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If I had known it's discounted that quickly (bought it for Switch 2), then I would not have bought it at launch. It's really annoying if games get a heavy discount that soon after launch. And then publishers probably wonder why people are not buying their games at full price...

"let players seamlessly switch between productivity and play, with a familiar full screen and controller optimized Xbox experience while embracing the openness of Windows"

Yeah thanks, but if I wanted that, then I'd buy a gaming PC. Full screen has been standard when I started gaming decades ago. I want a console to play games without all the issues that come with a PC (apart from the fact that I'm really glad I don't have to use Windows anymore).

Of course he says that, what else do you expect? The crucial question is whether everything will keep coming to PlayStation or not. If it does, there's not much point in a dedicated XBox.

Tried the Denshattack! demo on Switch 2, definitely looking forward to the GamePass release!

Well, the less games there are on a platform, the higher chances of a new game getting visibility I guess.

@Nightcrawler71 it's all about the $$$.

Given they are owned by Microsoft (and their "ambitious financial goals") I think it might be worth a headline that one title managed to meet expectations.

Sure and next you're gonna tell me the sky is blue. Honestly, there's really no point in these "rumours" anymore, we all know those games will come to PS5 at some point. The only question is how long it'll take for all of them come to PS5/6 at day one as a default.

@dskatter which is why I'm not a fan of the publisher route that Microsoft is going. I think it increases the revenue in the short-term, but not in the medium- to long-term.

Celebrating XBox by being a better publisher on PS5 than Sony 8)

Clockwork Revolution

Bought the game yesterday to support the devs. I hope they survive and manage to implement the features they still have planned. It's really a shame there hasn't been a proper and great Burnout since Burnout 4.

My preference would be no deal at all for the sake of competition, but if it's between those two Paramount seems to be the far lesser evil than Netflix.

If the service were doing so great financially, there'd be no need to put the games on PlayStation (as they've been on PC day and date anyway for years now).

"The game's focus on co-op also results in another negative... you can't play the Black Ops 7 campaign offline - you can't even pause it. Yep, even when you enter solo and choose to block people from joining online, pausing doesn't stop the action, which is irritating when you're blasting through a single-player offering."

Oh boy, this is really unnecessary.

So as someone with GPU it costs me 40 instead of 60, right?

@themightyant Microsoft is the third biggest company in the world, for them the cost of dev kits aren't even peanuts (no matter whether it's 500$ or 2000$).

It's really difficult to believe that MS does NOT want people (devs + gamers) to abandon their hardware so they can focus on being a publisher.

@SodaPop6548 GamePass would've gone up in price no matter what. But yes, it might have gone up less if it weren't for tariffs.

Thanks, so I’ve still got some time to avoid the more than doubling in price (I’m currently paying 12,99) if that’s correct.

Looking at the plan picker linked above my statement is correct, GPU more than doubles in price for me.

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To be clear and fair, in the subscription area (where it shows the next billing date) it doesn’t show a new price yet, so let’s see how it and when it’ll affect how much I would have to pay for GPU.

According to the Microsoft website I’m currently paying 12,99€ per month for GPU. If the list above is correct, then I’ll either pay double or get Premium for the same amount.

@fatpunkslim with Ubisoft+ it's probably easier to sell the increase. They don't want an additional tier, they want additional revenue from the increase.

@Jake_homs I've given up hope on that one. There's a reason they haven't done it until now.

@TheGameThrifter given that it's a remaster of a remaster, I doubt Microsoft's expectations were that high. And the way I see it that game is just to introduce PS owners to Gears before the next Game launches next year. I really wonder how long it'll take for Microsoft to launch every game day and date on PS5 as well. Probably not that long since some people at Microsoft mainly see dollar signs.

Let's hope they don't end up being closed down in one of the next rounds of layoffs and studio closures.

I know we will never find out, but it would be super interesting to get an estimate of how much all the cancelled games at and around Microsoft have cost.

"Sure it sucks but from a business standpoint - if targets were being met and the game was healthily on track - this wouldn't have been shuttered."

@Kaloudz, you mean like the FPS game from Romero Games?

No surprise at all. At this point I'm also wondering what is going on with Kojima's game.

@Kaloudz yes and no, will definitely be a cross-gen release.

A few years away which also means a few years for someone to cancel it. Yeah, I really doubt it, but at this point I'd also not bet against that.

Kinda ironic that back then many feared this would mean the end of competition in the gaming landscape because Microsoft would just dominate it. If Sony knew how this would turn out, they probably would've acted differently back then. Who knew that Microsoft would just decide to become a publisher instead of a console manufacturer.

@Fiendish-Beaver, sums it up pretty well imo. GP will see a nice price increase sooner or later. A few years ago it seemed that it could be a nice platform where "niche games" also have a place, but with the latest changes it seems that no one is 100% safe. Devs will probably also try to avoid Microsoft as a partner if it's clear that things might change from one day to the next without any wrongdoings on the devs side. Let's see how it plays out in the next months and years, but I guess next year this time we'll see layoffs again.

Another nice touch to the whole layoffs at Microsoft:
https://www.m9.news/usa-news/microsoft-abusing-h-1b-outrage-over-indian-hirings/

@PsBoxSwitchOwner given that exclusives are a thing of the past for Microsoft, I don't know how much they bother. Especially given the success of Horizon.

You gotta love capitalism. No matter how much a company earns, it's never enough and significant cuts to the workforce are following. Plus, I honestly thought XBox would develop in a different way after the acquisition of ABK. And yeah, was a bit naive in hindsight.

Well, as the article says, the base game is 70$. If you want the "complete package/game" you have to pay quite a bit more anyway.

@MrMagic in hindsight they should not have been allowed to purchase Activision. I was in favor of it back then, but oh boy, I did not expect Microsoft to basically abandon their own ecosystem that quickly. If I had to bet I would have said that the risks of a Microsoft monopoly are much higher than of a Sony one, but here we are.

Awesome situation Sony is in. Whenever they screw up, Microsoft is immediately there to shine the light back on themselves.

Oh and the highlight, "vertical stand sold separately".

There's also an official blog post (https://blog.playstation.com/2024/09/10/welcome-playstation-5-pro-the-most-visually-impressive-way-to-play-games-on-playstation/). Only improved GPU is mentioned, no word about the CPU or the storage. No disc drive and a nice price tag. As some people already mentioned, funnily enough most games they showed were cross-gen, so far from being optimized for current gen. Seems like a pure waste of money...

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Actually it's 2 TB instead of 1, so my original comment isn't fully correct.

@FraserG to be fair, Microsoft's usage of "day one" in combination with XBox is pretty flexible these days anyway...

I wonder if it's a coincidence that we read more often about this now than in the past or not... but definitely not a good look.

@BacklogBrad at this point it’s bold to assume all those games will remain exclusive and not get a superior version on Sony‘s hardware.

Guess we have to get used to the biggest XBox announcements being about PS and not their own ecosystem (which at this point is basically a dead man walking).

Welcome to Microsoft.

@GhanaViking or just wait a few months and get the games for cheap. Plus, as we now the day 1 stuff will only apply to GPU in the future...

As already mentioned, if that happens then 1. XBox releases better games on PS5 in 2024 than on their own hardware and 2. XBox helps Sony big time filling the drought of their own studios.

If it were Forza Horizon 5 (which I doubt), then Xbox would release better games for PS5 than for their own hardware this year.

Just XBox doing XBox things, nothing new to see here.

Still trying to play the older games online in coop. Anyone else having issues connecting to other people? A year ago it sometimes didn't work, but trying again a few days later did the job. Since earlier this year it just doesn't work anymore (tbh I stopped trying 2-3 months ago or so).