If anything Microsoft needed the Pro more than Sony as our first party studios really have trouble getting past 30fps, of course that would have created a nightmare because of the S so now both companies have two systems developers have to develop for.
Yes is a problem caused by the Series S imo, the system was a mistake unfortunately βΉοΈ Phil took a gamble trying to undercut Sony but it didn't pay off as the gap between PS5 and X/S is bigger than the gap of PS4 and Xbone.
Now we are stuck with a console that's holding back the generation for Xbox and we don't even get the higher sales from it. Yes the system itself is great but the Series X should be destroying the PS5 with raw power but it can't because of the little brother.
Bet we don't see Xbox do this again next gen. We'll get two console with same specs π€
No this is something legitimate to complain about, I'm guessing the PC version doesn't have this 30fps is good enough disclaimer! I'll put it this way, if the Series S didn't exist all these games would be 60fps out the box π
"they believe that since the game is a first person single player game you don't need a 60fps mode."
That's the worst justification by far and it's not even close π
I can't believe a human said that, so following this though no single player game really needs 60fps! So all the Souls games would be best in 30fps!! The person that said that should come out and apologize for treating us like idiots.
@Banjo- All these decisions won't really effect the most hardcore but Microsoft can really run a business counting on just fanboys sticking with the brand.
If you're someone like me who always buys all the consoles I see no reason to buy the next Xbox. Having a PS6 and Switch 2 is a safe bet for playing everything next gen.
@IronMan30 Is how Microsoft rolls apparently, give competing platforms everything and receive nothing in return! I still laugh at the historic Microsoft and Nintendo partnership where they get absolutely nothing π€¦
So one update is bigger than two current gen games put together? No that's unacceptable they have to get together with Microsoft and fix it, if there's no fix then I would just delete the game and forget it ever existed.
Is just as boring as the first one if not more, easily my most disliked game of the year. Hopefully the series ended with part 2 and NT can go back to making fun games again like DmC & Enslaved!
That's messed up he must feel like ***** π even if he wasn't going to keep it he could have gotten a good chunk of money for it, specifically more if he held it for a couple of years.
@HonestHick "So how about all the games that do run better on series X over PS5. Seems like that is rarely mentioned online"
Every single game should be running better on the X as it has the most power (current most powerful console in the world!), why would it be a story that a game runs better on it? Will you consider it a story when PS5 pro games run better than Series X games?
@BacklogBrad "The "wouldnt fly on playstation" is also funny since they money hatted the first one"
I meant by that comment is that even if it was ported to PlayStation tomorrow it still wouldn't sell despite the fan base liking these movie type games. Hellblade 2 appeals to such a small audience despite costing similar to any AAA game! hopefully this is the end of that series and NT can make fun games again like DmCπ€
I don't play games to bore myself or to know what it feels like to have mental health π this game wouldn't fly on PlayStation let alone Xbox where it's users are known to prefer FPS and fast action games.
That's great news so that means Nintendo will return the favor by giving Xbox Diddy Kong racing, Star Fox Adventures, Donkey Kong 64 and the Donkey Kong country series!! No? Oh okay nevermind I thought Rare had made those for a second π
It's weird for Capcom of all people who have always supported Xbox, it can't just be low sales cause even if it is how much effort would it be to port the PS4 version to Xbone?
@Chaotic_Goat it definitely sounds sketchy, we know some Chinese companies use smoke & mirrors tactics for their games. I would wait till it's reviewed by every single publication before even considering purchasing.
You sure? this just signals to Phil to open the flood gates faster and more wider for every single game with a Xbox logo to go to PlayStation which would then result in Xbox going third party π
@RetroMan71 "A certain entitled, generation of them are π"
Pretty sure in the 80s & 90s we didn't have this extreme publisher greed of mtx, battle passes, season passes and every little thing section off and sold back to us. Everything was unlocked in the full game so there was no need to cry and act entitled π
@themightyant "With no further information too many people are very quick to ASSUME itβs due to Xbox Series S"
Because we're basing it on previous situations (from this year!) and comments made by many developers from various studios. Is it possible it's because they want to prioritise PS5? yes! But are we really beyond the pale for suggesting it might be because of the series S again?
Series S stikes again! Unfortunately is going to be more common as games become for advanced. Hopefully Microsoft learned it's lesson and next gen they will have two systems with equal power.
So the game currently runs at a maximum of 4K 30fps on the X/PS5 so if they had done double the map would it be have been 4K 15fps or perhaps 480p 30? It just seems they aren't as talented as they think they are π
@BAMozzy I understood perfectly what was the developers intent as it's a direct continuation of her mental health in the first game and I will fight for their right to tell their story, obviously it wasn't going to be for everyone.
All that said it doesn't make the game any less boring for me knowing all of that π I honestly would have prefer it in a movie format but I'm glad there are some people finding joy in it.
It needs to be rebooted from scratch by a new studio! Microsoft has more fps studios than anyone else so they surely could give the task to someone else. Could be id, Raven or even swapping in Treyarch to Halo and 343 to COD.
@awp69 "Hey, Iβll be happy enough to play this on GamePass while PlayStation folks fork out $70 at release"
And that's the problem Microsoft has created for itself, they have trained Xbox owners that you must not pay for games and must wait to get them for free. Why would Sony port Helldivers 2 to Xbox when people are going to be asking for it to be free π
@OldGamer999 "Yeah right. Low resolution, 30fps and black bars top and bottom."
It really is sad all those cut corners, can't believe we got a spiritual successor to The order 1886. I could have forgiven all those if it had great fun gameplay, unfortunately no is a snoozefest more so than the first one. If they wanted to make a movie they should have just made it, I will pray for the return of DmC Ninja Theory π€
I'll easily play the first 9 on repeat over playing Hellblade 2. I have to reiterate that if you didn't like the first one you definitely won't like 2, don't make the same mistake I made in thinking otherwise. Well at least I take comfort in that NT is making another game and it probably will be a new ip or perhaps returning to Enslaved?
@BearFut_1800 "It still has the same dull puzzles, mediocre combat and painfully slow pacing. Itβs probably a good thing itβs so short"
It was what I was dreading, I would have prefer a ugly game but be fun to play in the vein of what Nintendo makes. This obviously applies to some of Sony's titles along with many third party studios, they prioritize graphics over actually making something that's fun for the player.
Seeing the reviews it seems like they put all their skill points on graphics and sound and everything else was an after thought. It's the opposite approach from Nintendo where they make sure the game is as fun as possible and graphics take a back seat.
If there's anything I know about us Xbox players is that we loveee our movie games π
This game honestly feels like it's releasing to the wrong audience, I will still try it on GP but there's no way I would have paid money for it. I hope after this NT goes back to their fast pace DmC & Enslaved dQays cause I'm personally done with these two over "emotional" games.
My favorite was Heavenly Sword but Enslaved and DmC are right there, I actually like all their games except Hellblade π I will give Hellblade 2 a chance though, I just hope they at least give us a jog/run button this time cause It got so annoying slowly walking everywhere.
Obviously this is all rumors but if true I will be pissed off, you're making me pay more because of a game and franchise many of us don't care about π
I bought Xbox for Halo 1 which supplemented my PS2 and I have continued to buy both Sony's and Microsoft's consoles to this day. This is why it upsets me seeing the Xbox brand basically crumbling, much of it is from self inflicted wounds. PlayStation is best when Xbox is at it's best, I don't count Nintendo as they live in their own world.
I personally would have put it on GP 6 months after release, Microsoft is leaving allot of money on the table but I get it they can't just dismantle the roadmap for GP after all these years.
It's pretty obvious Satya Nadella and Amy Hood have taken the wheel, Phil Spencer and the rest of the people at Xbox have no say in the matter they probably were ordered to just stay home π
The blank checks days are over and Satya will get Xbox profits at any cost. Some Xbox fans will try to look at the positives but I don't see any, the suits have full control of Xbox and if they have to turn Xbox into Sega they will.
If I didn't already play it on GP I definitely wouldn't buy it now as I know that not even a single penny will go to the developers that made such a classic π
One of the most boring games I've ever played! slowly walking everywhere with mediocre combat and a irritating voice that couldn't shut up, their previous game was DmC which was fast and exciting so they just did the opposite of that for Hellblade!
Have pretty much Nasa level internet and found it terribly laggy with artifacts up the yahoo, also tried playing PS3 games from my PS5 with their service and is equally horrible. If gaming turns into just streaming I'm going to have to find a new hobby maybe collecting coins or something.
@Ricky-Spanish Only rabid PlayStation fanboys said that just like only Xbox fanboys said PlayStation has no games just interactive movies. Long story short don't be a fanboy for a multi billion or Trillion dollar company that wouldn't even use your face as a door mat π€·
That's nice and all but Halo needs new blood, we need some new cooks in the kitchen asap! I would have id software or Raven make the next Halo game, heck I would even put 343 on COD and have Treyarch make Halo.
Might as well at this point, is not like Hellblade 2 is going to make people run out and subscribe. Is a movie type game, not exactly the genre Xbox fans are known to love π€·
I love GP but if the result of me enjoying it is studios being close that would make content for it then I'm fine just doing away with it or at least not putting AAA exclusives on day one. For COD I would put all the games on GP except for the current years iteration, give it a year to get sales before adding it to the service.
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Re: Microsoft's New Xbox Series X And S Consoles Are Available Starting Today
Completely pointless consoles with this new X being inferior to the original, leave it to Microsoft to make Sony look good in comparison.
Re: Opinion: As The Dust Settles On PS5 Pro, I'm Still Glad Xbox Didn't Bother
If anything Microsoft needed the Pro more than Sony as our first party studios really have trouble getting past 30fps, of course that would have created a nightmare because of the S so now both companies have two systems developers have to develop for.
Re: Bizarrely, Minecraft Is Getting A Native PS5 Version But Not Xbox Series X|S
@Pabpictu You know you don't have to click on every article? You can pick and choose which ones you're interested in and ignore ones you don't like?
Re: Talking Point: Does Microsoft Have A '30FPS' Problem With Its Xbox Series X|S Output?
Yes is a problem caused by the Series S imo, the system was a mistake unfortunately βΉοΈ Phil took a gamble trying to undercut Sony but it didn't pay off as the gap between PS5 and X/S is bigger than the gap of PS4 and Xbone.
Now we are stuck with a console that's holding back the generation for Xbox and we don't even get the higher sales from it. Yes the system itself is great but the Series X should be destroying the PS5 with raw power but it can't because of the little brother.
Bet we don't see Xbox do this again next gen. We'll get two console with same specs π€
Re: Obsidian Confirms That Avowed Runs At 30FPS On Xbox Series X|S
@eduscxbox "People complain for the sake of it."
No this is something legitimate to complain about, I'm guessing the PC version doesn't have this 30fps is good enough disclaimer! I'll put it this way, if the Series S didn't exist all these games would be 60fps out the box π
Re: Obsidian Confirms That Avowed Runs At 30FPS On Xbox Series X|S
"they believe that since the game is a first person single player game you don't need a 60fps mode."
That's the worst justification by far and it's not even close π
I can't believe a human said that, so following this though no single player game really needs 60fps! So all the Souls games would be best in 30fps!! The person that said that should come out and apologize for treating us like idiots.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Comments On Indiana Jones PS5, And Microsoft's Plan Moving Forward
@Banjo- All these decisions won't really effect the most hardcore but Microsoft can really run a business counting on just fanboys sticking with the brand.
If you're someone like me who always buys all the consoles I see no reason to buy the next Xbox. Having a PS6 and Switch 2 is a safe bet for playing everything next gen.
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Hits Xbox This December, And A PS5 Port Is Officially Coming
@IronMan30 Is how Microsoft rolls apparently, give competing platforms everything and receive nothing in return! I still laugh at the historic Microsoft and Nintendo partnership where they get absolutely nothing π€¦
Re: Borderlands Described As 'Worst Movie Of The Year' By Harshest Critics
So then it's a perfect 1-1 representation of the games, Borderlands fans rejoice π
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 The Next Victim Of A Ridiculous Update Size On Xbox
So one update is bigger than two current gen games put together? No that's unacceptable they have to get together with Microsoft and fix it, if there's no fix then I would just delete the game and forget it ever existed.
Re: Talking Point: Two Months On, Did Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Live Up To The Hype?
Is just as boring as the first one if not more, easily my most disliked game of the year. Hopefully the series ended with part 2 and NT can go back to making fun games again like DmC & Enslaved!
Re: Random: Xbox Fan Accidentally Misses Out On Custom Prize Worth Over $600
That's messed up he must feel like ***** π even if he wasn't going to keep it he could have gotten a good chunk of money for it, specifically more if he held it for a couple of years.
Re: Digital Foundry Explores Why Some Games 'Run Better' On PS5 Than Xbox Series X
@HonestHick "So how about all the games that do run better on series X over PS5. Seems like that is rarely mentioned online"
Every single game should be running better on the X as it has the most power (current most powerful console in the world!), why would it be a story that a game runs better on it? Will you consider it a story when PS5 pro games run better than Series X games?
Re: Hellblade 2 Apparently Failed To Crack Top 100 Game Sales In Europe Last Month
@BacklogBrad "The "wouldnt fly on playstation" is also funny since they money hatted the first one"
I meant by that comment is that even if it was ported to PlayStation tomorrow it still wouldn't sell despite the fan base liking these movie type games. Hellblade 2 appeals to such a small audience despite costing similar to any AAA game! hopefully this is the end of that series and NT can make fun games again like DmCπ€
Re: Hellblade 2 Apparently Failed To Crack Top 100 Game Sales In Europe Last Month
I don't play games to bore myself or to know what it feels like to have mental health π this game wouldn't fly on PlayStation let alone Xbox where it's users are known to prefer FPS and fast action games.
Re: Another Rare Classic Is Now Available On Nintendo's Switch Online Service
That's great news so that means Nintendo will return the favor by giving Xbox Diddy Kong racing, Star Fox Adventures, Donkey Kong 64 and the Donkey Kong country series!! No? Oh okay nevermind I thought Rare had made those for a second π
Re: Xbox Set To Miss Out On Marvel Vs. Capcom Fighting Collection
It's weird for Capcom of all people who have always supported Xbox, it can't just be low sales cause even if it is how much effort would it be to port the PS4 version to Xbone?
Re: Hands On: Black Myth: Wukong Is A Transformative Action RPG
@Chaotic_Goat it definitely sounds sketchy, we know some Chinese companies use smoke & mirrors tactics for their games. I would wait till it's reviewed by every single publication before even considering purchasing.
Re: Hands On: Black Myth: Wukong Is A Transformative Action RPG
So Craig Reid was playing the same Xbox version that's being delayed? Well did you see anything that warrants it being delayed?
Re: Sea Of Thieves Was The Best-Selling PS5 Game In Both The US & Europe Last Month
"it's still fantastic to see"
You sure? this just signals to Phil to open the flood gates faster and more wider for every single game with a Xbox logo to go to PlayStation which would then result in Xbox going third party π
Re: Starfield Is Getting Review Bombed (Again)
@RetroMan71 "A certain entitled, generation of them are π"
Pretty sure in the 80s & 90s we didn't have this extreme publisher greed of mtx, battle passes, season passes and every little thing section off and sold back to us. Everything was unlocked in the full game so there was no need to cry and act entitled π
Re: Co-Op Bug FPS Starship Troopers: Extermination Drops On Xbox This October
This can be a nice alternative to HD2 for those that only game on Xbox, would have to see some reviews before I would consider it.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Suffers Delay, But Only For Xbox Series X|S
@themightyant "With no further information too many people are very quick to ASSUME itβs due to Xbox Series S"
Because we're basing it on previous situations (from this year!) and comments made by many developers from various studios. Is it possible it's because they want to prioritise PS5? yes! But are we really beyond the pale for suggesting it might be because of the series S again?
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Suffers Delay, But Only For Xbox Series X|S
Series S stikes again! Unfortunately is going to be more common as games become for advanced. Hopefully Microsoft learned it's lesson and next gen they will have two systems with equal power.
Re: Xbox Series S Under Fire As Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 Tech Specs Revealed
So the game currently runs at a maximum of 4K 30fps on the X/PS5 so if they had done double the map would it be have been 4K 15fps or perhaps 480p 30? It just seems they aren't as talented as they think they are π
Re: Hellblade 2's First Xbox Update Now Available, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@BAMozzy I understood perfectly what was the developers intent as it's a direct continuation of her mental health in the first game and I will fight for their right to tell their story, obviously it wasn't going to be for everyone.
All that said it doesn't make the game any less boring for me knowing all of that π I honestly would have prefer it in a movie format but I'm glad there are some people finding joy in it.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From May 2024's State Of Play Event
@Gamer_X "PlayStation nowadays is more like multiplatform station"
If that's what you think of PlayStation I hate to see what you think of Xbox π
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Reviews Are Saying About Killer Klowns From Outer Space: The Game
Hope this ends the Asymmetrical multiplayer garbage train, embarrassing that it's the only genre these studios are able to do with famous horror ips.
Re: Talking Point: If Halo Infinite Is Finished, Where Should The Franchise Go From Here?
It needs to be rebooted from scratch by a new studio! Microsoft has more fps studios than anyone else so they surely could give the task to someone else. Could be id, Raven or even swapping in Treyarch to Halo and 343 to COD.
Re: DOOM: The Dark Ages To Be Announced At Xbox's Showcase, Claims New 'Exclusive'
@awp69 "Hey, Iβll be happy enough to play this on GamePass while PlayStation folks fork out $70 at release"
And that's the problem Microsoft has created for itself, they have trained Xbox owners that you must not pay for games and must wait to get them for free. Why would Sony port Helldivers 2 to Xbox when people are going to be asking for it to be free π
Re: Xbox Series S Seems To Do A Great Job At Handling Ninja Theory's Hellblade 2
@OldGamer999 "Yeah right. Low resolution, 30fps and black bars top and bottom."
It really is sad all those cut corners, can't believe we got a spiritual successor to The order 1886. I could have forgiven all those if it had great fun gameplay, unfortunately no is a snoozefest more so than the first one. If they wanted to make a movie they should have just made it, I will pray for the return of DmC Ninja Theory π€
Re: Skull And Bones Season 2 & Free Trial Announced As Player Numbers Dwindle On Xbox
Ah yes another free trial aka we want to boast later about how many new players we have and are playing our already dead AAAA game.
Re: After Hellblade 2, Here Are The 10 Highest-Rated Xbox Games Of 2024 So Far
I'll easily play the first 9 on repeat over playing Hellblade 2. I have to reiterate that if you didn't like the first one you definitely won't like 2, don't make the same mistake I made in thinking otherwise. Well at least I take comfort in that NT is making another game and it probably will be a new ip or perhaps returning to Enslaved?
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of The Graphics In Hellblade 2 For Xbox Series X|S?
@BearFut_1800 "It still has the same dull puzzles, mediocre combat and painfully slow pacing. Itβs probably a good thing itβs so short"
It was what I was dreading, I would have prefer a ugly game but be fun to play in the vein of what Nintendo makes. This obviously applies to some of Sony's titles along with many third party studios, they prioritize graphics over actually making something that's fun for the player.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About Xbox's Hellblade 2
Seeing the reviews it seems like they put all their skill points on graphics and sound and everything else was an after thought. It's the opposite approach from Nintendo where they make sure the game is as fun as possible and graphics take a back seat.
Re: Review: Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 (Xbox): An Incredible Spectacle That Lacks An Essential Hook
"It looks like a very moody and important movie"
If there's anything I know about us Xbox players is that we loveee our movie games π
This game honestly feels like it's releasing to the wrong audience, I will still try it on GP but there's no way I would have paid money for it. I hope after this NT goes back to their fast pace DmC & Enslaved dQays cause I'm personally done with these two over "emotional" games.
Re: Pick One: Which Is Your Favourite Ninja Theory Game On Xbox?
My favorite was Heavenly Sword but Enslaved and DmC are right there, I actually like all their games except Hellblade π I will give Hellblade 2 a chance though, I just hope they at least give us a jog/run button this time cause It got so annoying slowly walking everywhere.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Will See 'Changes' When Call Of Duty Arrives, Rumours Suggest
Obviously this is all rumors but if true I will be pissed off, you're making me pay more because of a game and franchise many of us don't care about π
Re: Talking Point: What Convinced You To Pick Xbox In The First Place?
I bought Xbox for Halo 1 which supplemented my PS2 and I have continued to buy both Sony's and Microsoft's consoles to this day. This is why it upsets me seeing the Xbox brand basically crumbling, much of it is from self inflicted wounds. PlayStation is best when Xbox is at it's best, I don't count Nintendo as they live in their own world.
Re: Talking Point: Rockstar Fans, How Hyped Are You For GTA 6?
@JokerBoy422 "Now that leaks got out the other day confirming this game will be a woke masterpiece."
Any chance your comment was satire on some of today's youth and how they talk? Say Karen if the answer is yes π
Re: Report: Call Of Duty 2024 Will Launch Day One On Xbox Game Pass
I personally would have put it on GP 6 months after release, Microsoft is leaving allot of money on the table but I get it they can't just dismantle the roadmap for GP after all these years.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Planning To Bring More Games To PS5, Despite Some 'Unease' At Microsoft
It's pretty obvious Satya Nadella and Amy Hood have taken the wheel, Phil Spencer and the rest of the people at Xbox have no say in the matter they probably were ordered to just stay home π
The blank checks days are over and Satya will get Xbox profits at any cost. Some Xbox fans will try to look at the positives but I don't see any, the suits have full control of Xbox and if they have to turn Xbox into Sega they will.
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Limited Run Physical Release Is Still Happening
If I didn't already play it on GP I definitely wouldn't buy it now as I know that not even a single penny will go to the developers that made such a classic π
Re: Poll: As Hellblade 2 Draws Near, What Do You Think Of The First Game?
One of the most boring games I've ever played! slowly walking everywhere with mediocre combat and a irritating voice that couldn't shut up, their previous game was DmC which was fast and exciting so they just did the opposite of that for Hellblade!
Re: Xbox President Says xCloud Is Enjoying 'Tremendous Growth' Right Now
Have pretty much Nasa level internet and found it terribly laggy with artifacts up the yahoo, also tried playing PS3 games from my PS5 with their service and is equally horrible. If gaming turns into just streaming I'm going to have to find a new hobby maybe collecting coins or something.
Re: Xbox's Sea Of Thieves Plunders PS5 Charts, Becoming Europe's Best-Selling Game In April
@Ricky-Spanish Only rabid PlayStation fanboys said that just like only Xbox fanboys said PlayStation has no games just interactive movies. Long story short don't be a fanboy for a multi billion or Trillion dollar company that wouldn't even use your face as a door mat π€·
Re: Xbox's New 'This Is Halo' Trailer Summarises 343's Journey With Halo Infinite
That's nice and all but Halo needs new blood, we need some new cooks in the kitchen asap! I would have id software or Raven make the next Halo game, heck I would even put 343 on COD and have Treyarch make Halo.
Re: Xbox Is Reportedly 'Considering' Hellblade 2 For PlayStation 5
Might as well at this point, is not like Hellblade 2 is going to make people run out and subscribe. Is a movie type game, not exactly the genre Xbox fans are known to love π€·
Re: Former Microsoft Exec Gives 'Two Reasons' Why Xbox Closed Bethesda Teams
I love GP but if the result of me enjoying it is studios being close that would make content for it then I'm fine just doing away with it or at least not putting AAA exclusives on day one. For COD I would put all the games on GP except for the current years iteration, give it a year to get sales before adding it to the service.
Re: Xbox Apparently Still Needs Smaller Games For 'Prestige And Awards'
Lol poor guy must be getting Alzheimer's early πis that or he has no idea what games these 4 studios made or any Xbox Studio really