Kaloudz

Perhaps curiously... will this event also be on PlayStation? At this point, most probably!

Absolutely it will, and what a collab! Very happy to see this sort of partnership. The more the merrier I say.

None of these are really for me. Nice to see them decently priced though.

Dark Rot? What's that, like perma death?

@cragis0001 Curious, is that true the other way round? GP on PS browser? Or is that ironically blocked?...

Ahead of Alien Earth tomorrow, Alien Fireteam was a smart choice - though, Isolation would have been better.

Whilst they're at it (as much as I love the sound of this new addition) they could do with allowing us to search by developer and publisher - unless that's already a thing - and further, they should once and for all sort out the store reviews and implement a system that prevent people from reviewing a game without it displaying their playtime...

These stats are available in everyone's profile. It surely wouldn't be hard to achieve.

It's been some time since I played this. Looking forward to giving it another spin. I tried watching the Mark Wharlberg movie version of this and man, it sucked lol.

@cragis0001 Yeah that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. In question of regulation, I do wonder if streaming services / game apps (such as GP / PS Plus) will ever come under scrutiny either. Especially if one day we see them crossing platforms. I'd imagine to MS, having Game Pass on PS would be pretty huge.

@Fiendish-Beaver No no, I considered them multiplatform the moment I saw that HD2 was coming over, grouped with the fact that the devs said it was all Sony, and then grouped with the fact that they posted a job listing with that intent. I reckon we start seeing their games sooner than later.

HD2 may very well be their equivalent to MS' "four games only" test.

@cragis0001 That's one thing I'm very curious about. Will we see an age where PS Plus or Game Pass are on multiple platforms? If so, it then becomes a race to see who sells the most subscriptions, surely? I'd be surprised if we don't see regulator intervention again within the next ten years.

@Fiendish-Beaver Yeah that would be more ideal for me. That, or being able to return a clearly game breaking bug (as was my case with Mafia).

@SuntannedDuck2 I totally agree. I think devs get caught up in the things that we disregard after just a few hours lol. I personally lived FM5 the most, but I get it; they have to go bigger and better, and unfortunately that comes at the expensive or a bigger budget that ultimately struggled to repay.

Nightdive are class at what they do but I really hope they're considering a remaster of the classic two OG Xbox Buffy games, given there will be a boom in popularity for the IP once the (soft) reboot series comes out.

Wishful thinking but I wouldn't mind seeing something of SoD3.

Kinda surprised it got cut short. Didn't the ME Trilogy do well?

Given the popularity of FH cross platform, it wouldn't at all surprise me. FH should be multiplat day one now IMO. FM (or sim racing) has just got too samey samey. I imagine without the cost of track measuring and all the licences and complexities that come with sim racing development, it's much cheaper to stick to FH.

That looks ugly as hell. They should have steampunked it a little to make it fit.

Good for her. Not sure what this means in the grand scheme of things but she's clearly following what she wants.

@cragis0001 More games in Game Pass would be an interesting shout. Especially if they are indeed opening themselves to more storefronts next gen, and if the next Xbox really does play these games across multiple storefronts - streaming or natively - it's an interesting prospect to think about what might hit Game Pass through those other storefronts.

Haha, not had a hit of caffeine myself yet. I know the feeling. As for complaining to the gov, I wouldn't even know where to begin. I hear Steam has like a few hours worth of buffer - like, you can play the game and return it if you've only played an X amount of time. Something like that would be great.

@Fiendish-Beaver You're almost laser focused on the prospect of someone else having a "gotcha" moment, when that's not what's relevant. What's relevant is the very fact that Sony are going multiplat. When MS made similar moves, you'd have thought the world came to a grinding halt.

Someone being able to sit back and say "told ya so" in an X amount of years is totally off point - and it's got nothing to do with what you order from McDonald's or what your doctor told you - it's got everything to do with the fact that this move from Sony was coherently unheard of and unspoken of this time last year...

The news here is that Sony is going multiplat. That's the news. That's big news. The when, the what, and the why is not important. The intent is what's important.

AC Mirage is the worst of the reboots IMO. By a long stretch. Valhalla and Shadows is the best IMO.

@cragis0001 Mate the pricing of games is a must. I totally agree. I also hope it gives us some better returns options for games that are digital. Nothing worse than playing a broken game on Xbox that you cant return simply because you loaded it up. And yes you're absolutely right. MS have excellent vision, but sometimes they fall short on delivery (even just in the console space we can see how much this is true - Mixer, Kinect, etc...) They have to nail it, like you said.

@Fiendish-Beaver That's just it. It doesn't just say live-service. Which is the point. If it was going to be live service only, that would have been made very clear from the off. I really don't understand why people are focusing so closely on making the discussion about the "when" or the "what" rather than the matter of fact. The big news is that Sony "is" going multiplat. The when or what is irrelevant because that's all guesswork.

As for the games that come over... Sony have a lot of decent IP I'd happily try out. TLOU is overrated IMO, but GoW doesn't look too bad, nor does GT and Uncharted.

@Millionski It's baffling isn't it? The constant stance changing. I get that folks may be uncomfortable with change in the industry, but change isn't looking for friends...

We know as clear as day that Sony hasn't specifically said live service only, which means everything is on the table - otherwise Sony would have come out and said so.

@Fiendish-Beaver You could be right, it could very well be two years into next gen before we see anything - especially if the job listing is hiring for work yet to begin (on ports) but the question is no longer a case of if, but when. Sony's intent is clear right now - which is big news. Questioning when something will come over is irrelevant because we know that their plan is to multiplat to some degree.

As for the cost of next gen, I think we're looking at a price factor of £550. Perhaps at an absolute push, £600.

@IOI I get your point, totally, but I still think from what I've read, it did more than the first game (with a few deviations) to warrant not entirely being more of the same. If that was the general rule of thumb, most sequels would fall short (CoD, AC etc...) :/

@DaPrince Echoes isn't on Game Pass bud, so I wouldn't be able to try it. I tend to wait for feedback for a lot of games and rarely buy any these days given the price hikes. Not only that, but as someone with seizures, and with there being no real digital returns process (that make sense), I like to see how "flashy" games are first

Echoes looks good but I'll wait for feedback first. As for GP, I'll no doubt turn to Alien Fireteam whilst watching Alien Earth!

I saw the word Expedition and nearly had a heart attack lol.

@Fiendish-Beaver I'm going to side-step the whole debate about when Sony will bring them over because we know that it will happen - which is big enough news in itself, and I cant offer any specifics on the "when" lol, because I'm not Mystic Meg.

How much I will I pay? Well I don't think we will get the same option next gen that we got this gen (two consoles - one budget and one not). I think we will get two versions of the same machine - one with a disk drive and one without - same specs.

How much I'm willing to pay will probably sit between the 400-550 range.

@Ricky-Spanish Lmao. Got to ask you your fave NB song now! Yeah the first one was pretty grim, but I nearly avoided it simply because of the mental health tone (for personal reasons). Glad the second one is more supernatural. That's actually right in my wheelhouse!

@Master_Cthulhu70 Hellblade 1 was praised for being a linear, minimalist, immersive experience that blurred the line between game and psychological "art piece". Hellblade 2 doubled down on that same vision and people act like they were betrayed or something lol.

Exactly. I just get the feeling sometimes that if this exact game was made by a Sony studio, the weighted score would be way more positive. That could just be me being sceptical about how things are viewed, but, this is hardly an isolated incident lol.

@DaveTheRave GP is costing them a fortune? If GP was costing more to run than it was making, they'd have sunset it a long, long time ago... MS went in the direction they've gone in for the same reason most (once) exclusive developers / publishers have now gone multiplat - because the market is only getting more and more expensive. It costs hundreds of millions to run a studio, so much so that one failed project can make or break even a longstanding studio. The amount of closures, cancellations, price hikes, and more, should tell you that.

@Millionski I know right? It's just baffling to me that when MS did this, people were more than keen to sharpen their pitchforks. Sony does it? Not a peep... In fact the loudest demographic are those trying to downplay it. You just cant make this up.

@Fiendish-Beaver I'm not making up a narrative, I'm going off what we know. We know Sony has a position going for multiplat support (including Xbox and not specific to live service). We know Sony is bringing over HD2 and according to the developer, it was all Sony. Just these two snippets (out of many) alone is telling enough in itself.

@Fiendish-Beaver I would say the opposite is true. I think people are flapping around trying to damage control a situation that is as blatant as blue in the sky. Hell, even Sony's lack of clarification on the matter is telling in itself.

@Ricky-Spanish Yeah I played the first game but just never bothered with the second game. I heard the length was like, 8 hours or something? I just mentally shelved it as a "one day I'll get to it" sort of thing and never bothered lol. The first game was shrouded in mental health if I recall. Is the sequel the same?

Oh man, a fellow Nickelbackion! <3

@Fiendish-Beaver It is not what he said, Kaloudz. Don't get carried away yet again...

Ugh. It's not just about the context of this one piece of intel, it's about the movement on the whole. HD2, job adverts that clearly point to multiplat support (including Xbox), the fact that nowhere did they state live-service only despite having ample time to do so.

@Ricky-Spanish I think it's just one of those things isn't it. The Nickelback or EA effect. It's cool to hate on something that other people are hating on, so lets hate on it for no reason... :/ Lol.

@cragis0001 Yeah I've read that too, and I'm all for it. The possibilities will be sky high if they have really gone that route and given their work as of late, I wouldn't be surprised.

@Fiendish-Beaver I'm not into PC gaming at all - in the sense that I'd have to mess about with settings and drivers etc... Now if the next Xbox has gone the route I think it has (having the ability to play Xbox PC games) I wont need to - I'd have the best of both worlds - especially if they have multiple storefront support.

Sadly I cant remedy how your mind works when it comes to trying to pull random dates out of random people. You're turning the discussion from "Sony will release on Xbox and other platforms" (which is huge news in and of itself) to "let's see when people think it will happen" which is just impossible to predict because it will be determined based on how well things sell to begin with.

I enjoyed BF1 quite a lot.

Currently re-running E33 at the moment, but if this is well received, I might make it my next project.

I imagine sales will sky rocket once it leaves EA. Obsidian just keep cranking out solid games. I'm holding out for full release, and absolutely cannot wait. It looks amazing.

I've yet to pick this one up, but it's definitely on my to-buy list before the year is out.

Most of the feedback I've seen paint a very positive picture. It's nice to finally have a game that keeps CoD on its toes.

Ha, I remember SSX - I also remember how much I sucked at it.

@TrollOfWar True. I haven't tried the second game myself because I'm not really into the whole walking-sim experience, but I do wish NT would go back and create a new IP in the hack and slash genre. I personally thought their take on DmC was remarkably well done.

@Ricky-Spanish Lol. It's funny, but there's parts of me that think that that's actually the case ...

@cragis0001 That's very true - and I'm all the way in for it. I think it'd be a wonderful addition myself. It opens up more ports, more avenues, and more possibilities.

@Fiendish-Beaver I'm not sure why you're so keen to have a time-frame bud. No one can predict that accurately because it will depend on the sales of titles that come beforehand. It will be dictated by what games make sense, and whether there's a gap for it in the market on other storefronts.

Yup. Like many of us have said - the writing is on the wall - and this is only a good thing. The market (and game dev) is only becoming more and more expensive, so unless we want a future where we are paying north of £100 for a game, multiplatform releasing is the way forward. Microsoft were the first to do it, but not the last.

It wont be just live service games either. In time, anything will be on the slate - across the board.

The scores don't surprise me. I am surprised, however, that the first game was absolutely championed for all the negatives we're seeing here lol...

@themightyant That's the one! Thanks man.

@cragis0001 Exactly. Further, if the next Xbox can play Xbox PC games as well as console games, it would add weight to the suggestion that there will be multiple storefronts next gen. It all just adds up to one hell of an exciting prospect.