The PS5 is the worst PlayStation generation in my opinion. Unimpressive and overpriced hardware/accessories, terrible first party support and a very poor subscription service.
PS3 was the best console from Sony. Mainly because they were forced to do better. The Xbox 360 and Wii were dominating and they actually had to try.
I don't quite understand how they are tracking physical copies. Are they giving codes if you still have it installed? Because if not, how do they know if you still have the disc? Either way it's confusing.
Now that I think about it, Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge on Wii U before it released on 360/PS3. So therefore, that's a first party Nintendo game right? Right??
@trev666 I got into a debate on Push Square saying the same thing. Sony have tried to redefine the meaning of first party because it suits their absolutely barren release schedule to throw a couple of external games in the mix.
I use Game Pass as a try before you buy service. There are so many games I've bought purely because I tried it on Game Pass and liked it. I don't think I've ever loved a game on Game Pass and not bought it.
On the other hand, I cancelled my PS+ subscription over a year ago because there was never any games that interested me that I didn't already own. It was a complete waste of time and money for me.
I've said it before and I still believe that the next generation of consoles will be the last from both Sony and Microsoft. There won't be a PS7 or Xbox whatever in my opinion because there won't be a need.
Bespoke hardware costs billions of £+$ to develop, build and ship.
I can see a future where we all have a disguised PC in a box under our TVs that allows us to access each individual store front to buy, stream or subscribe to.
If this happens, Microsoft's strategy makes perfect sense. They are already building loyalty from PlayStation only gamers by porting their games to PS5 and those players will have no other option but to buy or subscribe directly from the Xbox store when PlayStation hardware is obsolete.
@themightyant Yeah, because shareholders are famous for saying "that's enough money thanks". Sony are already licensing out their IP to other companies and releasing games for other systems. They are already a third party publisher and will continue to release more and more games on other platforms.
I'm going 100% digital for next gen. Not because I believe it's better but because I don't have the space anymore.
I have hundreds of discs and cartridges across multiple systems I've owned over the last 40 years and can't deal with any more or I may be facing divorce.
I think it's really important to see a disc option for those who want it though.
I keep all of my consoles so any disc only games I'll play on my original Xbox, 360, One X or Series X.
@LogicStrikesAgain I'm not even talking about streaming. Companies will only get away with streaming only if consumers allow them to.
PS6 and Xbox Prime will be digital focussed consoles (with optional disc drives) and after that I still think we'll have the option to "buy" games digitally.
@Fiendish-Beaver Absolutely there will be a PS6 and Xbox Prime. I really don't see why anyone would want to make a bespoke piece of hardware after that.
Let's say that the PS6 releases in 2027. Given the 7 year time on the market for the PS5, that would mean potential launch of 2034 for the PS7. By that time I believe that neither Sony or Microsoft will want to spend the billions of dollars it takes to create bespoke hardware.
This next Xbox is the first step towards that goal as it will unify platforms and store fronts into one easily accessible ecosystem.
I would just love to have a world where I can have a console-like experience from a box under my TV that can access all stores and allow me to buy what I want.
I think this will be the future of gaming whether Sony likes it or not and this is the first step towards that.
Selling bespoke console hardware will be an irrelevant business after next gen.
I have been saying here, and elsewhere, that the next generation of Xbox will be a disguised PC in a box and that Asus would be the first partner with hardware.
I'll be glad if there's one more "traditional" Xbox console and a PS6. Then I can retire from modern gaming and focus entirely on my back catalogue of retro games and systems. My Sega Saturn and Dreamcast don't get nearly the attention they deserve.
@Fiendish-Beaver Because Sony insists on things being on separate discs. Any Xbox disc you ever buy is basically a digital key. PlayStation games are pretty much all there on the Blu-ray you paid for.
@Fiendish-Beaver Smart Delivery means whatever Xbox you put the disc into, it will install that version of the game. I think the game case says both Xbox One and Xbox Series X. I'm so glad this is getting a physical release btw.
I'm a huge fan of VR and have been since I got my PSVR1. For me there have been plenty of killer apps. Astro Bot, Until Dawn: Rush of Blood, Beat Saber, Blood and Truth, Wipeout Omega Collection, Batman: Arkham Shadow, Walking Dead Saints and Sinners 1&2, Pistol Whip, Half-Life Alyx, Behemoth, Asgard's Wrath 2.
@GoldenPants I also think the next gen of consoles will be the last. Microsoft has already promised another console and I'm sure Sony is planning for a PS6 but, after that I just can't see the need.
I do think we'll have disguised PCs in a set top box that will be able access the Xbox Store, PS Store etc. but these will most likely be made by traditional PC manufacturers.
Selling lots of consoles isn't the future of the industry and Microsoft know it. They are planning for a future without consoles where they are the biggest developer and publisher in the industry.
Eventually, all of those PlayStation and Nintendo players will have to buy directly from Microsoft or subscribe directly from Microsoft to access Xbox games.
Releasing them on other platforms now is a huge, money spinning Trojan Horse to retain those players in the future.
@LogicStrikesAgain What did my original point say? It mentioned 2 games that I think will demonstrate scores will go higher when they release on PlayStation. Do you agree?
What about that do you disagree with? That is an example of Xbox tax.
You are the one who brought a ton of other games into the conversation. Concord in particular.
It's okay to only want to play games on PlayStation. But trying to start a boring console war is just stupid.
@LogicStrikesAgain I like the way you have clearly missed the point I was making (or have chosen to ignore it).
Are you actually kidding? I hope this is parody because you brought Concord into the conversation.
The ratings for Starfield and Indiana Jones will spike when they release on PlayStation. I'm glad you refused to mention those, even though I mentioned them specifically.
Concord is the biggest £400 million Sony have ever spunked into a wall. Nobody wanted it. Nobody liked it. Nobody bought it. Nobody played it.
Redfall is an absolute success and best game ever made compared to Concord! 😂
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Re: Poll: When Do You Think Xbox's Next-Gen Console Is Coming Out?
Tuesday. Guaranteed. My Mum used to go to karate with Sarah Bond.
Re: PS5 Execs Questioned About Xbox 'Moving Away From Console' In Official Sony Interview
The PS5 is the worst PlayStation generation in my opinion. Unimpressive and overpriced hardware/accessories, terrible first party support and a very poor subscription service.
PS3 was the best console from Sony. Mainly because they were forced to do better. The Xbox 360 and Wii were dominating and they actually had to try.
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
@acmiguens I'll let you know if we receive any loyalty cheques. 😂
Re: Xbox Has Started Giving Out Free Gears Of War: Reloaded Codes To 'Ultimate Edition' Owners
@Elbow Thanks buddy. That makes sense. 👍
Re: Switch 2 'Closer To Xbox Series S' Than Last-Gen Consoles, Says Ninja Gaiden Dev
I'm really hoping that Xbox releases the MCC on Switch 2. Playing those games natively in handheld would be incredible.
Re: Xbox Has Started Giving Out Free Gears Of War: Reloaded Codes To 'Ultimate Edition' Owners
I don't quite understand how they are tracking physical copies. Are they giving codes if you still have it installed? Because if not, how do they know if you still have the disc? Either way it's confusing.
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
Now that I think about it, Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge on Wii U before it released on 360/PS3. So therefore, that's a first party Nintendo game right? Right??
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
@trev666 I got into a debate on Push Square saying the same thing. Sony have tried to redefine the meaning of first party because it suits their absolutely barren release schedule to throw a couple of external games in the mix.
Re: Xbox Has Started Giving Out Free Gears Of War: Reloaded Codes To 'Ultimate Edition' Owners
I got mine this morning! 🙂
Re: Xbox Dominates PS5 Charts, Forza Horizon 5 'Most Downloaded' Game In May
@Millionski @ChrisDeku Don't forget Concord. 😉
Re: A Year Since Leaving Xbox, Tango Gameworks Announces The Start Of A 'New Era'
How on Earth is that over a year ago? 😧
Re: Sony Has Approached Subscriptions 'Healthier' Than Xbox, Says Former PlayStation Boss
I use Game Pass as a try before you buy service. There are so many games I've bought purely because I tried it on Game Pass and liked it. I don't think I've ever loved a game on Game Pass and not bought it.
On the other hand, I cancelled my PS+ subscription over a year ago because there was never any games that interested me that I didn't already own. It was a complete waste of time and money for me.
Re: Xbox Has Reportedly 'Sidelined' Plans For A 2027 First-Party Handheld
This has me believing that we may never see another Xbox at all.
Re: Xbox Insiders Can Now Remove Tiles On The Dashboard, And It Looks Weird
I really like the current layout. I have no issue whatsoever with the advert tiles or current space.
Re: 'Huge' Number Of People Cancelling DOOM Pre-Orders Over 'Botched Physical Release'
Don't release a disc if there's virtually nothing on the disc. It's that simple.
Re: Lots Of Xbox Games Have Suddenly Been Delisted In Some Countries
@Brigurugi Microsoft have done far more to preserve games than Sony or Nintendo combined.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About Linear Vs. Open World Games On Xbox?
From a personal point of view, I have less time to spend gaming these days so I prefer linear games more and more.
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Third-Party Strategy Is Finally Making Sense To Me
I've said it before and I still believe that the next generation of consoles will be the last from both Sony and Microsoft. There won't be a PS7 or Xbox whatever in my opinion because there won't be a need.
Bespoke hardware costs billions of £+$ to develop, build and ship.
I can see a future where we all have a disguised PC in a box under our TVs that allows us to access each individual store front to buy, stream or subscribe to.
If this happens, Microsoft's strategy makes perfect sense. They are already building loyalty from PlayStation only gamers by porting their games to PS5 and those players will have no other option but to buy or subscribe directly from the Xbox store when PlayStation hardware is obsolete.
Re: Xbox Spring Sale 2025 Now Live In Full, 1000+ Games Discounted
I've never owned the Middle Earth Shadow games before. £5.99 for both is a great deal.
Re: Xbox Provides First Look At 11 Minutes Of The Outer Worlds 2 Gameplay
So is IGN getting exclusive access to Xbox games? 😂
But they hate Xbox!
Re: Nightdive Studios Wants To Bring Xbox 360 Games Back From The Dead
Quake 4, Buffy 1&2, Wet, Ninja Blade.
Re: New Death Stranding Record Hints At Potential Of PS5 Ports On Xbox
@themightyant Yeah, because shareholders are famous for saying "that's enough money thanks". Sony are already licensing out their IP to other companies and releasing games for other systems. They are already a third party publisher and will continue to release more and more games on other platforms.
Re: Talking Point: Will Any Next-Gen Xbox Have A Disc Drive?
I'm going 100% digital for next gen. Not because I believe it's better but because I don't have the space anymore.
I have hundreds of discs and cartridges across multiple systems I've owned over the last 40 years and can't deal with any more or I may be facing divorce.
I think it's really important to see a disc option for those who want it though.
I keep all of my consoles so any disc only games I'll play on my original Xbox, 360, One X or Series X.
Re: Talking Point: Could Sony 'Block' PlayStation Games On An Xbox Handheld?
@LogicStrikesAgain I'm not even talking about streaming. Companies will only get away with streaming only if consumers allow them to.
PS6 and Xbox Prime will be digital focussed consoles (with optional disc drives) and after that I still think we'll have the option to "buy" games digitally.
Re: Talking Point: Could Sony 'Block' PlayStation Games On An Xbox Handheld?
@Fiendish-Beaver Absolutely there will be a PS6 and Xbox Prime. I really don't see why anyone would want to make a bespoke piece of hardware after that.
Let's say that the PS6 releases in 2027. Given the 7 year time on the market for the PS5, that would mean potential launch of 2034 for the PS7. By that time I believe that neither Sony or Microsoft will want to spend the billions of dollars it takes to create bespoke hardware.
This next Xbox is the first step towards that goal as it will unify platforms and store fronts into one easily accessible ecosystem.
Re: Talking Point: Could Sony 'Block' PlayStation Games On An Xbox Handheld?
I would just love to have a world where I can have a console-like experience from a box under my TV that can access all stores and allow me to buy what I want.
I think this will be the future of gaming whether Sony likes it or not and this is the first step towards that.
Selling bespoke console hardware will be an irrelevant business after next gen.
Re: Talking Point: Could Sony 'Block' PlayStation Games On An Xbox Handheld?
I can't see how Sony could do this without breaching their agreement with Valve.
I'm sure that Microsoft have studied the contract in place to make sure that PlayStation games will be part of the deal by default.
Re: Talking Point: Which Steam Games Would You Want To Play On An Xbox Console?
@LogicStrikesAgain I'm sure they'd try to do something but it's difficult to see what that would be if the games are available on Steam.
Re: Talking Point: Which Steam Games Would You Want To Play On An Xbox Console?
@Dalamar73 I'm sure they would. However, I also believe that there will be a PS6 and next Xbox and then that will be it for bespoke home consoles.
We will have the equivalent of what Microsoft are doing with the next Xbox - a user friendly PC in a console shell under your TV.
Once that happens, all store fronts will be available to buy and download from. This final Xbox is just a bridge to that future.
Re: Talking Point: Which Steam Games Would You Want To Play On An Xbox Console?
@LogicStrikesAgain I mean, you'll be able to play key PlayStation games without buying a PlayStation.
It's also another step towards a hardware agnostic future. Which is where, I believe, the industry needs to head.
Re: Talking Point: Will The New '2027' Xbox Console Have Steam Support?
@RiverGenie I really want it to have a built-in air fryer now. ☹️
Re: Report: Xbox Handheld For 2025 Being Made By ASUS, Will Feature Console-Like Interface
I have been saying here, and elsewhere, that the next generation of Xbox will be a disguised PC in a box and that Asus would be the first partner with hardware.
But nobody listens to me. ☹️
Re: Xbox Login Raises Concerns About Preservation Of Forza Horizon 5 On PlayStation
If you had bought any of those games you would still have access to them though.
Re: Xbox Login Raises Concerns About Preservation Of Forza Horizon 5 On PlayStation
@shoeses What games are you talking about?
Re: Former Xbox Exec Compares 360 Era To Microsoft's Current Multiplatform Strategy
I'll be glad if there's one more "traditional" Xbox console and a PS6. Then I can retire from modern gaming and focus entirely on my back catalogue of retro games and systems. My Sega Saturn and Dreamcast don't get nearly the attention they deserve.
Re: 'Terminator 2D: No Fate' Announced For Xbox, And It's Out This September
@Fiendish-Beaver Because Sony insists on things being on separate discs. Any Xbox disc you ever buy is basically a digital key. PlayStation games are pretty much all there on the Blu-ray you paid for.
Re: 'Terminator 2D: No Fate' Announced For Xbox, And It's Out This September
@Fiendish-Beaver Smart Delivery means whatever Xbox you put the disc into, it will install that version of the game. I think the game case says both Xbox One and Xbox Series X. I'm so glad this is getting a physical release btw.
Re: Xbox Co-Creator Calls VR 'Disappointing' As Sony Slashes Price Of PSVR2
I'm a huge fan of VR and have been since I got my PSVR1. For me there have been plenty of killer apps. Astro Bot, Until Dawn: Rush of Blood, Beat Saber, Blood and Truth, Wipeout Omega Collection, Batman: Arkham Shadow, Walking Dead Saints and Sinners 1&2, Pistol Whip, Half-Life Alyx, Behemoth, Asgard's Wrath 2.
I'm forgetting a load more but you get the drift.
Re: How Microsoft Managed Xbox Brand 'Is Not My F**king Fault', Says OG Xbox Creator
@GoldenPants I also think the next gen of consoles will be the last. Microsoft has already promised another console and I'm sure Sony is planning for a PS6 but, after that I just can't see the need.
I do think we'll have disguised PCs in a set top box that will be able access the Xbox Store, PS Store etc. but these will most likely be made by traditional PC manufacturers.
Re: How Microsoft Managed Xbox Brand 'Is Not My F**king Fault', Says OG Xbox Creator
@dodgykebaab ABK is part of Xbox and you need to move on. Of course those figures are included because they are part of the same company.
Do you strip away all of the sales figures for every studio Sony has bought over the years? No.
Re: How Microsoft Managed Xbox Brand 'Is Not My F**king Fault', Says OG Xbox Creator
Selling lots of consoles isn't the future of the industry and Microsoft know it. They are planning for a future without consoles where they are the biggest developer and publisher in the industry.
Eventually, all of those PlayStation and Nintendo players will have to buy directly from Microsoft or subscribe directly from Microsoft to access Xbox games.
Releasing them on other platforms now is a huge, money spinning Trojan Horse to retain those players in the future.
Re: Poll: Xbox Fans, What Review Score Would You Give Avowed So Far?
Whoever voted "1/10 Abysmal" really needs to grow up.
Re: Xbox Is 'Exploring' AI To Make Its Older Games Playable On Modern Hardware
@Utena-mobile But it's better than any solution Nintendo or Sony have come up with so far.
Re: Xbox Reporter Says Series X|S Successor Has Been 'Fully Approved' By Microsoft
DLC that wasn't available on Wii U. 48 new courses.
Re: Xbox Reporter Says Series X|S Successor Has Been 'Fully Approved' By Microsoft
@Jenkinss To be fair, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe did double the number of tracks and added a huge amount of new racers.
Re: Xbox Reporter Says Series X|S Successor Has Been 'Fully Approved' By Microsoft
I'm happy that Xbox definitely will be making another console. That and PS6 will probably be the last consoles I buy.
Re: Review: Avowed (Xbox) - Flashy Action & Excellent Exploration Make Up For A Surprisingly Breezy Narrative
@LogicStrikesAgain What did my original point say? It mentioned 2 games that I think will demonstrate scores will go higher when they release on PlayStation. Do you agree?
What about that do you disagree with? That is an example of Xbox tax.
You are the one who brought a ton of other games into the conversation. Concord in particular.
It's okay to only want to play games on PlayStation. But trying to start a boring console war is just stupid.
Re: Review: Avowed (Xbox) - Flashy Action & Excellent Exploration Make Up For A Surprisingly Breezy Narrative
@LogicStrikesAgain I like the way you have clearly missed the point I was making (or have chosen to ignore it).
Are you actually kidding? I hope this is parody because you brought Concord into the conversation.
The ratings for Starfield and Indiana Jones will spike when they release on PlayStation. I'm glad you refused to mention those, even though I mentioned them specifically.
Concord is the biggest £400 million Sony have ever spunked into a wall. Nobody wanted it. Nobody liked it. Nobody bought it. Nobody played it.
Redfall is an absolute success and best game ever made compared to Concord! 😂
Re: Review: Avowed (Xbox) - Flashy Action & Excellent Exploration Make Up For A Surprisingly Breezy Narrative
For those claiming "Xbox tax" isn't real, just watch the Starfield and Indiana Jones soar when they're on PlayStation.
Re: Avowed Review Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think So Far
@Ralizah Sony don't develop games. The studios they bought develop games.