Gamers will always find a way to play games with zero input lag. If the next 'default' boxes are too prohibitive for most they will stick with Series/PS5 for even longer.
Less exclusives will be made for Helix/PS6 until it makes sense. The problem is if it is 4-5 years for prices to go down you are better off going from this gen to 2 gens later, and play a little catch up (if you need to) for the few exclusives.
Even easier for many to skip Helix/PS6 if the same game is +$10-$20 more not just $1000 console.
@FreasurePlanten or just simply 'Portal 2' or 'PS6 Portal'. So far it's the only next gen device that will make sense if there are any exclusive games and everything is digital. Though it needs to be able to dock to a TV, otherwise I'll pass for handheld only for ~$700.
Halo: CE in college, I didn't have an Xbox in 2002, but by December of 2003 I had my own Xbox console to play LAN. As well pick up CE day on launch day for PC at EBgames. Even played competitively for years. I honestly couldn't get enough for many years.
@RedNinjaX exactly, but my stance is if you either don't want create a good enough game especially worth replaying or very memorable why would I want to keep why wouldn't I sell it?
We have landed in an age where big AAA games take too much money and time to create so they are too safe and end up generally boring and forgettable.
They have milked gamers for long enough now on this strategy it now isn't enough more for them to call profit. They have to step in and reign in the control of more of the money and ownership.
It's just that simple, but the problem is doing so doesn't mean the same sales numbers from the same people especially primarily physical buyers. We will wait even longer for digital sales or simply now just skip the game.
In turn most companies will eventually move on from AAA as the sales will be even worse and again try for GaaS money to fail mostly or a few will try the Rockstar method. One company of many along with Rockstar will probably succeed but the rest will fail because of greed.
They have turned the art into pure commodity and only few big publishers/platforms will remain with Rockstar and Nintendo. Most games will be indies (for the better).
In a lot of ways this is Sony's GamePass moment, will it make or break the PlayStation business? No one knows yet but by the numbers Sony wants to take the bet.
@oopsiezz the only way Helix can come close to PS6 sales is closer to same price but better hardware/features and have a way to use discs AND get new games on disc/media to collect/resell. If they don't they will stay behind PS by a 2x or 3x deficit. If they do discs they could equal PS6 sales over time potentially.
@StylesT if they have interesting games yeah the most expensive and best most consumer friendly digital ecosystem first (I.e. Xbox). Then maybe a PS6 Pro or just wait out a PS7 tbh. If PS stays the all digital path it's just wait for sale on like anything and everything on that platform, including the console.
Even if this is just disc to digital for Xbox One and Xbox Series X discs it's a win.
If this is full-on replication of Series X features with OG, 360, and One discs then WITH feature upgrades with Series X games I'll likely be there day one begrudgingly.
If this somehow gives all or some of above and some new Helix games come to disc also? Man I'd happy pay a super high price for this console with new Xbox Studios games coming.
I get that there is negative sentiment from myself and others about the lack of 1st party games to disc or fully on disc but that was Phil's era not Asha's potentially. The new management has to make the call and they have a slam dunk chance to steal PS4/PS5 users by the millions. They are there right now potentially considering Xbox again or maybe for the first time ever. Why pass up this opportunity of player increase?
@duncanwarrior99 I think reach also means just knowing about XBOXs asinine decisions. Not a way in hell she means people playing games on an Xbox platform. Not even most gaming combined on current gen hardware does that including PC.
@Banjo- with all of the internal firings how else will MGS make big AAA games on strictly internal engines? Ya can't.
It's obvious Halo Studio are poised to be temporary hired in to assist the next Halo games get out the door faster. Via Unreal Engine.
This is one of the most idiotic firings so far. Why? Because iD is the owner of their engine and MachineGames uses it as well. If you aren't going to downsize both studios you don't make sense to keep using iD tech engine either. None of this makes much sense.
EDIT: After starting Revelations it feels like Xbox execs are even more disconnected to Xbox/Bethesda devs more than they ever have or at least at it's all time worst. This expansion is good, what a waste of talent. As well at least this is a celebration of their work.
So this is the thing, if the disc isn't doable anymore move on to another physical game type.
Nintendo has even with ***** Game Key Cards that is resaleable. If discs are only legacy via disc to digital, okay. But at least attempt to seem like you are trying. If not you are just being greedy.
Greedy corps = less trust. Over time = less sales. It's pretty obvious but it seems like we are living in the day and age of corporate risk is at its maximum.
If Xbox doesn't want to do it the exodus will continue to move towards physical to Nintendo and digital to Steam. It's really that simple. Seppuku can happen to both PlayStation and Xbox.
If they want to succeed and have a chance (again) at being the 'default' platform like 360 or PS4 were during their respective generations for the industry you create value for all types/varieties of gamers. Keeping physical is step 1.
It's a close one between OG and 360 but it's in the 65-75 for both. One I got so many games digital for cheap so I tested the waters more with digital for a while. Then Series I turned back to as many physical games as possible, I think I have 45.
It's officially over. With this value I'll likely extract my purchase price of my Series X and use it for a new OLED TV.
Sad state of affairs at Xbox, but I gotta do what is right for me which for current gen systems PC/PS5/Switch 2. Fun while it lasted with the brand, and I'll still have a OG/360 to play and maybe some PC GamePass.
@TheSimulator pretty sure this waste stated to be 3rd person only in previous talks with Arcane before and it's a comic book art style, similar to Marvel vs Capcom 3.
@dkxcalibur Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Rebirth came with 2 discs in the box. Xbox has come with 2+ discs games in the past (Red Dead 2 was 2 discs). Rockstar just doesn't want to pay $2-$3 per extra disc, they don't want the game to leak, and they don't want you to resell the game.
That is all this is. Maximum corporate control, also best way to force double dipping by consumers IF they ever release a physical disc version and/or PC version releases.
Just sell a $100-$120 disc version in like December in much lower quantities and skip the very destructive code in the box to the environment version at launch.
He's not wrong about the passion. They need the right people in charge and creating the games. Problem is it doesn't look like that is happening for most of Xbox even currently after Phil/Sara.
Definitely a new world over there at Xbox. We literally have no idea how strange/sad it's about to get. The right word for it is 'dire', which is really crazy as the brand is profitable currently. Either they are planning to bare bones it into the ground or trying their hardest to ***** up people lives before selling it off.
It would be nice to have something positive to talk about with Xbox sometimes.
They have no idea what they are doing besides making random games exclusive. They should do what they are doing (previously) or just fully rip the bandaid off. Bethesda and Activision aren't Xbox Studios just make all Xbox Studios game exclusive if you are doing this.
I assume $599 right? Looks cool but unfortunately timing in the state of the world.
@oopsiezz basically the opposite in my eyes, with font on one side of the controller? Yeah that's bunk imo. Console looks awesome and is to match the Halo 2 OG Xbox that came out.
Really nice gesture to fans of Xbox. Truth be told a good use of Microsoft money vs dumping it into AI. Feels good just to hear they are trying to recommit to the console, which means over time cheaper hardware. Equals more people can play. All good news.
No poll? This was the only series I have in the past but +$50 (even key sites), nah.
You have to be out of your mind for what 2-3 extra days?
I've been split 50/50 if the expansions were worth the money in the past.
Also, this game while reviewed well seems to be "living with the Horizon jank" I thought would go away when Xbox One support went away. Not much damage, flying through all the trees, and super odd/still humans in story moments.
Also, also gives me a few days to install it on and find time to play it for a few hours.
Better than a detachable drive for at least BC games they have already committed to on previous consoles. If not there is zero reason to get the console. Like 110% no reason but if they do BC physical only then they will have my attention. New games are such a lost cause in Xbox sadly. I barley could name a new AAA game with a physical copy fully on disc. Remake I know DQ7 Reimagined is.
@Banjo- we actually do not know what type of Windows will it run. Full exe or anything applicable application able to open OR just simply allows PC game stores to be installed AND be sandboxed in another VM with limited flexibility.
Those two things ARE TOTALLY different situations. Full blown open Windows is still something I doubt. It's still probably a partially locked down Windows OS and don't be shocked if Microsoft pulls the later for Helix.
It's what they are doing and have been for 360, One, and Series consoles anyway. They run on a version of Windows and the games are just VMs. This is probably just expanding the compatibility of their gaming OS. They have done limited Windows OSs for decades. Windows 10S or early Windows ARM OS anyone? This isn't 'new' for Microsoft.
It's been discussed the BOM for a while should be around ~$900 USD via the codename Magnus info. My gut reaction months ago was $750-$850 and we know ram/SSD prices are still climbing.
Unfortunately if it doesn't have a disc drive for older games $900 is my limit or $1k with a disc drive for BC for older games. Still though it's basically gonna be a copy of my current PCs power just easily able to put near a TV, still could be worth it for many people.
Gaming is so important to Microsoft you put someone that has done nothing with gaming in charge of gaming. Does she even play games. Even had an Xbox ever in her life?
To quote Bobby Hill I am concerned about Xbox as his purse: "That's my purse I don't know you!"
The trajectory of Xbox behind the scenes has been okay for about 1-2 years now when things are looking generally positive for games, publishing, and a next gen console we....do this.
If the core team focus has been less on AI (this was the push to get Sharma to get Xbox to making money again) and this is Microsoft of old mentality to get Xbox really back to a strong 360 place without exclusives they better continue pumping out internal games as quick as possible to make this positive for gamers.
Either Phil got pushed to retirement and/or asks to leave for replacement but that person wasn't Sarah nor anyone in Microsoft related to Gaming at all.
It's embarrassing and I totally understand why she left. She got stiffed by someone that likely isn't qualified or knows d*** about video games.
It's just strange Sharma didn't have a position on Xbox for 1-2 YEARS before this. It's just too abrupt to make any sense.
If it's on disc day one on the better version. Whatever it is Series X or PS5 Pro. If no disc version or delayed disc version then I might wait until it's out for PC instead. It's up to Rockstar to ***** this launch up. Good luck.
@Weebleman Correct, even if it's Xbox in name and the app is named Xbox and it does indeed play Xbox games in backwards compatibility via a launcher or a VM window and pops up in front of other windows on the desktop it...is...still....a P...C... If someone wanted that they would have it already. The Windows OS SUCKS on a TV. It's bad, really bad. The biggest problem Microsoft has with a hybrid box is getting the OS to handle a controller just like the Xbox Series consoles does today and has since launch.
If they cannot do that day one next console/hybrid people will complain even if it's a $500-$600 box, let alone a $799-$999 prices box. People want a streamlined OS experience not a very non-controller friendly Windows OS with a start menu. This is their biggest hurdle. Not price. Not lack or missing some 3rd party games. It's the damn OS experience. It's going to ruin the 'Xbox' brand if they cannot get a good solution and the new Xbox full screen experience is not it. It might be a 1/4 of the way to where it should be, maybe. It's bad on the Xbox Ally X, that is like a alpha of a concept of a plan.
I just don't understand why they cannot expand the other way from the Series Windows OS and make it compatible with x86 applications and apps. Using Windows 11 as the place to start ain't it.
No surprises every single game on top 10 was in or still is in GamePass. This is the monster Microsoft created and needs to understand what it did to the platform moving forward.
Enjoyed Avowed, TOW2, and Doom TDA a decent amount. But Ball X Pit, CO:E33 and Ninja Gaiden 4 were the highlights for me this year at least within Xbox eco.
I did notice years ago leaving messages made the UI slower, though I don't have 1000+ friends. I haven't seen significant slowdown unless I'm downloading games/updates and/or jumping in and out of a game.
Great hardware no doubt. Quick Resume is magical for single player games. BC rules for the games there. But past that point...yeah not much vs other consoles/PC.
5 years in it's starting to age though with zero of it's own generation exclusives. Feels like no other console in history due to this situation. Still enjoy mine but only turn on for the next GamePass game to try. Next summer (when my GPU is up) it will be my legacy games console only.
It's really good some of the Fallout games are getting better versions but not 3 or New Vegas... Old games that need it MORE. It's like they don't even understand which Fallout made the IP so popular on a broader scale also. I get not Fallout 1 or 2, which I hope are getting remade completely in first person but that's exponentially more work.
EDIT: Missed comment @themightyant yep I knew I wasn't the only person that thought his.
Even a person that just buys one Xbox a generation and looks online once a week for game reviews will see these articles and piece that after their massive ABK on GamePass and consoles over and over within 2 years will see that Xbox as a brand struggling. They are unable to sell more of any game or hardware versus all other platforms every single time. Then they see the prices of ROG Xbox Ally | X devices and see $600 for the base unit and realize next gen is gonna be at least $600+ for a console. It's not looking good for the brand just from a marketing, announcement, and data info standpoint for the consumer. No matter how good the experience is right now on their console. Does it suck this is happening? Yes I hate to see a great ecosystem and platform seem like it's fine crumbling after each new official announcement or rumor.
48gb doesn't math on 192-bit bus. It's probably gonna be 36gb at most with the limitations of 3gb GDDR7 chips in 2025. Likely only if 4gb nand exists by then will it be 48gb of ram. I'd have to research if 4gb chips are planned by Samsung or micron even in the next few years.
It need Hall Effects or TMR joysticks otherwise it will be trash like the previous. It's one thing paying $40-$60 on a entry level Xbox controller just because the feel of the controller it's another paying $150-$200 on a controller without premium hardware. If 8bitdo can on controllers in the $50 price range Xbox can for sub $100.
@Simu001 yep I totally get it out of the devs hands and was started/completed since before this was even a thing. I'm thinking Split Fiction/BF6 are my last EA games I play unfortunately.
The tightness of gunplay is better then the added jump/skipping off walls is good and not gameplay breaking. The UI is much better in 7 than 6 but past that who knows. Fine is the best way to describe it, but with all the layoffs especially within Activision what else do we expect really?
@simu001 I would be too if EA wasn't sold out now.
Feedback is: it sucks look at the data and how many people are cancelling. The resell value of the Series consoles is tanking and some stores have clearance pricing them in the USA.
It's basically over, we barely blinked hardware prices went up so did GamePass 2-3 times collectively together within a year. Killed the brand that was already struggling for the people still supporting it past a GamePass sub. Everyone I know hardcore Xbox either sold their console/stopped GamePass, stopped GamePass and will just buy games here or there, or killed their GamePass play what they have in Xbox then buying anything new on PlayStation.
Where is all the old Activision games? WoW sub added into Ultimate? We want quality not Fortnite skins or Assassin's Creed 9-13. Get with the program grandpa. Quality for double the price.
Riding out my pre-paid cheap Ultimate sub end of 2026 in some form (with or without a Series X and) on a PC.
Very unlikely I'll switch to PC GamePass again, $17 is a bit more than I think it's worth and by end of 2026 PC GamePass could be either $25-$30 or loose day one games anyways. Also I want to take note that Ubisoft+ and Fortnite Crew as added "value" is straight up insulting. Ah yes 2 ($25-$30 on sale to keep) AAA games worth of value and some skin to a multiplayer game. LMAO
I'm kind of just soured of the brand even though I liked the controller, the hardware, PlayAnywhere, the dashboard, VRR, Dolby/DTS support, and a decent attempt to keep Series X disc games at the start of the generation. Nice while it lasted.
Well this is effectively as close as you can get to killing the brand before killing it.
I have Ultimate just because a cheap conversion to end of 2026. But after that? I don't even think any version of GamePass, maybe PC but this about seals that I'm done with Xbox consoles after Series X (and not even because disc games on Xbox are about dead).
Nice run for Xbox I guess, but a big wet fart to kill itself even with still existing.
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Re: The Validity Of Consoles May Face A 'Real Test' Amid Rising Prices, Says Ex-Xbox Boss
Gamers will always find a way to play games with zero input lag. If the next 'default' boxes are too prohibitive for most they will stick with Series/PS5 for even longer.
Less exclusives will be made for Helix/PS6 until it makes sense. The problem is if it is 4-5 years for prices to go down you are better off going from this gen to 2 gens later, and play a little catch up (if you need to) for the few exclusives.
Even easier for many to skip Helix/PS6 if the same game is +$10-$20 more not just $1000 console.
@FreasurePlanten or just simply 'Portal 2' or 'PS6 Portal'. So far it's the only next gen device that will make sense if there are any exclusive games and everything is digital. Though it needs to be able to dock to a TV, otherwise I'll pass for handheld only for ~$700.
Re: Talking Point: What Was The First Halo Game You Ever Played?
Halo: CE in college, I didn't have an Xbox in 2002, but by December of 2003 I had my own Xbox console to play LAN. As well pick up CE day on launch day for PC at EBgames. Even played competitively for years. I honestly couldn't get enough for many years.
Re: Xbox Project Helix Vs. PS6 - Data Firm Reveals Its Forecasted Sales Figures For Each
@RedNinjaX exactly, but my stance is if you either don't want create a good enough game especially worth replaying or very memorable why would I want to keep why wouldn't I sell it?
We have landed in an age where big AAA games take too much money and time to create so they are too safe and end up generally boring and forgettable.
They have milked gamers for long enough now on this strategy it now isn't enough more for them to call profit. They have to step in and reign in the control of more of the money and ownership.
It's just that simple, but the problem is doing so doesn't mean the same sales numbers from the same people especially primarily physical buyers. We will wait even longer for digital sales or simply now just skip the game.
In turn most companies will eventually move on from AAA as the sales will be even worse and again try for GaaS money to fail mostly or a few will try the Rockstar method. One company of many along with Rockstar will probably succeed but the rest will fail because of greed.
They have turned the art into pure commodity and only few big publishers/platforms will remain with Rockstar and Nintendo. Most games will be indies (for the better).
In a lot of ways this is Sony's GamePass moment, will it make or break the PlayStation business? No one knows yet but by the numbers Sony wants to take the bet.
Re: Xbox Project Helix Vs. PS6 - Data Firm Reveals Its Forecasted Sales Figures For Each
@oopsiezz the only way Helix can come close to PS6 sales is closer to same price but better hardware/features and have a way to use discs AND get new games on disc/media to collect/resell. If they don't they will stay behind PS by a 2x or 3x deficit. If they do discs they could equal PS6 sales over time potentially.
Re: Xbox Project Helix Vs. PS6 - Data Firm Reveals Its Forecasted Sales Figures For Each
@StylesT if they have interesting games yeah the most expensive and best most consumer friendly digital ecosystem first (I.e. Xbox). Then maybe a PS6 Pro or just wait out a PS7 tbh. If PS stays the all digital path it's just wait for sale on like anything and everything on that platform, including the console.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Still Evaluating Whether Project Helix Will Support Physical Discs
Even if this is just disc to digital for Xbox One and Xbox Series X discs it's a win.
If this is full-on replication of Series X features with OG, 360, and One discs then WITH feature upgrades with Series X games I'll likely be there day one begrudgingly.
If this somehow gives all or some of above and some new Helix games come to disc also? Man I'd happy pay a super high price for this console with new Xbox Studios games coming.
I get that there is negative sentiment from myself and others about the lack of 1st party games to disc or fully on disc but that was Phil's era not Asha's potentially. The new management has to make the call and they have a slam dunk chance to steal PS4/PS5 users by the millions. They are there right now potentially considering Xbox again or maybe for the first time ever. Why pass up this opportunity of player increase?
Re: Roundup: The First Reviews Have Arrived For AC Black Flag Resynced
Whenever the disc comes in the mail from Gamefly I'll be there.
Re: Xbox CEO Sets Ambitious Goal Of Reaching 'More Than A Billion People Each Day'
@duncanwarrior99 I think reach also means just knowing about XBOXs asinine decisions. Not a way in hell she means people playing games on an Xbox platform. Not even most gaming combined on current gen hardware does that including PC.
Re: Xbox Layoffs Cut id Software In Half As DOOM: The Dark Ages DLC Launches
@Banjo- with all of the internal firings how else will MGS make big AAA games on strictly internal engines? Ya can't.
It's obvious Halo Studio are poised to be temporary hired in to assist the next Halo games get out the door faster. Via Unreal Engine.
This is one of the most idiotic firings so far. Why? Because iD is the owner of their engine and MachineGames uses it as well. If you aren't going to downsize both studios you don't make sense to keep using iD tech engine either. None of this makes much sense.
EDIT: After starting Revelations it feels like Xbox execs are even more disconnected to Xbox/Bethesda devs more than they ever have or at least at it's all time worst. This expansion is good, what a waste of talent. As well at least this is a celebration of their work.
Re: 'Xbox, Now's Your Chance' - Fans Debate Whether Microsoft Should 'Take Advantage' Of Physical Games
So this is the thing, if the disc isn't doable anymore move on to another physical game type.
Nintendo has even with ***** Game Key Cards that is resaleable. If discs are only legacy via disc to digital, okay. But at least attempt to seem like you are trying. If not you are just being greedy.
Greedy corps = less trust. Over time = less sales. It's pretty obvious but it seems like we are living in the day and age of corporate risk is at its maximum.
If Xbox doesn't want to do it the exodus will continue to move towards physical to Nintendo and digital to Steam. It's really that simple. Seppuku can happen to both PlayStation and Xbox.
If they want to succeed and have a chance (again) at being the 'default' platform like 360 or PS4 were during their respective generations for the industry you create value for all types/varieties of gamers. Keeping physical is step 1.
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Console Have You Collected The Most Physical Games For?
It's a close one between OG and 360 but it's in the 65-75 for both. One I got so many games digital for cheap so I tested the waters more with digital for a while. Then Series I turned back to as many physical games as possible, I think I have 45.
Re: Xbox Announces Worldwide Price Increases For Series X|S Consoles
It's officially over. With this value I'll likely extract my purchase price of my Series X and use it for a new OLED TV.
Sad state of affairs at Xbox, but I gotta do what is right for me which for current gen systems PC/PS5/Switch 2. Fun while it lasted with the brand, and I'll still have a OG/360 to play and maybe some PC GamePass.
Re: Arkane Is "Doing A Really, Really Great Job" - Todd Howard's Hopeful Update On Blade
@TheSimulator pretty sure this waste stated to be 3rd person only in previous talks with Arcane before and it's a comic book art style, similar to Marvel vs Capcom 3.
Re: Eek, GTA 6's 'Physical Edition' Is A Download Code In A Box
@dkxcalibur Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Rebirth came with 2 discs in the box. Xbox has come with 2+ discs games in the past (Red Dead 2 was 2 discs). Rockstar just doesn't want to pay $2-$3 per extra disc, they don't want the game to leak, and they don't want you to resell the game.
That is all this is. Maximum corporate control, also best way to force double dipping by consumers IF they ever release a physical disc version and/or PC version releases.
Just sell a $100-$120 disc version in like December in much lower quantities and skip the very destructive code in the box to the environment version at launch.
This is just laughable terrible practices.
Re: Ori Creator Shares His Take On The Future Of Xbox's First-Party Strategy
He's not wrong about the passion. They need the right people in charge and creating the games. Problem is it doesn't look like that is happening for most of Xbox even currently after Phil/Sara.
Re: Xbox Series X25 Limited Edition Console & Controller Announced
@Crecca probably not just trying to think positive for their 25th anniversary after the ***** storm Sharma has unleashed this week.
Re: Two Key Members Of Xbox Game Studios Are Stepping Down
Definitely a new world over there at Xbox. We literally have no idea how strange/sad it's about to get. The right word for it is 'dire', which is really crazy as the brand is profitable currently. Either they are planning to bare bones it into the ground or trying their hardest to ***** up people lives before selling it off.
It would be nice to have something positive to talk about with Xbox sometimes.
Re: Opinion: 2010 World Cup South Africa Might Be The Best FIFA Game Of All Time
Negative, FIFA Road to the World Cup 98 for Nintendo 64. Likely will never be topped.
Re: 'This Is The Start Of A Program' - Xbox Exec Addresses Questions Around Exclusivity
They have no idea what they are doing besides making random games exclusive. They should do what they are doing (previously) or just fully rip the bandaid off. Bethesda and Activision aren't Xbox Studios just make all Xbox Studios game exclusive if you are doing this.
Re: Xbox Studio Ninja Theory Confirms 'Project: Mara' Has Been Cancelled
Horrible. I'm done with the Hellblade IP. They needed to move on, terrible decision.
Re: Xbox Series X25 Limited Edition Console & Controller Announced
I assume $599 right? Looks cool but unfortunately timing in the state of the world.
@oopsiezz basically the opposite in my eyes, with font on one side of the controller? Yeah that's bunk imo. Console looks awesome and is to match the Halo 2 OG Xbox that came out.
Re: Xbox Fans Go Wild As Asha Sharma Gives Free Consoles To Everyone At FanFest LA
Really nice gesture to fans of Xbox. Truth be told a good use of Microsoft money vs dumping it into AI. Feels good just to hear they are trying to recommit to the console, which means over time cheaper hardware. Equals more people can play. All good news.
Re: Ex-Sony, Naughty Dog & Infinity Ward Devs Announce 'Crossfire' For Xbox Series X|S
Pretty interested in this as a Ghost Recon/Army of Two hybrid. Hopefully there is a way to do 2 player online co-op.
@oopsiezz totally different dev team for X so just understanding who is making this versus that game is important.
Re: 'Xbox Or XBOX?' - Asha Sharma Hints At Rebrand Based On Poll Results
EX-BAUX option missing.....
Re: Talking Point: So, Did You Cave And Buy Early Access For Forza Horizon 6?
No poll? This was the only series I have in the past but +$50 (even key sites), nah.
You have to be out of your mind for what 2-3 extra days?
I've been split 50/50 if the expansions were worth the money in the past.
Also, this game while reviewed well seems to be "living with the Horizon jank" I thought would go away when Xbox One support went away. Not much damage, flying through all the trees, and super odd/still humans in story moments.
Also, also gives me a few days to install it on and find time to play it for a few hours.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Think Project Helix Will Support Physical Xbox Games?
Better than a detachable drive for at least BC games they have already committed to on previous consoles. If not there is zero reason to get the console. Like 110% no reason but if they do BC physical only then they will have my attention. New games are such a lost cause in Xbox sadly. I barley could name a new AAA game with a physical copy fully on disc. Remake I know DQ7 Reimagined is.
Re: 'It Will Lead In Performance' - Xbox's Price Tag For Project Helix Could Be Pretty High
@Banjo- we actually do not know what type of Windows will it run. Full exe or anything applicable application able to open OR just simply allows PC game stores to be installed AND be sandboxed in another VM with limited flexibility.
Those two things ARE TOTALLY different situations. Full blown open Windows is still something I doubt. It's still probably a partially locked down Windows OS and don't be shocked if Microsoft pulls the later for Helix.
It's what they are doing and have been for 360, One, and Series consoles anyway. They run on a version of Windows and the games are just VMs. This is probably just expanding the compatibility of their gaming OS. They have done limited Windows OSs for decades. Windows 10S or early Windows ARM OS anyone? This isn't 'new' for Microsoft.
Re: 'It Will Lead In Performance' - Xbox's Price Tag For Project Helix Could Be Pretty High
It's been discussed the BOM for a while should be around ~$900 USD via the codename Magnus info. My gut reaction months ago was $750-$850 and we know ram/SSD prices are still climbing.
Unfortunately if it doesn't have a disc drive for older games $900 is my limit or $1k with a disc drive for BC for older games. Still though it's basically gonna be a copy of my current PCs power just easily able to put near a TV, still could be worth it for many people.
Re: Microsoft CEO Shares His Thoughts On The Major Leadership Changes At Xbox
Gaming is so important to Microsoft you put someone that has done nothing with gaming in charge of gaming. Does she even play games. Even had an Xbox ever in her life?
To quote Bobby Hill I am concerned about Xbox as his purse:
"That's my purse I don't know you!"
Re: New Xbox Boss Makes Official Statement As She Takes Over From Phil Spencer
The trajectory of Xbox behind the scenes has been okay for about 1-2 years now when things are looking generally positive for games, publishing, and a next gen console we....do this.
If the core team focus has been less on AI (this was the push to get Sharma to get Xbox to making money again) and this is Microsoft of old mentality to get Xbox really back to a strong 360 place without exclusives they better continue pumping out internal games as quick as possible to make this positive for gamers.
Re: Xbox President Sarah Bond Is Also Leaving The Company, Microsoft Confirms
Either Phil got pushed to retirement and/or asks to leave for replacement but that person wasn't Sarah nor anyone in Microsoft related to Gaming at all.
It's embarrassing and I totally understand why she left. She got stiffed by someone that likely isn't qualified or knows d*** about video games.
It's just strange Sharma didn't have a position on Xbox for 1-2 YEARS before this. It's just too abrupt to make any sense.
Re: Poll: As Things Stand, Will You Be Buying GTA 6 On Xbox This November?
If it's on disc day one on the better version. Whatever it is Series X or PS5 Pro. If no disc version or delayed disc version then I might wait until it's out for PC instead. It's up to Rockstar to ***** this launch up. Good luck.
Re: Two Games Have Quietly Been Cancelled For Xbox Over The Past Week
First one I heard about and that's just unfortunate for Xbox only users, it looked good.
Re: Digital Foundry 'Highly Impressed' With Final Fantasy 7 Remake On Xbox Series X And S
Where's my physical copy?
Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
@Weebleman Correct, even if it's Xbox in name and the app is named Xbox and it does indeed play Xbox games in backwards compatibility via a launcher or a VM window and pops up in front of other windows on the desktop it...is...still....a P...C... If someone wanted that they would have it already. The Windows OS SUCKS on a TV. It's bad, really bad. The biggest problem Microsoft has with a hybrid box is getting the OS to handle a controller just like the Xbox Series consoles does today and has since launch.
If they cannot do that day one next console/hybrid people will complain even if it's a $500-$600 box, let alone a $799-$999 prices box. People want a streamlined OS experience not a very non-controller friendly Windows OS with a start menu. This is their biggest hurdle. Not price. Not lack or missing some 3rd party games. It's the damn OS experience. It's going to ruin the 'Xbox' brand if they cannot get a good solution and the new Xbox full screen experience is not it. It might be a 1/4 of the way to where it should be, maybe. It's bad on the Xbox Ally X, that is like a alpha of a concept of a plan.
I just don't understand why they cannot expand the other way from the Series Windows OS and make it compatible with x86 applications and apps. Using Windows 11 as the place to start ain't it.
Re: The Top 10 Xbox Game Pass Titles Of 2025, As Determined By Your Votes
No surprises every single game on top 10 was in or still is in GamePass. This is the monster Microsoft created and needs to understand what it did to the platform moving forward.
Enjoyed Avowed, TOW2, and Doom TDA a decent amount. But Ball X Pit, CO:E33 and Ninja Gaiden 4 were the highlights for me this year at least within Xbox eco.
Re: Xbox 360 User Shows What'll Happen When It Reaches Date Limit On December 31st, 2025
@TheOfficialJW because there are still exclusives or console exclusives locked to 360. This is like you know common sense.
Sure I play my PS5 and PC more often but I have a Morph4K hooked up to my 360 for 720p -> 1440p on a 4k tv.
Re: Xbox Owner Thinks They've Found A 'Major Design Flaw' That Impacts Game Performance
I did notice years ago leaving messages made the UI slower, though I don't have 1000+ friends. I haven't seen significant slowdown unless I'm downloading games/updates and/or jumping in and out of a game.
Re: Fallout 4: Anniversary Upgrade Launches For $40, 'Creations Bundle' Also Available For $20
Not even the upgrade is on GamePass Ultimate, super embarrassing.
Re: It's A Big Birthday For The Xbox Series X, So Let's Look Back At Our Review From 2020
Great hardware no doubt. Quick Resume is magical for single player games. BC rules for the games there. But past that point...yeah not much vs other consoles/PC.
5 years in it's starting to age though with zero of it's own generation exclusives. Feels like no other console in history due to this situation. Still enjoy mine but only turn on for the next GamePass game to try. Next summer (when my GPU is up) it will be my legacy games console only.
Re: Fallout 76 Is Officially Getting A Native Xbox Series X|S Version In Early 2026
It's really good some of the Fallout games are getting better versions but not 3 or New Vegas... Old games that need it MORE. It's like they don't even understand which Fallout made the IP so popular on a broader scale also. I get not Fallout 1 or 2, which I hope are getting remade completely in first person but that's exponentially more work.
EDIT: Missed comment @themightyant yep I knew I wasn't the only person that thought his.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Xbox's The Outer Worlds 2
All of sudden we have Ninja Gaiden 4 and Outer Worlds 2 to play. Almost too much at once.
Re: Xbox Journalist Says Latest Rumours Are 'A Huge Challenge For The Brand Right Now'
Even a person that just buys one Xbox a generation and looks online once a week for game reviews will see these articles and piece that after their massive ABK on GamePass and consoles over and over within 2 years will see that Xbox as a brand struggling. They are unable to sell more of any game or hardware versus all other platforms every single time. Then they see the prices of ROG Xbox Ally | X devices and see $600 for the base unit and realize next gen is gonna be at least $600+ for a console. It's not looking good for the brand just from a marketing, announcement, and data info standpoint for the consumer. No matter how good the experience is right now on their console. Does it suck this is happening? Yes I hate to see a great ecosystem and platform seem like it's fine crumbling after each new official announcement or rumor.
Re: Xbox 'Magnus' Leak Suggests Next Console Will Be Powerful, Expensive & Maybe A Hybrid Device
48gb doesn't math on 192-bit bus. It's probably gonna be 36gb at most with the limitations of 3gb GDDR7 chips in 2025. Likely only if 4gb nand exists by then will it be 48gb of ram. I'd have to research if 4gb chips are planned by Samsung or micron even in the next few years.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Elite Series 3 Controller For Xbox Series X|S?
It need Hall Effects or TMR joysticks otherwise it will be trash like the previous. It's one thing paying $40-$60 on a entry level Xbox controller just because the feel of the controller it's another paying $150-$200 on a controller without premium hardware. If 8bitdo can on controllers in the $50 price range Xbox can for sub $100.
Re: Black Ops 7 Beta Review (Xbox) - A Bit Of A Re-Skin, But Zombies Mode Shines
@Simu001 yep I totally get it out of the devs hands and was started/completed since before this was even a thing. I'm thinking Split Fiction/BF6 are my last EA games I play unfortunately.
Re: Black Ops 7 Beta Review (Xbox) - A Bit Of A Re-Skin, But Zombies Mode Shines
The tightness of gunplay is better then the added jump/skipping off walls is good and not gameplay breaking. The UI is much better in 7 than 6 but past that who knows. Fine is the best way to describe it, but with all the layoffs especially within Activision what else do we expect really?
@simu001 I would be too if EA wasn't sold out now.
Re: 'Price Increases Are Never Fun For Anybody' Says Xbox Exec Defending Game Pass Changes
Feedback is: it sucks look at the data and how many people are cancelling. The resell value of the Series consoles is tanking and some stores have clearance pricing them in the USA.
It's basically over, we barely blinked hardware prices went up so did GamePass 2-3 times collectively together within a year. Killed the brand that was already struggling for the people still supporting it past a GamePass sub. Everyone I know hardcore Xbox either sold their console/stopped GamePass, stopped GamePass and will just buy games here or there, or killed their GamePass play what they have in Xbox then buying anything new on PlayStation.
Where is all the old Activision games? WoW sub added into Ultimate? We want quality not Fortnite skins or Assassin's Creed 9-13. Get with the program grandpa. Quality for double the price.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Plans For Xbox Game Pass After This Week's News?
Riding out my pre-paid cheap Ultimate sub end of 2026 in some form (with or without a Series X and) on a PC.
Very unlikely I'll switch to PC GamePass again, $17 is a bit more than I think it's worth and by end of 2026 PC GamePass could be either $25-$30 or loose day one games anyways. Also I want to take note that Ubisoft+ and Fortnite Crew as added "value" is straight up insulting. Ah yes 2 ($25-$30 on sale to keep) AAA games worth of value and some skin to a multiplayer game. LMAO
I'm kind of just soured of the brand even though I liked the controller, the hardware, PlayAnywhere, the dashboard, VRR, Dolby/DTS support, and a decent attempt to keep Series X disc games at the start of the generation. Nice while it lasted.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Is Getting A Major Overhaul With New Names, Games & Price Changes
Well this is effectively as close as you can get to killing the brand before killing it.
I have Ultimate just because a cheap conversion to end of 2026. But after that? I don't even think any version of GamePass, maybe PC but this about seals that I'm done with Xbox consoles after Series X (and not even because disc games on Xbox are about dead).
Nice run for Xbox I guess, but a big wet fart to kill itself even with still existing.