Schonks

I agree it's a non story.

Great addition to Horizon + Subscription.

Some big new games there.

The alternative would be something like PS Premium!! No Thank You it's just not worth the money, they give mostly just old tired games you would have bought long ago if you thought they were worth playing and nothing else worth talking about, to top it off if you stop subscribing it's goodbye cloud saves as well!! They charge for Cloud saves!!!.

The Free stuff you get on PC is better than Sony's subscriptions, if it ever ended up in a situation like that I would go completely over to PC.

@Fiendish-Beaver M
The vast majority will play Gears on the multi player, not just for a month or two but for months and years, they have also expanded on the multiplayer.

"why should people buy it when it is available on Game Pass?"

I wasn't aware that Gamepass is Free ?

Xbox recently revealed that some departments required work to pass through up to 14 or 15 layers of management!

Clearly a lot of them will be gone, I think she said they are taking it down to 5 and some cases 3.

Excellent, can't wait.

@johnedwin Astrobot a game that lasts about 10 hours then it's throw away, not worth more than an 80 score.

Good news and there's some big Day One games coming up.
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One thing I think they should do, make you play for cloud saves just as Sony do, No subscription No cloud saves.

@Ninerguy1608 Sony have only been releasing One AAA PS5 First Party exclusive game a year for years now, this year finally has two, so I'm not sure where your huge games list is going to come from.
They have lost years in studio development time because of Concord and all the other cancelled games that were in development.

Great if the price is right.

@themightyant "With Game Pass Xbox has already moved most users away from physical games"

Intresting, so with Sony only realising one AAA First Party current gen exclusive a year for years now (though they are managing 2 this year) , I think it's safe to also say With PS Premium PlayStation has already moved most users away from physical games.

It's clearly one or the other, either it's subscriptions that have moved people away from both consoles or the younger generation just don't care about boxed games in the digital age.

@Balaam_ The big difference is Sony lock you into their Digital Store for Everything, Microsoft allow buying from third party much cheaper.

Probably worth remembering Sony's closures and layoffs, how many GAAS games were cancelled after the Concord game disaster?
292 jobs from Bungie.

Microsoft should do what Sony do and say nothing until they have to.

@chatbot sounds to me like they are doing it so that if you play them on Xbox you will also be able to continue to play them on PC/Handheld.

@BaldB3lper78 A breaking "Rumour" 😅 that's a new one.

If it were true then they could well be 3rd party games from the rumored ID@Xbox cuts.

Rumours on Rumours

So we have had.

"Microsoft are not denying it it must be true"
And
"The fact that Microsoft are even saying anything feels like deflection"

Very good selection and still more to come for July.

Play Anywhere is a great feature, buy one get the other one FREE you can't lose.

@Lightbubulz Sony won't do that, they put their backwards compatibility in their top tier subscription, they also prefer you to buy their updated version of a game/remaster etc than to play all those old games you bought years ago for free.

@fatpunkslim Could Sony's recent PS Plus increase be part of their latest price rise? " Sony's CFO," we intend to minimize the impact of the increased memory costs on this segment going forward by prioritizing monetization of the installed base to date. "

Feb, 2026.
"Given present-day circumstances, even the largest players are very likely paying more for in demand components (memory and storage). During the recent call, Tao(CFO) outlined a plan for offsetting some of these elevated costs: "given the stage of our console cycle, our hardware sales strategy can be adjusted flexibly, and we intend to minimize the impact of the increased memory costs on this segment going forward by prioritizing monetization of the installed base to date and striving to further expand our software and network services revenue."

@Fishmasterflex96
On the official PS Store The current retail price for the standard PS5 (Slim) 1TB Disc Console in the UK is £569.99

On the official Microsoft Store, a new 1 TB Xbox Series X costs £499.99 Retail for the standard edition with a disc drive.

Looking at Amazon the current price Amazon themselves sell the Series X disc version is '£479'.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbox-RRT-00007-Series-X/dp/B08H93GKNJ/ref=sr_1_4?crid=KH9SAM1X0KU8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.OOye5hYNe-txa6_LFS4eqbKUz2H9FCnHl4uw2PB5Iwi1Qt0uQ_rZr-eDdUPOsSqlCKVxJ1UvusVCAmrHQr1IcyFvR12duJRgmcAN2JKLBrf4BM5vWXPAp9AZRr9Jts566YrwVw3Szveu_d-pZ92syzjx0wm8XUCWNGN5DK3ttF6n-SKJzbMewSB3NNjL19I1Q4QfCQEEuHlwpLmYtpWypcnsA1sxVWSblJoXI_2XMuQ.hKoFq2nVTVTRwqrmZbZMREFaLaAuh_X_gJ2bhEV-0hA&dib_tag=se&keywords=Xbox%2Bseries%2Bx&qid=1782416280&sprefix=xbox%2Bseries%2Bx%2B%2Caps%2C202&sr=8-4&th=1

Looking at Amazon the current price Amazon themselves sell the PS5 disc version is £569

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PlayStation-J55WWS00-5-Console/dp/B0FNCYKKQQ/ref=sr_1_2?crid=KZ2GWPBD57YE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.J6B_Nzlpl84CNiSFhTFsyiaQa2GHWf7sfQBICjsjTZ5sVzsRDN46iMeGlZi5Tbn92-HVLJNQmCVy0bPBq5NwDQYklIqWQo1jOEhqyyxbfTlmCv5jRDAGkJB5dZPXr8YSyL8QigT8UjHOD9HOXAGy9XsvyXR7gpmfFed2PqwPy0G4yqQgF0w0EdgpfBrzLu1ZrJUeBa0TbcNKL42EShxXjttWgeazrbeofk-tIDA4Qos.uNFKKCmLbV3qYtnyGqJkCCqjisQyRaMFCT_vFO_G8Tw&dib_tag=se&keywords=Ps5&qid=1782419626&sprefix=ps5%2Caps%2C172&sr=8-2&th=1

@Fishmasterflex96 Are you pretending not to know that Sonys last console price increase put it far more expensive than Xbox currently is ?

@BaldB3lper78 looks like you missed Sony out of that for some reason ? The disc version for the PS5 is also a download code.

Beast of Reincarnation August 4th and Resonance: A Plague Tale Legacy August 27th, Gamepass just keeps getting better.

@RareXbK "Asha, she has background in AI and just recently hired some more of her ai bros"
Really! That's a coincidence.
Sony dropped PC from its Sec filings, with the PC strategy removed Sony has introduced a brand-new section outlining its extensive AI aspirations:Game Development: Sony is using AI-powered tools (like its internal "Mockingbird" tool) to automate tedious, technical groundwork—such as turning performance capture data into facial animations in a fraction of a second.Store & Backend: Sony is leaning on AI to personalize game recommendations on the PlayStation Store and route transactions more efficiently.Visual Fidelity: The company is investing in machine learning and AI to boost visual fidelity and enhance the overarching PlayStation experience.

Not sure why some people think Sony gaming is not completely involved in AI.

@Balaam_ Only if your a PlayStation owner and stuck with their lousy so called Premium subscription, you get better stuff Free on PC than Sony's subscriptions.
But don't cancel that PS subscription or Sony will lock you out of your cloud saves on and off line.

Just get the Halo Master Chief Collection, it's under £10 from key stores and it has online multiplayer.
Includes, Halo: Combat Evolved (Anniversary), Halo 2 (Anniversary), Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, Halo: Reach, and Halo 4.
Only ODST dosen't have multiplayer it never did.

Perfect handheld.

@Millionski "3-4 big exclusives per year is enough - they can copy sony model. The rest could be multiplat"

The 'Sony model' has been 1 big exclusive AAA First Party current gen game for about 5 years now.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Xbox 3rd party discount is at All times including many new titles plus you also get the PC version included on a lot of them.
I just looked at the price of Sekiro Shadows Die Twice on the PS Store it's £60! The exact same edition on Xbox is £7.25, Pragmata etc the price difference is much lower.

I'm fairly sure everyone knew Microsoft giving a year of Ultimate for about the price of an indie game would one day come to an end.
Was there a huge drop when Sony blocked Turkey etc from PS Plus prices?

I see Ultimate Gamepass 3rd party for £140 a year, that's only £20 more than PS Premium!, I think I know which one is still 10 times better value.
Gamepass Ultimate.. Just some of the games I know coming this year.
Forza Horizon 6, Halo, Beast of Reincarnation, Gears of war E Day, Resonance: A Plague Tale Legacy, Dune: Awakening Amartus etc. PC versions also included.

For £20 less.
PS Premium.
some oldie games.

@S1ayeR74 like Sony did with all those GAAS games.?

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Do you have an Xbox console ? How do you not know that you can buy Full Digital games And subscriptions much cheaper from 3rd party on Xbox exactly as you can on PC?

Did you confuse it with being locked to Sony's Digital store ?

@ozkrmz Why would Microsoft need to hear it, this is not their studio or game did you get fooled by the title and not read the story ?
I blame Sony for this for whatever the reason you think it was Microsoft fault.

The ones who come here to Boo Hoo over Xbox exclusives not going to Sony's AAA starved game console should look closer to home, I expect the new Xbox team looked very carefully at what the Sony fanboys were up to lately and I'm sure their Number 1 comment of concern was the. "What's the point in buying an Xbox if all the games are PlayStation"
Well that problem is now fixed so well done to the new Xbox team.

@BoredOfEverything So if they didn't engage on Gamepass they obviously didn't rate the game highly,difference is it will have far more people who play it over time it dosen't have to be played day one and it won't leave Gamepass, in fact it won't be long before The Outer Worlds 2 goes to Gamepass Premium so a whole new audience.

Each year since 2020, Sony has sold millions of 'Fewer' copies of the games it has developed and/or published for its PlayStation consoles with a small uptick with release of Yotei.
Why not blame that on PS Premium giving people other options rather than paying full price just for one game.

@BoredOfEverything People are paying for
the games by paying for Ultimate Gamepass that is how subscriptions work, this applies far more now they recently stopped the unbelievably generous conversion rates they allowed for years practically giving you a year's Ultimate Gamepass for the price of an indie game.

"Obviously this is all just reported information based on a few sources, so take it with a pinch of salt."

So it's pointless really.

@DennisReynolds Not surprising when the PS5 has Nothing like it.

@Balaam_ have you actually got an Xbox.?

@Millionski Sony have been doing exactly the same. In fact I wouldn't mind betting in the next few months they will have announcements, Saros flopped, Marathon is a flop, the God of War Sons of Sparta: was a terrible flop, and Sony recently announcing first-party game sales peaked during the 2020 pandemic and went down ever since with only Yotei picking up.

@Fiendish-Beaver Or just do what Sony do, say nothing about anything.

@Neither_scene Exactly as it does on any other subscription service.

@Jenkinss With Sonys collapse in PS5 sales due to the huge price increase why wouldn't all those customers they lost be buying up the better priced Series S/X consoles?

@RiverGenie It leaves Sony fanboys saying "what is the point of Xbox if you can get the games on PlayStation".well that one has now gone out of the window which needed to happen when they have a new Xbox on the way.

Ask Sony owners what exclusivity offers the PS5, as they were very happy when just 'Old' PS5 exclusives were no longer even going to PC.

Sony has hardly First Party AAA exclusive games especially new IPs for next year(and beyond) and Helix is getting closer.
It's going to take Sony years to recover (Development wise) from their Concord etc disaster, Sony cancelled multiple in-development live-service titles across major PlayStation developers.

Getting ready for Helix, obviously want a line up exclusives ready for that as well as day one exclusives.

Changing their mind about PS5 getting a lot of Xbox exclusives, just like Sony did with PC, can't see a problem with that.

@johnedwin So what, people pay Microsoft for Ultimate Gamepass and Microsoft uses the money to pay Atlus.

Gamepass the best deal in gaming.

@anoyonmus You know that is One more First Party AAA current gen exclusive game than Sony have been releasing most years on PS5 for years now.

Will the others be on PS Premium like Ultimate Gamepass or will you have to pay for each one as well as the subscription ?