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@Titntin cheers mate. This isn’t my first rodeo but it’s certainly my longest. We have butted heads quite a few times before but you are right it’s absolutely pointless and I shouldn’t waste my time in future…it was a slow Monday 😅

@BAMozzy So he’s not your dad?

@BAMozzy Is Bill Gates your dad or something? I’ve honestly never known someone so committed to a corporation.

@HeavyHoggJP No winner in this one…just two losers who have wasted their time.

@BAMozzy I’m going to take the sage advice from others here and call it a day. Until next time our paths cross enjoy playing Halo 5 on your one of your Xbox’s.

@DonkeyFantasy 😂 I full well know it’s like arguing with a brick wall but there’s something about it I can’t resist.

@BAMozzy watch the video in this article and tell me it’s not misleading. https://www.purexbox.com/news/2025/10/sarah-bond-shows-off-where-microsoft-is-prototyping-for-the-next-generation-of-xbox

Some direct quotes:
“In addition to playing Xbox console games on it you can play any pc or streamable game” - Host
“You can actually have your full high fidelity gaming library and have it in your hands” - Sarah Bond
“Because if your console gaming at home and have to go…it actually knows where you were in the game, you can jump back in right where you left off. It syncs progress” - Sarah Bond
“Because it’s windows you can get ALL of your library…it brings together an aggregated library and that’s just something that’s not available anywhere else” - Leadbetter (another massive lie on the end there because it’s been available on every Windows handheld for 2+ years)

Literally no mention of Play Anywhere or the difference between console and PC in the entire 3 minute video. When Xbox stop saying you can play ALL your games on this device I will stop complaining about their lacklustre marketing efforts. Semantics over whether a game is Xbox published or whether I have bought a third party game on my Xbox are irrelevant when Microsoft are literally telling me I can buy an Ally and play all these games. I’m not being selfish or blinkered and haven’t once said all third parties should all be play anywhere…I’m saying MS should not be marketing this as an Xbox that plays your Xbox games because it doesn’t. Reviewers and thousands of gamers are saying the exact same thing I am so at what point do you accept your the one in the bubble?

@BAMozzy Ok dude your getting angry, defensive and hostile so maybe tone it down and remember you’re not Phil Spencer and I am criticising Microsoft Marketing not you.

I am not comfortably ignorant, I own a PC, have subbed on and off to GPU since it started and have owned every mainstream Xbox. I know exactly what this is and what it can do. I am talking from the point of view of a consumer who buys this on the back of being an Xbox customer and thinking, based on several marketing campaigns, that this is going to play their Xbox games. Calling people ignorant isn’t going to change the fact that if I bought Borderlands 4, Assassins Creed Shadows, KCD2 etc on my series X then I would need to rebuy them on an Xbox Rog Ally. That is not a nice, universal ecosystem, it is 2 separate ecosystems which are named the same thing with a tiny bit of cross over. To the terminally online gamer this is fine, we know what we are buying and what it’s giving us. To your casual console gamer who I can only assume is at least part of the target audience for this it is confusing.

@BAMozzy it’s a bit unfair to call it blinkered from console gamers. People like us who follow gaming news sites or the industry in general are a tiny minority. Most people just buy their console of choice, a few games they are interested in and get on with their lives. If you don’t have a PC, have no interest in getting a PC and have been a console only Xbox gamer for 25 years why would you know or care about Play Anywhere or Xbox PC?

As much as it’s not the direction they are headed, the term Xbox is synonymous with consoles. Despite Microsoft’s “everything is an Xbox” campaign last year that hasn’t changed and it’s going to be a long time before it does change. So yeh if a device has the Xbox logo on it and Xbox are telling me it can play all my games I would be pretty disgruntled if I unboxed it to find it doesn’t play a massive portion of my library natively (including some first party games like Halo 5 and Doom 2016).

It looks like a great device BUT I can completely agree with any criticism levelled at it for calling itself an Xbox when it quite clearly isn’t one.

@BAMozzy “ The issue is that some still can't separate 'Xbox' from the 'Console' despite it being the Brand of Microsofts ENTIRE gaming division on PC, Cloud and of course Console”

Xbox has been a console for the best part of 25 years and a PC app for 6. Of course people are struggling to comprehend a device called Xbox which doesn’t play 90% of your Xbox console game library. Especially when MS marketing is muddying the waters with vague, if not outright false statements about what it can do.

My Steamdeck serves my needs perfectly so I won’t be replacing it unless Valve release a Steamdeck 2

Keeper on Xbox
Ghost of Yotei on PS
BallxPit on Steam

@Gabrie You can make video game reviews disappear by just not reading them. For lots of people they are an excellent guide for where to invest their limited time and money. Yes they are subjective but if most reviewers are saying a game is good it’s likely to be good (Elden Ring) and if most reviewers are saying it’s bad it’s likely to be bad (Gollum). You are completely free to ignore reviews but your subjective opinion that they should disappear would not be great for those who use them to decide which games out of thousands of options would be a good choice for them.

I’ve got to admit I haven’t been majorly interested in Keeper but the fact that Double Fine have come out and said they have purposely kept quiet so as not to spoil any surprises does have me intrigued. I was kind of worried it hadn’t received much marketing or buzz due to a lack of confidence but it seems like they want players to go in as blind as possible and experience it for themselves which I respect the hell out of. It’s getting downloaded!

@Llamageddon It is my favourite response because it’s just so self fulfilling and illogical. If people don’t buy the game due to some petty boycott it literally tells the publisher that they were correct and it was not worth the cost or effort porting to the console.

@Gabrie Yeh this is not that. The games been getting rave reviews, someone asked about an Xbox version in the discord and the devs responded saying it’s not on the cards atm. A bunch of Xbox fans who probably wouldn’t have bought the game anyway kicked off so the developers put out an official statement addressing it. They are a tiny team and the fact that you haven’t heard of the game is a testament to how little they have been making a song and dance or drawing attention to themselves….people asked a question, they answered with some pretty generic statements and it has, for some reason become news. Literally no one would care if it scored 1.0 point lower on Metacritic.

Man that’s such sh%t news. RIP Tomonobu

@Kilamanjaro Haha I watched this video and I can’t believe more people aren’t pointing this out. The segment went out on one of the most watched morning tv shows in America clearly aimed at parents who would get the impression this will be a great Christmas buy for their kids with Xbox’s. They mentioned being able to play your entire gaming library 3 times but didn’t once caveat Play Anywhere or the difference between console and PC. Hats of to Microsoft, they have turned a reskin of an existing 3rd party product into international news whilst taking way more credit than they deserve but this marketing is misleading at best and false advertising at worst.

I take all rumours with a massive pinch of salt but the same can be said for any PR statements Xbox put out as well. They have pivoted, backtracked and outright lied too many times this generation for me to take anything they say seriously. I judge them solely based on their actions and those actions have not been pretty since the ABK acquisition.

It’s rare I will even complete a game once with my attention span let alone replay them but I used to do it alot as a kid when time wasn’t an issue and there wasn’t sooo much game choice. In my adult life it’s only really been From Software games on NG+ I’ve had any interest in replaying. Looter games like Diablo, Destiny and Borderlands sometimes get a replay with a new build as well I guess.

It looks really good. Those are some demanding games and it is knocking out a high consistent frame rate. Hopefully the dude can use his Ally to get better at Forza because those were some brutal crashes.

It’s been an awesome year. GOTY for me would be KCD2 with Expedition 33 a very close second.

@Balaam_ My first thought was “how much did Microsoft pay Time for this?” I could understand the original ROG Ally appearing on 2023’s list but this isn’t an invention it’s an iteration.

@Simu001 ASUS XBox Series 720-1080 ABC Box XSXoooooooXSX 2

I will buy it on Steam but I will credit Gamepass with introducing me to the first game. I probably never would have tried it otherwise

@AkumaG You have to be trolling by this point because if your this dumb your a danger to yourself and your surroundings.

@AkumaG cool well I’m going to go ahead and believe the curry’s website over some dude on the internet but have an enjoyable rest of your day.

@AkumaG eerrmm ok? https://www.currys.co.uk/products/xbox-elite-series-2-wireless-controller-black-10195862.html

It’s £159 on curry’s and I was talking about the Elite Series 3 if and when it comes out….chances of the RRP being less than the 2 is slim.

I really like my Elite Series 2 and it’s serving me well on Xbox and PC with no issues so it would have to be a pretty significant upgrade to make me consider it. I can’t see what they can possibly add which would make me fork out another £150+ but I’m open to being pleasantly surprised.

Surprising considering the history between MS and Lionhead but I suppose he is commenting on his time working directly with Phil Spencer rather than for him.

@Bears-Wear-Hats Ohhh that’s awesome thanks for letting me know. I will deffo be giving it a go at some point then.

I would rather pay for something like GeForce Now and know I’m going to get quality than stream for free via xCloud knowing it’s going to be terrible AND I need to sit through adverts. Either way streaming isn’t for me and I really don’t want this cloud based future we seem to be heading towards.

Played it on PS5 when it released. I never completed it but I enjoyed what I played.

@Jenkinss I’ve only very recently got into FTL having had it sat dormant in my steam library for a year. That game is addictive as hell although I cannot beat it to save my life. I might have to get this but doubt I will convince my mates and I don’t want to play with randos

@BAMozzy Fair mate. Different devices for different needs. I would wholeheartedly recommend dipping your toes into steam a bit more though. I’d only dabbled with Steam before I got the deck in 2024 and it’s half the reason I have gone full PC in 2025. Ridiculously good prices, workshop is awesome, super consumer friendly, great community features, it has more support from CDkeys, humble and fanatical than anything else and it has the most choice in games by a country mile. I wouldn’t have called myself a PS, Xbox or Nintendo fanboy but I will proudly hold my hands up and say I’m a Steam fanboy. They treat their customers right although GoG is also awesome.

@BAMozzy I’m not majorly interested in Cod or battlefield and even less interested in playing them on a handheld…they certainly wouldn’t be the make or break in my decision to by a device. My Steamdeck is predominantly an Indie machine but it does surprisingly well with games like Ass Creed shadows, KCD2 and BG3. Also I love the track pads which are great for anything more traditionally PC which is why if I opted for more power my first choice would be a legion go. Genuinely hope you enjoy your new ally though, it looks cool and if I had way more disposable income I would probably get it.

@BAMozzy I think “better” is subjective but if power is what your after yep you may as well keep your pre order. Steam is my go to on PC. Only thing that would interest me in the Xbox ally is the ergonomics and I don’t fancy paying a massive surplus for that. I have about 4 digital games in my Xbox library and none of them are play anywhere. Every single AAA game I have bought this year I have checked to see if it is play anywhere before buying so I could use Xbox and PC but they aren’t so I’ve bought them on Steam where every game is play anywhere. I have no intention of continuing subbing to GPU so with a library of over 100 games, most of which I can play on the deck it suits my needs perfectly.

@BAMozzy I’ve always said I will admit when I’m wrong and apologise. I actually properly read what you wrote and it wasn’t blinkered obsession so im sorry for saying that. Genuine question though, has this made you rethink the Ally X preorder or at least made you consider starting to use Steam? I don’t see the point of spending £800 on a marginal upgrade when you only buy into the Xbox ecosystem which is now getting more expensive.

@BAMozzy there’s the Bamozzy I know and love. Blinkered obsession.

@FraserG Just want to say you’re a legend. Your always friendly to people no matter how much sh%t they give you (me included on occasion) and always positive despite how news like this must make your job more difficult. I genuinely hope PX has a long a prosperous future for you and Ben because you guys work your socks off.

@BAMozzy Good to see you finally hold Microsoft to account for doing something crap. It’s only taken several console and sub price hikes, tens of thousands of layoffs and several FTC lies but you seem to finally be seeing Microsoft for who they actually are….a scummy company who could not give a %^#* about their user base, only profits.

Nah I’m good. Sub lapses mid November and I think I have enough reward points to sub another month to play COD through to Xmas which is usually when I start to get bored of it anyway. After that I’m done with the brand. The small amount of first party games I can’t live without like Forza Horizon 6 I can buy on Steam or PS5.

Let’s not try and spin a massive price increase into something positive…this is crap and everyone knows it

Im losing count of the amount of gamepass price increases we have had since they promised they wouldn’t raise it during the FTC trial

If only I could play all the Xbox games I own natively without needing to rebuy them. That would be cool for an Xbox device.

Big nerf. Can’t be too mad as I have done well out of rewards for GPU this year but it’s still frustrating

@Hapless comment 57, second last of the many paragraphs for a prime example of what I’m talking about. If it runs on Linux in his mind it’s not a PC. Discounting 50 odd years of other OS’s because he can’t get his head of out Satya Nadella’s ass

@Stocksy 👏👏👏 The dude would buy a bag full of dog turd if it had an Xbox logo on it and Phil Spencer told him it was good. I’ve had the argument with him before about how the Steamdeck is a PC handheld but he won’t listen because his narrow minded view is that it can’t be a PC if it doesn’t have windows pre installed. As much as I loved you putting him in his place I would save your energy in future. No matter how much facts, logic and sources you present he will just keep spouting the same fanboy nonsense over and over and over and over.

Nope not interested. If I was going to spend close to a grand on a handheld (which I’m not) I would get a Legion Go.