Even I’m saying this was a good showcase. Clockwork Revolution and No Ghosts In… were very intriguing to me, and P4R had me shout YES as I was watching.
I’m content.Though that last COD reveal was just…utterly bleh.
@AccessibleDaydream Yeah, I actually will be getting that tomorrow as well! But that Onn brand card seems to be a freaking unicorn, no other brand is selling that capacity anywhere near that cheap. But I’ve had decent luck with Onn in the past.
I’m shocked that Walmart of all companies is putting a card like that out at that price. If it spontaneously catches fire, I’ll know why.
Well, MS’s physical releases on PS5 have been key disc games, so it’ll go well with the key card games that all but two third party Switch 2 physical launch titles got. (I bought Cyberpunk and Rune Factory Guardians of Azuma for my S2 since they were actual game releases, not those key jokes)
But MS releasing games like Forza Horizon 5, Indy and others for Switch 2 can only be a good thing.
@BAMozzy “Physical media doesn't need to contain the entire Game Code as it does not RUN from the disc - it has to be downloaded and installed onto the Internal storage regardless of whether you download from Disc or Internet.”
The point is that if the data is on the DISC, then you don’t have to pray that you can still download the game from servers in the future, it can just be copied from the disc and installed regardless.
That’s the point. There is a LARGE difference between the two things and they are not comparable. In one scenario you can happily install the game to the console regardless of internet status. In the other, you cannot.
@Balaam_ 100% agreed! My backlog is now large enough that I can safely skip releases like this and focus on games I actually own!
@XboxNumberOne looks at my game shelf with lots of physical games Sure looks like I own these complete single player games and access to them can’t be removed…
@Scrubchub @Vectrex XBox users have had a console generation to get used to Smart Delivery forcing you to fully download series X versions of disc based games when there’s a perfectly playable XBone version on the disc, plus gamepass as well.
PS owners haven’t, and the ire on the PS side is pretty understandable. To this day, 99% of all PS disc based games have the game on the disc other than post-pressing patches. Now MS is shoving these discs-as-download-voucher releases at us and I think that even if you don’t think it’s a big deal, it’s understandable that others kinda do.
This isn’t a win for anyone other than Microsoft and developers who lease you games indefinitely and can revoke your access at any moment. Better hope your account never gets banned for a wrongful reason.
Since getting my series X last year, I’ve had GPU a total of nine months.
I tried a decent number of games but didn’t really focus on any other than High On Life and Indiana Jones.
GPU is definitely not a huge draw for me and once I use the last 3-month code I’m still holding onto, I doubt I’ll uae it again. I’m one of those oddballs that likes owning his games.
@Sindayl This. I got my series X purely to try out some backward compatible stuff and play some XBox exclusives. If it weren’t for Forza Horizon 4 and 5 I’d likely have sold it already. I’m glad I kept it due to the greater BC available (Batman Arkham Origins on a modern console, yay!) but definitely feel no need to make the XBox a GPU machine.
@Godot25 I don’t doubt that there’ll be a “Hook*rs and Blow” $200 edition of GTA6, so I figured $120 was lowballing it while still being slightly absurd.
PS5 $499. Series X $599. Both with blu-ray drives.
…MS had better pray Sony raises their hardware prices in the next few months. That is a monstrously huge disparity in price for essentially the same capability hardware.
One’s blood had better have XBox Green flowing in it to go for an X over a 5 in this current situation. Of course, for all I know, Sony will jump them to match tomorrow…
Well, guess I’m glad I got my X last year. My first and last XBox!
Still on the fence about keeping my Switch 2 preorder. This might just be my last console generation if things continue this way. Which is honestly fine, my backlog is so massive across all platforms that I could stop buying games today and be good till I’m in my seventies!
@Neither_scene The disc didn’t just contain the license on PS4. It had the whole game. Single player, at least. I don’t touch GTA online. So specious argument there.
@Neither_scene All of that is why I still buy my movies and tv shows on disc, and I avoid disc based games that don’t have the whole game (minus patches, obviously) on the actual disc. Exceptions for games like FF14 and Helldivers 2 that require being online with content patches and such are obviously made!
My concept of ownership hasn’t changed over the years: If I have the disc, I own it regardless of what the publisher wants to say. Heck, I still buy the occasional music CD!
Prove me wrong. I’m willing to wager more XBox owners played this game via gamepass than bought it on XBox. Heck, I’m one of them!
@fiendish-beaver Well said. As a newer XBox owner (first one was a Series X last year) it’s actually a little sad that this will also likely be my last XBox. And I picked up a fair number of games for this system, actually paid real money and everything! Definitely not a Gamepass machine for me except for small bursts.
Sad to see this. Makes me wonder what the comparable numbers are for PS5 consoles. I’m betting the ratio of disc to digital only leans heavier towards disc, with MS’s huge gamepass push.
For Americans interested in SW Outlaws, Amazon is trying to get rid of their “Amazon Exclusive” disc version at $34.99 plus a 30% coupon. For $24.49 pre-tax, I’m willing to give this Ubisoft product a shot. Especially since they’re likely not making much off this purchase.
@Millionski I have zero issue with Nintendo not discounting their games much. People still buy em, why should they? Obviously their sales are good enough that they don’t have to pull a Ubisoft and slash the price by 75% three months after release.
Now the launch price for Mario Kart World, THAT I have issues with…
I genuinely don’t understand how this was even an issue, unless MS’s online store was just being mulish. You’d think “set price to free” would be the simplest thing in the world.
That said, well done to the devs for making sure this will happen properly in the hopefully near future.
@UndyingInsurgent95 You expect Larian Studios to just 50-75% discount a game that STILL sells, STILL gets played and yesterday just got a cross-play update people have been anticipating for over a year?
Nah, this is still a reasonable price for a game like BG3.
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Re: Reaction: Xbox Games Showcase 2025 Was Just OK, But Next Year Should Be Amazing
I’m a PS and Switch fanboy.
Even I’m saying this was a good showcase. Clockwork Revolution and No Ghosts In… were very intriguing to me, and P4R had me shout YES as I was watching.
I’m content.Though that last COD reveal was just…utterly bleh.
Re: 'There Are No Ghosts At The Grand' Will Be An Xbox Game Pass Title Unlike Any Other
I admit that the trailer started out with me completely uninterested…and then the Lovecraft kicked in and they had my attention.
Re: It's Official! Persona 4 Revival Arrives Day One On Xbox Game Pass
@N00BiSH Missed opportunity indeed, but I will still play the absolute hell out of this!
Re: Last Chance! What Are Your Final Hopes For The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
Persona 4 remake.
That’s all I’ll be watching this show for.
Re: Talking Point: Switch 2 Owners, Should Xbox Embrace Nintendo's New System?
@AccessibleDaydream Yeah, I actually will be getting that tomorrow as well! But that Onn brand card seems to be a freaking unicorn, no other brand is selling that capacity anywhere near that cheap. But I’ve had decent luck with Onn in the past.
I’m shocked that Walmart of all companies is putting a card like that out at that price. If it spontaneously catches fire, I’ll know why.
Re: Talking Point: Switch 2 Owners, Should Xbox Embrace Nintendo's New System?
@AccessibleDaydream glances at prices of microsd express cards
I mean…it’s a LITTLE bit of an issue…
Re: Talking Point: Switch 2 Owners, Should Xbox Embrace Nintendo's New System?
Well, MS’s physical releases on PS5 have been key disc games, so it’ll go well with the key card games that all but two third party Switch 2 physical launch titles got. (I bought Cyberpunk and Rune Factory Guardians of Azuma for my S2 since they were actual game releases, not those key jokes)
But MS releasing games like Forza Horizon 5, Indy and others for Switch 2 can only be a good thing.
Re: Xbox Has Reportedly 'Sidelined' Plans For A 2027 First-Party Handheld
glances at the Switch 2 and then at MS jacking up prices across the board
Huh. Can’t imagine why MS might put these plans on hold. Total mystery.
Re: Talking Point: What Game Franchises Would You Pay $80 For On Xbox?
@GuyinPA75 That’s what I was alluding to.
Re: Xbox Mobile Store Plans Being 'Stymied' By Apple, Says Microsoft
Perhaps MS should make their own phones that they can put anything they want on?
Oh…wait. That didn’t work out well last time.
Re: Talking Point: What Game Franchises Would You Pay $80 For On Xbox?
Not Borderlands 4, that’s for sure. To hades with Pitchford.
Re: One Of The Worst Xbox Games Of All Time Has Dropped To $2.99
I would need to recieve a $10 account credit to allow this to be in my library.
And I voluntarily paid five bucks for SUICIDE SQUAD.
Re: Avowed Game Director Leaves Xbox & Obsidian For Netflix Studio
Ah, Avowed. The game that wouldn’t let Fleekazoid move forward or left.
I look forward to seeing what comes next!
Re: Everyone's Going Nuts For 'Cookie Clicker' As Xbox Port Gets Announced
Trust me…there’s more to it than mindless clicking.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Fans Disappointed As Definitive Edition Launches On Xbox
Imagine feeling surprised and betrayed that a game is feature-complete.
Re: Warner Bros Games Revenue Declines By Almost 50% At The Start Of 2025
As the great Jeremy Clarkson would say, “Oh no! Anyway…”
Re: Xbox's DOOM: The Dark Ages Seemingly Has Tiny Amount Of Content On Disc
@BAMozzy “Physical media doesn't need to contain the entire Game Code as it does not RUN from the disc - it has to be downloaded and installed onto the Internal storage regardless of whether you download from Disc or Internet.”
The point is that if the data is on the DISC, then you don’t have to pray that you can still download the game from servers in the future, it can just be copied from the disc and installed regardless.
That’s the point. There is a LARGE difference between the two things and they are not comparable. In one scenario you can happily install the game to the console regardless of internet status. In the other, you cannot.
@Balaam_ 100% agreed! My backlog is now large enough that I can safely skip releases like this and focus on games I actually own!
@XboxNumberOne looks at my game shelf with lots of physical games Sure looks like I own these complete single player games and access to them can’t be removed…
Re: Xbox's DOOM: The Dark Ages Seemingly Has Tiny Amount Of Content On Disc
@Ricky-Spanish I mean…it sure SOUNDS like you’re gloating, but if you say you’re not…
Re: Xbox's DOOM: The Dark Ages Seemingly Has Tiny Amount Of Content On Disc
@Scrubchub @Vectrex XBox users have had a console generation to get used to Smart Delivery forcing you to fully download series X versions of disc based games when there’s a perfectly playable XBone version on the disc, plus gamepass as well.
PS owners haven’t, and the ire on the PS side is pretty understandable. To this day, 99% of all PS disc based games have the game on the disc other than post-pressing patches. Now MS is shoving these discs-as-download-voucher releases at us and I think that even if you don’t think it’s a big deal, it’s understandable that others kinda do.
Re: Xbox's DOOM: The Dark Ages Seemingly Has Tiny Amount Of Content On Disc
@Ricky-Spanish Gloat much?
This isn’t a win for anyone other than Microsoft and developers who lease you games indefinitely and can revoke your access at any moment. Better hope your account never gets banned for a wrongful reason.
Re: Xbox Developer Shares Insight Into Why Physical Releases Are 'Complex'
Oh, well, if it’s “soooo much easier” then never mind then!
Re: FTC Suffers Another Major Blow In Fight Against Xbox Activsion Deal
Wait, I thought this was over already?
Re: Opinion: If Xbox Is 'Just' A Game Pass Machine, That's Still Enough For Me
Since getting my series X last year, I’ve had GPU a total of nine months.
I tried a decent number of games but didn’t really focus on any other than High On Life and Indiana Jones.
GPU is definitely not a huge draw for me and once I use the last 3-month code I’m still holding onto, I doubt I’ll uae it again. I’m one of those oddballs that likes owning his games.
@Sindayl This. I got my series X purely to try out some backward compatible stuff and play some XBox exclusives. If it weren’t for Forza Horizon 4 and 5 I’d likely have sold it already. I’m glad I kept it due to the greater BC available (Batman Arkham Origins on a modern console, yay!) but definitely feel no need to make the XBox a GPU machine.
Re: Opinion: Nothing Will Come Close To GTA 6 As An Xbox Series X|S Showpiece
@RadioHedgeFund As will we all. But part of your disparagement was that it must have been done on some high end machine to look that good.
It wasn’t. It was live-rendered in a ps5. As all GTA games have done with their cutscenes since 3.
Re: Opinion: Nothing Will Come Close To GTA 6 As An Xbox Series X|S Showpiece
@RadioHedgeFund The trailer was generated with a PS5. Not even a PS5 Pro, just a regular old PS5. Soooo…
Re: Gears Of War: Reloaded Is Getting The Free Upgrade Treatment On Xbox
Might want to edit that headline to add “for digital owners” then.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox At Microsoft's 2025 Prices?
No way in hell.
Re: GTA 6 Gets A New Release Date As Rockstar Delays To May 2026
@Godot25 I don’t doubt that there’ll be a “Hook*rs and Blow” $200 edition of GTA6, so I figured $120 was lowballing it while still being slightly absurd.
Re: GTA 6 Gets A New Release Date As Rockstar Delays To May 2026
“Also, we’re raising the price to $120. You’ll pay it, so don’t even bother complaining!”
Re: Here's How The New Xbox Prices Compare To PS5 & Nintendo Switch 2
PS5 $499.
Series X $599.
Both with blu-ray drives.
…MS had better pray Sony raises their hardware prices in the next few months. That is a monstrously huge disparity in price for essentially the same capability hardware.
One’s blood had better have XBox Green flowing in it to go for an X over a 5 in this current situation. Of course, for all I know, Sony will jump them to match tomorrow…
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Games And Accessories
@Medic_alert Honestly, that’s one reason I’m keeping it. My $499 Switch 2 might go up to $600 next year or even after release, who knows?
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Games And Accessories
Well, guess I’m glad I got my X last year. My first and last XBox!
Still on the fence about keeping my Switch 2 preorder. This might just be my last console generation if things continue this way. Which is honestly fine, my backlog is so massive across all platforms that I could stop buying games today and be good till I’m in my seventies!
Re: Two Xbox Games Are Shutting Down Their Servers In May 2025
Saw the Joker and was like “Yay, Suicide Squad!” Then I saw the free to play and was like “awww.”
@Tasuki yaaaaaayyyyy….
Re: Gearbox Announces New, Earlier Release Date For Borderlands 4 On Xbox
No Jack Black as Claptrap DLC, no buy.
Ah, who am I kidding. I’m not buying this.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@Neither_scene The disc didn’t just contain the license on PS4. It had the whole game. Single player, at least. I don’t touch GTA online. So specious argument there.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@Neither_scene All of that is why I still buy my movies and tv shows on disc, and I avoid disc based games that don’t have the whole game (minus patches, obviously) on the actual disc. Exceptions for games like FF14 and Helldivers 2 that require being online with content patches and such are obviously made!
My concept of ownership hasn’t changed over the years: If I have the disc, I own it regardless of what the publisher wants to say. Heck, I still buy the occasional music CD!
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@Neither_scene That is a depressing way to say “we like renting and not owning games.”
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
@cburg points to gamepass
Prove me wrong. I’m willing to wager more XBox owners played this game via gamepass than bought it on XBox. Heck, I’m one of them!
@fiendish-beaver Well said. As a newer XBox owner (first one was a Series X last year) it’s actually a little sad that this will also likely be my last XBox. And I picked up a fair number of games for this system, actually paid real money and everything! Definitely not a Gamepass machine for me except for small bursts.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
PS owners buy games. Xbox owners (mostly, mind you) rent them these days.
Sad but unsurprising.
Re: Digital-Only Xbox Series X|S Consoles Have Accounted For 75% Of Sales So Far In 2025
Sad to see this. Makes me wonder what the comparable numbers are for PS5 consoles. I’m betting the ratio of disc to digital only leans heavier towards disc, with MS’s huge gamepass push.
Re: Oblivion Remastered Has A Very Cheap 'Deluxe Edition Upgrade' On Xbox
“Very cheap” for a few bits of in-game armor and an eArtbook.
We have different definitions of “very cheap!”
Re: Opinion: South Of Midnight Dev Could Become An Xbox Game Studios Gem
@Kezelpaso Thanks for that! You wacky folks across the pond have such colorful (deliberately spells that American-style) turns of phrase.
Re: Opinion: South Of Midnight Dev Could Become An Xbox Game Studios Gem
“in donkey’s years”
As an American, I have never heard this phrase in my life. Is this a European thing, or have I simply been sheltered from this phrase my entire life?
Re: Multiple 'Just For You' Deals Quietly Added To Xbox Spring Sale
@CallMeDuraSouka That game is up there with Balan Wonderworld and the PS1 Fantastic Four game in terms of pure OHGODWHYYYYYYness!
Re: Multiple 'Just For You' Deals Quietly Added To Xbox Spring Sale
@Kaloudz Hey, they might sucker in at least one ignorant LOTR fan who hasn’t heard about its near-radioactive status, might be worth the risk!
Re: Multiple 'Just For You' Deals Quietly Added To Xbox Spring Sale
@Kaloudz I got that same deal in dollars!
They’d have to pay me at least that amount to have that steaming pile in my game library.
Re: Multiple 'Just For You' Deals Quietly Added To Xbox Spring Sale
For Americans interested in SW Outlaws, Amazon is trying to get rid of their “Amazon Exclusive” disc version at $34.99 plus a 30% coupon. For $24.49 pre-tax, I’m willing to give this Ubisoft product a shot. Especially since they’re likely not making much off this purchase.
Re: Xbox Spring Sale 2025 Now Live In Full, 1000+ Games Discounted
@Millionski I have zero issue with Nintendo not discounting their games much. People still buy em, why should they? Obviously their sales are good enough that they don’t have to pull a Ubisoft and slash the price by 75% three months after release.
Now the launch price for Mario Kart World, THAT I have issues with…
Re: Metro 2033 Redux Team Vows To Fix Issues With Free Xbox Giveaway
I genuinely don’t understand how this was even an issue, unless MS’s online store was just being mulish. You’d think “set price to free” would be the simplest thing in the world.
That said, well done to the devs for making sure this will happen properly in the hopefully near future.
Re: Xbox Spring Sale 2025 Now Live In Full, 1000+ Games Discounted
@UndyingInsurgent95 You expect Larian Studios to just 50-75% discount a game that STILL sells, STILL gets played and yesterday just got a cross-play update people have been anticipating for over a year?
Nah, this is still a reasonable price for a game like BG3.