I'm 100 percent interested in these remakes. Loved the originals. I think Max Payne is the only OG Xbox backwards compatible game I ever played on back on Xbox one. I also played it on the OG itself way back when. So two playthroughs , fantastic game.
@Kraven I liked the game Weird West. I think it came out around the same time as Evil West causing some confusion. Weird West is great if you never played it. Hopefully I make it to Evil West at some point. Heard almost only good things.
@GuyinPA75 it all depends on the developers situation. If you were a developer whose going to make a game that you believe will sell like crazy, think GTA6 . It would make no sense to put it on game pass. But if you are a developer who isn't sure if their game will sell great or not, then GP giving you a guaranteed check your happy with makes all the sense in the world. Here's 10 million bucks and not a single person plays the game, but oh well I made 10 million, in good kind of thing.
So I think it's situational. Me personally I love game pass as a consumer , amazing deal. But I almost never buy games anymore , which I do imagine hurts developers. but I also think the industry is just changing. The old model of huge game sales may be on the way out. Just like movies, shows , go to Netflix, DVDs are dead etc. times are in big change for gaming.
My personal stance is I just have to get the entertainment and enjoyment out of it that I get. I can't worry too much about financials and industry. It's interesting to me, yes. But I can't really be out here trying to save game companies and stuff.
@RentedPanda yea Dead Island 2 just dropped on GP. Hopefully I get to it at some point. I wonder how much us "GP only" guys hurts the business of gaming? Because tons of games and devs stuff must not be selling much at all because of people like us. It's not really our concern as a consumer, but just curious. I I'll keep subscribing to GP until the day they move on from it I imagine. It's just a fantastic deal and product.
Im a big Xbox fan but with GamePass, which I LOVE, I can't justify really buying a game anymore. Basically I only play what's on GamePass. I wonder how many do the same?
I'm about 70 hours in haven't finished the main quest. I play it almost everyday. I do really like the game but in some ways it's not the 9+ out of 10 game I wanted it to be. For me I'd give it an 8/10 . I think the combat is awkward and that's the part I wish was better.
@NarutosBiggestFan same , im NOT a fan of multiplayer games. I understand many are and that's why they make them. But I'm not. I can for sure get down with some multiplayer FPS, and some 1 on 1 fighters. But not something with character lore stories. Look at what they are doing with suicide squad??!? Terrible! Could have just made it single player like the Arkham games and would have been fire.
Still in a huge wu-tang fan and will play the game regardless. Just wishing it's more single player focused.
@NintendoByNature most people think Max Payne 2 was the best in series. Although i personally think 1 was. 3 was very mixed reviews, becuase it is so vastly different of a game than 1 and 2. I do like 3 though as well.
@GamingFan4Lyf oh okay yea I only use game pass on console and don't really know anything about the PC version. I guess I just assume it's damn near equal but I guess I makes sense some has things the other does not.
@GeeEssEff never heard of this game (i dont phone or pc game) but it seems like right up my alley. Also seems like a perfect game pass game. Obviously we can't get everything though. I'll probably pass because like you said seems expensive for this type of game and it's old....but I am interested
@Sol4ris I think the Series S is a fair scapegoat. Developers have admitted its caused delays with Xbox. Also Xbox last gen also had the smaller "install base", yet I don't remember games coming out earlier for ps4 than Xbox one. Besides timed exclusives of course. So I think it is in fact fair to preemptively blame series S.
Why do they make all these systems that you can't buy in stores and have to win? Sure it makes it more unique and winning would be dope....still make a cool system people can buy right? Or is it just me?
What's funny is like 3 days ago I started playing Quake on game pass. When it initially dropped for it some years back, I couldn't get down with he controls. They felt very " slippery" , still do but now I've found the hang of it and enjoying the game for sure. I'll have Quake 2 at the ready whenever I finish this one. Great!
Fantastic news to hear. Even though I have a ps5 so I was t really missing out on my beloved square games. Still though fantastic news. Hop3 many future games, and old ones from square will cross over.
Huge huge final fantasy fan here. Don't care one bit about MMO games though. So this specific game is not interesting to me at all. I like all the single player FF games. That being said, I think maybe just maybe this brings a greater chance that future FFgames , current and older ones that never came to xbox, now may. And that is HUGE to me!
I just started playing Gears Tactics this month and I'm really enjoying it. I always wanted to like strategy tactics type games, but I never get the hang of them. Gears though plays like a Tactics-lite , it's faster, more action, and really fun. For me anyways. If you like the super in depth slower tactics games, it may feel empty to you.
This stuff is protected normal , what do I know...but to me it reads mildy poorly. I don't think it's a good sign when a lead leaves before launch. Again I'm sure it happens but to me it's just another worry I have for xbox first party games in general and Storytelling.
@Tonmoy I've never owned the game. Played Online like 10 times just messing around when it was first on game pass. I am mildly interested checking out the main game now that it's back but, my back log is way too long. I doubt I'll ever get to it.
I hope and want to the deal to go through for xbox sake. Sony will be fine regardless. Xbox needs this in order to stay competitive. I really want the deal to happen. But I have my doubts. From the beginning it seemed like a slam dunk that it will go through easy. But so many months later, here we are. Even now this trail seems super in favor of xbox yet still....somehow the courts could still block it. I'm like 60/40 on it going through in my clueless head.
@stefan771 I understand that it seems an easier cheap way of developers making money from making old stuff again. However I actually love remakes of old games. Not sure your age, I'm old and the nostalgia you get from playing a remake/remaster of your youth is really cool.
I completely understand wanting new IPs and the arguments against remakes. I get it. I just personally really enjoy them . And I'm someone who loves trying new things. For me there's tons of new games and IPs I've never played so it's no shortage on that front.
@Lastatopiny most likely they are xbox fan boys. Sony is cbox number one competitor, so somewhat naturally a fan boy would dislike the things the competition does. Especially when thise things are keeping games from coming to xbox.
Me personally I have both ps5 and XSX. But I've had every xbox console and I use it more than my ps5. I'm an xbox fan for sure. I just don't get all crazy about brand loyalty. They are in it for money. We are in it for pleasure. We should try and get as much enjoyment as we can from both systems . Just my opinion.
@Lastatopiny the persons comment was, paraphrase....that he basically won't play any games that Sony timed exclusive. If Nintendo or Xbox does it he did not say wether he would play those or not. If they would play games that xbox times exclusive, that does NOT contradict thier point about Sony.
They simply don't like games that Sony Har timed exclusives for lol.
I've been holding out on Mass Effect remastered trilogy. I've never played the originals either. Well I tried Mass Effect 1 original and it was such a a drag yo get into, the control's, the graphics, a real let down from hype I heard. Hopefully the remaster fixed all this. I plan on diving in soon.
I'm scared when personal 5 royal will leave. I'll never finish it in time. I don't love the game, it's cool , but still want to see it through fully. I play it very slowly small bits at a time. I just feel like it will leave the service before I beat it.
From what I seen at the showcase. The minimum I think this game will be for me is a 9. I voted 10 because I think it will hit that. This I think will be xbox best effort at a firt party game. And I have so much doubt in them pulling thise off yet....with this one specific, all the hype, all I've seen....I think they finally for once hit an absolute home run. 10 out of 10 is what I see in the future. Guys let's really really hope this is the case!!!!!!
@themightyant I agree with just about everything you said. My point was just that many people I think do NOT agree with what you and Phil said. So I just thought it was less misunderstanding and more just disagreement. But yea fair play to you and detailed response. We are basically on the same page regardless. I think Starfield will be amazing by the way l.
@themightyant he was understood I feel like. Many people just disagree. Many actually believe putting out fantastic games will in fact make it possible for Xbox to becone the number one brand. I think many disagree with Phil, not misunderstand him.
I want this deal to fo through. As an Xbox fan I think Xbox needs it. Playstation will absolutely do more than survive even if this deal goes through. They will be fine. It will be great competition. This will benefit all gamers overall. Xbox has to have this deal get completed. I really want them to.
@FatalBubbles even though I liked the first hellblade...I'm not all that interested in 2. To me it was cool as a novelty interesting game. But if 2 us basically just more of the same, I'll pass.
I'm fine with the series X has it is. I don't like the .5, half upgraded, pro, systems in general. Xsx doesn't need it. If thye make a system after this generation years down the road, that's cool. But for now series X is all good.
I played the whole first game, enjoyed it. Not hyped for this one though. I don't know i guess it just felt like a food one time explaining for me. Not really longing for more of the same. What they've shown has not changed my mind either.
I've never played the original normal game. Becuase of how horrible and broke it was agmt initial release. Years later now it's all been fixed right. Should I give Cyberpunk a try and play it now if I never have?
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Re: Talking Point: Are You Excited For Remedy's Max Payne 1+2 Remake?
@Kieduss yes
Re: Talking Point: Are You Excited For Remedy's Max Payne 1+2 Remake?
@everynowandben I think very highly of them, you should enjoy it you liked all that.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Excited For Remedy's Max Payne 1+2 Remake?
I'm 100 percent interested in these remakes. Loved the originals. I think Max Payne is the only OG Xbox backwards compatible game I ever played on back on Xbox one. I also played it on the OG itself way back when. So two playthroughs , fantastic game.
Re: Evil West Is Shaping Up As Another Big Hit For Xbox Game Pass
@Kraven I liked the game Weird West. I think it came out around the same time as Evil West causing some confusion. Weird West is great if you never played it. Hopefully I make it to Evil West at some point. Heard almost only good things.
Re: NBA 2K24 Slam Dunks Its Way To Xbox Game Pass Next Week
I haven't played this game in over 10 years but I will try in once it arrives on Pass.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's SteamWorld Build 'Fell Short Of Expectations' For Publisher Thunderful
@GuyinPA75 it all depends on the developers situation. If you were a developer whose going to make a game that you believe will sell like crazy, think GTA6 . It would make no sense to put it on game pass. But if you are a developer who isn't sure if their game will sell great or not, then GP giving you a guaranteed check your happy with makes all the sense in the world. Here's 10 million bucks and not a single person plays the game, but oh well I made 10 million, in good kind of thing.
So I think it's situational. Me personally I love game pass as a consumer , amazing deal. But I almost never buy games anymore , which I do imagine hurts developers. but I also think the industry is just changing. The old model of huge game sales may be on the way out. Just like movies, shows , go to Netflix, DVDs are dead etc. times are in big change for gaming.
My personal stance is I just have to get the entertainment and enjoyment out of it that I get. I can't worry too much about financials and industry. It's interesting to me, yes. But I can't really be out here trying to save game companies and stuff.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's SteamWorld Build 'Fell Short Of Expectations' For Publisher Thunderful
@RentedPanda yea Dead Island 2 just dropped on GP. Hopefully I get to it at some point. I wonder how much us "GP only" guys hurts the business of gaming? Because tons of games and devs stuff must not be selling much at all because of people like us. It's not really our concern as a consumer, but just curious. I I'll keep subscribing to GP until the day they move on from it I imagine. It's just a fantastic deal and product.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's SteamWorld Build 'Fell Short Of Expectations' For Publisher Thunderful
Im a big Xbox fan but with GamePass, which I LOVE, I can't justify really buying a game anymore. Basically I only play what's on GamePass. I wonder how many do the same?
Re: Xbox Supposedly 'Very Surprised' At The Extent Of The Latest Rumours
@BacklogBrad you ended up being spot on with this.
Re: A New 'Steamboat Willie' Game Just Quietly Dropped On The Xbox Store
@Gonzo_Me I'm with you I actually would play this game. Probably won't pay the money but if it was on game pass, id play it.
Re: Poll: Four Months Later, Are You Still Playing Starfield?
I'm about 70 hours in haven't finished the main quest. I play it almost everyday. I do really like the game but in some ways it's not the 9+ out of 10 game I wanted it to be. For me I'd give it an 8/10 . I think the combat is awkward and that's the part I wish was better.
Re: Xbox's 'Wu-Tang Clan' Action-RPG Resurfaces After New Insider Report
@ironcrow86 really there was a wu-tang game before??!?!
Re: Xbox's 'Wu-Tang Clan' Action-RPG Resurfaces After New Insider Report
@NarutosBiggestFan same , im NOT a fan of multiplayer games. I understand many are and that's why they make them. But I'm not. I can for sure get down with some multiplayer FPS, and some 1 on 1 fighters. But not something with character lore stories. Look at what they are doing with suicide squad??!? Terrible! Could have just made it single player like the Arkham games and would have been fire.
Still in a huge wu-tang fan and will play the game regardless. Just wishing it's more single player focused.
Re: Firefight Makes An Absolutely Triumphant Return In Halo Infinite
I've been wanting to download halo infinite again for awhile and this is making me want to even more. Playing a lot of starfield right now though.
Re: Remedy 'Excited' About Max Payne 1 & 2 As Remakes Reach 'Production Readiness Stage'
@Fiendish-Beaver control and Max Payne were my favorite remedy games. Control 2 should be fire!
Re: Remedy 'Excited' About Max Payne 1 & 2 As Remakes Reach 'Production Readiness Stage'
@NintendoByNature most people think Max Payne 2 was the best in series. Although i personally think 1 was. 3 was very mixed reviews, becuase it is so vastly different of a game than 1 and 2. I do like 3 though as well.
Re: Remedy 'Excited' About Max Payne 1 & 2 As Remakes Reach 'Production Readiness Stage'
@HonestHick there's a zero percent chance, that I will miss these remakes!
Re: Square Enix Gives Hope To Xbox Fans With Short 'FF7 Rebirth' Exclusivity Window
Zero chance this game comes to Xbox. Would be a miracle if it happened. No way it happens.
Re: Xbox Boss Warns Of Potential Delays With ActiBlizz Titles On Game Pass
@GamingFan4Lyf oh okay yea I only use game pass on console and don't really know anything about the PC version. I guess I just assume it's damn near equal but I guess I makes sense some has things the other does not.
Re: Xbox Boss Warns Of Potential Delays With ActiBlizz Titles On Game Pass
@GamingFan4Lyf doom 2016 was on game pass before wasn't it? They took it off?
Re: Tower Defense Mega-Hit 'Bloons TD 6' Arrives On Xbox This September
@GeeEssEff never heard of this game (i dont phone or pc game) but it seems like right up my alley. Also seems like a perfect game pass game. Obviously we can't get everything though. I'll probably pass because like you said seems expensive for this type of game and it's old....but I am interested
Re: Upcoming Lord Of The Rings Game Delayed To 2024, But Only On Xbox
@Sol4ris I think the Series S is a fair scapegoat. Developers have admitted its caused delays with Xbox. Also Xbox last gen also had the smaller "install base", yet I don't remember games coming out earlier for ps4 than Xbox one. Besides timed exclusives of course. So I think it is in fact fair to preemptively blame series S.
Re: Microsoft Unveils Custom Armored Core 6 Xbox Series X Console
Why do they make all these systems that you can't buy in stores and have to win? Sure it makes it more unique and winning would be dope....still make a cool system people can buy right? Or is it just me?
Re: 'The Making Of Karateka' Brings Its Interactive Documentary To Xbox This August
Strange I don't even know what to say.
Re: Review: Quake 2 - A Beautiful Revamp Of iD Software's Seminal Shooter Blasts Its Way Onto Xbox Game Pass
What's funny is like 3 days ago I started playing Quake on game pass. When it initially dropped for it some years back, I couldn't get down with he controls. They felt very " slippery" , still do but now I've found the hang of it and enjoying the game for sure. I'll have Quake 2 at the ready whenever I finish this one. Great!
Re: Xbox & Square Enix Announce Plans To 'Partner Closely' On Future Games
Fantastic news to hear. Even though I have a ps5 so I was t really missing out on my beloved square games. Still though fantastic news. Hop3 many future games, and old ones from square will cross over.
Re: Square Enix CEO Thanks Phil Spencer For Making Final Fantasy 14 On Xbox A 'Reality'
Huge huge final fantasy fan here. Don't care one bit about MMO games though. So this specific game is not interesting to me at all. I like all the single player FF games. That being said, I think maybe just maybe this brings a greater chance that future FFgames , current and older ones that never came to xbox, now may. And that is HUGE to me!
Re: Talking Point: After Almost Four Years, We're Starting To Miss Gears
I just started playing Gears Tactics this month and I'm really enjoying it. I always wanted to like strategy tactics type games, but I never get the hang of them. Gears though plays like a Tactics-lite , it's faster, more action, and really fun. For me anyways. If you like the super in depth slower tactics games, it may feel empty to you.
Re: Fable's Narrative Lead Is Leaving The Project After 'Several Wonderful Years'
This stuff is protected normal , what do I know...but to me it reads mildy poorly. I don't think it's a good sign when a lead leaves before launch. Again I'm sure it happens but to me it's just another worry I have for xbox first party games in general and Storytelling.
Re: Blizzard President: We Have So Much Coming, We're Just Getting Started
@ParsnipHero this is an Xbox site...
Re: GTA 5 Returns To Xbox Game Pass, Including Next-Gen Upgrade
@Tonmoy I've never owned the game. Played Online like 10 times just messing around when it was first on game pass. I am mildly interested checking out the main game now that it's back but, my back log is way too long. I doubt I'll ever get to it.
Re: Activision Boss Admits He'll Have To 'Agree To Disagree' With Microsoft Over Xbox Game Pass
I hope and want to the deal to go through for xbox sake. Sony will be fine regardless. Xbox needs this in order to stay competitive. I really want the deal to happen. But I have my doubts. From the beginning it seemed like a slam dunk that it will go through easy. But so many months later, here we are. Even now this trail seems super in favor of xbox yet still....somehow the courts could still block it. I'm like 60/40 on it going through in my clueless head.
Re: Random: DOOM Composer Mick Gordon Wants A Remaster Of 'The Simpsons: Hit & Run'
@stefan771 I understand that it seems an easier cheap way of developers making money from making old stuff again. However I actually love remakes of old games. Not sure your age, I'm old and the nostalgia you get from playing a remake/remaster of your youth is really cool.
I completely understand wanting new IPs and the arguments against remakes. I get it. I just personally really enjoy them . And I'm someone who loves trying new things. For me there's tons of new games and IPs I've never played so it's no shortage on that front.
Re: SEGA Remains 'Very Close' With Xbox, But Isn't Open To Acquisition Talks Right Now
@Suda52 sarcasm or you really thought that?
Re: Hands On: Need For Speed Unbound Is A Next-Gen Return To Form For NFS
This gane just game to gamepass as of today. I've never played it and will be giving it a try.
Re: Former PlayStation Exclusive 'FIST: Forged In Shadow Torch' Hits Xbox Game Pass Next Week
@Lastatopiny most likely they are xbox fan boys. Sony is cbox number one competitor, so somewhat naturally a fan boy would dislike the things the competition does. Especially when thise things are keeping games from coming to xbox.
Me personally I have both ps5 and XSX. But I've had every xbox console and I use it more than my ps5. I'm an xbox fan for sure. I just don't get all crazy about brand loyalty. They are in it for money. We are in it for pleasure. We should try and get as much enjoyment as we can from both systems . Just my opinion.
Re: Former PlayStation Exclusive 'FIST: Forged In Shadow Torch' Hits Xbox Game Pass Next Week
@Lastatopiny the persons comment was, paraphrase....that he basically won't play any games that Sony timed exclusive. If Nintendo or Xbox does it he did not say wether he would play those or not. If they would play games that xbox times exclusive, that does NOT contradict thier point about Sony.
They simply don't like games that Sony Har timed exclusives for lol.
Re: Best RPGs on Xbox Game Pass
@Lucylu1983 very nice. I will definitely boot it up at some point.
Re: Best RPGs on Xbox Game Pass
I've been holding out on Mass Effect remastered trilogy. I've never played the originals either. Well I tried Mass Effect 1 original and it was such a a drag yo get into, the control's, the graphics, a real let down from hype I heard. Hopefully the remaster fixed all this. I plan on diving in soon.
Re: Another Six Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass Soon (June 30)
I'm scared when personal 5 royal will leave. I'll never finish it in time. I don't love the game, it's cool , but still want to see it through fully. I play it very slowly small bits at a time. I just feel like it will leave the service before I beat it.
Re: Poll: What Score Do You Think You'll Be Giving Starfield In September?
From what I seen at the showcase. The minimum I think this game will be for me is a 9. I voted 10 because I think it will hit that. This I think will be xbox best effort at a firt party game. And I have so much doubt in them pulling thise off yet....with this one specific, all the hype, all I've seen....I think they finally for once hit an absolute home run. 10 out of 10 is what I see in the future. Guys let's really really hope this is the case!!!!!!
Re: Xbox Boss Addresses His '11/10' Starfield Comment, Admits He 'Didn't Like' Part Of It
@themightyant I agree with just about everything you said. My point was just that many people I think do NOT agree with what you and Phil said. So I just thought it was less misunderstanding and more just disagreement. But yea fair play to you and detailed response. We are basically on the same page regardless. I think Starfield will be amazing by the way l.
Re: Xbox Boss Addresses His '11/10' Starfield Comment, Admits He 'Didn't Like' Part Of It
@themightyant he was understood I feel like. Many people just disagree. Many actually believe putting out fantastic games will in fact make it possible for Xbox to becone the number one brand. I think many disagree with Phil, not misunderstand him.
Re: id Software Apparently Helped Starfield's Team With Graphics
Starfield really seems like it will be amazing. I've been very shaky and doubtful of xbox exclusives but...I think Starfield will be a Smash hit.
The scope of it, the look of it, the ability to play at your pace and way you want. I'm damn near convinced it will be flat out awesome.
Re: Microsoft Is Still 'Very Committed' To The Activision Blizzard Acquisition
I want this deal to fo through. As an Xbox fan I think Xbox needs it. Playstation will absolutely do more than survive even if this deal goes through. They will be fine. It will be great competition. This will benefit all gamers overall. Xbox has to have this deal get completed. I really want them to.
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The 'Extended' Xbox Games Showcase 2023
@FatalBubbles even though I liked the first hellblade...I'm not all that interested in 2. To me it was cool as a novelty interesting game. But if 2 us basically just more of the same, I'll pass.
Re: The Xbox Series X Doesn't Need A Major Upgrade Right Now, Suggests Phil Spencer
I'm fine with the series X has it is. I don't like the .5, half upgraded, pro, systems in general. Xsx doesn't need it. If thye make a system after this generation years down the road, that's cool. But for now series X is all good.
Re: Xbox Studio inXile Is Upping The Ante With Steampunk RPG 'Clockwork Revolution'
This is one I want for sure.
Re: Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Gets Another Trailer At Xbox Showcase, Now Confirmed For 2024
I played the whole first game, enjoyed it. Not hyped for this one though. I don't know i guess it just felt like a food one time explaining for me. Not really longing for more of the same. What they've shown has not changed my mind either.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty Launches This September On Xbox Series X|S
I've never played the original normal game. Becuase of how horrible and broke it was agmt initial release. Years later now it's all been fixed right. Should I give Cyberpunk a try and play it now if I never have?