Bethesda Says Starfield Looks 'Amazing' With Nvidia's DLSS 5, But Don't Expect It On Xbox

I seen the digital foundry video on this and it's amazing!!
It makes starfield the new resident evil and assassins creed Shadows look like high quality CGI from a movie on current gen games!
I know some people literally hate it due to AI but I think it looks amazing!!

"Amazing" sure is one word for it.

Looks like some awful AI generated stuff. It even needlessly lightens scenes that were intended to be dark.

I think the phrase 'you can't polish a turd' is quite applicable here.

At first I was like wow but then you look at it properly and it's nothing more than a Snapchat filter, giving devs no reason to do their job in the first place.

good. I don't want it on my Xbox.

Even if you’re opposed to the use of AI in games, you can’t honestly deny that DLSS 5 brings games to life. The difference is night and day, such a shame it won’t be used with Project Helix.

The uncanny valley is crazy on the character models. A yassify filter for games is not what I want. You can tell its AI from just a casual glance. No thank you, keep your slop out my games please

After all, this is just an AI model, and not a particularly impressive one at that. Perhaps the biggest challenge is implementing it with very low input lag.

If the next Xbox has enough GPU/NPU power, it could implement it, not this specific model, since Nvidia isn’t going to license it, but a similar one that could be trained by Microsoft or AMD.

This is clearly divisive. But if people actually want to take the time to read the story they’ll see that it’s optional. It’s also the first iteration of the tech, only available on Nvidia hardware and fully adjustable by devs that want to implement it. It can be selectively applied too, meaning that it doesn’t need to be used for character models and can just be applied to the environment.

If you have AMD hardware (all current and next gen consoles) you won’t even have this option. It’s also incredibly hardware and vram intensive (requiring 2 5090s for the purpose of these demos). Even if AMD develop a similar technology, it’s unlikely that the next consoles will make much use of it due to the significant processing costs. Regular lighting technology (baked and ray) for games will continue to be a thing for the very foreseeable future.

@Neither_scene

It’s also incredibly hardware and vram intensive (requiring 2 5090s for the purpose of these demos)

I just read about that. That's insane. 😂

Yay, AI?...

Just terrible, I can’t believe the praise I’ve been reading for this blatant AI Slop, this is Nvidia saying “f*ck artstyles, here’s some slop” and the worst of this is that it’s being endorsed by this companies like Bethesda which only will result in more poor looking games and worse performance since they’ll become reliant on that AI slop filter instead of proper optimization.

How have you fallen from grace Todd…

@IOI

Unfortunately the vast majority of the entertainment industry is destined to follow suit.

As history has shown us you'll always have your mindless consumer sheep ready to just go along with the program and, worse still, even those who will blindly defend [insert bad idea]. In this case, GenAI.

This is how they win out in the end.

Next up? Intrusive, privacy destroying digital ID.
'Oh, but it's optional!' the sheep will confidently state while blissfully unaware they're getting back-doored as more and more service are blocked unless they have that "optional" digital ID.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the masses and their willingness to sacrifice everything for the sake of "convenience".

This DLSS5 reveal is getting annihilated everywhere I look. Go read the comments in the DigitalFoundry video; what’s normally a butt kissing comment section praising DF and claiming they can do no wrong has completely flipped the script. Gamer’s Nexus has a delightful post about it too.

Not sure what Bethesda’s bragging about here. The base game is a technical and artistically devoid mess, so adding DLSS5 to it would be like applying an instagram ai slop filter to a dog poop laying on the sidewalk. Go interact with it afterward and tell me it’s ‘better’

"Totally optional for players" seems wrong to me. The developers making a game should have a vision for their game and that's what the players should play.

I'm wish I was baffled at how many seem to actually like how this garbage look, but am not given how many like photoshopped fan garbage that "prettifies" female characters some boys dim "ugly".

Anyways this stuff is horrible and not just because "it's AI". Increased resolution via AI is ok (most of the time). Frame generation was already annoying and added zero responsiveness. But this is a complete bastardization of the artist's work.

This industry is going a rabbit hole that leads to the sewers, and some gamers will literally cheer while diving into the sewage waters.

But the next Xbox supposedly biggest leap in Xbox technology ever? Didn't they say it's minimum 5x technological leap?

@IOI If we are all being honest, majority of Todd's career is him basically just being snake oil salesman.

All that came to forefront with his, "it just works" fiasco.

@GeminiX53 Thank you for that comment on the masses. I've said that for decades now. And we are correct about it.

Really pathetic how rubbish will be defended so vehemently. It's like people actively want the worst quality possible and will pay top dollar to have less.

There do seem to be pretty wild results. Starfield and Hogwarts look like someone turned a bunch of dials up. It has that AI weirdness, but the results aren't bad. Then, Grace from RE9 seems to look drastically different and added added/boosted make up in a way that looks suspcious side by side.