@Aniscape I know right? I think it's quite fitting too, given that Fable was an OG Xbox game as well. I cant wait. I cant believe how quick this year is flying by.
@HardRockGamer Predator would be amazing to be fair. That'd actually work better than Terminator. Man, I need to rewatch the Pred movies before I get into that new show.
@Markatron84 Took me a while to see that too when you pointed that out, but man, I wouldn't personally be doing a comparison like this if I was them :/
@Lup Lmao! I can totally relate to that. I don't even go to the gym, I tried those in-house HiiTs from YouTube. Never again O_o I was walking like John Wayne.
@Fiendish-Beaver Perhaps. That said, I think when MS have enough games under its belt to offer a sub service (Game Pass 1P) which is Game Pass but only with MS games, we might see it branch out to Ninty too.
@Kezelpaso Mate... Thanks! I've been looking at the truck, the buildings, the textures, and I thought I was going mad lol! I can see what you've pointed out now though, some shadows for the shrubs and a few extra conifers Now I truly feel like I'm living in the current gen!
@cragis0001 I agree. I think they're either looking at (or have found) a better way to make money moving to next gen, or at least have an idea of how to achieve financial success without being tethered to rules and boundaries that have been set in stone since the 90s.
@Fiendish-Beaver I'm sure there's a story in my head somewhere about Game Pass via a web surfer being blocked? Or was that related to the whole mobile market fiasco?
@Fiendish-Beaver You're right in regards to Sony having their hands tied. I'm not sure how much power they have in regards to other platforms. For instance, I'm not sure if they can say "we're releasing this on Steam, but these platforms with access to Steam are not allowed to buy it". I don't get the technical behind the veil, so to speak.
Will they cut off a platform that already has access though, whilst still releasing everywhere else? I aint so sure they would. It just wouldn't make much sense to me for them to do that, when the option is already there and the port process is suggested to be super easy work if the next Xbox has the ability to play PC games.
@Elbow That's why I'm getting confused then, because the host is the same. Thanks man. Yeah I loved that guy's energy. He was either severely jet lagged, or severely passionate lol.
@TrollOfWar You're a gem mate. Thanks! I might actually pick up MP3 today as that's the only one I never played (I can't remember why) and then work back to 2 then 1.
@cragis0001 No me either, but I do think next gen will be one that either moves a lot of the barriers, or removes some. I could be wrong but given all the changes in the industry we've seen as of late, I do think next gen will be very different to what came before.
@HardRockGamer I'm really looking forward to Isolation 2. They nailed the vibe with Isolation. That said, I'd absolutely welcome the same sort of vibe with, say, Terminator. Terminator Isolation (set in a small town or somewhere desolate) would be creepy as hell so long as they channel the identity of the very first movie.
Good! Outbreak is a rotten series that has next to nothing going for it. Games like this that manipulate the system are long overdue a slap. Seems to me that MS (between this news and the news of a new category in the hub) are working on making some solid changes to the storefront. Next, they need to work on store reviews
@Gabrie Ugh I hate that sort of thing haha, unless it actually pays to die over and over (like in Rogue Legacy) but dying to restart is just like, man... hella frustrating.
@Fiendish-Beaver I disagree. I think Sony, as the dominant platform, would be developing to sustain their income between their own base and the PC base - but they're not. They need as much of an audience as possible to bring home the bacon given the cost of the market. That said though, I do think HD2 will give them a direct peek into how worthwhile the Xbox market is.
Not that it would matter to them because if next gen rumours are true, we will have the ability to play their games nonetheless via (say) Steam or stream. It's going to be a fascinating gen imo.
you are easily satisfied, and I am harder to please... 😉
Whilst they're at it (as much as I love the sound of this new addition) they could do with allowing us to search by developer and publisher - unless that's already a thing - and further, they should once and for all sort out the store reviews and implement a system that prevent people from reviewing a game without it displaying their playtime...
These stats are available in everyone's profile. It surely wouldn't be hard to achieve.
It's been some time since I played this. Looking forward to giving it another spin. I tried watching the Mark Wharlberg movie version of this and man, it sucked lol.
@cragis0001 Yeah that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. In question of regulation, I do wonder if streaming services / game apps (such as GP / PS Plus) will ever come under scrutiny either. Especially if one day we see them crossing platforms. I'd imagine to MS, having Game Pass on PS would be pretty huge.
@Fiendish-Beaver No no, I considered them multiplatform the moment I saw that HD2 was coming over, grouped with the fact that the devs said it was all Sony, and then grouped with the fact that they posted a job listing with that intent. I reckon we start seeing their games sooner than later.
HD2 may very well be their equivalent to MS' "four games only" test.
@cragis0001 That's one thing I'm very curious about. Will we see an age where PS Plus or Game Pass are on multiple platforms? If so, it then becomes a race to see who sells the most subscriptions, surely? I'd be surprised if we don't see regulator intervention again within the next ten years.
@Fiendish-Beaver Yeah that would be more ideal for me. That, or being able to return a clearly game breaking bug (as was my case with Mafia).
@SuntannedDuck2 I totally agree. I think devs get caught up in the things that we disregard after just a few hours lol. I personally lived FM5 the most, but I get it; they have to go bigger and better, and unfortunately that comes at the expensive or a bigger budget that ultimately struggled to repay.
Nightdive are class at what they do but I really hope they're considering a remaster of the classic two OG Xbox Buffy games, given there will be a boom in popularity for the IP once the (soft) reboot series comes out.
Given the popularity of FH cross platform, it wouldn't at all surprise me. FH should be multiplat day one now IMO. FM (or sim racing) has just got too samey samey. I imagine without the cost of track measuring and all the licences and complexities that come with sim racing development, it's much cheaper to stick to FH.
@cragis0001 More games in Game Pass would be an interesting shout. Especially if they are indeed opening themselves to more storefronts next gen, and if the next Xbox really does play these games across multiple storefronts - streaming or natively - it's an interesting prospect to think about what might hit Game Pass through those other storefronts.
Haha, not had a hit of caffeine myself yet. I know the feeling. As for complaining to the gov, I wouldn't even know where to begin. I hear Steam has like a few hours worth of buffer - like, you can play the game and return it if you've only played an X amount of time. Something like that would be great.
@Fiendish-Beaver You're almost laser focused on the prospect of someone else having a "gotcha" moment, when that's not what's relevant. What's relevant is the very fact that Sony are going multiplat. When MS made similar moves, you'd have thought the world came to a grinding halt.
Someone being able to sit back and say "told ya so" in an X amount of years is totally off point - and it's got nothing to do with what you order from McDonald's or what your doctor told you - it's got everything to do with the fact that this move from Sony was coherently unheard of and unspoken of this time last year...
The news here is that Sony is going multiplat. That's the news. That's big news. The when, the what, and the why is not important. The intent is what's important.
@cragis0001 Mate the pricing of games is a must. I totally agree. I also hope it gives us some better returns options for games that are digital. Nothing worse than playing a broken game on Xbox that you cant return simply because you loaded it up. And yes you're absolutely right. MS have excellent vision, but sometimes they fall short on delivery (even just in the console space we can see how much this is true - Mixer, Kinect, etc...) They have to nail it, like you said.
@Fiendish-Beaver That's just it. It doesn't just say live-service. Which is the point. If it was going to be live service only, that would have been made very clear from the off. I really don't understand why people are focusing so closely on making the discussion about the "when" or the "what" rather than the matter of fact. The big news is that Sony "is" going multiplat. The when or what is irrelevant because that's all guesswork.
As for the games that come over... Sony have a lot of decent IP I'd happily try out. TLOU is overrated IMO, but GoW doesn't look too bad, nor does GT and Uncharted.
@Millionski It's baffling isn't it? The constant stance changing. I get that folks may be uncomfortable with change in the industry, but change isn't looking for friends...
We know as clear as day that Sony hasn't specifically said live service only, which means everything is on the table - otherwise Sony would have come out and said so.
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Re: Talking Point: What Should Xbox Do To Celebrate Its 25th Anniversary Next Year?
@Aniscape I know right? I think it's quite fitting too, given that Fable was an OG Xbox game as well. I cant wait. I cant believe how quick this year is flying by.
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (August 12)
@HardRockGamer Predator would be amazing to be fair. That'd actually work better than Terminator. Man, I need to rewatch the Pred movies before I get into that new show.
Re: Football Manager 26 Is Coming To Xbox, And It Looks Like A Major Overhaul For The Series
@Ricky-Spanish Way too in=depth aint they... Far too many systems and layers of technicality for me to even care about trying one any time soon lol.
Re: PUBG Getting Free Current-Gen Upgrade, Xbox One Version Going Offline This November
@Markatron84 Took me a while to see that too when you pointed that out, but man, I wouldn't personally be doing a comparison like this if I was them :/
@Lup Lmao! I can totally relate to that. I don't even go to the gym, I tried those in-house HiiTs from YouTube. Never again O_o I was walking like John Wayne.
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Fiendish-Beaver Perhaps. That said, I think when MS have enough games under its belt to offer a sub service (Game Pass 1P) which is Game Pass but only with MS games, we might see it branch out to Ninty too.
Re: Ubisoft Is Working On A 'Big Division 2 Project' Following Its Recent Xbox Game Pass Launch
Wow, bit late in the game isn't it?...
Re: Talking Point: What Should Xbox Do To Celebrate Its 25th Anniversary Next Year?
Fable is enough for me. That alone is going to be huge for 2026.
Re: PUBG Getting Free Current-Gen Upgrade, Xbox One Version Going Offline This November
@Kezelpaso Mate... Thanks! I've been looking at the truck, the buildings, the textures, and I thought I was going mad lol! I can see what you've pointed out now though, some shadows for the shrubs and a few extra conifers Now I truly feel like I'm living in the current gen!
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
@cragis0001 I agree. I think they're either looking at (or have found) a better way to make money moving to next gen, or at least have an idea of how to achieve financial success without being tethered to rules and boundaries that have been set in stone since the 90s.
Re: Impressive Open World RPG Crimson Desert Now Coming To Xbox In Q1 2026
@Lup No it does not lol. This one is on my radar too
Re: Football Manager 26 Is Coming To Xbox, And It Looks Like A Major Overhaul For The Series
Nice for those that like this sort of game / genre, but they're way too technical for my tastes lol.
Re: PUBG Getting Free Current-Gen Upgrade, Xbox One Version Going Offline This November
Is it just me, or do those two images look freakin' identical? What did they upgrade?...
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Fiendish-Beaver I'm sure there's a story in my head somewhere about Game Pass via a web surfer being blocked? Or was that related to the whole mobile market fiasco?
Re: Two More Games Are Getting Delisted On Xbox In September 2025
I was never interested in any of these so no real loss for me.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally Infographic Appears Alongside Early Amazon Listing
Curious for the pricing too for the UK.
Re: inZOI Xbox Release Now 'Under Consideration' As PS5 Port Announced For 2026
Not a huge Sims fan but this game does look pretty as hell.
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Fiendish-Beaver You're right in regards to Sony having their hands tied. I'm not sure how much power they have in regards to other platforms. For instance, I'm not sure if they can say "we're releasing this on Steam, but these platforms with access to Steam are not allowed to buy it". I don't get the technical behind the veil, so to speak.
Will they cut off a platform that already has access though, whilst still releasing everywhere else? I aint so sure they would. It just wouldn't make much sense to me for them to do that, when the option is already there and the port process is suggested to be super easy work if the next Xbox has the ability to play PC games.
Re: Gamescom 2025 Opening Night Live Showcase: Date, Start Times & What To Expect
@Elbow That's why I'm getting confused then, because the host is the same. Thanks man. Yeah I loved that guy's energy. He was either severely jet lagged, or severely passionate lol.
Re: Rockstar Working 'Close' With Remedy As Max Payne 1+2 Development Advances
@TrollOfWar You're a gem mate. Thanks! I might actually pick up MP3 today as that's the only one I never played (I can't remember why) and then work back to 2 then 1.
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
@cragis0001 No me either, but I do think next gen will be one that either moves a lot of the barriers, or removes some. I could be wrong but given all the changes in the industry we've seen as of late, I do think next gen will be very different to what came before.
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (August 12)
@HardRockGamer I'm really looking forward to Isolation 2. They nailed the vibe with Isolation. That said, I'd absolutely welcome the same sort of vibe with, say, Terminator. Terminator Isolation (set in a small town or somewhere desolate) would be creepy as hell so long as they channel the identity of the very first movie.
Re: Gamescom 2025 Opening Night Live Showcase: Date, Start Times & What To Expect
Isn't this the "F the Oscars" event? Lol. I love the energy of that guy.
Re: Xbox Clamps Down On 'Bundle Spam', Says Developers Are Manipulating The Microsoft Store
Good! Outbreak is a rotten series that has next to nothing going for it. Games like this that manipulate the system are long overdue a slap. Seems to me that MS (between this news and the news of a new category in the hub) are working on making some solid changes to the storefront. Next, they need to work on store reviews
Re: Hellblade 2 Enhanced Adds One New Xbox Achievement, And It's Very Difficult To Complete
@Gabrie Ugh I hate that sort of thing haha, unless it actually pays to die over and over (like in Rogue Legacy) but dying to restart is just like, man... hella frustrating.
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Fiendish-Beaver I disagree. I think Sony, as the dominant platform, would be developing to sustain their income between their own base and the PC base - but they're not. They need as much of an audience as possible to bring home the bacon given the cost of the market. That said though, I do think HD2 will give them a direct peek into how worthwhile the Xbox market is.
Not that it would matter to them because if next gen rumours are true, we will have the ability to play their games nonetheless via (say) Steam or stream. It's going to be a fascinating gen imo.
you are easily satisfied, and I am harder to please... 😉
Tell that to my wife... O_o
Re: Rockstar Working 'Close' With Remedy As Max Payne 1+2 Development Advances
@TrollOfWar Did not know they were BC, thanks man. Are they still up for purchase or are they just live on the store for people that already own them?
Re: Capcom Publisher Sale Now Live On Xbox, Alongside More Weekly Game Pass Discounts
What's Vampire like? Has anyone here tried that out?
Re: Helldivers 2 'Bring The Boom' Trailer Teases Halo ODST Crossover On Xbox
Perhaps curiously... will this event also be on PlayStation? At this point, most probably!
Absolutely it will, and what a collab! Very happy to see this sort of partnership. The more the merrier I say.
Re: Xbox's Latest 'Buy One, Get One Free' Promotion Is Now Live
None of these are really for me. Nice to see them decently priced though.
Re: Hellblade 2 Enhanced Adds One New Xbox Achievement, And It's Very Difficult To Complete
Dark Rot? What's that, like perma death?
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
@cragis0001 Curious, is that true the other way round? GP on PS browser? Or is that ironically blocked?...
Re: Two Games Are Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (August 12)
Ahead of Alien Earth tomorrow, Alien Fireteam was a smart choice - though, Isolation would have been better.
Re: Xbox Is Adding A New Category To Help Filter Your Games Library
Whilst they're at it (as much as I love the sound of this new addition) they could do with allowing us to search by developer and publisher - unless that's already a thing - and further, they should once and for all sort out the store reviews and implement a system that prevent people from reviewing a game without it displaying their playtime...
These stats are available in everyone's profile. It surely wouldn't be hard to achieve.
Re: Rockstar Working 'Close' With Remedy As Max Payne 1+2 Development Advances
It's been some time since I played this. Looking forward to giving it another spin. I tried watching the Mark Wharlberg movie version of this and man, it sucked lol.
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
@cragis0001 Yeah that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. In question of regulation, I do wonder if streaming services / game apps (such as GP / PS Plus) will ever come under scrutiny either. Especially if one day we see them crossing platforms. I'd imagine to MS, having Game Pass on PS would be pretty huge.
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Fiendish-Beaver No no, I considered them multiplatform the moment I saw that HD2 was coming over, grouped with the fact that the devs said it was all Sony, and then grouped with the fact that they posted a job listing with that intent. I reckon we start seeing their games sooner than later.
HD2 may very well be their equivalent to MS' "four games only" test.
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
@cragis0001 That's one thing I'm very curious about. Will we see an age where PS Plus or Game Pass are on multiple platforms? If so, it then becomes a race to see who sells the most subscriptions, surely? I'd be surprised if we don't see regulator intervention again within the next ten years.
@Fiendish-Beaver Yeah that would be more ideal for me. That, or being able to return a clearly game breaking bug (as was my case with Mafia).
Re: Forza Motorsport Team 'Assures' Players That Support Will Continue
@SuntannedDuck2 I totally agree. I think devs get caught up in the things that we disregard after just a few hours lol. I personally lived FM5 the most, but I get it; they have to go bigger and better, and unfortunately that comes at the expensive or a bigger budget that ultimately struggled to repay.
Re: Xbox's Heretic + Hexen Remasters Are 'Exceptional', Says Digital Foundry
Nightdive are class at what they do but I really hope they're considering a remaster of the classic two OG Xbox Buffy games, given there will be a boom in popularity for the IP once the (soft) reboot series comes out.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Hoping To See At Gamescom 2025?
Wishful thinking but I wouldn't mind seeing something of SoD3.
Re: EA Rejected The Idea Of 'Dragon Age 1-3 Remastered'
Kinda surprised it got cut short. Didn't the ME Trilogy do well?
Re: Talking Point: Is Forza Horizon About To Become Xbox's Main Forza Franchise?
Given the popularity of FH cross platform, it wouldn't at all surprise me. FH should be multiplat day one now IMO. FM (or sim racing) has just got too samey samey. I imagine without the cost of track measuring and all the licences and complexities that come with sim racing development, it's much cheaper to stick to FH.
Re: This 'Clear Edition' Xbox Series X Is Going Viral Right Now
That looks ugly as hell. They should have steampunked it a little to make it fit.
Re: Xbox President 'Delighted' To Join Board Of Directors At Tyson Foods
Good for her. Not sure what this means in the grand scheme of things but she's clearly following what she wants.
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
@cragis0001 More games in Game Pass would be an interesting shout. Especially if they are indeed opening themselves to more storefronts next gen, and if the next Xbox really does play these games across multiple storefronts - streaming or natively - it's an interesting prospect to think about what might hit Game Pass through those other storefronts.
Haha, not had a hit of caffeine myself yet. I know the feeling. As for complaining to the gov, I wouldn't even know where to begin. I hear Steam has like a few hours worth of buffer - like, you can play the game and return it if you've only played an X amount of time. Something like that would be great.
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Fiendish-Beaver You're almost laser focused on the prospect of someone else having a "gotcha" moment, when that's not what's relevant. What's relevant is the very fact that Sony are going multiplat. When MS made similar moves, you'd have thought the world came to a grinding halt.
Someone being able to sit back and say "told ya so" in an X amount of years is totally off point - and it's got nothing to do with what you order from McDonald's or what your doctor told you - it's got everything to do with the fact that this move from Sony was coherently unheard of and unspoken of this time last year...
The news here is that Sony is going multiplat. That's the news. That's big news. The when, the what, and the why is not important. The intent is what's important.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Playing Assassin's Creed Mirage On Xbox Game Pass?
AC Mirage is the worst of the reboots IMO. By a long stretch. Valhalla and Shadows is the best IMO.
Re: Helldivers 2 Coming To Xbox Was All Because Of PlayStation, Says Developer
@cragis0001 Mate the pricing of games is a must. I totally agree. I also hope it gives us some better returns options for games that are digital. Nothing worse than playing a broken game on Xbox that you cant return simply because you loaded it up. And yes you're absolutely right. MS have excellent vision, but sometimes they fall short on delivery (even just in the console space we can see how much this is true - Mixer, Kinect, etc...) They have to nail it, like you said.
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Fiendish-Beaver That's just it. It doesn't just say live-service. Which is the point. If it was going to be live service only, that would have been made very clear from the off. I really don't understand why people are focusing so closely on making the discussion about the "when" or the "what" rather than the matter of fact. The big news is that Sony "is" going multiplat. The when or what is irrelevant because that's all guesswork.
As for the games that come over... Sony have a lot of decent IP I'd happily try out. TLOU is overrated IMO, but GoW doesn't look too bad, nor does GT and Uncharted.
Re: Sony SVP Discusses 'Moving Away From A Hardware-Centric Business Model'
@Millionski It's baffling isn't it? The constant stance changing. I get that folks may be uncomfortable with change in the industry, but change isn't looking for friends...
We know as clear as day that Sony hasn't specifically said live service only, which means everything is on the table - otherwise Sony would have come out and said so.