Forza Motorsport Is The Most 'Technically Advanced' Racer Ever, Says Turn 10

I have already mentioned this in a different thread, but FM looks visually astonishing, and if T10 can implement the huge improvements they claim to the driving physics than it will set a new standard for racing games on consoles.

And if they don’t lock content behind stupid paid dlc and unattainable in game currency to buy cars they will put GT7 to shame with this release.

Ray tracing looked impressive…but then they didn’t show it where ray tracing will actually make a huge improvement (the rear mirror). The whole showing of this I found more funny than ‘wow this is next gen looking’…they were basically copying last years fh5 reveal note for note.
I’m really hoping we see a full race tomorrow.

GT7 is a pretty good racer but it really is unimpressive visually. This truly looks next gen and can’t wait to get my hands on it!

I'll mess around a bit but this is definitely for the racing sim nuts. The whole ambient temperature affecting traction and such....not my jam but the hardcore will love it. Definitely looks awesome....the GT7 dudes must be happy it's not launching this year at least...they really look poor comparing the two.

insert here the Barack Obama rewarding himself meme

@Krzzystuff

Yeah... I'm not into doing deep dives on tuning, monitoring tire temps etc... I just like to jump into a race.
FH5 unfortunately feels a little lifeless, GRID Legends has too many problems (which is a shame... I feel there is a core of a potentially good game in there)...

What I really need in my life is Project Gotham.

I've said it before... and I'll keep saying it... we need a city street based racer whose handling sits halfway between FMotorsport and FHorizon.
Essentially a new Project Gotham, but slap a Forza Metro tag on it.

Some GT7 hate here, to be expected sadly despite it being a great game in its own right. I just think it's good that each is going to have a very good racing game

@awp69 we've been playing different games then

Glad we get horizons and motor sports. Love both sides of the racing genre and man both are top tier in content and quality.

@awp69 Unimpressive visually?! Nah we not doing that. GT7 looks amazing. So does FM. I can't wait to play this in practice. FM held the crown for best racer for a long time. Glad to see it's competitive again.

lol at GT7 being unimpressive visually. Some scenes look better than others according to the track/time of day/weather, but at its best GT7 is a stunning game, and tbh I'm more of an Xbox fan than PS. I love my Series X.

In this trailer I have to be honest, I think a bit too much fuss was made about the raytraced self reflections, and macrodetail type of stuff. The overall essence visually was not quite as convincing as GT7 to me.

I still think Forza Horizon 4 on max settings on PC running at 4k60 is the most realistic looking driving game.

Many of the environments in GT7 look like crap compared to games like FH 5 and even GRID Legends. The city environment ones look like early PS4 era. There has been a lot of talk about that. Cars look great but that’s about it IMO. And I bought it day one because I was looking forward to it. No rose tinted glasses from me.

I won't be surprised if this plays a lot better than GT7 though. I love the whole style and essence and content of Gran Turismo, but the gameplay and physics? That's another matter.

Most Gran Turismo's have a very stiff, understeer heavy physics model than tbh is not very realistic.

Most of the Forza's have a more realistic, weightier physics model without the horrendous understeer that plagues GT. Better drifting as a result. Hopefully this one continues like that, just with higher fidelity.

@awp69 As someone who felt all GTs since GT4 look underwhelming visually, and very clinical, I think GT7 is a big step up.

Trial Mountain and the Tokyo tracks look excellent, the lighting model is very solid, weather effects good, and definitely has a less clinical look than previous entries.

This still needs polish of course but could look great! Those tree lod pop ins are pretty grim at present, but hopefully will be much better before release.
Im still miffed there's no giro on a 360 controller, a game like this needs instinctive analog control.
Im still lkely to stay playing GT7 then, just based on controller, but with with more polish this game could definitely end up being the better looker..