It was OK but that isn’t good enough for Halo.
Re: Opinion: Backwards Compatibility Still Adds So Much Value To Xbox Series X|S In 2025
It's not every game, but it is brilliant, and better than the competition. I wish they would do even more games though, especially with FPS boost and X-enhanced (increasing games to 4K@60fps)
Re: Xbox Series X|S Had No Black Friday Deals, So They Lost To A Console We've Never Heard Of (US)
It's pretty embarrassing to lose to the Nex Playground 3rd (whatever that is) but they didn't offer good BF pricing, so these numbers don't mean that much in isolation.
But it is part of a much wider problem where Xbox is hardly selling in any territories we have numbers for. And why would consumers bite when the prices are so much higher than the competition?
It's a shame, as at the start of the gen I was recommending families on the fence go for a Series S + Game Pass, that's a hard recommendation to make right now.
Re: Here's What Might Leave Xbox Game Pass In January 2026
Note to self: Must try and give Eternal Strands a try.
@DeadSpace Sniper Elite: Resistance
Re: The ROG Xbox Ally Has Just Received Its First Major Discount
This is the model that isn’t selling, and I’m not surprised it’s underpowered for the price, very small slice of an already niche market.
Re: Xbox Finishes Off The Week With Two New Game Pass Reveals, Both For Next Month
@Fiendish-Beaver It's pretty even. According to Pure Xbox's list it's 155 on console, 163 on PC. But then why does console cost so much more than PC for day 1 games?
As for the 75 day 1 games, I expect it will be like it usually is, lots of third party indie games. But if enough of these are of the calibre of Expedition 33, Silksong and Blue Prince (my top 3 games of the year) then i'll be satisfied.
Re: GTA 5's Michael De Santa Returns In Major New 'Safehouse' Update For GTA Online
@Chip-Douglas Came to type almost the exact same word for word. A shame.
Re: Netflix Is Buying Warner Bros. For Even More Money Than Xbox's ActiBlizz Deal
@FraserG The fact Netflix and WB haven't mentioned gaming OR Wrestling in their press release or interviews that I have seen isn't reassuring! At least with ABK it was all about games and gaming IP, there is a chance that Netflix simply doesn't care about these parts much.
Re: Metroid Prime 4 Has A Stronger Connection To Xbox And Halo Than You Might Think
I'm about half way through it, It doesn't really remind me of Halo at all... except the doors! Mixed bag so far, high highs, low lows. (EDIT there is a bit later on that was quite Halo coded)
Re: Netflix Is Buying Warner Bros. For Even More Money Than Xbox's ActiBlizz Deal
@FraserG Absolutely. There will almost certainly be job losses and potentially even studio closures, that's a given for almost every large M&A. But it's also fair to say this was always going to happen, regardless of if it was Netflix, someone else, or WB held onto it. For consumers I suspect Netflix prices will also go up sooner than they would have done.
On the gaming side specifically it will be interesting to see how they are going to handle that. Open platforms? Exclusivity? Concentrate on mobile? Or keeping the status quo.
I fear for Rocksteady!
Re: Keeper Update Adds New Video Modes & PC Ultrawide Support On Xbox Game Pass
Brilliant little game, that gets better as it goes on. Great momentum.
Re: Clockwork Revolution Dev Shares New Message About Its Eagerly Anticipated Xbox RPG
It's a massively ambitious project, I hope they have the stuff to pull it off, as it's one of my most anticipated Xbox titles.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From The PC Gaming Show: Most Wanted 2025
Carmageddon! That takes me back almost 30 years, was a lot of mindless fun back then.
Re: The God Slayer Is Bringing Its Open World RPG To Xbox, And It's Getting Help From PlayStation
@Questionable_Duck thanks, see above, their initial article said the opposite.
Re: The God Slayer Is Bringing Its Open World RPG To Xbox, And It's Getting Help From PlayStation
@Weebleman thanks. The initial article from Push Square said it was no longer part of it. I see they have clarified that, which makes more sense.
Re: 'Replaced' Finally Has An Xbox Game Pass Release Date, Four Years Since It Was Revealed
It's been a long wait, hopefully it lives up to expectations.
Re: The God Slayer Is Bringing Its Open World RPG To Xbox, And It's Getting Help From PlayStation
@Fiendish-Beaver I'd like to know what happened with Sony because this was initially part of their China Hero Project and they likely would have part funded the game, but it no longer is. Perhaps they bought themselves out of the deal. Either way that's good for Xbox.
UPDATE: push square have updated their article and reversed what they said, it is still part of the China Hero Project
Re: The God Slayer Is Bringing Its Open World RPG To Xbox, And It's Getting Help From PlayStation
Looks awesome. The powers are ripped straight from Avatar: The Last Airbender but with an adult twist... and I am OK with that!
Re: Xbox Is Giving Away Free Gift Cards To Various Users This December
Never get one, but not surprised as I don't buy much from the store, Xbox is mostly my Game Pass device.
Re: Three Games Are Available Today Across Various Tiers Of Xbox Game Pass (December 4)
Looking forward to giving Routine a go. The few Reviews there are (77 metactric from 10 reviews) suggest it may be a a bit Marmite, praising the horror aspect sound design etc, while lamenting the enemy AI etc. A more favourable review from PC Gamesn concluded in their 9/10 review:
EDIT: Although Metroid Prime 4 just arrived... so i'll play that first!
Re: The Xbox Mobile App Is Finally Adding A Store, And Here's Your First Look At It
Makes sense for a device agnostic Xbox.
Re: Digital Foundry Compares Xbox Series S & Switch 2 In New Assassin's Creed Shadows Analysis
In terms of on paper specs Series S is more powerful - significantly better CPU, better GPU, etc. - but Switch 2 has a few advantages e.g. more RAM 12GB vs 10GB on Series S (which is what holds Series S back most). Switch 2 also has DLSS which means it can run at lower resolutions but upscale that to look comparable, freeing up resources.
Lastly, and probably most importantly, the popularity of the Switch 2's and the fact it is the main console for Nintendo will mean devs will likely spend more time optimising specifically for it vs Series S. Hence we get games that are almost comparable, or better in some respects, on Switch 2 than Series S, when they really shouldn't be on paper.
It's all very interesting and I look forward to seeing what devs can do on Switch 2 vs other consoles.
Re: Rolling Stone's Top 25 Games Of 2025 Features Two Xbox First-Party Titles
@Balaam_ I think the reality in a lot of these cases is the publisher DID have a major hand in making the game, or making the game what it was. Perhaps not always in hands-on development itself, but by funding the game, or funding marketing (which is often a lot). Many of these games simply wouldn’t exist without the publisher, or if they were made without them wouldn’t have the same scope / be the same game.
Re: Rolling Stone's Top 25 Games Of 2025 Features Two Xbox First-Party Titles
Strong list of games! 2025 has been great.
But Silksong below South of Midnight... that is a CHOICE! lol
Re: High On Life 2 Debuts 10 Minutes Of New Gameplay Footage As Xbox Pre-Orders Go Live
@Scummbuddy They were still uber-chatty. Thanks though.
Re: Xbox Crowns Its Biggest Third-Party Game Pass Launch Of 2025
Played it on Game Pass, then bought it at full price. Easy GOTY
Re: Need A Reason To Play Fallout 76 Again? It's Just Released A Massive New Update
@Nightcrawler71 Subscription to Fallout 1st is not mandatory, you can play the game without it. But depending how much you get on with the game you may want some of the resources or extra storage it offers. It's basically things that would be included in the normal economy in a single player game imo. Whether that bothers you is subjective.
@Fiendish-Beaver You can play the whole game solo, but it wasn't initially designed for that. It has been added later. How you feel about how successful they were in that will be subjective. Some say it's fine solo, others say it's missing something.
Re: Avowed Is Getting Its 'Biggest Update Yet' To Mark The Xbox Title's One-Year Anniversary
@jesse_dylan ...also... Yes I got caught out not playing Stalker 2 before it left Game Pass - I tried it day 1 but it was broken - so I understand your concern with waiting, it's a balance. But for Microsoft games they aren't going to be leaving any time soon.
Re: Avowed Is Getting Its 'Biggest Update Yet' To Mark The Xbox Title's One-Year Anniversary
@jesse_dylan In one sense yes, in another no. Whole systems like NPC's actually moving around towns and not being fixed in place - which is pretty huge for immersion - were missing at launch. Yes they did a good job of papering over the cracks to make it appear more seamless Day 1 but there were many things that were missing and added or improved later.
When a single player games like this, without DLC, comes out with an "Update roadmap" that is taking a year to deliver, it's pretty clear the game came out not fully baked Day 1.
Re: Avowed Is Getting Its 'Biggest Update Yet' To Mark The Xbox Title's One-Year Anniversary
It's a shame it's yet another game that wasn't ready at release, it's a real problem all over this industry, but especially with Game Pass where people are more likely to play Day 1.
Re: High On Life 2 Debuts 10 Minutes Of New Gameplay Footage As Xbox Pre-Orders Go Live
I felt VERY mixed about this game. I loved the setting and setup but hated the incessant dialogue and childish 'humour'. PJ's legendary 4/10 review was far funnier than the actual game. But it ticked enough boxes, and as it's on Game Pass i'll probably give it a spin.
Re: Rockstar Causes Confusion Over Red Dead Redemption Upgrade On Xbox
@Sol4ris Sometimes yes, sometimes no. There are plenty of times it doesn't work as intended, or installs games to multiple storage drives often duplicating content. Additionally it has some downsides like not being able to install the Xbox One version if you want to.
All in all i'd still call it a net positive, but like a lot of Microsoft's features this gen (Quick resume etc.) it comes with an asterisk, it's good when it works, but frustrating when it doesn't. For a software company i'd expect Microsoft to be better at this side of things!
Moreover with Console and PC seemingly merging next gen they really need to make this seamless to give a good user experience. Currently with the Xbox ROG Ally it isn't there yet. Still lots of work to do to realise this unified future. Hopefully they will have it ready in 2 years.
Re: Routine Is Getting All Kinds Of Review Scores Ahead Of Its Xbox Game Pass Launch
It looks like that sort of game, like Scorn or Signalis. A bit Marmite.
I kinda love that.
Re: Xbox Teases 2026 Game Pass Lineup As It Delivers The Service's Final Update Of 2025
@Fiendish-Beaver I respect you feel that way, but to present another view...
I think the curation on Game Pass is mostly excellent. I am not sure I would call much of it "filler", but I guess that is subjective. Most games deserve to be there for one reason or another imo.
This year we have had at least 10 TGA nominees day 1 as well as many that were nominated in previous years, that's undeniable quality. We've also had a lot of fine indies and AA's as well to keep the quality up. The ones I might call "filler" are the 7/10s that maybe didn't find a large enough audience, but you may, or may not enjoy. Personally I quite like some of these as they are the sort of games I wouldn't necessarily buy but often end up being games I do like. The beauty of game pass is we get to try them risk free.
Either way room for many different views. No one is 'right'.
Re: Rockstar Causes Confusion Over Red Dead Redemption Upgrade On Xbox
Not so Smart Delivery
Re: Xbox Adds More Perks For Game Pass Members (December 2025)
£249.99 for Meta Quest 3S + Batman + Beat Saber is a pretty good deal. I just don't want Meta.
Re: Xbox Owners Show Off Their Black Friday & Cyber Monday 2025 Purchases
I ended up picking up a second hand (but basically unused) PS Portal for £95. Been very happy with that so far.
Re: Three Games Are Available This Week With Xbox Game Pass (December 1-4)
Routine actually looks like it could be good. Fingers crossed it is!
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In December 2025
Not a lot here, but that's OK plenty to play and Game Pass has fed we me well this year.
Re: Black Ops 7 Gets Its First Xbox Discount Two Weeks After Launch, But You'll Have To Be Quick
Speaks volumes!
Re: Xbox Exec Talks Game Pass And Suggests Developer Enthusiasm Hasn't Wavered For It
I have no doubt DEVELOPER interest hasn't wavered as they have almost created a secret society where you are either in or out. For the vast majority of small games appearing on Game Pass they will do well... but what of the ones that don't make the cut and are ostracised.
As a consumer I love Game Pass, but lets not pretend it isn't problematic also.
Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Revisiting Red Dead Redemption On Xbox Next Week?
Nope. I replayed the last version and this is just a next-gen version of that port. Great game, albeit the gameplay is pretty dated.
Re: Xbox Says Cloud Gaming Is Up 45% With Game Pass & Console Users In 2025
@Kilamanjaro Stadia was great for the time - in terms of tech, a HORRIBLE business model - but everyone is being put to shame by GeForce now where even John from Digital Foundry one of the most vocal pro-physical/ownership, anti-cloud voices in gaming said he could hardly tell the difference. And PS+ Cloud is also vastly superior in terms of fidelity. XCloud is "good" but needs to be a lot better to compete. Especially if Microsoft want to make it a key part of their strategy.
Re: Phil Spencer Was Asked About Xbox's 'Unusual Strategy' In 2019, And The Answers Are Still Relevant Six Years Later
@Fiendish-Beaver We already know Sony had stipulations in place with F2P titles to stop people being able to spend 100% on one platform but play on PlayStation, there was some remuneration in those instances.
@Elbow I'm not saying it's not possible but it would need some agreement between the platform holders, and there is little incentive for Sony right now. As for GoG they are like Switzerland a tiny inoffensive neutrality that is a threat to no one. I don't see that as a good example of what would happen between platform holders... though i'd love to be wrong and see it.
Re: Microsoft Rewards Is Allowing You To 'Double Your Points' Until Early December
I got a bit excited, thinking this would be all points, but it's just Bing search for a week. Up to 1050 extra points, that's around £0.89 max.
Re: Phil Spencer Was Asked About Xbox's 'Unusual Strategy' In 2019, And The Answers Are Still Relevant Six Years Later
@Fiendish-Beaver Re: Play Anywhere. They would likely have to negotiate something with Sony and Steam who wouldn't be getting a cut of that sale.
Re: Xbox Says Cloud Gaming Is Up 45% With Game Pass & Console Users In 2025
I use it quite a bit, especially on handheld (Steam Deck / phone), it works better in some games than others, especially simpler games
But I still find it unplayable for fast paced things like Halo / FPS, or Forza / Racing, the lag is too noticeable and you overshoot.
I've also been a little disappointed by the 1440p update on console. It's still visually the worst of all the streaming services on a big screen. 1440p should be OK but resolution isn't everything when the bit-rate seems so low and there is macro-blocking ruining the image.
For me it's still a nice to have extra, but not a major feature and their implementation still needs plenty of work.
Re: Phil Spencer Was Asked About Xbox's 'Unusual Strategy' In 2019, And The Answers Are Still Relevant Six Years Later
Plus ca change! To be fair some of these wider plans have been in place for a while. Phil talked, even before he was head of Xbox (now head of MS Gaming) of not liking exclusives and wanting people to be able to play anywhere. But it finally feels like that is becoming a reality.
Re: Talking Point: Did You Expect More From Xbox 360's 20th Anniversary?
Did I expect more? No. Did I hope for a little more? Yes.