'It's only $30 more than it was just a few months ago whats the big deal?"
The big deal is Microsoft is asking $80 cad, the same price as full price AAA games, for DLC and then asking for $30 a month for gamepass to access said game and DLC.
Anyone that buys this addon bundle, while being subscribed to gamepass, has just spent as much money as outright buying the premium edition of the game to own except now they get to keep paying $30 a month to keep playing it instead.
I hope Microsoft receives a ton of backlash over this and is forced to backtrack. The greed is getting ridiculous.
@AccessibleDaydream Yeah this is over the limit for me and where I draw the line.
First they raise the price of gamepass by 50%. Now they are asking me to pay 100% more for the same addon bundles offered before? Outer Worlds 2's Premium upgrade was $40. Starfield $40. Forza Horizon 5 $40.
I'm not paying $80 cad for DLC then being asked to pay an additional $30/m to access it. Lol
I still firmly believe the series X should have been the only Xbox until a Pro model equivalent was ready. I went into this generation expecting to buy a series X then a series X Pro a few years later. Now I'm not even certain if I will buy new Xbox hardware at all. Man have things ever changed in the last 5-6 years.
@Fiendish-Beaver Reality is going to be rough for people that still think Xbox has no plans to release games the same day on Playstation. This upcoming developer direct could shatter their realities as they know it haha.
@fatpunkslim I see you're trying to spin yet another story and make a mountain out of an ant hill.
Reality is Ghost of Yotei launched in October, meanwhile Forza released back in April giving it a full 6 months on sale before Playstation even released their game.
Do please go on and continue to tell us how bad Sony is doing as the market leader and how great Xbox is doing, the same Xbox that got outsold by a knockoff kinect. Lol.
With Fable releasing the same day on PS5 as it is PC & Xbox, we will be seeing a lot more Xbox games releasing day one on PS5. The only reason Forza Horizon 6 isn't is because the port isn't ready. Indiana Jones was a Xbox & PC exclusive but once Microsoft seen the money flowing in from Playstation they quickly got a port started and had it out 6 months after, I fully expect the same to happen with FH6.
Kinda strange when you make more money from your competitors audience than you do your own. Lol
@tho_mi Sony get a 30% for doing nothing. They didn't invest hundreds of millions into development or marketing, they get paid to advertise it on their store and sell it on their store. I really don't think Sonyor their fans mind at all.
Looks like they realized they didn't have enough players to support the live service model and keep those servers up. Can't say I'm surprised. I'm really not interested even with the game being single player / offline mode now.
I haven't played since finishing the battlepass a few weeks ago. Looks like it's time to hop back in and hunt some deathclaws in Endgame. Definitely picking up that Fallout Bundle as well.
Anyone else's V bucks disappear from their accounts? I had planned to just claim my free V bucks every month and accumulate a ton of them for if I ever felt like actually playing Fortnite but every month I login I get 1000 V bucks and that's it, all I have, like the previous month expired or something.
Still too expensive at $2. I thought this sounded good on paper but after watching some gameplay I'm going to pass it looks very rough. Makes sense that it was made by a single person.
I'm not expecting much, December and January are typically quieter months if I'm remembering right.
But hey, if SE and Microsoft want to show off their new tightened relationship they could always put Final Fantasy games back onto gamepass, starting with VII Intergrade.
I spent over 5600 hours playing Xbox last year and I assume about the same again this year with Final Fantasy XIV my most played game again this year. Unfortunately I can't confirm this thanks to Xbox skipping the wrap this year.
Square would be better off taking a gamepass deal for these releases. Would be a pretty big game for January. Either way, I already have the remake pre-ordered.
After the recent beta test or whatever it seems like the sentiment around the game is a lot more positive now. Great to see Bungie was able to work out a deal with the artist and get this game back on track.
I'm in the middle of a playthrough of this on PC via geforce now with everything set to ultra nightmare and all the path tracing / ray tracing options enabled. Gorgeous game. With DLSS quality i'm getting around 103fps at these settings but DLAA takes it all the way down to like 44-60 fps bouncing all over the place.
I have to say I miss the glory kills from Eternal. There's a couple here and there but I miss being able to do them whenever I wanted and how there were different ones for in-front / behind / side of enemies as well as below or above them doing different things as well.
These games are hardly anything to get excited over. I always get a good chuckle out of some people making a mountain out of an ant hill though whenever something, anything, moves over from Playstation to Xbox. Five Nights at Freddy's is not, and will never be the same as Halo, Gears & Forza making their way to Playstation along with so many other Xbox games and that's a damn shame.
Honestly after tonight's game awards that's good to hear. So many games tonight are either Steam exclusives or Steam & PS5. A lot of games seem to be skipping Xbox that were announced at TGA.
It takes like a minute or less to create a new Microsoft account. Just subscribe to Ultimate on a new account and add that account to your Xbox. Gamepass is shared with all other accounts, including your real one / the one you actually use day to day.
I used to abuse the $1 trials this way all the time.
I swear Rockstar can't release a single thing without there being controversy and when it all boils down to it the reason always comes back to greed. At this point I fully expect the rumored RDR2 update will be a $70 game.
This was definitely not worth watching. What a boring show with like one interesting reveal. I guess the big Showcase earlier in the year is the one worth watching.
The fact Split Fiction was not nominated for GOTY is criminal. Hazelight studios is incredibly talented and just like It Takes Two, Split Fiction was an absolute blast and treat to play through.
@Fiendish-Beaver I would say the campaign is normal. I usually play them on veteran so this one felt pretty darn easy. Endgame provides more difficulty but then becomes trivial when you hit around operator rank 40.(Not your multiplayer rank but each individual operator you can choose has a rank you rank up.) Really every ten ranks each zone in endgame becomes trivial so at rank 10 the enemies in zone 1 become like 1 shot kills or 2-3 something like that depending on your gun of course then rank 20-25 stomps through zone 2 and so on.
On a related note something that's happened to me two times in Endgame now though... there seems to be a bug with exfils. I don't know if it has to do with reaching rank 40 or higher in a round but both times I have reached that operator rank and tried to exfil the damn thing wouldn't work and I died after the timer ran out. I would have at least one or two max rank operators by now if that had not happened lol.
I had an entirely different experience. I played through the campaign solo and ĺoved every second of it. The levels that give you a sniper like the VS Recon were so much fun shooting head after head after hear. Earning both level and weapon XP as well as completing challenges. I haven't even touched the multiplayer or zombies yet and just reached level 40 from campaign + Endgame.
I loved it so much in fact that I purchased the vault edition upgrade because I can already tell I'm going to be sticking with this years CoD for the long haul so long as Endgame recieves updates and support throughout the year. Been hearing rumors or giant bosses and.. dinosaurs? coming to Endgame.
@DennisReynolds game becomes profitable shortly after launch, goes on to sell millions more in pure profit. Announces intention to release already profitable game on more platforms, something that takes a very small fraction of total development costs. Spiderman cost like what, 3m to port to PC and 4m for the sequel? Lol
"Sony & Shift Up are desperate for money, they need it to make this game profitable."
@TrollOfWar Not to mention the total loss of Xbox's image leading to so many people to ask themselves what the point of owning a Xbox was anymore and hardware sales spiraling downwards at an accelerated rate. Now that gamepass is $30/m even the "it's got gamepass" narrative has fallen apart.
Gone mostly smoothly. Sure, if Microsoft's drive entailed dragging the Xbox brand through the mud and showing no concern or respect for their longest, most loyal fans. They had a very smooth drive.
As for Sony and Bungie, it certainly hasn't gone as planned but something everyone seems to be overlooking, or framing as a bad thing, is that Bungie convinced Sony to cancel multiple live service games, potentially saving hundreds of millions of dollars and another PR nightmare like Concord was.
Any word on what happened to the console release of Terminull Brigade? It was supposed to release yesterday, October 31st, but hasn't shown up anywhere and the developers have been radio silent.
Watching the death of the Xbox brand as we know it has been sad to watch. Everyone that cheered on the Activision aquisition has got to be feeling quite let down, I know I am and I was against it from day one.
I had a strong feeling Robocop was headed to gamepass due to the recent steep discounts / sales on it. Glad I waited and didn't pull the trigger on it.
Holy smokes, I thought the Switch 2 was overpriced but this thing is on a whole other level. $950 for the cheaper version and $1500 for the more expensive version when converted to my currency.
@TrevorP86 oh no they removed CP content; put underwear on hostages and disabled the gore effects on dead bodies, living enemies still have full gore and blood when shot.
@Balaam_ I wonder the same myself every time I see yet another Xbox game announced for Playstation. Maybe this is the way Xbox was inevitably going to end up but there's no doubt in my mind that this aquisition significantly sped things up in this direction.
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Re: Nioh 3 Could Mark The Series' Xbox Debut As Sony Confirms 6-Month PS5 Exclusivity
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Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
Yikes, Xbox had 34% in this poll last year, the interest in developing for Xbox is falling fast.
Re: Forza Horizon 6's Controversial Game Pass Upgrade Costs As Much As The Game Itself
Gotta love the mental gymnastics going on here.
'It's only $30 more than it was just a few months ago whats the big deal?"
The big deal is Microsoft is asking $80 cad, the same price as full price AAA games, for DLC and then asking for $30 a month for gamepass to access said game and DLC.
Anyone that buys this addon bundle, while being subscribed to gamepass, has just spent as much money as outright buying the premium edition of the game to own except now they get to keep paying $30 a month to keep playing it instead.
I hope Microsoft receives a ton of backlash over this and is forced to backtrack. The greed is getting ridiculous.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Officially Launches On Xbox In May, Here's Your First Look At Open-World Japan
@AccessibleDaydream Yeah this is over the limit for me and where I draw the line.
First they raise the price of gamepass by 50%. Now they are asking me to pay 100% more for the same addon bundles offered before? Outer Worlds 2's Premium upgrade was $40. Starfield $40. Forza Horizon 5 $40.
I'm not paying $80 cad for DLC then being asked to pay an additional $30/m to access it. Lol
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Officially Launches On Xbox In May, Here's Your First Look At Open-World Japan
So the premium upgrade for gamepass users is $80 instead of $40 now? No thank you, I will stick with the standard gamepass release.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Almost Had Full Ray Tracing On Xbox Series S, But Its RAM Caused Issues
I still firmly believe the series X should have been the only Xbox until a Pro model equivalent was ready. I went into this generation expecting to buy a series X then a series X Pro a few years later. Now I'm not even certain if I will buy new Xbox hardware at all. Man have things ever changed in the last 5-6 years.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 PS5 Sales Beat Sony's Biggest 2025 Exclusive In Europe, Other Xbox Games Make Top 20
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Re: Forza Horizon 5 PS5 Sales Beat Sony's Biggest 2025 Exclusive In Europe, Other Xbox Games Make Top 20
@Fiendish-Beaver Reality is going to be rough for people that still think Xbox has no plans to release games the same day on Playstation. This upcoming developer direct could shatter their realities as they know it haha.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 PS5 Sales Beat Sony's Biggest 2025 Exclusive In Europe, Other Xbox Games Make Top 20
@fatpunkslim I see you're trying to spin yet another story and make a mountain out of an ant hill.
Reality is Ghost of Yotei launched in October, meanwhile Forza released back in April giving it a full 6 months on sale before Playstation even released their game.
Do please go on and continue to tell us how bad Sony is doing as the market leader and how great Xbox is doing, the same Xbox that got outsold by a knockoff kinect. Lol.
Re: I've Never Played Final Fantasy 7 Before, But I'm Liking The Remake On Xbox So Far
I have been waiting for this for a long time. I wonder if it's a global release or if I can't start early taking a trip to new zealand.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Hits Huge Sales Milestone In Its First Year On PS5, According To New Estimates
@Jenkinss "its just 4 games" except now it's "well it might not launch the same day."
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@TheGameThrifter "its just 4 games" all over again. Lol
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Hits Huge Sales Milestone In Its First Year On PS5, According To New Estimates
Very impressive numbers!
With Fable releasing the same day on PS5 as it is PC & Xbox, we will be seeing a lot more Xbox games releasing day one on PS5. The only reason Forza Horizon 6 isn't is because the port isn't ready. Indiana Jones was a Xbox & PC exclusive but once Microsoft seen the money flowing in from Playstation they quickly got a port started and had it out 6 months after, I fully expect the same to happen with FH6.
Kinda strange when you make more money from your competitors audience than you do your own. Lol
Re: Phil Spencer Reveals 'Xbox 25' Logo And Shares Video Message Ahead Of Developer Direct
@tho_mi Sony get a 30% for doing nothing. They didn't invest hundreds of millions into development or marketing, they get paid to advertise it on their store and sell it on their store. I really don't think Sonyor their fans mind at all.
Re: Xbox-Published Game Towerborne Ditches Free-To-Play Model, Launches 'In Full' This February
Looks like they realized they didn't have enough players to support the live service model and keep those servers up. Can't say I'm surprised. I'm really not interested even with the game being single player / offline mode now.
Re: Xbox Unveils Its Latest Crossover As Fallout Joins Call Of Duty: Warzone & Black Ops 7
I haven't played since finishing the battlepass a few weeks ago. Looks like it's time to hop back in and hunt some deathclaws in Endgame. Definitely picking up that Fallout Bundle as well.
Re: South Park Joins Fortnite This Week, Two Months After The Successful Simpsons Season
Anyone else's V bucks disappear from their accounts? I had planned to just claim my free V bucks every month and accumulate a ton of them for if I ever felt like actually playing Fortnite but every month I login I get 1000 V bucks and that's it, all I have, like the previous month expired or something.
Re: These 11 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass, Including Two Major Additions (January 6-22)
One would think the Premium tier recieved a 50% price increase with all the games it receives every month compared to Ultimate.
What a dissapointing start to 2026.
Re: PSA: Choo-Choo Charles Costs Less Than A Cup Of Coffee On Xbox This Week
Still too expensive at $2. I thought this sounded good on paper but after watching some gameplay I'm going to pass it looks very rough. Makes sense that it was made by a single person.
Re: Xbox Game Pass: Two Games Announced For January 2026, And Here's When To Expect More
I'm not expecting much, December and January are typically quieter months if I'm remembering right.
But hey, if SE and Microsoft want to show off their new tightened relationship they could always put Final Fantasy games back onto gamepass, starting with VII Intergrade.
Re: Talking Point: How Much Would You Be Willing To Spend On The Next Xbox Console?
If it costs more than a Playstation 6 I won't be buying one. I know that much for sure.
Re: Talking Point: How Much Time Have You Spent Gaming On Xbox Consoles This Year?
I spent over 5600 hours playing Xbox last year and I assume about the same again this year with Final Fantasy XIV my most played game again this year. Unfortunately I can't confirm this thanks to Xbox skipping the wrap this year.
Re: 'Xbox Wrapped' Ditched For 2025 Due To Ambitious 2026 Plans, Suggests Report
I'm sure the few dollars Microsoft saved by not paying a couple developers to work on it is going to make next year so amazing. /s
Re: Square Enix Reinforces 'Close Partnership' With Xbox As FF7 Remake Director Visits Microsoft HQ
Square would be better off taking a gamepass deal for these releases. Would be a pretty big game for January. Either way, I already have the remake pre-ordered.
Re: Square Enix Drops Free Final Fantasy 7 Remake Demo On Xbox Series X|S
The original holds a very special place in my heart for various reasons inside the game and out. I'm very much looking forward to this.
Re: Bungie's Marathon To Release In March 2026, Pricing And More Details Revealed
After the recent beta test or whatever it seems like the sentiment around the game is a lot more positive now. Great to see Bungie was able to work out a deal with the artist and get this game back on track.
Re: Xbox's DOOM: The Dark Ages Wins Digital Foundry's 'Graphics Of The Year' Award
I'm in the middle of a playthrough of this on PC via geforce now with everything set to ultra nightmare and all the path tracing / ray tracing options enabled. Gorgeous game. With DLSS quality i'm getting around 103fps at these settings but DLAA takes it all the way down to like 44-60 fps bouncing all over the place.
I have to say I miss the glory kills from Eternal. There's a couple here and there but I miss being able to do them whenever I wanted and how there were different ones for in-front / behind / side of enemies as well as below or above them doing different things as well.
Re: Two PS5 Console Exclusives Are Finally Releasing On Xbox Next Week
These games are hardly anything to get excited over. I always get a good chuckle out of some people making a mountain out of an ant hill though whenever something, anything, moves over from Playstation to Xbox. Five Nights at Freddy's is not, and will never be the same as Halo, Gears & Forza making their way to Playstation along with so many other Xbox games and that's a damn shame.
Re: Xbox Announces Developer Direct Showcase For January, Teases 'A Lot' Of Game Releases In 2026
Honestly after tonight's game awards that's good to hear. So many games tonight are either Steam exclusives or Steam & PS5. A lot of games seem to be skipping Xbox that were announced at TGA.
Re: Xbox Launches New $1 Game Pass Ultimate Offer For The Holidays
It takes like a minute or less to create a new Microsoft account. Just subscribe to Ultimate on a new account and add that account to your Xbox. Gamepass is shared with all other accounts, including your real one / the one you actually use day to day.
I used to abuse the $1 trials this way all the time.
Re: These 14 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (December 2-11)
Oh brother, these games stink! 50% price increase and Microsoft gives Ultimate members slop. Thanks Microsoft.
Re: Red Dead Redemption's Free Upgrade Is Finally Rolling Out For Xbox Series X|S
I'm sure it was just a technical glitch and absolutely nothing to do with Rockstar hoping the impatient would buy the game with the 50% discount.
Re: Rockstar Causes Confusion Over Red Dead Redemption Upgrade On Xbox
I swear Rockstar can't release a single thing without there being controversy and when it all boils down to it the reason always comes back to greed. At this point I fully expect the rumored RDR2 update will be a $70 game.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade November's Xbox Partner Preview Event?
I give it a C-. There was barely anything revealed that looked like something I wanted to play.
Re: Roundup: All The Reveals From 2025's Xbox Partner Preview Showcase
This was definitely not worth watching. What a boring show with like one interesting reveal. I guess the big Showcase earlier in the year is the one worth watching.
Re: Two Xbox Game Pass Titles Nominated For GOTY At The Game Awards, But Microsoft Misses Out
The fact Split Fiction was not nominated for GOTY is criminal. Hazelight studios is incredibly talented and just like It Takes Two, Split Fiction was an absolute blast and treat to play through.
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
@Fiendish-Beaver I would say the campaign is normal. I usually play them on veteran so this one felt pretty darn easy. Endgame provides more difficulty but then becomes trivial when you hit around operator rank 40.(Not your multiplayer rank but each individual operator you can choose has a rank you rank up.) Really every ten ranks each zone in endgame becomes trivial so at rank 10 the enemies in zone 1 become like 1 shot kills or 2-3 something like that depending on your gun of course then rank 20-25 stomps through zone 2 and so on.
On a related note something that's happened to me two times in Endgame now though... there seems to be a bug with exfils. I don't know if it has to do with reaching rank 40 or higher in a round but both times I have reached that operator rank and tried to exfil the damn thing wouldn't work and I died after the timer ran out. I would have at least one or two max rank operators by now if that had not happened lol.
Re: Black Ops 7 Campaign Review (Xbox): Black Ops Pedigree Can't Save This Mess Of A COD Campaign
I had an entirely different experience. I played through the campaign solo and ĺoved every second of it. The levels that give you a sniper like the VS Recon were so much fun shooting head after head after hear. Earning both level and weapon XP as well as completing challenges. I haven't even touched the multiplayer or zombies yet and just reached level 40 from campaign + Endgame.
I loved it so much in fact that I purchased the vault edition upgrade because I can already tell I'm going to be sticking with this years CoD for the long haul so long as Endgame recieves updates and support throughout the year. Been hearing rumors or giant bosses and.. dinosaurs? coming to Endgame.
Re: Hit PS5 Exclusive Stellar Blade May Be On The Way To Xbox In The Near Future
@DennisReynolds game becomes profitable shortly after launch, goes on to sell millions more in pure profit. Announces intention to release already profitable game on more platforms, something that takes a very small fraction of total development costs. Spiderman cost like what, 3m to port to PC and 4m for the sequel? Lol
"Sony & Shift Up are desperate for money, they need it to make this game profitable."
Make it make sense.
Re: Call Of Duty Dev Clarifies Skill-Based Matchmaking Options In Black Ops 7
Got my flight to New Zealand booked.
Re: Sony's Purchase Of Former Xbox Studio Bungie Isn't Exactly Going To Plan
@TrollOfWar Not to mention the total loss of Xbox's image leading to so many people to ask themselves what the point of owning a Xbox was anymore and hardware sales spiraling downwards at an accelerated rate. Now that gamepass is $30/m even the "it's got gamepass" narrative has fallen apart.
Gone mostly smoothly. Sure, if Microsoft's drive entailed dragging the Xbox brand through the mud and showing no concern or respect for their longest, most loyal fans. They had a very smooth drive.
As for Sony and Bungie, it certainly hasn't gone as planned but something everyone seems to be overlooking, or framing as a bad thing, is that Bungie convinced Sony to cancel multiple live service games, potentially saving hundreds of millions of dollars and another PR nightmare like Concord was.
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In November 2025
Any word on what happened to the console release of Terminull Brigade? It was supposed to release yesterday, October 31st, but hasn't shown up anywhere and the developers have been radio silent.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Halo: Campaign Evolved Launching Day One On PS5?
Watching the death of the Xbox brand as we know it has been sad to watch. Everyone that cheered on the Activision aquisition has got to be feeling quite let down, I know I am and I was against it from day one.
Re: Clive Barker's Hellraiser: Revival Announced For Xbox, And It's 'Closer Than You'd Think'
I am so in! I'm looking forward to seeing more. Another horror franchise I wish got it's own modern game is Nightmare on Elm street.
Re: These Eight Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (July 17-August 1)
I had a strong feeling Robocop was headed to gamepass due to the recent steep discounts / sales on it. Glad I waited and didn't pull the trigger on it.
Re: ASUS Seems To Have Accidentally Leaked The ROG Xbox Ally Prices (In Europe)
Holy smokes, I thought the Switch 2 was overpriced but this thing is on a whole other level. $950 for the cheaper version and $1500 for the more expensive version when converted to my currency.
Re: Ready Or Not Release Date, Release Times & Everything You Need To Know On Xbox
@TrevorP86 oh no they removed CP content; put underwear on hostages and disabled the gore effects on dead bodies, living enemies still have full gore and blood when shot.
No buy 🤥
Re: Microsoft Celebrates As Xbox Vs. FTC Officially Comes To An End
@Balaam_ I wonder the same myself every time I see yet another Xbox game announced for Playstation. Maybe this is the way Xbox was inevitably going to end up but there's no doubt in my mind that this aquisition significantly sped things up in this direction.