@SuntannedDuck2 If you just had a series X with the amd equivalent of DLSS it would go along way. I’m not convinced a system twice as expensive is going to be significantly better. There are diminishing returns. We’ve had a full generation to see them. Maybe it’s just a fluke. But we could all spend double the money next generation and find out nope that diminishing returns is a thing. I’d rather not do that.
So based on this video I’d think Apple TV and Apple Arcade is the future. You can play the games mobile, simple enough to play on Apple TV and cheap. But here we are going for the most expensive systems in the world and testing people’s wallet. I’m not their consumer since I don’t have trust and I can barely buy a digital game anymore without thinking that I’m essentially renting this until it all goes offline. But good luck trying to restore good will. Hey we lost the ps4 generation when everyone was building their libraries. And so let’s follow that up by going full nuclear with all our decisions on the series generation. Surely people will give us a third try. Third try is a charm after all.
I don’t know how a real win wouldnt simply to find a way to produce series X at half the price and onto store shelves. Name it series z for all I care. The important thing is getting these prices down.
@RetroMan71 you can mock but these threads are looking ghost town ish. And the staff will likely be getting moved or laid off as a result which will further the end of this site.
I can understand some people think 2027 is close. But if the console prices aren’t going to drop then I’d rather spend my money on a new system then the same system with year after year price increases.
I buy fifa every year for 80% off at the end of year. The rest of the games I buy a year are 50% off on random sales. I figure I can buy about 12 games a year for the same price as the subscription. I can’t actually finish 12 games a year. So I don’t know why I would subscribe.
The series S was Microsoft’s saving grace. They could have marketed the heck out of that thing and it would have been perfect in this economy. Instead they bailed on it far too early. Now they’re promoting expensive items in a recession. It just doesn’t make sense.
My one S gripe is it didn’t play Xbox one X enhanced games. That was a mistake. A big mistake.
I don’t even think Microsoft needs to make a new series. What they could have done was simply keep reducing the price of the S and the X. Let PC become the pro model.
I just want the only 4 player split screen call of duty (black ops 3) to be Xbox one x enhanced. I want to be able to escort a robot without a messy resolution.
I just don’t understand… does universal still send delorean a yearly check for back to the future? Why aren’t the deals tied to the games not to how long they sell a game. It seems product placement is handled completely different in the video game industry than anywhere else
I have no care for career or my pro or whatever. Just make the base game right then add on. So please do something about the presentation. This is insane.
Also last year they had limited time 3 on 3 hockey. Include that in the game forever instead of limited time and we’re good.
@somnambulance I spent this entire generation hacking the series X in developer mode to install Dreamcast Roms. Now I can just buy namco system 22 games on my switch. It’s time to ditch my Xbox for good. I will miss nfl blitz though.
The switch 2 is not only more expensive but if you want a pro controller it’s basically like buying a series X. The series S remains the best value in gaming.
@tho_mi you see how few tracks there are in Mario kart world and how barren the open world is…. Don’t kid yourself paid dlc is coming. It’s the Nintendo way.
@cragis0001 how would say Xbox be breaking laws if it went all digital. How is that any different than all my digital purchases off the apple App Store.
I just don’t know who would buy this when Microsoft is clearly going to port their games to the switch 2.
The only way tthis works is if it’s substantially more powerful but that will mean it’s substantially more expensive. And then I don’t know how this qualifies as a xbox series S successor.
@Runex2121 I think the price is fine if you’re an adult. But this is a lot to ask for a product to hand to kids. So yes it might be priced reasonably to other handhelds. But those handhelds aren’t targeting kids. That’s a big difference.
@Banjo- as a Nintendo fan I just kept thinking I play portable only 20% of the time. If there was any world that they would have made a switch 2 tv only console for the price of a series s I would have been there day one. Now who know.
All I do on a PC is word, excel and internet. I’m sure the current Xbox could run those things. The current Xbox is more powerful than a chrome book. So it’s just software which is what Microsoft does.
@Kaloudz is Xbox giving free PS codes to Xbox owners of the same games? No. So there are victims. Anyone who put all their money into Xbox ecosystem which will eventually die hardware wise while whomever bought the PS version will likely work on PS6. PS7. PS8…
The only reason Xbox is doing this is they are dead third and sacrificed this whole generation squiring Activision. If they thought they could sell Xbox’s by being exclusive that’s exactly what would have happened. It would have been preferable. Now we will witness the slow death of their hardware side.
Here is my prediction. When PlayStation 6 is announced. Xbox will announce theirs as well. But there’s will be like a series S. They will go after the affordability market and leave the premium options to PC and PS. Switch 2 just killed their portable plans. They can only make sales going affordable.
Black ops 3 is a crime. It’s running at 900p vs 1080p on PlayStation. It’s even more a crime that now Microsoft owns these games that they aren’t being Xbox one x enhanced. The only good thing Microsoft has done lately has stopped because of licensing even when they buy the licensing. Wth.
@somnambulance naw Phil doesn’t believe good games will sell systems. But half baked games Will apparently sell game pass. Phil also believed that people’s digital libraries were built up on the previous generation that there was no hope in this generation. Amazing you can say such things and keep your job. Talking about throwing in the white flag way too early. And it wasn’t like Xbox was getting beat bad early. How did a trillion dollar company not be able to make more Xbox’s during the pandemic than Sony also confuses me. People were begging to buy anything and Microsoft couldn’t make consoles and then when they did they upped the cost of both the consoles and the services. They spent the entire generation buying call of duty and when call of duty is played on PlayStation is there any advertisements before the game that it’s FREE on gp ultimate. Ugh. So many mistakes were made.
Xbox has a hard time spending money on marketing. Which is part of the systems failure. They can say all they want that they tried to get people to buy an Xbox but they spent so little marketing it’s pathetic. Now the remaining Xbox fans are basically all talking about leaving. They’re going to have to market to try and get new people in. It’s too bad the series consoles just didn’t get the love they deserved.
@RetroMan71 you are correct. That those of us migrating to PlayStation will still be giving Xbox our money. But we will be saving money not having to buy two boxes.
If enough people migrate won’t gp subs drop and then would it make sense to keep making Xbox consoles.
When I buy an Xbox first party game are they going to give me a free code to play it on PlayStation as well. Or do they want me to buy it in different places. They want me to buy it in different places I’ll just buy a ps6 and wave goodbye to the x.
@TeiGekiLord if Microsoft eventually stop selling platforms because of less people using it your library of games will then be stuck on your Xbox platform. That’s a problem. I buy 90% of my games digitally. I’d rather move on to Sony where I have at least a chance of playing my games well into the future.
This is a two way relationship. Sure I care about Xbox profitability. But if it means that Xbox will eventually cease to exist I’m taking my business elsewhere.
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Re: Rumour: Xbox Won't Announce Starfield For PS5 Until 2026, It's Claimed
They don’t need to announce it. Deep down we know. PlayStation fans know. It’s just a formality.
Re: Xbox President Explains Why Microsoft Ditched Its First-Party Handheld
@BaldB3lper78 well it’s likely to fail. So this was a good decision.
Re: Sarah Bond Shows Off Where Microsoft Is 'Prototyping For The Next Generation Of Xbox'
@SuntannedDuck2 If you just had a series X with the amd equivalent of DLSS it would go along way. I’m not convinced a system twice as expensive is going to be significantly better. There are diminishing returns. We’ve had a full generation to see them. Maybe it’s just a fluke. But we could all spend double the money next generation and find out nope that diminishing returns is a thing. I’d rather not do that.
Re: Sarah Bond Shows Off Where Microsoft Is 'Prototyping For The Next Generation Of Xbox'
@SalaciousCrumb you can just sell all your gaming stuff. Buy one Microsoft stock. And in two years you made your profit. Look how easy Xbox makes it.
Re: Sarah Bond Shows Off Where Microsoft Is 'Prototyping For The Next Generation Of Xbox'
So based on this video I’d think Apple TV and Apple Arcade is the future. You can play the games mobile, simple enough to play on Apple TV and cheap. But here we are going for the most expensive systems in the world and testing people’s wallet. I’m not their consumer since I don’t have trust and I can barely buy a digital game anymore without thinking that I’m essentially renting this until it all goes offline. But good luck trying to restore good will. Hey we lost the ps4 generation when everyone was building their libraries. And so let’s follow that up by going full nuclear with all our decisions on the series generation. Surely people will give us a third try. Third try is a charm after all.
Re: Sarah Bond Shows Off Where Microsoft Is 'Prototyping For The Next Generation Of Xbox'
I don’t know how a real win wouldnt simply to find a way to produce series X at half the price and onto store shelves. Name it series z for all I care. The important thing is getting these prices down.
Re: Xbox Journalist Says Latest Rumours Are 'A Huge Challenge For The Brand Right Now'
Removed
Re: Everwild Screenshots Leak Online Several Months After Xbox Cancellation
@RetroMan71 the persons owned xbox consoles for generations. They are allowed to have a negative view. And you shouldn’t want an echo chamber.
Re: Everwild Screenshots Leak Online Several Months After Xbox Cancellation
@RetroMan71 you can mock but these threads are looking ghost town ish. And the staff will likely be getting moved or laid off as a result which will further the end of this site.
Re: New Rumours Suggest PS6 & Next-Gen Xbox Could Both Release In 2027
@Deljo RROD
Re: New Rumours Suggest PS6 & Next-Gen Xbox Could Both Release In 2027
I can understand some people think 2027 is close. But if the console prices aren’t going to drop then I’d rather spend my money on a new system then the same system with year after year price increases.
Re: Xbox Issues Statement Denying Rumour That Next-Gen Console Could Be Cancelled
@darylb24 actions over words my friend
Re: Xbox Fan Shares Their Concept For A Game Pass 'Select' Plan With Optional Add-Ons
I buy fifa every year for 80% off at the end of year. The rest of the games I buy a year are 50% off on random sales. I figure I can buy about 12 games a year for the same price as the subscription. I can’t actually finish 12 games a year. So I don’t know why I would subscribe.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally Prices Finally Revealed, Pre-Orders Now Live
This is going to bomb and make Sony and Microsoft rethink this strategy.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally Spotted With Price And 'Pre-Order Now' Banner At UK Retailer
The series S was Microsoft’s saving grace. They could have marketed the heck out of that thing and it would have been perfect in this economy. Instead they bailed on it far too early. Now they’re promoting expensive items in a recession. It just doesn’t make sense.
My one S gripe is it didn’t play Xbox one X enhanced games. That was a mistake. A big mistake.
I don’t even think Microsoft needs to make a new series. What they could have done was simply keep reducing the price of the S and the X. Let PC become the pro model.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Again Talking About All The Microsoft Games Missing From Game Pass
I just want the only 4 player split screen call of duty (black ops 3) to be Xbox one x enhanced. I want to be able to escort a robot without a messy resolution.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Again Talking About All The Microsoft Games Missing From Game Pass
I just don’t understand… does universal still send delorean a yearly check for back to the future? Why aren’t the deals tied to the games not to how long they sell a game. It seems product placement is handled completely different in the video game industry than anywhere else
Re: Talking Point: So, Is Hollow Knight: Silksong Worth The Hype On Xbox Game Pass?
@CapeCityOne I don’t have game pass and I only buy games.
Re: Review: NHL 26 - The Best Hockey Game Of The Xbox Series X|S Generation, Despite Feeling Overly Familiar
I have no care for career or my pro or whatever. Just make the base game right then add on. So please do something about the presentation. This is insane.
Also last year they had limited time 3 on 3 hockey. Include that in the game forever instead of limited time and we’re good.
Re: Microsoft 'Wraps Up' Xbox Series X|S Era As Hardware Chief Teases What's Next
@somnambulance I spent this entire generation hacking the series X in developer mode to install Dreamcast Roms. Now I can just buy namco system 22 games on my switch. It’s time to ditch my Xbox for good. I will miss nfl blitz though.
Re: Report: Microsoft Has No Plans To Bring Black Ops 7 To Switch 2 At Launch
@EdgarTheBug with system link and split screen
Re: Talking Point: It's Been Two Years Since A Defining Moment In The History Of Xbox
Still the best way to play black ops 3 is on PlayStation. At least it’s 1080p there. I can’t believe these games weren’t enhanced. What a waste.
Re: Xbox Series S Compared To Switch 2 In Hogwarts Legacy Analysis, And The Results Are Surprising
The switch 2 is not only more expensive but if you want a pro controller it’s basically like buying a series X. The series S remains the best value in gaming.
Re: Hellblade 2 Will Remain At 30FPS On Xbox Series S, Reveals Microsoft
This thing is still a deal if you’re a tv user in comparison to the switch 2.
Re: Opinion: The Best Call Of Duty Of The Xbox One Era Hits Game Pass Later This Month
Black ops 3 is by far the best Xbox one era call of duties. It has four player split screen and the best zombie maps.
Re: 2K Not Following Microsoft & Nintendo With $80 Game Prices, For Now
@tho_mi you see how few tracks there are in Mario kart world and how barren the open world is…. Don’t kid yourself paid dlc is coming. It’s the Nintendo way.
Re: Forza On PS5 Has 'Easily' Made $100 Million For Xbox, Says Analyst
These profits just don’t seem that much considering it is basically killing the Xbox system in the process.
It’s not like Microsoft is broke.
Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Buying The 2025 Xbox Handheld From ASUS?
I don’t know why there is NO POLL!!!!!!
But let me summarize. 60 replies. 2 maybes. 3 Yes. 55 No’s.
Smh. This is a terrible idea and will only sink Xbox further.
Re: Xbox's 2027 Handheld Expected To Include Nintendo Switch-Like Docking System
@cragis0001 how would say Xbox be breaking laws if it went all digital. How is that any different than all my digital purchases off the apple App Store.
Re: Xbox's 2027 Handheld Expected To Include Nintendo Switch-Like Docking System
I just don’t know who would buy this when Microsoft is clearly going to port their games to the switch 2.
The only way tthis works is if it’s substantially more powerful but that will mean it’s substantially more expensive. And then I don’t know how this qualifies as a xbox series S successor.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Feel You've Had Value For Money With Your Xbox Series X|S?
Mine goes straight into developer mode where it’s used as a 4k Dreamcast. This is not what I bought it for but what can you do.
Re: Metro 2033 Redux Gets 100% Discount On Xbox To Celebrate Anniversary
I can’t wait for the Nintendo anniversary sale.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Expect Xbox To Follow PlayStation With More Console Price Hikes?
If there’s a price increase im selling my systems on marketplace. It’s time to move on from this system.
Re: Switch 2 Fares Well Against Xbox Series S In Street Fighter 6 Comparison
@Millionski you have to add a pro controller cost to get to have a fair comparison with a series s. That’s a problem.
Re: Former Xbox Exec Throws Shade At Switch 2, Says It's A 'Hard Pass'
@Runex2121 I think the price is fine if you’re an adult. But this is a lot to ask for a product to hand to kids. So yes it might be priced reasonably to other handhelds. But those handhelds aren’t targeting kids. That’s a big difference.
Re: Former Xbox Exec Throws Shade At Switch 2, Says It's A 'Hard Pass'
@Banjo- as a Nintendo fan I just kept thinking I play portable only 20% of the time. If there was any world that they would have made a switch 2 tv only console for the price of a series s I would have been there day one. Now who know.
Re: Xbox Reporter 'Pretty Sure' New Console Is Set To Launch In 2027
All I do on a PC is word, excel and internet. I’m sure the current Xbox could run those things. The current Xbox is more powerful than a chrome book. So it’s just software which is what Microsoft does.
Re: CoD Leaker Doubles Down On Belief That Xbox's Next Console Will Arrive In 2026
@dreadful people are depressing. Christmas 2026 is a year and a half away.
Re: CoD Leaker Doubles Down On Belief That Xbox's Next Console Will Arrive In 2026
@themightyant biggest tech leap is just marketing. I don’t think anyone should hold out for that.
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
@Kaloudz is Xbox giving free PS codes to Xbox owners of the same games? No. So there are victims. Anyone who put all their money into Xbox ecosystem which will eventually die hardware wise while whomever bought the PS version will likely work on PS6. PS7. PS8…
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
The only reason Xbox is doing this is they are dead third and sacrificed this whole generation squiring Activision. If they thought they could sell Xbox’s by being exclusive that’s exactly what would have happened. It would have been preferable. Now we will witness the slow death of their hardware side.
Here is my prediction. When PlayStation 6 is announced. Xbox will announce theirs as well. But there’s will be like a series S. They will go after the affordability market and leave the premium options to PC and PS. Switch 2 just killed their portable plans. They can only make sales going affordable.
Re: Four More Call Of Duty Titles Seemingly Being Prepared For Xbox Game Pass
Black ops 3 is a crime. It’s running at 900p vs 1080p on PlayStation. It’s even more a crime that now Microsoft owns these games that they aren’t being Xbox one x enhanced. The only good thing Microsoft has done lately has stopped because of licensing even when they buy the licensing. Wth.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@abe_hikura and I would be waiting a while playing Sony games I have never played while waiting for those Xbox games to hit the bargain bin.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@somnambulance naw Phil doesn’t believe good games will sell systems. But half baked games Will apparently sell game pass. Phil also believed that people’s digital libraries were built up on the previous generation that there was no hope in this generation. Amazing you can say such things and keep your job. Talking about throwing in the white flag way too early. And it wasn’t like Xbox was getting beat bad early. How did a trillion dollar company not be able to make more Xbox’s during the pandemic than Sony also confuses me. People were begging to buy anything and Microsoft couldn’t make consoles and then when they did they upped the cost of both the consoles and the services. They spent the entire generation buying call of duty and when call of duty is played on PlayStation is there any advertisements before the game that it’s FREE on gp ultimate. Ugh. So many mistakes were made.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
Xbox has a hard time spending money on marketing. Which is part of the systems failure. They can say all they want that they tried to get people to buy an Xbox but they spent so little marketing it’s pathetic. Now the remaining Xbox fans are basically all talking about leaving. They’re going to have to market to try and get new people in. It’s too bad the series consoles just didn’t get the love they deserved.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
@RetroMan71 you are correct. That those of us migrating to PlayStation will still be giving Xbox our money. But we will be saving money not having to buy two boxes.
If enough people migrate won’t gp subs drop and then would it make sense to keep making Xbox consoles.
Re: Microsoft CEO: 'We Are Redefining What It Means To Be An Xbox Fan'
When I buy an Xbox first party game are they going to give me a free code to play it on PlayStation as well. Or do they want me to buy it in different places. They want me to buy it in different places I’ll just buy a ps6 and wave goodbye to the x.
Re: Xbox Reporter Says That Microsoft 'Won't Have Exclusives Going Forward'
@TeiGekiLord if Microsoft eventually stop selling platforms because of less people using it your library of games will then be stuck on your Xbox platform. That’s a problem. I buy 90% of my games digitally. I’d rather move on to Sony where I have at least a chance of playing my games well into the future.
This is a two way relationship. Sure I care about Xbox profitability. But if it means that Xbox will eventually cease to exist I’m taking my business elsewhere.
Re: Three Call Of Duty Classics Could Be Heading To Xbox Game Pass Soon
Xbox one x enhance them please and thank you!!!!
Re: Surprise! Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled Drifts Onto Xbox Game Pass This Week
Would be nice if they got these games up to 4K via the backward compat program