@Weebleman Thanks for that, really appreciate the additional context. If PC is the main growth in the sector, maybe making a hybrid pc/xbox will end up being a good idea?
Not sure myself, still find it hard to wrap my head around it all, until we get official details of exactly what it is, if it happens (its obviously just rumours at the moment)
@Weebleman Xbox and PC use the same API, which is why porting a game from PC to xbox is quicker and cheaper than pc to ps5, but I understand your point about reach
I am not sure we will ever have the full answer, but its an interesting question for sure, as 40% still seems low to me, but I could be wrong
@Weebleman I mean its supposed to be pretty easy/simple to convert a game from windows to xbox (or so I have read) Thats why some games that are PC only, come to console on xbox first, because its quicker to port.
I do agree with your explanation somewhat, but it still seems low to me (just a personal opinion, it could have historically always been like that, i am not sure)
This is asking individual employees and not studios remember, some of the big studios have hundreds/thousands of employees, I am not sure all the small indie games actually are the full answer
I watched stonemountain play on launch and came away with 1 question. Who's idea was it to make the maps so big you can use a mount on them, but only put 3 enemies on the map. Such a bad design decision
@FraserG There is only 1 small sentence at the end that even mentions Gamepass at all, so saying they target it is quite the stretch, but I do somewhat understand your point, even if i dont agree with it. Just seems like a clickbait title to be honest with you
@Fiendish-Beaver there was a report a few months ago that they get their sales estimates by counting the number of user reviews on a platform and multiplying them by their "in house algorithm" which is obviously just a big pile of rubbish.
No idea how they get the estimates for daily active user on xbox, but I guess they just close their eyes and point to some random numbers on a piece of paper, as none of the information is available or quoted by anyone else anywhere.
I'm sure they just make up numbers for publicity if I was honest.
Read "Alinea Analytics" and instantly knew this was inaccurate reporting. They have absolutely no way of knowing how many people are playing Fallout on Xbox daily
@Fiendish-Beaver "In all honesty, decline would mean that Sony is selling fewer consoles, but when compared to the PS4, they are not far behind at all"
If they are behind the PS4 as you say, isn't that a decline? Sentance is very confusing
@oopsiezz "With Fable releasing the same day on PS5 as it is PC & Xbox, we will be seeing a lot more Xbox games releasing day one on PS5"
Fable hasn't even been announced for PS5 yet, let alone day one, but there is rumours that the PS5 version will be announced at the developer direct, we will have to wait and see if they come true
@themightyant "The key driver behind 2025's growth was an 8.8% increase in revenue from mobile titles, which brought in £1.88 billion for the period, building on a 5.5% rise between 2023 and 2024. Mobile revenue was behind 35.5% of the total for games last year."
@MrStark well said. Its one of the reasons I basically stopped posting on here and pushsquare. The agenda driven bs posted on both sides is just too much and you cant actually have a useful conversation without the doom posters in every single article spreading baseless nonsense ad nauseum. Even when they are presented facts they go down the whole "I don't believe them" route to continue spreading their agenda. Its just boring.
@jFug I mean technically all 3 party terms are made up, but nobody thinks games like Ronin, Stellar Blade, Detroit or Heavy Rain are first party, because they were not developed by a first party, that much is obvious.
Just like nobody thinks Ori or STALKER 2 is a first party title, because it was developed by a 3rd party.
They are exclusives (or they were at one point) but that does not make them first party games.
Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin, and Concord are all 1st party, AAA games coming this year to PS5.
All of those games are Sony-published which equals 1st party.
First party refers to developers that are owned by the company responsible for the console.
Rise of Ronin and Stellar Blade are not first party games, they are second party games. Second Party refers to individual companies taking exclusive contracts from platform holders
I am really looking forward to Ronin for what its worth and Team Ninja are arguably my favourite developer
Games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta that were games first with top level gameplay.
It was not about production values or mo cap or drama school scripts, it was about making an awesome game and alot of the games from the 360 era still have not been topped from a gameplay perspective.
@Sol4ris I could have guessed who the main commenters on this article would be before I even opened it. PureXbox is the home of concern trolling. The Alien guy is always here like clockwork, along with several others (we used to have the train guy, the shadow guy, the snakev5 guy and several others that are still here religiously)
It is exhausting to read as a multiplatform gamer who enjoys all the consoles and is one of the reasons why I have decided to use PureXbox less and less
I prefer 60, but 30 is OK if it's consistent and properly frame paced. Consistency is king.
This no man's land framerate is horrible to play and look at and I will not reward the devs or publishers for making such a poor decision.
If people stopped buying games that release in a mess, maybe we could finally get games that release when they are ready from a content and technical perspective.
I loved the original Dragons Dogma and the Dark Arisen dlc, but until this is fixed, I will be voting with my wallet.
Hopefully Rise of the Ronin is better as I am really looking forward to that game later this month and will play that instead
My son and daughter are both so excited to play this. It's great having some kids games on gamepass as it saves me spending money on games like this, and I have more for the games I enjoy (that sounds so selfish)
Gamepass continues to deliver for me, alot to look forward to. I enjoyed that more than their last partner showcase, but really i am more excited for the Summer Shows from all the platforms to see the bigger stuff.
Kunitsu-Gami probably my favourite if I had to pick one
The uncapped framerate averaging 31fps is a deal breaker for me, and I own a VRR TV. That sort of no man's land framerate is awful to play and looks horrific
Consistency is king and they need to offer a properly frame paced 30fps cap or I won't bother wasting my time on such a technical mess and I loved the original and the Dark Arisen dlc.
I am not rewarding them for their incompetence and would prefer to send the dev and publisher a clear message that this kind of framerate is unacceptable.
I hope the folks at London Studio, Firesprite, Insomniac, Naughty Dog and Guerilla (and anyone else effected that we do not know about) land on their feet quickly in this difficult time.
But it was expected after their last financial results, sadly the writing was on the wall.
Best of luck to everyone effected and thank you for the gaming memories.
On Playstation i just finished Death Stranding Directors Cut, loved the story and the ending was really interesting. Enjoyed it alot more than I thought I would. Now playing Kena from ps extra after recently resubscribing due to a 59% discount offered by Sony.
On Xbox I am playing Tomb Raider Remastered. Just finished tomb of khamoon in TR1, up to Opera House in TR2 and finished the jungle first level in TR3. Really enjoying the nostalgia trip and the games still hold up today
@Zenszulu as part of the FTC trial it was confirmed cod will join gamepass when the Sony marketing contract runs out, either this year or next I forget.
Really enjoying the remaster so far. Got it on Sunday and finished the first 3 levels of Tomb Raider 1 and finished the first 2 levels of tomb raider 2 (great wall and venice) venice was more confusing than I remember!
Such nostalgia. And really great games.
Maybe it's because of my past experience, but the tank controls are perfectly fine. I actually prefer them to the modern control scheme for these games!
Going to get on with some more tomb raiding tonight when the little ones go to bed.
Death Stranding Directors Cut. Made it to edge knot city and just defeated the big BT. Think its act 10 or possibly 9? The story is very interesting and I have even found the gameplay fun. It may be a walking sim kind of, but I have enjoyed it none the less. Especially the firing range its been fun getting the S rank on them all.
Think my next game will either the MGS collection or the tomb raider collection. Which one would people recommend playing first as I like both of the series
@Kaloudz I for one would appreciate your continued input on the site, however if you feel unable to for whatever reason, I wish you the best of luck in the future.
I have enjoyed your contribution to this community and feel your input (wether I agree with it or not) will be missed.
We all disagree from time to time, and have different opinions, but we should not lose sight of the fact we are all just gamers trying to share our love for our favourite hobby
That was the overriding feeling I got reading this article to be honest with you. Will there be more games? More than likely. Will it be everything? Probably not. Will they launch day and date multiplatform games? Absolutely.
Phil refusing to reveal the four games that are going to other consoles
I am sure they will be announced when the developers are ready? I am not sure why so many are reading so much into this.
Some of the articles from Purexbox and Pushsquare have been baffling yesterday and today. And it's clear some commenters only heard what they wanted to hear yesterday.
I still think it's cool I can insert my ninja gaiden discs I purchased all of those years ago, and they work on the series x and play better than ever. (Ninja Gaiden for life!) Yes I know its not running off the disc, but the end result is the same.
I hope the Switch 2 is physically BC, as every switch game I have is physical and I am really looking forward to the Switch 2. But who knows as Nintendo always like to Nintendo.
If only xbox would add JSRF to the BC list I could finally stop asking every, single, showcase.
As a subscriber i was happy that day 1 will continue and we will start to see some abk content hit the service, even if I am not really that interested in Diablo personally
If I had to guess, I would suggest a mixture of full exclusives, timed exclusives for a year and some multiplatform day and date releases will be their future plans, if the initial 4 games are somewhat sucessful.
@Cikajovazmaj When not running a game, my series x gets 300-350mbps, my ps5 gets about 150-190mbps. Both on the same 350mbps fibre connection and both using the same brand of CAT 8 cable.
The switch is noticeably slower still but that is wireless as I have the launch model without the ethernet port in the dock. Don't think I have ever got above 65mbps from my Switch, which is one of the reasons why I never buy games online for it and always buy physical
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Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
@Weebleman I was looking at it from a consumer point of view more than if it was a good idea for Xbox or not.
If i was to buy the next xbox/pc hybrid thing, i would more than likely use Steam as my main store and just use the xbox side for gamepass.
Anyway thanks for all the additional information, was really helpful
Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
@Weebleman Thanks for that, really appreciate the additional context. If PC is the main growth in the sector, maybe making a hybrid pc/xbox will end up being a good idea?
Not sure myself, still find it hard to wrap my head around it all, until we get official details of exactly what it is, if it happens (its obviously just rumours at the moment)
Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
@Weebleman Xbox and PC use the same API, which is why porting a game from PC to xbox is quicker and cheaper than pc to ps5, but I understand your point about reach
I am not sure we will ever have the full answer, but its an interesting question for sure, as 40% still seems low to me, but I could be wrong
Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
@Weebleman I mean its supposed to be pretty easy/simple to convert a game from windows to xbox (or so I have read) Thats why some games that are PC only, come to console on xbox first, because its quicker to port.
I do agree with your explanation somewhat, but it still seems low to me (just a personal opinion, it could have historically always been like that, i am not sure)
This is asking individual employees and not studios remember, some of the big studios have hundreds/thousands of employees, I am not sure all the small indie games actually are the full answer
Re: Xbox Series X|S Ranked 5th In List Of Platforms Developers Are Most Interested In
Is it normal that less than half of developers surveyed want to make a game for any console? That seems kind of low to me? Or is that normal?
Re: Hands On: Highguard Feels Smooth & Solid On Xbox, But Desperately Needs More Ways To Play
I watched stonemountain play on launch and came away with 1 question. Who's idea was it to make the maps so big you can use a mount on them, but only put 3 enemies on the map. Such a bad design decision
Re: Forza Horizon 6's Controversial Game Pass Upgrade Costs As Much As The Game Itself
@FraserG Should read "Forza Horizon 6's Controversial Premium Upgrade Costs As Much As The Game Itself" as that is what is it, a premium upgrade.
Why lean into something that isn't strictly true? As it just causes confusion for your readers
When I initially read the title i thought you had to upgrade from Gamepass ultimate to even play the game at all
Re: Forza Horizon 6's Controversial Game Pass Upgrade Costs As Much As The Game Itself
@FraserG There is only 1 small sentence at the end that even mentions Gamepass at all, so saying they target it is quite the stretch, but I do somewhat understand your point, even if i dont agree with it. Just seems like a clickbait title to be honest with you
Re: Forza Horizon 6's Controversial Game Pass Upgrade Costs As Much As The Game Itself
The title says "game pass upgrade" but its not a gamepass specific upgrade, its an upgrade for the standard or deluxe editions of the game.
I never buy upgrades and very rarely buy DLC, so its of no interest to me at all
Re: Fable Showcases Stunning Gameplay Deep Dive, Arrives On Xbox, PC & PS5 Later This Year
Can't wait to get married, buy all the houses and make the whole town homeless (including my wife!)
....and kick a chicken
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade 2026's Xbox Developer Direct?
I'd grade it an A as I love the format and the way they show off the games. Not really interested in Kiln though.
Thanks to everyone in the live chat for the banter, was good fun!
Re: Bethesda's Fallout Resurgence Is In Full Swing As FO4 Hits Almost 100K Daily Players On Xbox
@Fiendish-Beaver there was a report a few months ago that they get their sales estimates by counting the number of user reviews on a platform and multiplying them by their "in house algorithm" which is obviously just a big pile of rubbish.
No idea how they get the estimates for daily active user on xbox, but I guess they just close their eyes and point to some random numbers on a piece of paper, as none of the information is available or quoted by anyone else anywhere.
I'm sure they just make up numbers for publicity if I was honest.
Re: Bethesda's Fallout Resurgence Is In Full Swing As FO4 Hits Almost 100K Daily Players On Xbox
Read "Alinea Analytics" and instantly knew this was inaccurate reporting.
They have absolutely no way of knowing how many people are playing Fallout on Xbox daily
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Hits Huge Sales Milestone In Its First Year On PS5, According To New Estimates
@Fiendish-Beaver "In all honesty, decline would mean that Sony is selling fewer consoles, but when compared to the PS4, they are not far behind at all"
If they are behind the PS4 as you say, isn't that a decline? Sentance is very confusing
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Hits Huge Sales Milestone In Its First Year On PS5, According To New Estimates
@oopsiezz "With Fable releasing the same day on PS5 as it is PC & Xbox, we will be seeing a lot more Xbox games releasing day one on PS5"
Fable hasn't even been announced for PS5 yet, let alone day one, but there is rumours that the PS5 version will be announced at the developer direct, we will have to wait and see if they come true
Re: The UK Games Industry Had Its Biggest Year Since 2020 Last Year
@themightyant "The key driver behind 2025's growth was an 8.8% increase in revenue from mobile titles, which brought in £1.88 billion for the period, building on a 5.5% rise between 2023 and 2024. Mobile revenue was behind 35.5% of the total for games last year."
That is what the article states
Re: Talking Point: How Much Would You Be Willing To Spend On The Next Xbox Console?
Without knowing what the next gen consoles will offer, it's impossible to say. This should be asked once they are announced, surely
Re: Talking Point: How Much Time Have You Spent Gaming On Xbox Consoles This Year?
Switch 2 - 70%
Series X - 15% (Gamepass)
PC - 10% (Ultima online)
PS5 - 5%
Re: Poll: How Much Are You Enjoying Ninja Gaiden 4 On Xbox Game Pass?
as a ninja gaiden fanatic its been superb. Best one since Ninja Gaiden 2 on the xbox 360 (The signma version of 2 is trash)
Re: Rumour: Xbox Won't Announce Starfield For PS5 Until 2026, It's Claimed
This guy has been saying this every year for 2 years now. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day
Re: Xbox Journalist Says Latest Rumours Are 'A Huge Challenge For The Brand Right Now'
@Banjo- trust me, you are not the only person to notice this. We all know who they are.
Re: Xbox Journalist Says Latest Rumours Are 'A Huge Challenge For The Brand Right Now'
@MrStark well said. Its one of the reasons I basically stopped posting on here and pushsquare. The agenda driven bs posted on both sides is just too much and you cant actually have a useful conversation without the doom posters in every single article spreading baseless nonsense ad nauseum. Even when they are presented facts they go down the whole "I don't believe them" route to continue spreading their agenda. Its just boring.
Re: Gears Of War Creator Thinks 'The More, The Merrier' In Regards To Getting Gears On PS5
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Re: Xbox's Sea Of Thieves Becomes 'Best-Selling' Pre-Order On PlayStation 5
@jFug I mean technically all 3 party terms are made up, but nobody thinks games like Ronin, Stellar Blade, Detroit or Heavy Rain are first party, because they were not developed by a first party, that much is obvious.
Just like nobody thinks Ori or STALKER 2 is a first party title, because it was developed by a 3rd party.
They are exclusives (or they were at one point) but that does not make them first party games.
Re: Xbox's Sea Of Thieves Becomes 'Best-Selling' Pre-Order On PlayStation 5
@jFug
First party refers to developers that are owned by the company responsible for the console.
Rise of Ronin and Stellar Blade are not first party games, they are second party games. Second Party refers to individual companies taking exclusive contracts from platform holders
I am really looking forward to Ronin for what its worth and Team Ninja are arguably my favourite developer
Re: Talking Point: In Your Opinion, What Made The Xbox 360 Era So Incredible?
Games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta that were games first with top level gameplay.
It was not about production values or mo cap or drama school scripts, it was about making an awesome game and alot of the games from the 360 era still have not been topped from a gameplay perspective.
Re: Xbox's Sea Of Thieves Becomes 'Best-Selling' Pre-Order On PlayStation 5
@Sol4ris I could have guessed who the main commenters on this article would be before I even opened it. PureXbox is the home of concern trolling. The Alien guy is always here like clockwork, along with several others (we used to have the train guy, the shadow guy, the snakev5 guy and several others that are still here religiously)
It is exhausting to read as a multiplatform gamer who enjoys all the consoles and is one of the reasons why I have decided to use PureXbox less and less
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Launches With Uncapped 30FPS Performance On Xbox
I prefer 60, but 30 is OK if it's consistent and properly frame paced. Consistency is king.
This no man's land framerate is horrible to play and look at and I will not reward the devs or publishers for making such a poor decision.
If people stopped buying games that release in a mess, maybe we could finally get games that release when they are ready from a content and technical perspective.
I loved the original Dragons Dogma and the Dark Arisen dlc, but until this is fixed, I will be voting with my wallet.
Hopefully Rise of the Ronin is better as I am really looking forward to that game later this month and will play that instead
Re: PAW Patrol World Is Available Today With Xbox Game Pass (March 7)
My son and daughter are both so excited to play this. It's great having some kids games on gamepass as it saves me spending money on games like this, and I have more for the games I enjoy (that sounds so selfish)
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade March's Xbox Partner Preview Showcase?
Gamepass continues to deliver for me, alot to look forward to. I enjoyed that more than their last partner showcase, but really i am more excited for the Summer Shows from all the platforms to see the bigger stuff.
Kunitsu-Gami probably my favourite if I had to pick one
Re: Reaction: 'TimeSplitters: Next' Gameplay Leak Makes Us Crave A More Traditional Sequel
I don't mean to sound harsh but that looks absolutely awful and it's no suprise it was cancelled.
That is not Timesplitters, at all. What were they thinking
Re: Roundup: Dragon's Dogma 2 Impresses In Final Previews Ahead Of Xbox Launch
The uncapped framerate averaging 31fps is a deal breaker for me, and I own a VRR TV. That sort of no man's land framerate is awful to play and looks horrific
Consistency is king and they need to offer a properly frame paced 30fps cap or I won't bother wasting my time on such a technical mess and I loved the original and the Dark Arisen dlc.
I am not rewarding them for their incompetence and would prefer to send the dev and publisher a clear message that this kind of framerate is unacceptable.
Re: PlayStation Follows Xbox In Announcing Significant Layoffs For 2024
I hope the folks at London Studio, Firesprite, Insomniac, Naughty Dog and Guerilla (and anyone else effected that we do not know about) land on their feet quickly in this difficult time.
But it was expected after their last financial results, sadly the writing was on the wall.
Best of luck to everyone effected and thank you for the gaming memories.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 24-25)
On Playstation i just finished Death Stranding Directors Cut, loved the story and the ending was really interesting. Enjoyed it alot more than I thought I would. Now playing Kena from ps extra after recently resubscribing due to a 59% discount offered by Sony.
On Xbox I am playing Tomb Raider Remastered. Just finished tomb of khamoon in TR1, up to Opera House in TR2 and finished the jungle first level in TR3. Really enjoying the nostalgia trip and the games still hold up today
Re: Palworld Hits Ridiculous Player Milestone In Just One Month On Xbox & PC
Not my kind of game and have not played it, but the wife wants to play it some day. I would be suprised if there was a bigger suprise hit all year
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Is Making Its Way To PlayStation 5 Next Month
Switch 2 launch title?
Re: Xbox Reiterates It's Bringing Activision Blizzard's 'Full Portfolio' To Game Pass
@Zenszulu as part of the FTC trial it was confirmed cod will join gamepass when the Sony marketing contract runs out, either this year or next I forget.
What you said is not correct
Re: Tomb Raider Fans Spot 'The Last Revelation' Teaser In 1-3 Remastered
Really enjoying the remaster so far. Got it on Sunday and finished the first 3 levels of Tomb Raider 1 and finished the first 2 levels of tomb raider 2 (great wall and venice) venice was more confusing than I remember!
Such nostalgia. And really great games.
Maybe it's because of my past experience, but the tank controls are perfectly fine. I actually prefer them to the modern control scheme for these games!
Going to get on with some more tomb raiding tonight when the little ones go to bed.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 17-18)
Death Stranding Directors Cut. Made it to edge knot city and just defeated the big BT. Think its act 10 or possibly 9? The story is very interesting and I have even found the gameplay fun. It may be a walking sim kind of, but I have enjoyed it none the less. Especially the firing range its been fun getting the S rank on them all.
Think my next game will either the MGS collection or the tomb raider collection. Which one would people recommend playing first as I like both of the series
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Commitment To Console Gaming Is Pleasing, But Big Questions Linger
@Kaloudz I for one would appreciate your continued input on the site, however if you feel unable to for whatever reason, I wish you the best of luck in the future.
I have enjoyed your contribution to this community and feel your input (wether I agree with it or not) will be missed.
We all disagree from time to time, and have different opinions, but we should not lose sight of the fact we are all just gamers trying to share our love for our favourite hobby
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Commitment To Console Gaming Is Pleasing, But Big Questions Linger
That was the overriding feeling I got reading this article to be honest with you. Will there be more games? More than likely. Will it be everything? Probably not. Will they launch day and date multiplatform games? Absolutely.
I am sure they will be announced when the developers are ready? I am not sure why so many are reading so much into this.
Some of the articles from Purexbox and Pushsquare have been baffling yesterday and today. And it's clear some commenters only heard what they wanted to hear yesterday.
@RadioHedgeFund
This was a little snippet about xcloud on ios from yesterday's interview if it helps.
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1758266064687759791/photo/1
Re: Xbox Talks Game Preservation, Says Players Should Be 'Confident' Building Digital Libraries
I still think it's cool I can insert my ninja gaiden discs I purchased all of those years ago, and they work on the series x and play better than ever. (Ninja Gaiden for life!) Yes I know its not running off the disc, but the end result is the same.
I hope the Switch 2 is physically BC, as every switch game I have is physical and I am really looking forward to the Switch 2. But who knows as Nintendo always like to Nintendo.
If only xbox would add JSRF to the BC list I could finally stop asking every, single, showcase.
Re: Game Pass Hits 34 Million Subs, Service Will Remain Exclusive To Xbox
As a subscriber i was happy that day 1 will continue and we will start to see some abk content hit the service, even if I am not really that interested in Diablo personally
Re: Xbox Team 'Excited' And Wants To 'Learn' From Bringing Games To Other Platforms
If I had to guess, I would suggest a mixture of full exclusives, timed exclusives for a year and some multiplatform day and date releases will be their future plans, if the initial 4 games are somewhat sucessful.
Re: Xbox's Next Console Will Feature The 'Largest Technical Leap Ever' In A Generation
That sounds like AI and ML will be a big part of the next generation to me. Makes sense as that's where PC has been for a little while
Re: Talking Point: Are There Any OG Xbox Remasters You're Dying To See On Series X|S?
I say it every year around E3 time.....JSRF
Re: New Xbox Update Makes More Improvements To Installation Speeds
@Cikajovazmaj When not running a game, my series x gets 300-350mbps, my ps5 gets about 150-190mbps. Both on the same 350mbps fibre connection and both using the same brand of CAT 8 cable.
The switch is noticeably slower still but that is wireless as I have the launch model without the ethernet port in the dock. Don't think I have ever got above 65mbps from my Switch, which is one of the reasons why I never buy games online for it and always buy physical