Pretty sure it isn’t a need for new hardware, it’s that MS is making no compelling argument to buy THEIRS now.
Note that Sony’s dropped the least. People wanting a Switch know that the Switch 2 is on the way, and MS has done very little to push the XBox hardware.
Still happy I snagged a series X last year. But with Forza Horizon 5 coming to PS5…
Visited a friend who had the OG XBox back in the day and he showed me a few games. I wasn’t overwhelmingly impressed, and happily continued being a PS and Nintendo guy.
April of last year, I decided to get a series X and check out the Halo series and a few others, along with some BC improved games. Probably would have sold the console after that, but I discovered Forza Horizon 4 and 5, and that got me to stay.
Of course, now that 5 (and likely 6) are coming to PS…well, I’ll still keep my series X. I picked up a decent library of games for it, though my PS consoles will always have pride of place!
As far as I’m concerned, the only miss they’ve had is not porting Dead Souls to current consoles, plus the other Ishin!-style game from years back. All their games have been excellent.
@Kilamanjaro The physical Swirch and PS4 copies are getting some serious discounts lately, and both my copies are opened JUST so I don’t get tempted to resell them down the road.
Yes, Veilguard failed because of the lack of live service. It wasn’t the bugs, the bad writing, the virtue signaling, the dialog options bearing no resemblance to what your character actually says, or anything like that.
Nope. It was that darn missing live service. Never mind that EA’s football/soccer game was also a failure, and that was its usual connected and looty self.
@IOI Every platform becomes unsupported eventually. If MS stopped making new consoles tomorrow, how does that devalue your current game library? Plus, digital purchases are just indefinite rentals anyway, they aren’t forever.
Besides, Sony doesn’t make PS3 or Vita consoles anymore, yet I can still download my purchased games for them, even though they’re indefinite rentals for essentially dead platforms.
Also, that’s awesome about cross play, thanks for that info! Cross-save would be AMAZING.
I bought my first Xbox, a series X last year so I could play some of the exclusives I’d missed out on in the past. Halo, Gears of War, etc, then I’d sell the console, satisfied I’d tried them out.
I’m not a driving game fan. At all. So out of curiosity I fired up Horizon 4 on gamepass expecting to play for ten minutes and then delete.
Nearly a year later, I have bought Forza Horizon 2 and 3 on disc, and the ultimate editions of 4 and 5 digitally with no plans to sell the series X.
That said? I will also get Horizon 5 on PS5, possibly even the ultimate edition, and it will also be my preferred platform for Horizon 6 whenever that comes out. I HOPE for day one on there, but I’ll happily play it on gamepass or just buy it outright on X as well as PS5 if it isn’t. Hell, I might buy it for both platforms anyway, just because I’ve enjoyed the series so much. Put your money where your mouth is, right?
Maybe MS will implement cross-play for the Horizon series future releases so XBox and PS5 owners can enjoy the playground together!
It could mean total sales, but that’s really doubtful. It could mean sales-before-refunding for folks who got it on Steam, tried it and hated it and got their money back. It could include people who played it via GeForce Now for free.
Words matter. If this was actual games sold where they got some appreciable money back, they’d actually say SOLD, not engaged.
@bazchillin “While PlayStation made cuts like removing CD playback and lacking UHD Blu-ray support on the PS4 and PS5”
Erm. You do know the PS5 is a fully functional 4k bluray player, right? Every PS5 with a disc drive is a 4k bluray player. That said, I invested in a separate 4k player to spare my PS5 and Series X’s optical drives some wear and tear.
As for the cd part…a few years ago I was surprised to learn that the PS4 didn’t have the ability to play cds…and then I remembered that I ripped all my CDs years ago and have never used my game console to play music since the PS2. Genuinely surprised that the series X can play them. I learned something new today, and I hope you did as well with the PS5 and 4k movie playing!
@Kieduss Blatantly incorrect. I have one account, only earn points from my Xbox and the app, and haven’t abused a damn thing. My account got suspended sometime between yesterday afternoon and this morning.
I suggest not making sweeping generalizations in the future. You’ll look less foolish.
@Lucylu1983 Looks like mine is back up and running now. Thanks for that info!
@Sol4ris I more meant that the people who play said games and then don’t buy them is sad.
Obviously you are DEFINITELY an outlier, as am I! But (and yes, this is anecdotal, I know) my series X-owning friend at work has bought exactly three games since getting the X at launch. He’s a gamepass guy. Hell, the only reason he still has Forza Horizon 4 is because I bought it for him digitally over the holidays.
He’s the only other series X owner I know, so my knowledge pool is admittely small. But he’s definitely not an outlier from what I see online, and that’s why I find it sad.
@Rog-X Tell me you find every opportunity to disparage Sony in an article unrelated to Sony without telling me you find every opportunity to disparage Sony in an article unrelated to Sony.
@LogicStrikesAgain “Especially if it’s not made exclusive to a platform with a userbase that isn’t particularly prone to buying games.”
Just this. The number of people who wait for games to hit GamePass is sad. That said, I freely admit GamePass DID get me to buy Hi-Fi Rush digitally after trying it out on my Series X. Unfortunately, most people wouldn’t actually buy the game afterwards.
Heh. This was reported on Push Square just before I went to bed, and I mentioned that the Pure XBox comments when it got reported here should be interesting.
Just woke up and reading all these now. I love being right. munches popcorn
That said, it’s too bad the series S continues to be a millstone around dev’s necks, having to release for S and X simultaneously.
@trev666 Doubtful. The only games to do that in recent memory are Star Wars Survivor and some of the Call of Duty games.
PS games in general are complete on-disc, other than day one patches. Since this is a port that gets to cook a few more months, there is zero reason for this to not be a complete release.
@trev666 Ah. I keep forgetting MS went with lower capacity discs in their infinite wisdom. They could have gone with two or three discs, FYI. CDPR did it with Cyberpunk’s complete series X release.
Guess my decision to wait to purchase the PS5 physical version has paid off!
@Balaam_ Does the series X disc version not have the full game? Serious question, as there’s no XBone copy so smart delivery is thankfully not involved. Or was there a ginormous day one patch?
I definitely look forward to a sequel. There were some odd dialogue-repetition bugs that popped up, including characters who were nowhere near to me having audible speech, but other than that I had a blast. Was very pleasantly surprised.
Will definitely be buying the PS5 physical copy now that I’ve rented it on GP.
@Sol4ris I have to admit, I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how good this game is. I’ve enjoyed this game more than Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny combined, that’s for sure.
Interesting. I’m currently playing it on gamepass, and the only reason I haven’t bought a physical copy for series X now is that I would prefer to have that for my PS5.
That said, if I see a physical disc copy on discount for series X, I’ll happily snag it for the collection!
@HelloCraigo Speaking purely for myself, I’d rather see a list of games than have to watch a thirteen minute video. No offense intended, I just prefer reading for a few moments to glean some info and then move on!
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Re: 'Mecha BREAK' Dev Talks Xbox Console Exclusivity & Future Game Pass Plans
@ValentineMeikin FF14 and Warframe also run on the base PS4, so automatically the requirements are lower.
Re: Xbox Indie Showcase (February 2025): Date, Start Times, And What To Expect
@Trmn8r Never underestimate the ability of IGN to achieve ever higher levels of cringe.
Re: January Hardware Sales The Worst Since 2020 In The US As Xbox Consoles Decline By 50%
Pretty sure it isn’t a need for new hardware, it’s that MS is making no compelling argument to buy THEIRS now.
Note that Sony’s dropped the least. People wanting a Switch know that the Switch 2 is on the way, and MS has done very little to push the XBox hardware.
Still happy I snagged a series X last year. But with Forza Horizon 5 coming to PS5…
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza In Hawaii
@TheBeardiest I have P5 for PS4, and P5R for PS4, PS5, Switch and XBox.
Don’t ask me about every other physical release for PS4/XBox/3DS/Switch for the other games, because I only have so much free time in my day.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza In Hawaii
@TheBeardiest I’m not alone!
I do the same for Persona games as well, because I’m an idiot.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza In Hawaii
RGG Studio is one of the few out there that delivers consistently entertaining games these days.
My PS5 copy will be waiting for me on Friday, and will also pick it up for XBox on disc down the road, as I like supporting these folks.
Re: Talking Point: When Did You First Get Introduced To The World Of Xbox?
Visited a friend who had the OG XBox back in the day and he showed me a few games. I wasn’t overwhelmingly impressed, and happily continued being a PS and Nintendo guy.
April of last year, I decided to get a series X and check out the Halo series and a few others, along with some BC improved games. Probably would have sold the console after that, but I discovered Forza Horizon 4 and 5, and that got me to stay.
Of course, now that 5 (and likely 6) are coming to PS…well, I’ll still keep my series X. I picked up a decent library of games for it, though my PS consoles will always have pride of place!
Re: Avowed Review Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think So Far
After seeing the universally glowing reviews for Veilguard…I don’t believe any of these critics anymore.
I’ll wait for some folks I trust more to give me their verdict down the road.
Re: Xbox Gets Its Biggest Free Demo Of The Year So Far, Available Today
As far as I’m concerned, the only miss they’ve had is not porting Dead Souls to current consoles, plus the other Ishin!-style game from years back. All their games have been excellent.
Re: Talking Point: What Would You Want From A New Batman Game?
I don’t even want a new game. I want a remaster of Arkham Origins. I don’t trust current!Rocksteady to make a good new game anymore.
(Yes, I know if one has the 360 disc one can play it via BC, but I do not have said disc.)
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection Available Now On Xbox
@Kilamanjaro The physical Swirch and PS4 copies are getting some serious discounts lately, and both my copies are opened JUST so I don’t get tempted to resell them down the road.
Re: EA Seems To Think That Live Service Would Have Helped Xbox RPG Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Yes, Veilguard failed because of the lack of live service. It wasn’t the bugs, the bad writing, the virtue signaling, the dialog options bearing no resemblance to what your character actually says, or anything like that.
Nope. It was that darn missing live service. Never mind that EA’s football/soccer game was also a failure, and that was its usual connected and looty self.
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection Available Now On Xbox
Too bad this (to my knowledge) isn’t getting a physical release for XBox.
I’ll live with my Switch and PS4 physical copies, but I’m glad more folks will get to play these!
Re: Former PlayStation Exec Says 'The Game Is Changing' As Xbox Goes Multiplatform
@FatGuyInLilCoat Luxury. I go twice a DAY and have to show the therapist where on my Robot White controller MS touched me.
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
@IOI Every platform becomes unsupported eventually. If MS stopped making new consoles tomorrow, how does that devalue your current game library? Plus, digital purchases are just indefinite rentals anyway, they aren’t forever.
Besides, Sony doesn’t make PS3 or Vita consoles anymore, yet I can still download my purchased games for them, even though they’re indefinite rentals for essentially dead platforms.
Also, that’s awesome about cross play, thanks for that info! Cross-save would be AMAZING.
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
I bought my first Xbox, a series X last year so I could play some of the exclusives I’d missed out on in the past. Halo, Gears of War, etc, then I’d sell the console, satisfied I’d tried them out.
I’m not a driving game fan. At all. So out of curiosity I fired up Horizon 4 on gamepass expecting to play for ten minutes and then delete.
Nearly a year later, I have bought Forza Horizon 2 and 3 on disc, and the ultimate editions of 4 and 5 digitally with no plans to sell the series X.
That said? I will also get Horizon 5 on PS5, possibly even the ultimate edition, and it will also be my preferred platform for Horizon 6 whenever that comes out. I HOPE for day one on there, but I’ll happily play it on gamepass or just buy it outright on X as well as PS5 if it isn’t. Hell, I might buy it for both platforms anyway, just because I’ve enjoyed the series so much. Put your money where your mouth is, right?
Maybe MS will implement cross-play for the Horizon series future releases so XBox and PS5 owners can enjoy the playground together!
Re: Poll: Are You Buying The 'Early Access' Upgrade For Avowed?
@Rog-X I too like to pay to play buggy things sooner.
Oh, no, wait I don’t.
Re: EA Says Two Of Its Major AAA Titles 'Underperformed' In 2024
1.5 million engaged could mean a lot of things.
It could mean total sales, but that’s really doubtful. It could mean sales-before-refunding for folks who got it on Steam, tried it and hated it and got their money back. It could include people who played it via GeForce Now for free.
Words matter. If this was actual games sold where they got some appreciable money back, they’d actually say SOLD, not engaged.
Re: PS5 Pro Surprisingly Loses To Xbox Series X In HDMI Bandwidth Test
@bazchillin “While PlayStation made cuts like removing CD playback and lacking UHD Blu-ray support on the PS4 and PS5”
Erm. You do know the PS5 is a fully functional 4k bluray player, right? Every PS5 with a disc drive is a 4k bluray player. That said, I invested in a separate 4k player to spare my PS5 and Series X’s optical drives some wear and tear.
As for the cd part…a few years ago I was surprised to learn that the PS4 didn’t have the ability to play cds…and then I remembered that I ripped all my CDs years ago and have never used my game console to play music since the PS2. Genuinely surprised that the series X can play them. I learned something new today, and I hope you did as well with the PS5 and 4k movie playing!
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Series X|S Owners, How's Your Storage Looking In 2025?
My series X has a 1 TB expansion card and then I have a 1 TB external drive for BC games and a few other offloaded items.
My main console, my PS5, has a 1 TB M.2 SSD installed and I have an 8 TB external drive with all my PS4/offloaded PS5 games installed.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Reportedly Chose Buying Studios Over 'Winding Down' Xbox In 2021
chooses between ending XBox and buying many studios
buys many studios
closes studios
Profit!
Re: Ubisoft Still Looking For Buyers Amidst Assassins Creed Shadows Delay
“We really need to get this done before Shadows sinks us, and we’re being very aggressive in escaping this sinking ship with SOMETHING.”
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, This Time To March 2025
Well, that gives Ubisoft extra time to do some other stupid thing and annoy the fan base more.
Always give Ubisoft more rope. It’s always entertaining.
Re: Ubisoft Showcases Overhauled Assassin's Creed Shadows Gameplay Ahead Of Xbox Release
Ah, Ubisoft Death Knell: The Game. This should be an interesting launch.
Re: Poll: Which 'Xbox' Devices Will You Spend The Most Time With In 2025?
Since MS says everything is now an XBox, my PS5 is my most-used XBox, followed by my Switch, and then in a distant third is my Series X.
Re: Suddenly Getting Banned From Microsoft Rewards? You're Not Alone
@Kieduss Blatantly incorrect. I have one account, only earn points from my Xbox and the app, and haven’t abused a damn thing. My account got suspended sometime between yesterday afternoon and this morning.
I suggest not making sweeping generalizations in the future. You’ll look less foolish.
@Lucylu1983 Looks like mine is back up and running now. Thanks for that info!
Re: Ubisoft Has Some Crazy 'Just For You' Deals Right Now On Xbox
Mmmm, cheap Ubislop to start the year!
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Posts New Year Message As Studio Is 'Reborn' Outside Of Xbox
@fabio1 I had the same thought. I mean, obviously MS didn’t think they were good enough to keep them, soooooo…
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Posts New Year Message As Studio Is 'Reborn' Outside Of Xbox
@Sol4ris I more meant that the people who play said games and then don’t buy them is sad.
Obviously you are DEFINITELY an outlier, as am I! But (and yes, this is anecdotal, I know) my series X-owning friend at work has bought exactly three games since getting the X at launch. He’s a gamepass guy. Hell, the only reason he still has Forza Horizon 4 is because I bought it for him digitally over the holidays.
He’s the only other series X owner I know, so my knowledge pool is admittely small. But he’s definitely not an outlier from what I see online, and that’s why I find it sad.
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Posts New Year Message As Studio Is 'Reborn' Outside Of Xbox
@Rog-X Tell me you find every opportunity to disparage Sony in an article unrelated to Sony without telling me you find every opportunity to disparage Sony in an article unrelated to Sony.
@LogicStrikesAgain “Especially if it’s not made exclusive to a platform with a userbase that isn’t particularly prone to buying games.”
Just this. The number of people who wait for games to hit GamePass is sad. That said, I freely admit GamePass DID get me to buy Hi-Fi Rush digitally after trying it out on my Series X. Unfortunately, most people wouldn’t actually buy the game afterwards.
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Posts New Year Message As Studio Is 'Reborn' Outside Of Xbox
I so look forward to more from these folks. MS did a very dumb thing, closing this studio.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Saga Just Got A Whole Lot More Confusing
@Friendly Series X and PS5 have 16.
6 GB difference is…not a small amount.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Saga Just Got A Whole Lot More Confusing
Heh. This was reported on Push Square just before I went to bed, and I mentioned that the Pure XBox comments when it got reported here should be interesting.
Just woke up and reading all these now. I love being right. munches popcorn
That said, it’s too bad the series S continues to be a millstone around dev’s necks, having to release for S and X simultaneously.
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones Success Has Apparently Left Disney Wanting More
@donv2135 …what?
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones Success Has Apparently Left Disney Wanting More
@trev666 Doubtful. The only games to do that in recent memory are Star Wars Survivor and some of the Call of Duty games.
PS games in general are complete on-disc, other than day one patches. Since this is a port that gets to cook a few more months, there is zero reason for this to not be a complete release.
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones Success Has Apparently Left Disney Wanting More
@trev666 Ah. I keep forgetting MS went with lower capacity discs in their infinite wisdom. They could have gone with two or three discs, FYI. CDPR did it with Cyberpunk’s complete series X release.
Guess my decision to wait to purchase the PS5 physical version has paid off!
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones Success Has Apparently Left Disney Wanting More
@Balaam_ Does the series X disc version not have the full game? Serious question, as there’s no XBone copy so smart delivery is thankfully not involved. Or was there a ginormous day one patch?
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones Success Has Apparently Left Disney Wanting More
@Bigmanfan It’s amazing, honestly. This game was more interesting and entertaining than those two films combined.
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones Success Has Apparently Left Disney Wanting More
I definitely look forward to a sequel. There were some odd dialogue-repetition bugs that popped up, including characters who were nowhere near to me having audible speech, but other than that I had a blast. Was very pleasantly surprised.
Will definitely be buying the PS5 physical copy now that I’ve rented it on GP.
Re: Halo Suffers Massive Leak On Christmas Day, Internal Documents & Dev Builds Revealed
@LogicStrikesAgain Perfect reply to whataboutism!
Re: Xbox Dominated The US Gaming Charts In Indiana Jones' Launch Week
@Sol4ris I have to admit, I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how good this game is. I’ve enjoyed this game more than Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny combined, that’s for sure.
Re: Xbox Dominated The US Gaming Charts In Indiana Jones' Launch Week
Interesting. I’m currently playing it on gamepass, and the only reason I haven’t bought a physical copy for series X now is that I would prefer to have that for my PS5.
That said, if I see a physical disc copy on discount for series X, I’ll happily snag it for the collection!
Re: Poll: How Many Xbox Games Have You Actually Bought In 2024?
Well, I’ve only had an Xbox since April of this year, but let’s see here!
37 physical games
35 digital games, including some free-to-buy like the first two Crackdowns, and the recent EA freebies.
Not bad for eight months of ownership!
…don’t ask me how many PS or Switch games I’ve purchased this year, though…
Re: Four Xbox Games We've Given 'Outstanding' 10/10 Scores To In 2024
@Cikajovazmaj Niche games are capable of being a 10. “Niche” doesn’t automatically reduce a rating.
Re: EA's Next 'Free' Xbox Game Is Now Available To Claim
@Altaria_97 Vice versa, be safe and be merry!
Re: EA's Next 'Free' Xbox Game Is Now Available To Claim
@Altaria_97 Showed up just fine on mobile web browser for me, claimed this and Battlefront both on Xbox.com.
Re: Video: 30 Must-Play Xbox Games For Under $30 This Holiday Season
@HelloCraigo Speaking purely for myself, I’d rather see a list of games than have to watch a thirteen minute video. No offense intended, I just prefer reading for a few moments to glean some info and then move on!
Re: Video: 30 Must-Play Xbox Games For Under $30 This Holiday Season
@Scirius Thank you for saving me time!
Re: Video: 30 Must-Play Xbox Games For Under $30 This Holiday Season
@Overzeal Came here to say this, was not disappointed.
Re: Xbox Appears To Be Getting More Ex-PlayStation Exclusives In 2025
I mean…technically some PS exclusives HAVE come to XBox. Yakuza games, the Persona series…
God of War or Uncharted or the like never will, though.