@Kaloudz That's what I'm saying. I was all for it at first, but it's run pretty stale now. I just want the deal to go through so we can stop hearing about it. 😅
@Royalblues They both rely on third party for their overall sales. Nintendo is the only one exempt from that practice.
@Would_you_kindly It really isn't too weak tho. They just have to optimize it. It's not like PS4 is "night and day" stronger than XB1. It's a bit stronger is all. Same thing with PS5 and Series X. Series X is marginally stronger than PS5. Not leagues stronger.
@Casco Don't do that. Xbox does it too. I guess with that logic, we could ascertain that Xbox paid for exclusivity of the first game to keep off Sony. While Sony kept this one off MS. Blind speculation of course, but plausible. Gives credence to the fact that both do it.
@OliverOwen 😂 Yeah I can see that. For real though, I wonder what time period this will be set in. If its feudal, then the Ghost of Tsushima comparisons will be imminent.
@armondo36 Sony bought Naughty Dog years ago. They never even worked on an Xbox game before. That would be like a PS fan complaining about MS buying Playground games. Playground, to my knowledge, has never made a Playstation game.
Insomniac was pretty much a Sony studio. Marvel is the one that went to Sony and asked them to make a game. Why would Sony make a game for Xbox to have? I mean if Marvel went to Xbox with the same offer, I would not expect them to release the game on Playstation. Why would they?
I completely understand what you're conveying. Just not feeling the examples. Although you're technically right about the Insomniac scenario. The Spiderman example is wrong though.
@Danimal25 I hear what you're saying and it makes sense. However, I think Xbox is looking at a much broader spectrum. They want GamePass to exist for the foreseeable future. Timed deals is temporary. Xbox is thinking long term. I don't think the main idea was to purposely take games from Sony or anything like that. They're just bolstering their subscription service to be attractive to everyone. Trust me I'm not defending Xbox here. Just trying to shed some light here on their justifications.
So again, timed deals may not be beneficial to them in the long run. Securing IP and deals that benefit Xbox seems to be more key to their plans. Deals like making sure they get games like Street Fighter to come back to Xbox, and/or making sure Japanese games don't miss the Xbox platform.
@SplooshDmg THIS POST RIGHT HERE NEEDS MORE LIKES!!! I get the typical "Sony is anti this and that" and they're the villain here. I know this an Xbox eccentric site. However, there are arguments for both companies. I believe this post I'm replying to really hit it. No bashing or blindly oblivious to what there own favorite platform does. Just stating the facts and how this came to be. Sony should definitely be worried. They're doing questionable things that should garner the negative press as of late. Xbox trying to fix the crap from the last generation is commendable as well. Sony just gotta step up and be competitive again, not comfortable.
@TheGrimOne No it wouldn't have. It'll be a large vocal group, like the Sony ones, that would complain about it. Sony couldn't even outright purchase Crunchyroll without being subjected to an investigation. Can't imagine spending 70 billion and going through this. Business is business and MS shouldn't have to do anything.
@BAMozzy 😂😂😂 You totally belittled their games with that back handed compliment. "Whatever old games they want to remaster for cash crabs". Yeah man that was cold. I hear ya though.
@LightningLeader What exclusives did Xbox share with Playstation? Don't mention Minecraft as that was a deal done before MS acquired it. I'm not sure how the Minecraft spinoffs play into it. Outside of that, I don't know any Xbox exclusive they've shared with Sony post acquisitions.
Of course you know Sony ain't sharing. Not mad at either for not sharing even if COD becomes Xbox and PC exclusive. 70 billion is a whole lot of chicken for them not to have it exclusive.
@Bleachedsmiles I highly doubt that. If anyone buys Platinum, it probably would be Nintendo. Sega more than likely will stay independent so that games can stay multiplat.
@Stoned_Patrol 🤣🤣🤣 Man I'm a total goofball. I turned 40 a couple of months back and STILL love cartoons. Disney had a hand in my upbringing. So I got a soft spot for them.
@Bleachedsmiles I didn't know you had to pay money for it. So there's that. Even still, I'm happy to play the game because I like Disney and the "Animal Crossing-ish" vibe it has.
@rhyno_888 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You know what...I was about to call you the typical Xbox fanboy, but damn I appreciate your honesty about hating them. I had a good laugh this morning.
Btw, SF5 was co funded by them. Of course it was gonna be exclusive. Also Sony was approached by Marvel to make those Spidey and Wolvie games. Why would Sony make games to go on other platforms if they don't have to. Bad enough with The Show. Same thing if Playground, Coalition or any other Xbox developer making a special licensed game. I wouldn't expect those games on Playstation.
Damn some of you need to chill. He's a gamer at heart. All of them do this. Phil is just the only one that actually said something publicly about it when asked. Sakurai has a Xbox and Playstation in his living room. Kaz loved the 360 and Wii. Like I said, all of them play games on the rival's console. It doesn't mean that they've stop developing or caring for their own platform.
@Geezer No one should expect a public announcement that they play games on other consoles either. If you are genuinely a person that says great things about rivals, then it's truly in your nature. Can't expect someone to be the same as you are, even if it's kind of messed up. Btw Herman Hulst and Kaz has stated positive things about Xbox in the past. Phil is just a stand up dude who wants to see everyone thrive. He's a rarity among the corporate.
@UltimateOtaku91 I mean Cuphead didn't come to Playstation for a whole 3 years after Xbox. Not to mention others before it. They both do these deals. It really has slowed down more on Xbox if we're being real. However, Jim Ryan did warn that these deals were in place already. So no shock there.
@Geezer Much better? Mmmm...I'm not sure about that. It's definitely on the level with it in terms of gameplay. Speaking about Psychonauts 2 to the recent R&C. Opinions at the end of the day I suppose.
@Tasuki Definitely not what I meant. It's just how you took it. Still looking back at my comment, I can see why you took it that way. I should have added "to support them MORE" versus an unintended misinterpretation. Like I was implying that people who play it on GamePass don't support the dev. Most certainly not my intention. Glad we got that out the way. I'll be more mindful of my wording next time.
@IronMan30 @Tasuki Okay gentlemen. I appreciate the insight. I'm not sure if you both fully understood that it's not a need for me to see sale numbers. Only that I'm curious to know how much it would do outside of GamePass. Especially for folks who has GamePass, but still want to support the devs even more by purchasing the game. Again...it's because this was one of the most sought after titles for 2022. I digress.
@IronMan30 Omg I don't know what's so hard about me saying that I want to see them flourish here. It's not virtually impossible for them to see sales. What are you talking about?!
So, I never said it was my problem to know their sales number. I'm simply just curious to know how much it will sell due to the high demand of this game.
I'm not sure if you thought I was being facetious or something. Again, I'm simply just excited about the game and it's possible future feats.
@Tasuki Sir I'm aware that Xbox paid them a lot of money to get this game on Game Pass. So they (Dotemu) will see not how much the consumer paid, but just how many people are playing their game through Game Pass. I want them to see how many people purchased their game without the Game Pass data. That's the avenue I'm approaching with this. You understand where I'm coming from?
@BlackMayge I got it on Game Pass, but will purchase the PS4 physical edition to support the devs as well. They REEEEEEEALLY did their homework from the gameplay to the soundtrack. Gotta support folks like them.
@awp69 Unimpressive visually?! Nah we not doing that. GT7 looks amazing. So does FM. I can't wait to play this in practice. FM held the crown for best racer for a long time. Glad to see it's competitive again.
@K1LLEGAL Definitely agree here. I honestly don't give a damn though. I'm just excited to play this. The fact that it's coming to GamePass is even sweeter.
@NEStalgia Not a sequel. More of a continuation of P5. Also P4G did come to Sony. You have to count the Vita. Just like Persona games came to Nintendo. Just not the mainline series thru DS.
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Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Visits SEGA Booth At TGS 2022, Where Persona 5 Royal Was Playable
Return to Xbox? When has a mainline Persona game ever hit Xbox? Did I miss something? In any case, this is great for fans of Persona who game on Xbox.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Initially Planned To Launch 9 Exclusives In 2023
@Royalblues 😏😏😏
Re: Phil Spencer Passionately Defends Xbox Game Pass Over Call Of Duty Concerns
@Kaloudz That's what I'm saying. I was all for it at first, but it's run pretty stale now. I just want the deal to go through so we can stop hearing about it. 😅
@Royalblues They both rely on third party for their overall sales. Nintendo is the only one exempt from that practice.
Re: Phil Spencer Passionately Defends Xbox Game Pass Over Call Of Duty Concerns
@Kaloudz Me too! I'm so sick of hearing about this bs.
Re: 'One Piece Odyssey' Locks In January 2023 Release Date For Xbox Series X|S
Zorro is thee BEST character. Followed by Oden.
Re: Resident Evil 4 Remake Adds PS4 Version, But No Sign Of Xbox One
@Would_you_kindly It really isn't too weak tho. They just have to optimize it. It's not like PS4 is "night and day" stronger than XB1. It's a bit stronger is all. Same thing with PS5 and Series X. Series X is marginally stronger than PS5. Not leagues stronger.
Re: For Some Reason, Octopath Traveler 2 Appears To Be Skipping Xbox
@Casco Don't do that. Xbox does it too. I guess with that logic, we could ascertain that Xbox paid for exclusivity of the first game to keep off Sony. While Sony kept this one off MS. Blind speculation of course, but plausible. Gives credence to the fact that both do it.
Re: GoldenEye 007 Will Be Free For Digital Owners Of Rare Replay On Xbox
The gift that keeps on giving. Thank you, Xbox!
Re: GoldenEye 007 Officially Announced For Xbox Game Pass
Fan...f'ing..TASTIC!!! Let's go, Xbox!!!!
Re: Ubisoft Will Reportedly Announce Several New Assassin's Creed Games
@OliverOwen 😂 Yeah I can see that. For real though, I wonder what time period this will be set in. If its feudal, then the Ghost of Tsushima comparisons will be imminent.
Re: Ubisoft Will Reportedly Announce Several New Assassin's Creed Games
Set in Japan?! Feudal Japan or something different?
Re: High On Life's Xbox Game Pass Launch Was Partly Delayed Due To God Of War, Call Of Duty
@Dezzy70 Same. I'll pay the 70 for GoWR and Halo Infinite, if it's a complete version.
Re: Xbox's 'Approach' With Starfield Is Leading To More ActiBlizz Scrutiny
@armondo36 Sony bought Naughty Dog years ago. They never even worked on an Xbox game before. That would be like a PS fan complaining about MS buying Playground games. Playground, to my knowledge, has never made a Playstation game.
Insomniac was pretty much a Sony studio. Marvel is the one that went to Sony and asked them to make a game. Why would Sony make a game for Xbox to have? I mean if Marvel went to Xbox with the same offer, I would not expect them to release the game on Playstation. Why would they?
I completely understand what you're conveying. Just not feeling the examples. Although you're technically right about the Insomniac scenario. The Spiderman example is wrong though.
Re: Phil Spencer: Xbox Went 'Well Beyond Typical Agreements' To Keep Call Of Duty On PlayStation
@Danimal25 I hear what you're saying and it makes sense. However, I think Xbox is looking at a much broader spectrum. They want GamePass to exist for the foreseeable future. Timed deals is temporary. Xbox is thinking long term. I don't think the main idea was to purposely take games from Sony or anything like that. They're just bolstering their subscription service to be attractive to everyone. Trust me I'm not defending Xbox here. Just trying to shed some light here on their justifications.
So again, timed deals may not be beneficial to them in the long run. Securing IP and deals that benefit Xbox seems to be more key to their plans. Deals like making sure they get games like Street Fighter to come back to Xbox, and/or making sure Japanese games don't miss the Xbox platform.
Re: Phil Spencer: Xbox Went 'Well Beyond Typical Agreements' To Keep Call Of Duty On PlayStation
@SplooshDmg THIS POST RIGHT HERE NEEDS MORE LIKES!!! I get the typical "Sony is anti this and that" and they're the villain here. I know this an Xbox eccentric site. However, there are arguments for both companies. I believe this post I'm replying to really hit it. No bashing or blindly oblivious to what there own favorite platform does. Just stating the facts and how this came to be. Sony should definitely be worried. They're doing questionable things that should garner the negative press as of late. Xbox trying to fix the crap from the last generation is commendable as well. Sony just gotta step up and be competitive again, not comfortable.
Re: Xbox's 'Approach' With Starfield Is Leading To More ActiBlizz Scrutiny
@TheGrimOne No it wouldn't have. It'll be a large vocal group, like the Sony ones, that would complain about it. Sony couldn't even outright purchase Crunchyroll without being subjected to an investigation. Can't imagine spending 70 billion and going through this. Business is business and MS shouldn't have to do anything.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Praises 'Inspiring Work' From The Last Of Us Dev
@BAMozzy 😂😂😂 You totally belittled their games with that back handed compliment. "Whatever old games they want to remaster for cash crabs". Yeah man that was cold. I hear ya though.
Re: Reaction: More Gaming Acquisitions Doesn't Necessarily Mean More Exclusives
@LightningLeader What exclusives did Xbox share with Playstation? Don't mention Minecraft as that was a deal done before MS acquired it. I'm not sure how the Minecraft spinoffs play into it. Outside of that, I don't know any Xbox exclusive they've shared with Sony post acquisitions.
Of course you know Sony ain't sharing. Not mad at either for not sharing even if COD becomes Xbox and PC exclusive. 70 billion is a whole lot of chicken for them not to have it exclusive.
Re: Move Over Microsoft, Embracer Group Buys Square Enix's Western Studios
@Dezzy70 I knew you were trolling. 🤣🤣🤣 I looked at your comment over there and said to myself, "he ain't serious....!"
Re: Video: Here's A Full 25 Minutes Of Xbox Game Pass Shooter 'High On Life'
This looks great. Count me in! GamePass launch title? Hell yeah!
Re: Xbox Continues To Look For Potential Acquisitions, Says Phil Spencer
@Bleachedsmiles Definitely agree with that, especially the last statement.
Re: Xbox Continues To Look For Potential Acquisitions, Says Phil Spencer
@Bleachedsmiles I highly doubt that. If anyone buys Platinum, it probably would be Nintendo. Sega more than likely will stay independent so that games can stay multiplat.
Re: Reaction: Death Stranding's Reception Makes Us Very Excited For Kojima + Xbox
So the "walking simulator" is being received well for PC. Good....
Re: Sony Didn't Pay To Keep 'Cult Of The Lamb' Off Xbox Game Pass, Says Publisher
I ain't gonna front....I think it was a fanboy to fan the flames of bad publicity Sony has been getting as of late.
These comments (especially the earlier ones) aged horribly already. 😂
Re: These 8 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (August 16-30)
Definitely excited for Immortal Fenyx Rising.
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In September 2022 So Far
@Stoned_Patrol 🤣🤣🤣 Man I'm a total goofball. I turned 40 a couple of months back and STILL love cartoons. Disney had a hand in my upbringing. So I got a soft spot for them.
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In September 2022 So Far
@Bleachedsmiles I didn't know you had to pay money for it. So there's that. Even still, I'm happy to play the game because I like Disney and the "Animal Crossing-ish" vibe it has.
Re: Four Games Are Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In September 2022 So Far
I'm excited for the Disney game. Love Disney and always will.
Re: Capcom Reveals Kimberly And Juri For Street Fighter 6
@Royalblues Same. I love her look and that Bushinryu-style she has going as well.
Re: PlayStation Seems Worried About Xbox Owning Call Of Duty
@rhyno_888 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You know what...I was about to call you the typical Xbox fanboy, but damn I appreciate your honesty about hating them. I had a good laugh this morning.
Btw, SF5 was co funded by them. Of course it was gonna be exclusive. Also Sony was approached by Marvel to make those Spidey and Wolvie games. Why would Sony make games to go on other platforms if they don't have to. Bad enough with The Show. Same thing if Playground, Coalition or any other Xbox developer making a special licensed game. I wouldn't expect those games on Playstation.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Admits The Game He Wants To Play Next Is On PlayStation
Damn some of you need to chill. He's a gamer at heart. All of them do this. Phil is just the only one that actually said something publicly about it when asked. Sakurai has a Xbox and Playstation in his living room. Kaz loved the 360 and Wii. Like I said, all of them play games on the rival's console. It doesn't mean that they've stop developing or caring for their own platform.
@Geezer No one should expect a public announcement that they play games on other consoles either. If you are genuinely a person that says great things about rivals, then it's truly in your nature. Can't expect someone to be the same as you are, even if it's kind of messed up. Btw Herman Hulst and Kaz has stated positive things about Xbox in the past. Phil is just a stand up dude who wants to see everyone thrive. He's a rarity among the corporate.
Re: 'Forspoken' PS5 Delay Means It Won't Come To Xbox Until 2025
@UltimateOtaku91 I mean Cuphead didn't come to Playstation for a whole 3 years after Xbox. Not to mention others before it. They both do these deals. It really has slowed down more on Xbox if we're being real. However, Jim Ryan did warn that these deals were in place already. So no shock there.
Re: Stray's Success Could Pave The Way For Everyone's Favourite Xbox Cat To Return
@Geezer Much better? Mmmm...I'm not sure about that. It's definitely on the level with it in terms of gameplay. Speaking about Psychonauts 2 to the recent R&C. Opinions at the end of the day I suppose.
Re: PlayStation Is Adding Its Own Version Of Microsoft Rewards This Year
@deadmaker Don't....
Re: Psychonauts 2 Physical Version Slated For Xbox This September, Bonuses Included
@Rmg0731 You would pay 70 bucks for a last gen version instead of a fully optimized current gen for the same price? Well have at it.
Re: Poll: Would You Pay For A Remake Of The Simpsons: Hit & Run?
Would certainly pay for a remake. No if, and, or buts about it.
Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge Is Now Available With Xbox Game Pass
@Tasuki Definitely not what I meant. It's just how you took it. Still looking back at my comment, I can see why you took it that way. I should have added "to support them MORE" versus an unintended misinterpretation. Like I was implying that people who play it on GamePass don't support the dev. Most certainly not my intention. Glad we got that out the way. I'll be more mindful of my wording next time.
Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge Is Now Available With Xbox Game Pass
@IronMan30 @Tasuki Okay gentlemen. I appreciate the insight. I'm not sure if you both fully understood that it's not a need for me to see sale numbers. Only that I'm curious to know how much it would do outside of GamePass. Especially for folks who has GamePass, but still want to support the devs even more by purchasing the game. Again...it's because this was one of the most sought after titles for 2022. I digress.
Again, I appreciate the responses.
Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge Is Now Available With Xbox Game Pass
@IronMan30 Omg I don't know what's so hard about me saying that I want to see them flourish here. It's not virtually impossible for them to see sales. What are you talking about?!
So, I never said it was my problem to know their sales number. I'm simply just curious to know how much it will sell due to the high demand of this game.
I'm not sure if you thought I was being facetious or something. Again, I'm simply just excited about the game and it's possible future feats.
Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge Is Now Available With Xbox Game Pass
@Tasuki Sir I'm aware that Xbox paid them a lot of money to get this game on Game Pass. So they (Dotemu) will see not how much the consumer paid, but just how many people are playing their game through Game Pass. I want them to see how many people purchased their game without the Game Pass data. That's the avenue I'm approaching with this. You understand where I'm coming from?
Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge Is Now Available With Xbox Game Pass
@Tasuki Meaning monetary wise. I want them to see monetary growth as well. That would also show them just how much we love the game they've created.
Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge Is Now Available With Xbox Game Pass
@BlackMayge I got it on Game Pass, but will purchase the PS4 physical edition to support the devs as well. They REEEEEEEALLY did their homework from the gameplay to the soundtrack. Gotta support folks like them.
Re: Forza Motorsport Is The Most 'Technically Advanced' Racer Ever, Says Turn 10
@awp69 Unimpressive visually?! Nah we not doing that. GT7 looks amazing. So does FM. I can't wait to play this in practice. FM held the crown for best racer for a long time. Glad to see it's competitive again.
Re: Gallery: Feast Your Eyes On These Brand-New Starfield Screenshots
This looks absolutely amazing. I'm pretty excited for this game particularly. I'm still on the fence about Redfall though.
Re: Hideo Kojima Is Partnering With Xbox On A Brand-New Game
@Royalblues Xbox was never irrelevant to begin with. Still, they're making a lot of noise right now. THIS is how you step it up. Big ups to Phil.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think TMNT: Shredder's Revenge's Metacritic Score Will Be?
@K1LLEGAL Definitely agree here. I honestly don't give a damn though. I'm just excited to play this. The fact that it's coming to GamePass is even sweeter.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Punches Its Way To Xbox Series X|S In 2023
Whaaaaaat?! I thought for sure it was timed. Glad to see it back multiplat. Looks great!
Re: PlayStation Store Conjures Speculation Over Final Fantasy VII Remake Coming To Xbox
@NEStalgia Not a sequel. More of a continuation of P5. Also P4G did come to Sony. You have to count the Vita. Just like Persona games came to Nintendo. Just not the mainline series thru DS.
Re: Xbox Turned Down The Chance To Make Exclusive Marvel Games In 2014
@Tharsman Hmmm...a new Punisher game made by Coalition?!🤔🤔🤔 I would love that!
Re: Rumour: PlayStation Could Have A 'Really Big' Acquisition To Announce Soon
@UltimateOtaku91 Oh it's Next Level, not Level 5. My mistake.