In theory, more competition would be great, but they're going to run into the exact same situations with component prices, logistics, R&D, etc. Assuming they can grab a meaningful chunk of the market to begin with...
Low-end prebuilts start at $1200-1300 these days. With enough cutbacks and/or proprietary parts they might be able to shave it down to the $800s or $900s.
@Fiendish-Beaver Why should they be in line with any other reviewers? Reviews are just opinions. Metacritic is just an aggregator of opinions; I fail to see how it’s so critically important that a professional site would want to try to manipulate the review score.
If the PS is purposefully rating these games lower and PX is purposefully rating them higher, then it cancels out.
@Fiendish-Beaver They seem to rate most things lower than aggregates. But they’re allowed to. Should they be consulting Metacritic/Opencritic and adjusting their scores to better fit with those sites before posting?
@PsBoxSwitchOwner I’ve read the PS5 version suffers from more performance issues. Probably because this was originally supposed to be exclusive and the PS5 port was announced years later
@Questionable_Duck Probably easier to justify considering how large and profitable the PS5 install-base is. Less so with Xbox, unfortunately, and that’s what I think people are upset about.
ASUS’ mobile/laptop parts are notoriously unreliable. A buddy of mine runs a repair shop and gets ASUS laptops and ROG Allies in almost daily. I’m not in the market because I don’t like handhelds and hate PC/Windows, but if I were I’d wait several months to make sure that mosfets and/or VRMs aren’t randomly blowing. Not to mention the melting SD card issue from the original Ally…
Rumors aren’t just an “other side” issue. That perspective is ironically maladaptive considering that person was posting about mental health. Decrying every issue or bad situation as fake news isn’t healthy either, and there’s plenty of that on this site as well.
The best thing to do is tune out the doomer Ponies, paranoid Xbots, and OCD Nintendrones and just play games.
Even the Reddit posts said they were from “alleged staff,” which made me chuckle. Crazy how these things can blow up, but also kind of damning how they can seem plausible.
The “base” controller feels like crap with that awful textured plastic and grindy analog sticks. Elite is almost perfect except for the fragile bumpers and rubber grips that really irritate my palms. The sticks at maximum tension feel great and the domed cap is perfect for aiming!
That was the most corporate non-answer possible. But anyway, if they could make the bumpers more durable and only have rubber on the underside of the controller handles so my hands don’t sweat and burn, that would be appreciated!
@johndoe89 I’ve had a fraction of the issues with PS5 compared to Xbox. Download speeds are consistent on every other console, so it’s on Microsoft’s server side.
Noticed this yesterday setting up my latest Series X. The games all started up fine, when they weren't missing that is. Download speeds have been awful for the longest time, though.
Semi-related, but Costco announced that they will no longer be selling Xbox consoles. I was curious to see if that included these new handhelds, as well.
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Re: 1997 PC Game 'Blood' Has Been Remastered By Nightdive Studios, And It Hits Xbox This Week
Is there such a thing as too many boomer shooters?
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No, absolutely not!
Re: Microsoft Rewards Is Allowing You To 'Double Your Points' Until Early December
I thought this might be a good excuse to get all existential, but apparently that counts as suspicious? 😅
Re: Xbox Series X|S Could Go Up In Price Again Due To Potential RAM Shortages, It's Claimed
In theory, more competition would be great, but they're going to run into the exact same situations with component prices, logistics, R&D, etc. Assuming they can grab a meaningful chunk of the market to begin with...
Re: Xbox Developers Are Reportedly 'Thrilled' To Release Their Games On PS5
Reminds me of the “It’s good to be home” video Ninja Theory put out when Hellblade 2 was announced for PS5
Re: Rumour: Steam Machine To Be 'Priced Like A PC' Rather Than Traditional Xbox Or PS Console
@Fiendish-Beaver Does GOG work on SteamOS? I thought I read that people had to sideload things on the Deck and it was still glitchy
Re: Rumour: Steam Machine To Be 'Priced Like A PC' Rather Than Traditional Xbox Or PS Console
Low-end prebuilts start at $1200-1300 these days. With enough cutbacks and/or proprietary parts they might be able to shave it down to the $800s or $900s.
Re: Xbox 1TB Expansion Card Drops To Below $100 In Pre-Black Friday Deal
@themightyant That’s a good point. Proprietary memory doesn’t quite go with the PC style NextBox might have. Maybe they’ll sell adapters!
Re: The Crew Motorfest Races Onto Xbox Game Pass This Week, And You Don't Want To Miss It
The Crew Motorfest does seem to be significantly less cringe than Forza Horizon 5
Re: Random: A GTA Clone About Farting Frogs Has Reached The 'Top Paid' Charts On Xbox
4K 120 with HDR? Looking for something that can push my Series X
Re: Xbox 360 Classic 'Condemned' Has Quietly Been Delisted, And Nobody Knows Why
I noticed this hasn’t been on sale in forever. I got it a few years back and it was the first Xbox game I ever beat
Re: Ninja Gaiden 4 Performance Is Impressive But Xbox Series S Visuals Suffer, Says Digital Foundry
This would be fine if Series S were still $299.99, but not now that it costs as much as a PS5
Re: Xbox Has More Competition From TikTok Than PlayStation, Claims Microsoft Exec
So what Xbox really needs is a vertical video/social media platform to compete with their actual biggest competitor?
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Halo: Campaign Evolved Launching Day One On PS5?
@Weebleman I think we're up to 3. Almost need a spreadsheet to keep track!
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved Officially Announced, Coming To Xbox In 2026
@TheGameThrifter All the 6th and 7th gen games it has that are stabilized and enhanced? Plus FPS Boost.
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved Officially Announced, Coming To Xbox In 2026
@OldGamer999 I thought you sold your Series X again. It's getting to keep track of what systems you have!
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Verdict On The Outer Worlds 2, With Xbox The Clear Console Winner
But the lower reviews on PS5 are just biased
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@Fiendish-Beaver Why should they be in line with any other reviewers? Reviews are just opinions. Metacritic is just an aggregator of opinions; I fail to see how it’s so critically important that a professional site would want to try to manipulate the review score.
If the PS is purposefully rating these games lower and PX is purposefully rating them higher, then it cancels out.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@Fiendish-Beaver Wouldn’t significant performance issues on the PS5 version warrant a lower score in this case?
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@Fiendish-Beaver But a 7 is "Good" on Push Square's scale. Why should they care about Metacritic's scale?
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@Fiendish-Beaver They seem to rate most things lower than aggregates. But they’re allowed to. Should they be consulting Metacritic/Opencritic and adjusting their scores to better fit with those sites before posting?
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@PsBoxSwitchOwner I’ve read the PS5 version suffers from more performance issues. Probably because this was originally supposed to be exclusive and the PS5 port was announced years later
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
VGC rated this the lowest yet no one has complained about them 🤣
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
@Llamageddon No time for games when there are corporations to defend and aggregated review scores to protect
Re: Microsoft's 'This Is An Xbox' Ad Evolves As Holiday Marketing Ramps Up
@BacklogBrad Boxes are technically three-dimensional
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
7 doesn’t mean bad. 😉 People need to stop being so paranoid about review scores and think for themselves.
Re: Sarah Bond: Our Next-Gen Console Will Be 'Very Premium' & Informed By ROG Xbox Ally
@Banjo- No thanks!
Re: Sarah Bond: Our Next-Gen Console Will Be 'Very Premium' & Informed By ROG Xbox Ally
So basically an Xbox-branded prebuilt. No thanks! Zero desire to deal with any PC quirks whatsoever.
Re: Digital Foundry Analyses ROG Xbox Ally X In New Review-In-Progress
I’m glad it comes with Teams and Office pre-installed so I can do my work on the go…?
Re: Microsoft Is Reportedly Increasing The Cost Of Xbox Dev Kits In Latest Price Hike
@Questionable_Duck Probably easier to justify considering how large and profitable the PS5 install-base is. Less so with Xbox, unfortunately, and that’s what I think people are upset about.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Won't Announce Starfield For PS5 Until 2026, It's Claimed
Can’t wait for this generation-defining experience!
Re: Microsoft Passes The Buck To Asus For ROG Xbox Ally's Price Tag
@HeavyHoggJP I agree, but my scrolling finger is starting to hurt
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Should Use And Improve This New PlayStation Store Feature
@Gabrie I haven’t seen any keys that are significantly cheaper than the lowest console store price.
Re: Poll: Are You More Interested In The ROG Xbox Ally Now That Reviews Are Out?
ASUS’ mobile/laptop parts are notoriously unreliable. A buddy of mine runs a repair shop and gets ASUS laptops and ROG Allies in almost daily. I’m not in the market because I don’t like handhelds and hate PC/Windows, but if I were I’d wait several months to make sure that mosfets and/or VRMs aren’t randomly blowing. Not to mention the melting SD card issue from the original Ally…
Re: Xbox Indie Showcase Announced For October 2025
Ereban: Shadow Legacy?
Re: Review: ROG Xbox Ally X - An Amazing Handheld PC With Plenty Of Console-Like Potential
Did ASUS ever fix the hardware issues that kept melting SD cards on the previous Ally?
Re: Xbox Journalist Says Latest Rumours Are 'A Huge Challenge For The Brand Right Now'
Rumors aren’t just an “other side” issue. That perspective is ironically maladaptive considering that person was posting about mental health. Decrying every issue or bad situation as fake news isn’t healthy either, and there’s plenty of that on this site as well.
The best thing to do is tune out the doomer Ponies, paranoid Xbots, and OCD Nintendrones and just play games.
Re: Talking Point: How Often Do You Replay Games?
@Kieduss Absolutely! Backlogs aren't real.
Re: Talking Point: How Often Do You Replay Games?
I like beating games on multiple platforms, like F.E.A.R. 1 & 2 on Series X and PS3, Inside and Limbo on Switch and PS4, and Control on PS4 and PS5
Re: Insomniac's Xbox Exclusive Sunset Overdrive Celebrates Its 11-Year Anniversary This Month
Perfect candidate for an expanded multiplatform rerelease!
Re: Everwild Screenshots Leak Online Several Months After Xbox Cancellation
I remember being excited about this after I got my first ever Xbox (the Series X). I thought it was going to be like Journey or Abzû
Re: Microsoft Issues Statement Denying Target & Walmart Are Pulling Xbox Products
Even the Reddit posts said they were from “alleged staff,” which made me chuckle. Crazy how these things can blow up, but also kind of damning how they can seem plausible.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Elite Series 3 Controller For Xbox Series X|S?
The “base” controller feels like crap with that awful textured plastic and grindy analog sticks. Elite is almost perfect except for the fragile bumpers and rubber grips that really irritate my palms. The sticks at maximum tension feel great and the domed cap is perfect for aiming!
Re: Xbox Exec Questioned About Elite Series 3 Controller, Offers Slight Tease For The Future
That was the most corporate non-answer possible. But anyway, if they could make the bumpers more durable and only have rubber on the underside of the controller handles so my hands don’t sweat and burn, that would be appreciated!
Re: Rumour: Microsoft & ASUS Wanted To 'Further Subsidise' The Price Of The ROG Xbox Ally
@PsBoxSwitchOwner IIRC, the entire handheld PC market is 4 million or so, so a couple of million Xbox Allies would be massive
Re: Xbox Bug Sees Games Disappearing And Showing Triangles With Exclamation Marks
@johndoe89 I’ve had a fraction of the issues with PS5 compared to Xbox. Download speeds are consistent on every other console, so it’s on Microsoft’s server side.
Re: Xbox Bug Sees Games Disappearing And Showing Triangles With Exclamation Marks
Noticed this yesterday setting up my latest Series X. The games all started up fine, when they weren't missing that is. Download speeds have been awful for the longest time, though.
Re: Where To Buy The ROG Xbox Ally & ROG Xbox Ally X Handhelds
@FraserG Ah, thanks for clarifying! I just saw a random Reddit post.
Re: Where To Buy The ROG Xbox Ally & ROG Xbox Ally X Handhelds
Semi-related, but Costco announced that they will no longer be selling Xbox consoles. I was curious to see if that included these new handhelds, as well.
Re: Aniimo's Latest Xbox Trailer Has An Everwild-Meets-Pokémon Vibe
What even is an Everwild vibe?
Re: Asia Is Now The Fastest Growing Region For Xbox, Says Sarah Bond
@Balaam_ We already had that in Hi-Fi Rush, didn’t change a thing.