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@Dalamar73 PCs can be upgraded. Consoles cannot. They are static. Can’t pop in a new graphics card or cpu and say “yup, I’m ready for version 2.52 of Popular MMO now!”

That’s the part you’re missing. Imagine if they kept FF14 running on the PS3 and held the whole thing back just to placate those owners.What a horror show that would be. They discontinued it for that platform in 2017 for not being able to handle things, and now in 2025 it would be an utter joke.

You don’t hold the entire class back because one or two students can’t keep up.

@Runex2121 Perfectly stated.

@Kaloudz @Dalamar73 Heck, let’s pour one out for all those PS3 owners who got left behind when the Stormblood expansion came out for FF14 back in 2017 and were forced at gunpoint to go to PS4!

Tech moves on. Games move on. If someone is THAT heavily invested in BDO (and if they are, I have to question their choices in life anyway…) I’m sure they’ll either upgrade eventually when money allows or move on with their life and seek greener pastures!

FH4 and 5 are the entire reason I ended up keeping the Series X I bought a year ago as my first Xbox.

I absolutely fire it up every so often, just to enjoy the pretty graphics and the VROOM VROOM!

I look forward to WoW running on XBox with the overbearing chat censorship that FF14 experienced on this platform…

@OldGamer999 Not too surprising, the PS5’s compression tech is likely responsible. Games are just bigger on Series S/X due to that.

@HonestHick The PC market is larger than the Xbox market, and WAY larger than the folks who only play gamepass games on XBox.

I’m sure they’ve done the cost/benefit analysis at a much more detailed level than us rando commenters could ever do, and the fact that they AREN’T porting games to XBox is all we need to know.

Also, PC users certainly do buy games. Steam wouldn’t be successful as a storefront if they didn’t.

@BacklogBrad XBox owners are, for better or worse, Gamepass people. Gamepass people rarely outright buy games these days.

Sony doesn’t crow about “engagement” numbers like EA and Ubisoft do. They go by actual sales, with some exceptions for PS Plus of course.

Sony has no real monetary incentive to port and sell games on a platform they’d sell fewer games on.

@BacklogBrad Agree to disagree! Sony clearly feels no need to test the waters beyond LEGO Horizon on Switch, and even on that they excluded the XBox completely. And you’ll notice that neither the Spider-Man series or the forthcoming Wolverine games are for any console but the PS!

You’re 100% right about MLB forcing the multiplatform release for sure. But whatever the reason, it technically IS a Sony game on XBox.

Time will tell, but MS is clearly not banking completely on their own gaming consoles anymore.

@BacklogBrad Technically they’ve released a couple. MLB The Show, anyone?

@Onlyboxmatters I…genuinely can’t tell if you’re serious or not!

MS needs multi platform since “every device is an XBox.”

Sony does not need multi platform since Helldivers 2 exists for PS and PC, and Sony is pretty good with keeping only PlayStation consoles as PlayStations.

Helldivers won’t come to XBox. Sorry, folks. MS has pretty much guaranteed that games will flow from XBox to PS, not from PS to XBox.

I’m not saying this as a Sony fanboy (though I do favor PS over XBox) but as a realist. And also as one who does fight for Super Earth on occasion and would absolutely welcome our green brethren in the fight against the democracyless legions of the galaxy!

Xenoblade Chronicles X currently, then Atelier Yumia eventually.

I like my Japanese games MADE by Japanese people, with Ghost of Tsushima being the sole exception to that rule.

@RentedPanda I’m just making it clear that “players” doesn’t equal “impactful income” and Ubisoft is essentially giving us a rather meaningless statistic.

We’ll see what they say a month from now. Or three to six months from now when it drops to $30.

That’s players.

It doesn’t differentiate between someone who bought and kept it, bought it on Steam then tried it and refunded it, or Ubisoft plus players who paid whatever monthly fee it is to play it.

This is like EA celebrating “engagement” with Veilguard. It means exactly nothing.

In a world where MS currently considers the underpowered series S a required supported device, there is currently zero reason for them to release a new console by 2027.

@Millionski My X is a decent console, and I’ve definitely gotten some use out of it. But now that I’ve dipped my toes into the green side, I’m content with hanging out in the blue and red areas of the pool for future hardware.

At least Sony and Nintendo consistently use industry standard storage in the form of M.2 SSDs and microSD respectively. Having to get an expansion card for my X is annoying, even with a 2 TB external hard drive for my XBone/360 games.

@donv2135 …because I own an XBox? Or are people who own multiple consoles not welcome here, regardless of which one they prefer?

I never said I didn’t enjoy the one I have. But definitely going to be a one and done for me, though I’ve picked up quite a few discs for it.

@donv2135 I…am not an XBox fan. I have a PS5 as my main console, along with my Switch. The Series X was bought to play some BC games and some previous exclusives like Halo and such. I’m glad I did, don’t get me wrong, but there’s just not much incentive to stick with the platform.

I guarantee this is my last XBox, especially with Forza Horizon coming to PS. Horizon 4 and 5 are what let me to keep the series X in the first place…

I’m glad I got a Series X as my first XBox.

It will also be my last XBox. MS has given me zero faith in their seriousness about consoles, and I’ll be content giving my money to Sony for the PS6 down the road (assuming they aren’t dumb enough to nix the optical drive in it) and the Switch 2 sooner.

As long as reviewers don’t use the phrase “a return to form for Ubisoft,” then maybe things will be okay.

@themightyant glances at Veilguard after EA touted “engagements” instead of “sales”, then glances at all the writers and such from said game having been almost instantly laid off

Translation: “please subscribe so we can boast of engagement numbers instead of sales numbers like they did for Veilguard if/when this sells like…well, Veilguard!”

@LogicStrikesAgain You forgot the XBox U!

Trust me, my Xbox friends, you don’t want this game. You really don’t.

I got the disc for $5 a few months ago and…I just can’t make myself even put it in my console.

That is definitely a fugly console, but I have to admit that I’d enjoy having it in my tv stand!

Yeah, got the message from MS last night.

Oh, well. I already owned it quite genuinely on disc for PS5 and digitally due to the code my physical PS5 copy of AW2 came with. I’ll survive having the Xbox digital copy vanish into the ether.

Kinda reminds me of the few times this sort of thing happened on Sony’s side. I still have access to the glitched-free games they had, like a couple of digital PSP games as well as the God of War 1&2 PS3 remasters.

Sony never revoked access to those. Guess MS is more of a stickler, or Remedy kicked up that much of a fuss since they just barely made a profit on AW2 and need the cash from actual sales!

The best thing that could happen for the AC IP is for another company to take the reigns and divorce it from ALL of the current management.

Shadows is (whether you agree with the reasons or not) so tainted in many folks’ eyes that even if it breaks even (which it may not, given delays and Ubisoft continually Ubisofting) it won’t do much for the compaly’s bottom line at this point.

@JetmanUK True, I guess they want to focus on polishing the PS5 version without having to make allowances for PS4 and PS4 Pro, perhaps.

Might make it easier when Horizon 6 comes, since I’d wager that’ll drop support for last-gen.

@JetmanUK Forza Horizon 5 is PS5 only.

I bought my first Xbox last year, a series X.

I have zero plans to buy another XBox after this. Partially because I’m a PS/Nintendo gamer first and foremost, partially because I got the Series X to play some previous exclusives for the first time ever…and now that MS has apparently given up on those, I have zero reason to buy MS hardware again.

I also REALLY dislike Smart Delivery. Like, really dislike it.

@JON22 You mean the console that requires you to download a platform-specific version of the game to play it, even if you wanted to play the XBone version contained on the disc? That console that, if those servers ever go away, will suddenly have far fewer games playable on it since the smart delivery copy will be inaccessible?

Okay.

It’s good to see Control getting some more love retroactively.

@Kaloudz Again, YOU see no connection. Neither did Ubisoft.

Japanese folks? Oh, a good number of them saw the connection, whether unintentional or not. I’m 100% sure it was unintentional, but dang Ubisoft seems to keep doing it.

But what you or I think is utterly meaningless. We (at least, I, can’t speak for you) aren’t Japanese and we aren’t qualified to speak towards what Japanese people are allowed to find objectionable or acceptable, as it is a completely different culture.

It amuses me when people like us think we can dictate what other cultures should accept or decry. The fact is that the offense is there.

@Kaloudz I think it’s the whole “Japan is the only country that has been nuked and the partially destroyed Torii gate is currently a symbol related to that devastation” thing that is the point.

Literally no one is saying that there’s never been a partially destroyed one of these. But CURRENTLY it’s kind of a thing that has more meaning after…you know…

In a few months, Forza Horizon 5 needs to be removed from this list.

@themightyant Won’t know till the game comes out. I said “a number” which is obviously more than zero.

I wouldn’t underestimate the “noisy malcontents” though. Lately they have a history of being pretty spot-on as far as game success. glances at Veilguard

@Kaloudz And that’s the thing. You found it stupid. Other gamers found it hilarious, others found it insulting, including a number of Japanese gamers.

Funny thing about viewpoints. There’s more than one!

I’m betting it will sell, but it won’t be a major success. All the controversy and missteps Ubisoft made, plus pissed off Japanese fans…that’s not a great combo.

But there are die-hard AC fans out there who don’t care and just want another AC game, and that’s okay too.

It’ll be interesting if Ubisoft touts sales numbers or “engagement” numbers like EA did for Veilguard.

“fans are getting restless”

Wait, there are enough Starfield fans to be restless about this game?

Every time I hear about this guy and his opinions, I realize how lucky we are that he hasn’t touched the God of War series since GoW 2 back in the day.

Having never played any of the series except a tiny bit of the remastered original, I genuinely don’t care about multiplayer at all. I want to do the story when it finally comes time for me to clean these off my backlog.

Worth it. I got the regular game for cheaper last year, but this price is still worth it.

@xboxjapanfan Could always, you know, just buy them…

Thankfully all the Yakuza/Like a Dragon games got physical releases on PS4/5 (and Dead Souks on PS3!) and are on my shelf, even Man Who Erased His Name which I had to import. But by gum, they’re mine.

@themightyant I WANTED to pick it up for PS5, but the odd cutscene bug just made me avoid it. It’s too bad, PS5 is where I’d rather play it but the devs have said that bug will never be fixed.

A note on a couple of games here.

Veilguard is one of this month’s PS Plus Essential games, so if you have both Xbox and PS5…snag it there rather than paying even that sale price. If you really have to play it, which I wouldn’t advise, but still!

Second, that $19.79 price for Robocop ain’t great. I got it for cheaper than that on XBox a month or two ago, and it was also like $8.99 on PS5 last week. Hold off, be strong, it’ll drop more!

@Medic_alert I can’t blame them for it. I can DESPISE them for it, but can’t blame them.

Oh, well. Clearly MS doesn’t want more of my money, and I’m happy to go along with their wishes!

@Medic_alert Which is guaranteed to make my first Xbox (series X) my last Xbox.

@Ricky-Spanish It was $4.99 last year. $9.99 is too much.

@dreadful And yet Rocksteady (the studio that made said SS game) escaped unscathed.

Kinda makes you wonder what kind of traumatic brain injury the people in charge at WB have, doesn’t it?

@Cakefish I mean, it COULD happen, but I’m absolutely assuming 2026 unless it ends up being a Switch 2 launch title somehow!

Now it’s a race between this game and Metroid Prime 4 as to which will release first.