@themightyant Won’t know till the game comes out. I said “a number” which is obviously more than zero.
I wouldn’t underestimate the “noisy malcontents” though. Lately they have a history of being pretty spot-on as far as game success. glances at Veilguard
I’m betting it will sell, but it won’t be a major success. All the controversy and missteps Ubisoft made, plus pissed off Japanese fans…that’s not a great combo.
But there are die-hard AC fans out there who don’t care and just want another AC game, and that’s okay too.
It’ll be interesting if Ubisoft touts sales numbers or “engagement” numbers like EA did for Veilguard.
Every time I hear about this guy and his opinions, I realize how lucky we are that he hasn’t touched the God of War series since GoW 2 back in the day.
Having never played any of the series except a tiny bit of the remastered original, I genuinely don’t care about multiplayer at all. I want to do the story when it finally comes time for me to clean these off my backlog.
@xboxjapanfan Could always, you know, just buy them…
Thankfully all the Yakuza/Like a Dragon games got physical releases on PS4/5 (and Dead Souks on PS3!) and are on my shelf, even Man Who Erased His Name which I had to import. But by gum, they’re mine.
@themightyant I WANTED to pick it up for PS5, but the odd cutscene bug just made me avoid it. It’s too bad, PS5 is where I’d rather play it but the devs have said that bug will never be fixed.
Veilguard is one of this month’s PS Plus Essential games, so if you have both Xbox and PS5…snag it there rather than paying even that sale price. If you really have to play it, which I wouldn’t advise, but still!
Second, that $19.79 price for Robocop ain’t great. I got it for cheaper than that on XBox a month or two ago, and it was also like $8.99 on PS5 last week. Hold off, be strong, it’ll drop more!
Pretty sure it isn’t a need for new hardware, it’s that MS is making no compelling argument to buy THEIRS now.
Note that Sony’s dropped the least. People wanting a Switch know that the Switch 2 is on the way, and MS has done very little to push the XBox hardware.
Still happy I snagged a series X last year. But with Forza Horizon 5 coming to PS5…
Visited a friend who had the OG XBox back in the day and he showed me a few games. I wasn’t overwhelmingly impressed, and happily continued being a PS and Nintendo guy.
April of last year, I decided to get a series X and check out the Halo series and a few others, along with some BC improved games. Probably would have sold the console after that, but I discovered Forza Horizon 4 and 5, and that got me to stay.
Of course, now that 5 (and likely 6) are coming to PS…well, I’ll still keep my series X. I picked up a decent library of games for it, though my PS consoles will always have pride of place!
As far as I’m concerned, the only miss they’ve had is not porting Dead Souls to current consoles, plus the other Ishin!-style game from years back. All their games have been excellent.
@Kilamanjaro The physical Swirch and PS4 copies are getting some serious discounts lately, and both my copies are opened JUST so I don’t get tempted to resell them down the road.
Yes, Veilguard failed because of the lack of live service. It wasn’t the bugs, the bad writing, the virtue signaling, the dialog options bearing no resemblance to what your character actually says, or anything like that.
Nope. It was that darn missing live service. Never mind that EA’s football/soccer game was also a failure, and that was its usual connected and looty self.
@IOI Every platform becomes unsupported eventually. If MS stopped making new consoles tomorrow, how does that devalue your current game library? Plus, digital purchases are just indefinite rentals anyway, they aren’t forever.
Besides, Sony doesn’t make PS3 or Vita consoles anymore, yet I can still download my purchased games for them, even though they’re indefinite rentals for essentially dead platforms.
Also, that’s awesome about cross play, thanks for that info! Cross-save would be AMAZING.
I bought my first Xbox, a series X last year so I could play some of the exclusives I’d missed out on in the past. Halo, Gears of War, etc, then I’d sell the console, satisfied I’d tried them out.
I’m not a driving game fan. At all. So out of curiosity I fired up Horizon 4 on gamepass expecting to play for ten minutes and then delete.
Nearly a year later, I have bought Forza Horizon 2 and 3 on disc, and the ultimate editions of 4 and 5 digitally with no plans to sell the series X.
That said? I will also get Horizon 5 on PS5, possibly even the ultimate edition, and it will also be my preferred platform for Horizon 6 whenever that comes out. I HOPE for day one on there, but I’ll happily play it on gamepass or just buy it outright on X as well as PS5 if it isn’t. Hell, I might buy it for both platforms anyway, just because I’ve enjoyed the series so much. Put your money where your mouth is, right?
Maybe MS will implement cross-play for the Horizon series future releases so XBox and PS5 owners can enjoy the playground together!
It could mean total sales, but that’s really doubtful. It could mean sales-before-refunding for folks who got it on Steam, tried it and hated it and got their money back. It could include people who played it via GeForce Now for free.
Words matter. If this was actual games sold where they got some appreciable money back, they’d actually say SOLD, not engaged.
@bazchillin “While PlayStation made cuts like removing CD playback and lacking UHD Blu-ray support on the PS4 and PS5”
Erm. You do know the PS5 is a fully functional 4k bluray player, right? Every PS5 with a disc drive is a 4k bluray player. That said, I invested in a separate 4k player to spare my PS5 and Series X’s optical drives some wear and tear.
As for the cd part…a few years ago I was surprised to learn that the PS4 didn’t have the ability to play cds…and then I remembered that I ripped all my CDs years ago and have never used my game console to play music since the PS2. Genuinely surprised that the series X can play them. I learned something new today, and I hope you did as well with the PS5 and 4k movie playing!
@Kieduss Blatantly incorrect. I have one account, only earn points from my Xbox and the app, and haven’t abused a damn thing. My account got suspended sometime between yesterday afternoon and this morning.
I suggest not making sweeping generalizations in the future. You’ll look less foolish.
@Lucylu1983 Looks like mine is back up and running now. Thanks for that info!
@Sol4ris I more meant that the people who play said games and then don’t buy them is sad.
Obviously you are DEFINITELY an outlier, as am I! But (and yes, this is anecdotal, I know) my series X-owning friend at work has bought exactly three games since getting the X at launch. He’s a gamepass guy. Hell, the only reason he still has Forza Horizon 4 is because I bought it for him digitally over the holidays.
He’s the only other series X owner I know, so my knowledge pool is admittely small. But he’s definitely not an outlier from what I see online, and that’s why I find it sad.
@Rog-X Tell me you find every opportunity to disparage Sony in an article unrelated to Sony without telling me you find every opportunity to disparage Sony in an article unrelated to Sony.
@LogicStrikesAgain “Especially if it’s not made exclusive to a platform with a userbase that isn’t particularly prone to buying games.”
Just this. The number of people who wait for games to hit GamePass is sad. That said, I freely admit GamePass DID get me to buy Hi-Fi Rush digitally after trying it out on my Series X. Unfortunately, most people wouldn’t actually buy the game afterwards.
Heh. This was reported on Push Square just before I went to bed, and I mentioned that the Pure XBox comments when it got reported here should be interesting.
Just woke up and reading all these now. I love being right. munches popcorn
That said, it’s too bad the series S continues to be a millstone around dev’s necks, having to release for S and X simultaneously.
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Re: Best Xbox Exclusives
In a few months, Forza Horizon 5 needs to be removed from this list.
Re: Talking Point: Assassin's Creed Fans, Do You Think Feudal Japan Will Live Up To The Hype?
@themightyant Won’t know till the game comes out. I said “a number” which is obviously more than zero.
I wouldn’t underestimate the “noisy malcontents” though. Lately they have a history of being pretty spot-on as far as game success. glances at Veilguard
Re: Talking Point: Assassin's Creed Fans, Do You Think Feudal Japan Will Live Up To The Hype?
@Kaloudz And that’s the thing. You found it stupid. Other gamers found it hilarious, others found it insulting, including a number of Japanese gamers.
Funny thing about viewpoints. There’s more than one!
Re: Talking Point: Assassin's Creed Fans, Do You Think Feudal Japan Will Live Up To The Hype?
I’m betting it will sell, but it won’t be a major success. All the controversy and missteps Ubisoft made, plus pissed off Japanese fans…that’s not a great combo.
But there are die-hard AC fans out there who don’t care and just want another AC game, and that’s okay too.
It’ll be interesting if Ubisoft touts sales numbers or “engagement” numbers like EA did for Veilguard.
Re: Bethesda Provides Update On Starfield DLC & Future Plans For Xbox RPG
“fans are getting restless”
Wait, there are enough Starfield fans to be restless about this game?
Re: Starfield Has Possibly The Best Single-Player Narrative Of All Time, Says God Of War Director
Every time I hear about this guy and his opinions, I realize how lucky we are that he hasn’t touched the God of War series since GoW 2 back in the day.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Disappointed If A 'Gears Collection' Didn't Include Multiplayer?
Having never played any of the series except a tiny bit of the remastered original, I genuinely don’t care about multiplayer at all. I want to do the story when it finally comes time for me to clean these off my backlog.
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City Is Now Its 'Lowest Price Ever' On The Xbox Store
Worth it. I got the regular game for cheaper last year, but this price is still worth it.
Re: Seven Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Early March 2025
@xboxjapanfan Could always, you know, just buy them…
Thankfully all the Yakuza/Like a Dragon games got physical releases on PS4/5 (and Dead Souks on PS3!) and are on my shelf, even Man Who Erased His Name which I had to import. But by gum, they’re mine.
Re: Xbox Discounts Tons Of AAA Games In This Week's 'Best Rated' & 'Open World' Sales
@themightyant I WANTED to pick it up for PS5, but the odd cutscene bug just made me avoid it. It’s too bad, PS5 is where I’d rather play it but the devs have said that bug will never be fixed.
Re: Xbox Discounts Tons Of AAA Games In This Week's 'Best Rated' & 'Open World' Sales
A note on a couple of games here.
Veilguard is one of this month’s PS Plus Essential games, so if you have both Xbox and PS5…snag it there rather than paying even that sale price. If you really have to play it, which I wouldn’t advise, but still!
Second, that $19.79 price for Robocop ain’t great. I got it for cheaper than that on XBox a month or two ago, and it was also like $8.99 on PS5 last week. Hold off, be strong, it’ll drop more!
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Down Almost 50% As Fans Question Stock Levels In Certain Regions
@Medic_alert I can’t blame them for it. I can DESPISE them for it, but can’t blame them.
Oh, well. Clearly MS doesn’t want more of my money, and I’m happy to go along with their wishes!
Re: Xbox Series X|S Sales Down Almost 50% As Fans Question Stock Levels In Certain Regions
@Medic_alert Which is guaranteed to make my first Xbox (series X) my last Xbox.
Re: Lots Of Games Are Starting Off March With 90% Discounts On Xbox
@Ricky-Spanish It was $4.99 last year. $9.99 is too much.
Re: Warner Bros. Cancels Wonder Woman, Shuts Down Three Studios
@dreadful And yet Rocksteady (the studio that made said SS game) escaped unscathed.
Kinda makes you wonder what kind of traumatic brain injury the people in charge at WB have, doesn’t it?
Re: Xbox Has Officially Delayed Fable Into 2026
@Cakefish I mean, it COULD happen, but I’m absolutely assuming 2026 unless it ends up being a Switch 2 launch title somehow!
Re: Xbox Has Officially Delayed Fable Into 2026
Now it’s a race between this game and Metroid Prime 4 as to which will release first.
Re: 'Mecha BREAK' Dev Talks Xbox Console Exclusivity & Future Game Pass Plans
@ValentineMeikin FF14 and Warframe also run on the base PS4, so automatically the requirements are lower.
Re: Xbox Indie Showcase (February 2025): Date, Start Times, And What To Expect
@Trmn8r Never underestimate the ability of IGN to achieve ever higher levels of cringe.
Re: January Hardware Sales The Worst Since 2020 In The US As Xbox Consoles Decline By 50%
Pretty sure it isn’t a need for new hardware, it’s that MS is making no compelling argument to buy THEIRS now.
Note that Sony’s dropped the least. People wanting a Switch know that the Switch 2 is on the way, and MS has done very little to push the XBox hardware.
Still happy I snagged a series X last year. But with Forza Horizon 5 coming to PS5…
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza In Hawaii
@TheBeardiest I have P5 for PS4, and P5R for PS4, PS5, Switch and XBox.
Don’t ask me about every other physical release for PS4/XBox/3DS/Switch for the other games, because I only have so much free time in my day.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza In Hawaii
@TheBeardiest I’m not alone!
I do the same for Persona games as well, because I’m an idiot.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza In Hawaii
RGG Studio is one of the few out there that delivers consistently entertaining games these days.
My PS5 copy will be waiting for me on Friday, and will also pick it up for XBox on disc down the road, as I like supporting these folks.
Re: Talking Point: When Did You First Get Introduced To The World Of Xbox?
Visited a friend who had the OG XBox back in the day and he showed me a few games. I wasn’t overwhelmingly impressed, and happily continued being a PS and Nintendo guy.
April of last year, I decided to get a series X and check out the Halo series and a few others, along with some BC improved games. Probably would have sold the console after that, but I discovered Forza Horizon 4 and 5, and that got me to stay.
Of course, now that 5 (and likely 6) are coming to PS…well, I’ll still keep my series X. I picked up a decent library of games for it, though my PS consoles will always have pride of place!
Re: Avowed Review Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think So Far
After seeing the universally glowing reviews for Veilguard…I don’t believe any of these critics anymore.
I’ll wait for some folks I trust more to give me their verdict down the road.
Re: Xbox Gets Its Biggest Free Demo Of The Year So Far, Available Today
As far as I’m concerned, the only miss they’ve had is not porting Dead Souls to current consoles, plus the other Ishin!-style game from years back. All their games have been excellent.
Re: Talking Point: What Would You Want From A New Batman Game?
I don’t even want a new game. I want a remaster of Arkham Origins. I don’t trust current!Rocksteady to make a good new game anymore.
(Yes, I know if one has the 360 disc one can play it via BC, but I do not have said disc.)
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection Available Now On Xbox
@Kilamanjaro The physical Swirch and PS4 copies are getting some serious discounts lately, and both my copies are opened JUST so I don’t get tempted to resell them down the road.
Re: EA Seems To Think That Live Service Would Have Helped Xbox RPG Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Yes, Veilguard failed because of the lack of live service. It wasn’t the bugs, the bad writing, the virtue signaling, the dialog options bearing no resemblance to what your character actually says, or anything like that.
Nope. It was that darn missing live service. Never mind that EA’s football/soccer game was also a failure, and that was its usual connected and looty self.
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection Available Now On Xbox
Too bad this (to my knowledge) isn’t getting a physical release for XBox.
I’ll live with my Switch and PS4 physical copies, but I’m glad more folks will get to play these!
Re: Former PlayStation Exec Says 'The Game Is Changing' As Xbox Goes Multiplatform
@FatGuyInLilCoat Luxury. I go twice a DAY and have to show the therapist where on my Robot White controller MS touched me.
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
@IOI Every platform becomes unsupported eventually. If MS stopped making new consoles tomorrow, how does that devalue your current game library? Plus, digital purchases are just indefinite rentals anyway, they aren’t forever.
Besides, Sony doesn’t make PS3 or Vita consoles anymore, yet I can still download my purchased games for them, even though they’re indefinite rentals for essentially dead platforms.
Also, that’s awesome about cross play, thanks for that info! Cross-save would be AMAZING.
Re: Soapbox: As A Huge Forza Fan, I'm Fine With Horizon 5 Going To PS5
I bought my first Xbox, a series X last year so I could play some of the exclusives I’d missed out on in the past. Halo, Gears of War, etc, then I’d sell the console, satisfied I’d tried them out.
I’m not a driving game fan. At all. So out of curiosity I fired up Horizon 4 on gamepass expecting to play for ten minutes and then delete.
Nearly a year later, I have bought Forza Horizon 2 and 3 on disc, and the ultimate editions of 4 and 5 digitally with no plans to sell the series X.
That said? I will also get Horizon 5 on PS5, possibly even the ultimate edition, and it will also be my preferred platform for Horizon 6 whenever that comes out. I HOPE for day one on there, but I’ll happily play it on gamepass or just buy it outright on X as well as PS5 if it isn’t. Hell, I might buy it for both platforms anyway, just because I’ve enjoyed the series so much. Put your money where your mouth is, right?
Maybe MS will implement cross-play for the Horizon series future releases so XBox and PS5 owners can enjoy the playground together!
Re: Poll: Are You Buying The 'Early Access' Upgrade For Avowed?
@Rog-X I too like to pay to play buggy things sooner.
Oh, no, wait I don’t.
Re: EA Says Two Of Its Major AAA Titles 'Underperformed' In 2024
1.5 million engaged could mean a lot of things.
It could mean total sales, but that’s really doubtful. It could mean sales-before-refunding for folks who got it on Steam, tried it and hated it and got their money back. It could include people who played it via GeForce Now for free.
Words matter. If this was actual games sold where they got some appreciable money back, they’d actually say SOLD, not engaged.
Re: PS5 Pro Surprisingly Loses To Xbox Series X In HDMI Bandwidth Test
@bazchillin “While PlayStation made cuts like removing CD playback and lacking UHD Blu-ray support on the PS4 and PS5”
Erm. You do know the PS5 is a fully functional 4k bluray player, right? Every PS5 with a disc drive is a 4k bluray player. That said, I invested in a separate 4k player to spare my PS5 and Series X’s optical drives some wear and tear.
As for the cd part…a few years ago I was surprised to learn that the PS4 didn’t have the ability to play cds…and then I remembered that I ripped all my CDs years ago and have never used my game console to play music since the PS2. Genuinely surprised that the series X can play them. I learned something new today, and I hope you did as well with the PS5 and 4k movie playing!
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Series X|S Owners, How's Your Storage Looking In 2025?
My series X has a 1 TB expansion card and then I have a 1 TB external drive for BC games and a few other offloaded items.
My main console, my PS5, has a 1 TB M.2 SSD installed and I have an 8 TB external drive with all my PS4/offloaded PS5 games installed.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Reportedly Chose Buying Studios Over 'Winding Down' Xbox In 2021
chooses between ending XBox and buying many studios
buys many studios
closes studios
Profit!
Re: Ubisoft Still Looking For Buyers Amidst Assassins Creed Shadows Delay
“We really need to get this done before Shadows sinks us, and we’re being very aggressive in escaping this sinking ship with SOMETHING.”
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, This Time To March 2025
Well, that gives Ubisoft extra time to do some other stupid thing and annoy the fan base more.
Always give Ubisoft more rope. It’s always entertaining.
Re: Ubisoft Showcases Overhauled Assassin's Creed Shadows Gameplay Ahead Of Xbox Release
Ah, Ubisoft Death Knell: The Game. This should be an interesting launch.
Re: Poll: Which 'Xbox' Devices Will You Spend The Most Time With In 2025?
Since MS says everything is now an XBox, my PS5 is my most-used XBox, followed by my Switch, and then in a distant third is my Series X.
Re: Suddenly Getting Banned From Microsoft Rewards? You're Not Alone
@Kieduss Blatantly incorrect. I have one account, only earn points from my Xbox and the app, and haven’t abused a damn thing. My account got suspended sometime between yesterday afternoon and this morning.
I suggest not making sweeping generalizations in the future. You’ll look less foolish.
@Lucylu1983 Looks like mine is back up and running now. Thanks for that info!
Re: Ubisoft Has Some Crazy 'Just For You' Deals Right Now On Xbox
Mmmm, cheap Ubislop to start the year!
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Posts New Year Message As Studio Is 'Reborn' Outside Of Xbox
@fabio1 I had the same thought. I mean, obviously MS didn’t think they were good enough to keep them, soooooo…
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Posts New Year Message As Studio Is 'Reborn' Outside Of Xbox
@Sol4ris I more meant that the people who play said games and then don’t buy them is sad.
Obviously you are DEFINITELY an outlier, as am I! But (and yes, this is anecdotal, I know) my series X-owning friend at work has bought exactly three games since getting the X at launch. He’s a gamepass guy. Hell, the only reason he still has Forza Horizon 4 is because I bought it for him digitally over the holidays.
He’s the only other series X owner I know, so my knowledge pool is admittely small. But he’s definitely not an outlier from what I see online, and that’s why I find it sad.
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Posts New Year Message As Studio Is 'Reborn' Outside Of Xbox
@Rog-X Tell me you find every opportunity to disparage Sony in an article unrelated to Sony without telling me you find every opportunity to disparage Sony in an article unrelated to Sony.
@LogicStrikesAgain “Especially if it’s not made exclusive to a platform with a userbase that isn’t particularly prone to buying games.”
Just this. The number of people who wait for games to hit GamePass is sad. That said, I freely admit GamePass DID get me to buy Hi-Fi Rush digitally after trying it out on my Series X. Unfortunately, most people wouldn’t actually buy the game afterwards.
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Dev Posts New Year Message As Studio Is 'Reborn' Outside Of Xbox
I so look forward to more from these folks. MS did a very dumb thing, closing this studio.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Saga Just Got A Whole Lot More Confusing
@Friendly Series X and PS5 have 16.
6 GB difference is…not a small amount.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Saga Just Got A Whole Lot More Confusing
Heh. This was reported on Push Square just before I went to bed, and I mentioned that the Pure XBox comments when it got reported here should be interesting.
Just woke up and reading all these now. I love being right. munches popcorn
That said, it’s too bad the series S continues to be a millstone around dev’s necks, having to release for S and X simultaneously.