The reason Nintendo were left off is because the cma and ftc have both argued in their investigations that nintendo is not part of the "high spec console market" This definition of the market has been pushed by them. If anyone actually agrees with that, is another story entirely
As some of you may know by now I'm a ninja gaiden fanatic, so I have my eye on wanted dead. Not sure if il play it before or after wo long. Could be a great few weeks for me
The most obvious and cost effective solution for all parties involved would of been to settle this with some multiplayer COD. 6v6 MS/ABK v EU/CMA/FTC on Terminal. Top execs from each. Could have been part of the Developer Direct
@stvevan kotick confirmed in his interview they are not talking to MS or ABK.
"It's funny, Sony is not on the phone to us. In fact, they are not returning our phone calls. And so... I think one of the things that are surprising to us is, this is the time ordinarily we would be talking about the future and new opportunities together for partnership, and they just haven't been returning our phone calls. And so, I don't know that we're as valuable as they maybe have represented to the regulators that we are."
It's up to Microsoft now. They have the EU and UKs concerns, now it's all on them to come up with an agreement that suits the EU and CMA, whether that's structural or behavioural. If they do that, they can present the concessions to the FTC and close in the summer. Or they could close anyway without the FTC, as I think they have mentioned. Fail to reach an agreement with the eu/cma before the end of April and it's pretty much dead in my opinion. But I could be wrong
An important detail is that the 10year offer to steam/nintendo was not considered at the phase 2 stage, and the cma states that would be considered in the next remedies phase which begins now.
I have tried reading the report and it's just really confusing. They list 3 structural remedies, but then mention that behavioural remedies may also be possible later in the report.
I think it's just a 'wait until the end of April and see' kind of situation as MS statement doesn't seem to indicate they are dropping the deal just yet
Goldeneye. Finished it on 00 agent, only aztec/egyptian left to complete. Got all the speedrun cheats done aswell so far. Facility took a while due to bad rng and archives was surprisingly easier than I remembered.
Made it up to Statue last night, had a good time. Amazing how well I remember some of the levels. Alot of memories flooding back. Il be playing some more campaign later and enjoying the nostalgia
I liked the format but in my opinion they really need a firm release date for every game shown or don't show it at developer direct yet. That's what E3 is for, the bigger, looser announcements
The times me and my friends would play goldeneye and later perfect dark huddled around a small TV are some of my most favourite gaming memories from that period. Even the music just brings it all flooding back. I look forward to the nostalgia trip
Just like me and a few others were saying in the previous threads. It's crazy the expectations people still have when they announced what they would be doing from the very start. Its the developers showing off the games, it's not a state of play or an e3, and was never meant to be. They already announced the games up until the summer, so I fully expect their next big show or announcements to be around E3, same as always
I do not agree with the price rise, just like I don't with other publishers. The only thing softening the blow is gamepass, offering people a choice, but I still don't think it completely shields them from critisism. As a father of 2 children I just can't justify £70 games, and will just wait for price drops or the games to drop on subscription. On a personal level I would prefer they drop some of the needless production values and lower the cost of making the games. Gameplay is king
@lechugajr people are setting themselves up for major dissapointment in my opinion. This is not an e3 style show and was never meant to be, it's a developer direct focused on those 4 games, like they announced. People's imagination is going wild, despite MS telling them what to expect. It's quite literally in the name
I wouldn't expect much apart from deeper looks at the 4 games announced with the show. I think it's supposed to be the developer showing off those games as they release soon and a couple of release dates. I don't think it's going to be like a Nintendo direct or similar.
I'm just glad ID will continue to make their own games like Doom and Quake and not shoehorned onto Halo. I really like their games and it would suck to loose them. But maybe they could support studio with 343 or something, a bit like the coalition helping undead labs maybe?
People have been relentlessly calling out MS for restructure at MS game studios, and now it's happened, alot of the same people are very angry about it. I'm starting to think some of you may just have an irrational hatred of MS and Phil Spencer or something.
Looking from the outside in I personally would lay more blame towards Matt Booty, for the problems at MS game studios. Its more his job. But I could be wrong as I do not know the inner workings of MS.
It's a sad day for everyone involved, and I wish them and their families all the best for the future.
I kind of like the idea of ID doing the next Halo, but I also don't want to see them stop making their own games like Doom and Quake. Looks like MS are not being so "hands off" anymore, like some people were asking for. Shame for all those involved. I wish them the best of luck for the future and hope they find employment very soon
Me and the wife watched it on the free trial over Christmas. We actually enjoyed it and she doesn't even like the Halo games. Its different to the games, but it's enjoyable for what it is. I did have to explain a few things to her at times
My understanding is that MS are waiting on the CMA and EU, and if they approve it with concessions, those concessions will be offered to the FTC and likely accepted without a trial, by the wording used at the pretrial. It's all eyes on the cma and eu for the next step
First party: C - 2021 was very good, 2022 was very bad. So a C seems fair.
Hardware: A - silent and have had no faults.
Gamepass: A - too many games to play and 2023 looks even better so far
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe only Elden Ring and CoD were not on Gamepass of the top 10 games. It was a poor year for first party, but gamepass was pretty brilliant in all honesty.
I would prefer Squanch to stay independent. With their style of humour/game, i would hate someone to buy them and dilute what makes them unique. We need more originality, congratulations to them
I'm about an hour and a half in so far. I find it very funny and it's pretty refreshing playing something a bit more unique. We need more originality in the industry, so congratulations to them.
@Dezzy70 with Final Fantasy 16, Zelda and Starfield all out next year. Hopefully it's going to be a good year for gaming no matter which console you play
@Dezzy70 I liked the old god of war games and 2018. Looking forward to Ragnarok, but wanted to finish a bit of the backlog first. Hit the Platinum for Forbidden West last nite. I'm hyped for a few microsoft games, nintendo games and sony games personally, but everyone has different tastes. Hopefully microsoft release some stuff more to your liking soon.
@Dezzy70 I'm pretty happy with my ps5, my main issue is the audio support. I have a 7.2.2 atmos home theater system, and I'm stuck using uncompressed pcm 7.1 surround sound as they still do not support 3d audio for home theater after 2 years, only with TV speakers and headphones.
I'm picking up GoW in the new year sometime. How did you find it? Good HDR implementation? I would not want to play in performance mode without vrr, that's for sure!
@Dezzy70 resolution is a factor for sure. But also a problem with the ps5 is the hdmi ports. They support lower bandwidth than the series x. When playing 4k at 120hz, the ps5 will drop to 4.2.2 subsampling, whereas the series x does not. If you click the green button on TV remote a few times quickly when playing a game, it will bring up the picture details including hdmi bandwidth, so you can see the consoles display different.
I use dolby vision sometimes, but on games not mastered for it, it can lead to a loss of detail in bright areas. A bit like dynamic tone mapping on a TV. But some games do actually look better in Dolby Vision, but some look worse. When using dolby vision HGiG and dynamic tone mapping are not available, as dolby vision is its own dynamic tone mapping that can be adjusted on a.per frame basis. It's why movies look great in it
I just finished up Forbidden West at the weekend, the Hdr was nice using HGiG and I played in the 40fps/120hz mode.
@Dezzy70 I use HGiG on series x and ps5. Dynamic tone mapping makes everything inaccurate as the TV is adjusting the hdr a second time. I really would recommend HGiG and a properly adjusted hdr slider. 0nits for black and 1000nits for white is what our TV should be I believe. Great TV by the way hope you are enjoying it!
@Dezzy70 with your lg c2 you should use HGiG and not dynamic tone mapping for HDR content on Series X. This is confirmed by HDTV test and using dynamic tone mapping leads to an inaccurate picture. I have the same 65inch tv
It would be nice if CoD was on ps plus, gamepass and Nintendo online. Then the customer could decide the platform that is best for them, and not feel like that have had a worse deal than anyone else on a competing platform.
Il be giving it a go when I'm finished with Forbidden West. Think I will enjoy it and will be a perfect palate cleanser between forbidden west and monster hunter
Seems Microsoft have been playing 4D chess the whole time. Great for Nintendo owners, really bad for the ftc etc. If they oppose the takeover now, they will be taking Call of Duty away from gamers.
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Re: Microsoft Defends ActiBlizz Acquisition By Highlighting PlayStation's Dominance Over Xbox
The reason Nintendo were left off is because the cma and ftc have both argued in their investigations that nintendo is not part of the "high spec console market" This definition of the market has been pushed by them. If anyone actually agrees with that, is another story entirely
Re: Microsoft Defends ActiBlizz Acquisition By Highlighting PlayStation's Dominance Over Xbox
Lulu has been pretty entertaining throughout and managed to bring a little laughter to a boring topic
Re: Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Is Now Ready To Preload On Xbox Game Pass
This is the first "big game" this year for me. If its anywhere close to nioh or ninja gaiden we are in for a treat
Re: These 20+ Games Are Coming To Xbox Next Week (February 13-17)
As some of you may know by now I'm a ninja gaiden fanatic, so I have my eye on wanted dead. Not sure if il play it before or after wo long. Could be a great few weeks for me
Re: 2023 Has Already Treated Us To Multiple GOTY Candidates On Xbox
Personally I was kinda dissapointed with Monster Hunter Rise if I was honest. Gave it a good go but came away underwhelmed after World.
Re: Sony Feels Microsoft Is Committing 'Obvious Harassment' In Relation To ActiBlizz Deal
The most obvious and cost effective solution for all parties involved would of been to settle this with some multiplayer COD. 6v6 MS/ABK v EU/CMA/FTC on Terminal. Top execs from each. Could have been part of the Developer Direct
Re: Sony Feels Microsoft Is Committing 'Obvious Harassment' In Relation To ActiBlizz Deal
Microsoft have also subpoenaed Google and ABK have subpoenaed Nintendo for the discovery stage.
The FTC also subpoenaed Sony, which Sony is also fighting against separately to this one with MS.
Very interesting times ahead
Re: Activision Blizzard CEO Accuses Sony Of 'Trying To Sabotage' Xbox Takeover
@Would_you_kindly they still have an ongoing marketing contract with ABK for a start
Re: Activision Blizzard CEO Accuses Sony Of 'Trying To Sabotage' Xbox Takeover
@stvevan kotick confirmed in his interview they are not talking to MS or ABK.
"It's funny, Sony is not on the phone to us. In fact, they are not returning our phone calls. And so... I think one of the things that are surprising to us is, this is the time ordinarily we would be talking about the future and new opportunities together for partnership, and they just haven't been returning our phone calls. And so, I don't know that we're as valuable as they maybe have represented to the regulators that we are."
Re: Analysts Predict Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Will Close Soon, Despite UK Objections
It's up to Microsoft now. They have the EU and UKs concerns, now it's all on them to come up with an agreement that suits the EU and CMA, whether that's structural or behavioural. If they do that, they can present the concessions to the FTC and close in the summer. Or they could close anyway without the FTC, as I think they have mentioned. Fail to reach an agreement with the eu/cma before the end of April and it's pretty much dead in my opinion. But I could be wrong
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Could Be 'Harmful' To The Industry, Claims UK Regulator
@ABNJ because it says so in the cmas report. The 10year offer will only be considered at the next stage
Re: Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal Could Be 'Harmful' To The Industry, Claims UK Regulator
An important detail is that the 10year offer to steam/nintendo was not considered at the phase 2 stage, and the cma states that would be considered in the next remedies phase which begins now.
I have tried reading the report and it's just really confusing. They list 3 structural remedies, but then mention that behavioural remedies may also be possible later in the report.
I think it's just a 'wait until the end of April and see' kind of situation as MS statement doesn't seem to indicate they are dropping the deal just yet
Re: Pick One: What Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Game In January?
Goldeneye. Finished it on 00 agent, only aztec/egyptian left to complete. Got all the speedrun cheats done aswell so far. Facility took a while due to bad rng and archives was surprisingly easier than I remembered.
Re: Hands On: Our First Impressions Of GoldenEye 007 On Xbox Game Pass
Made it up to Statue last night, had a good time. Amazing how well I remember some of the levels. Alot of memories flooding back. Il be playing some more campaign later and enjoying the nostalgia
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade January's Xbox Developer Direct?
I liked the format but in my opinion they really need a firm release date for every game shown or don't show it at developer direct yet. That's what E3 is for, the bigger, looser announcements
Re: Tango Gameworks Announces 'Hi-Fi RUSH', Available Today On Xbox Game Pass
Got some jet set radio/sunset overdrive/sega dreamcast vibes from this. Man I loved the dreamcast
Re: GoldenEye 007 Officially Arrives On Xbox Game Pass This Week
The times me and my friends would play goldeneye and later perfect dark huddled around a small TV are some of my most favourite gaming memories from that period. Even the music just brings it all flooding back. I look forward to the nostalgia trip
Re: Xbox Surpasses 120M Monthly Active Users, As Game Pass Reaches 'New Highs'
@Dezzy70 last year in the UK less than 60,000 units separated the nintendo switch in 1st place and the xbox series consoles in 3rd place
Re: Xbox Exec Wants Fans To Keep Developer_Direct Expectations In Check
Just like me and a few others were saying in the previous threads. It's crazy the expectations people still have when they announced what they would be doing from the very start. Its the developers showing off the games, it's not a state of play or an e3, and was never meant to be. They already announced the games up until the summer, so I fully expect their next big show or announcements to be around E3, same as always
Re: Redfall 'Deluxe Upgrade' Leak Gives Us First Evidence Of Xbox Price Increases
I do not agree with the price rise, just like I don't with other publishers. The only thing softening the blow is gamepass, offering people a choice, but I still don't think it completely shields them from critisism. As a father of 2 children I just can't justify £70 games, and will just wait for price drops or the games to drop on subscription. On a personal level I would prefer they drop some of the needless production values and lower the cost of making the games. Gameplay is king
Re: Soapbox: January's Developer_Direct Could Be The Start Of Something Big For Xbox
@lechugajr people are setting themselves up for major dissapointment in my opinion. This is not an e3 style show and was never meant to be, it's a developer direct focused on those 4 games, like they announced. People's imagination is going wild, despite MS telling them what to expect. It's quite literally in the name
Re: Soapbox: January's Developer_Direct Could Be The Start Of Something Big For Xbox
I wouldn't expect much apart from deeper looks at the 4 games announced with the show. I think it's supposed to be the developer showing off those games as they release soon and a couple of release dates. I don't think it's going to be like a Nintendo direct or similar.
Re: 343 Industries Unveils Official Statement On The Future Of Halo
I'm just glad ID will continue to make their own games like Doom and Quake and not shoehorned onto Halo. I really like their games and it would suck to loose them. But maybe they could support studio with 343 or something, a bit like the coalition helping undead labs maybe?
Re: Phil Spencer Responds To Xbox Layoffs, Calls It A 'Difficult Moment In Time' For Microsoft
People have been relentlessly calling out MS for restructure at MS game studios, and now it's happened, alot of the same people are very angry about it. I'm starting to think some of you may just have an irrational hatred of MS and Phil Spencer or something.
Looking from the outside in I personally would lay more blame towards Matt Booty, for the problems at MS game studios. Its more his job. But I could be wrong as I do not know the inner workings of MS.
It's a sad day for everyone involved, and I wish them and their families all the best for the future.
Re: Report: 343 Industries 'Hit Hard' By This Week's Job Cuts At Microsoft
I kind of like the idea of ID doing the next Halo, but I also don't want to see them stop making their own games like Doom and Quake. Looks like MS are not being so "hands off" anymore, like some people were asking for. Shame for all those involved. I wish them the best of luck for the future and hope they find employment very soon
Re: 'Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty' Story Trailer Showcases What To Expect From Xbox Game Pass RPG
Been so hyped for this game since I first seen it at last e3. I really can't wait. Love team ninja
Re: Xbox's Rumoured Gears Of War Collection Is Still Happening, Claims Journalist
Waste of time as they still play great BC
Re: Talking Point: What Would You Like To See From Xbox's 'Developer_Direct' Livestream?
Jet Set Radio Future
Re: Digital Games Are Dominating In The UK At Almost 90% Of Overall Sales
I buy only phyiscal for playstation and ninetendo but have been download only on xbox since the one, its pretty wierd when I think about it
Re: It Sounds Like Halo Was A Massive Hit For Paramount Plus In 2022
Me and the wife watched it on the free trial over Christmas. We actually enjoyed it and she doesn't even like the Halo games. Its different to the games, but it's enjoyable for what it is. I did have to explain a few things to her at times
Re: Report: Microsoft, ActiBlizz & The FTC Yet To Begin 'Substantive' Settlement Talks
My understanding is that MS are waiting on the CMA and EU, and if they approve it with concessions, those concessions will be offered to the FTC and likely accepted without a trial, by the wording used at the pretrial. It's all eyes on the cma and eu for the next step
Re: Pick One: Which Xbox Game Studios Title Are You Most Excited For Right Now?
I want to know what ID are up to next
Re: Feature: 50 Xbox Series X|S Games To Look Forward To In 2023
1. Wo long
2. Zelda
3. Starfield
4. Diablo 4
5. Final fantasy 16
Re: How Would You Grade The Xbox Series X|S Generation So Far?
First party: C - 2021 was very good, 2022 was very bad. So a C seems fair.
Hardware: A - silent and have had no faults.
Gamepass: A - too many games to play and 2023 looks even better so far
Overall a B with a slight hint of C so far
Re: Feature: Pure Xbox's Game Of The Year 2022
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe only Elden Ring and CoD were not on Gamepass of the top 10 games. It was a poor year for first party, but gamepass was pretty brilliant in all honesty.
Elden Ring was my Goty, what a brilliant game
Merry Christmas everyone!
Re: High On Life Is Now Officially One Of The Biggest Xbox Game Pass Launches Of All Time
I would prefer Squanch to stay independent. With their style of humour/game, i would hate someone to buy them and dilute what makes them unique. We need more originality, congratulations to them
Re: High On Life Is Dominating The Charts Right Now, And Team Xbox Is Thrilled About It
I'm about an hour and a half in so far. I find it very funny and it's pretty refreshing playing something a bit more unique. We need more originality in the industry, so congratulations to them.
Re: What's All This About A Cheaper, Ad-Filled Version Of Xbox Game Pass?
@Dezzy70 ive been a big fan of Bethesda rpgs since Morrowind, but I can appreciate you may not feel the same.
Re: What's All This About A Cheaper, Ad-Filled Version Of Xbox Game Pass?
@Dezzy70 with Final Fantasy 16, Zelda and Starfield all out next year. Hopefully it's going to be a good year for gaming no matter which console you play
Re: What's All This About A Cheaper, Ad-Filled Version Of Xbox Game Pass?
@Dezzy70 I liked the old god of war games and 2018. Looking forward to Ragnarok, but wanted to finish a bit of the backlog first. Hit the Platinum for Forbidden West last nite. I'm hyped for a few microsoft games, nintendo games and sony games personally, but everyone has different tastes. Hopefully microsoft release some stuff more to your liking soon.
Re: What's All This About A Cheaper, Ad-Filled Version Of Xbox Game Pass?
@Dezzy70 I'm pretty happy with my ps5, my main issue is the audio support. I have a 7.2.2 atmos home theater system, and I'm stuck using uncompressed pcm 7.1 surround sound as they still do not support 3d audio for home theater after 2 years, only with TV speakers and headphones.
I'm picking up GoW in the new year sometime. How did you find it? Good HDR implementation? I would not want to play in performance mode without vrr, that's for sure!
Re: What's All This About A Cheaper, Ad-Filled Version Of Xbox Game Pass?
@Dezzy70 resolution is a factor for sure. But also a problem with the ps5 is the hdmi ports. They support lower bandwidth than the series x. When playing 4k at 120hz, the ps5 will drop to 4.2.2 subsampling, whereas the series x does not. If you click the green button on TV remote a few times quickly when playing a game, it will bring up the picture details including hdmi bandwidth, so you can see the consoles display different.
I use dolby vision sometimes, but on games not mastered for it, it can lead to a loss of detail in bright areas. A bit like dynamic tone mapping on a TV. But some games do actually look better in Dolby Vision, but some look worse. When using dolby vision HGiG and dynamic tone mapping are not available, as dolby vision is its own dynamic tone mapping that can be adjusted on a.per frame basis. It's why movies look great in it
I just finished up Forbidden West at the weekend, the Hdr was nice using HGiG and I played in the 40fps/120hz mode.
Re: What's All This About A Cheaper, Ad-Filled Version Of Xbox Game Pass?
@Dezzy70 I use HGiG on series x and ps5. Dynamic tone mapping makes everything inaccurate as the TV is adjusting the hdr a second time. I really would recommend HGiG and a properly adjusted hdr slider. 0nits for black and 1000nits for white is what our TV should be I believe. Great TV by the way hope you are enjoying it!
Re: What's All This About A Cheaper, Ad-Filled Version Of Xbox Game Pass?
@Dezzy70 with your lg c2 you should use HGiG and not dynamic tone mapping for HDR content on Series X. This is confirmed by HDTV test and using dynamic tone mapping leads to an inaccurate picture. I have the same 65inch tv
Re: Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Dev Reveals 'Electrifying' Trailer Ahead Of Xbox Game Pass Launch
One of my most anticipated games next year!
Re: Talking Point: Should Xbox Start Doing Its Own 'Nintendo Direct' Style Showcases?
I like the big e3 style show once a year personally. Really glad it's back next year!
Re: Report: Microsoft Offers Sony The 'Right' To Include Call Of Duty On PlayStation Plus
It would be nice if CoD was on ps plus, gamepass and Nintendo online. Then the customer could decide the platform that is best for them, and not feel like that have had a worse deal than anyone else on a competing platform.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Are Saying About 'High On Life' On Xbox Game Pass
Il be giving it a go when I'm finished with Forbidden West. Think I will enjoy it and will be a perfect palate cleanser between forbidden west and monster hunter
Re: EU Responds To FTC's Concerns Over Microsoft's Acquisition Of ZeniMax & Activision Blizzard
It was always a strange comment by the FTC and its going to be very easy to prove to be a false acusation
Re: Microsoft Enters '10-Year Commitment' To Bring Call Of Duty To Nintendo Platforms
Seems Microsoft have been playing 4D chess the whole time. Great for Nintendo owners, really bad for the ftc etc. If they oppose the takeover now, they will be taking Call of Duty away from gamers.