@Kaloudz so Zero is the best place to start but it has the absolute worst opening hour or so. That tutorial bit is such a slog but once you’re through it and the story hits it’s so good.
@Weebleman nah no way did you seem argumentative man. If someone had asked me before I might have said 2nd party but I feel like thats a relic from back in the day where we used to say Rare was 2nd party to Nintendo. Or even the “Capcom five” in the Gamecube days.
I just think Xbox and Playstation don’t see it that way anymore.
Either way it’s not 3rd party 🤣
But yea this isn’t Spiderman/God of War etc. but it does show Nixxes is sitting there with an Xbox dev kit, and that studio enjoys porting PS4 games.
@Weebleman my point is Playstation and Xbox see these games as first party. They own the IP and finance the game, so they see it as first party. They confirmed as much, whether you or I or @NishimuraX agree with it or not.
Xbox even took it a step further and said Ninja Gaiden 4 is first party. They don’t even own that IP.
Ultimately 1st or 3rd party is a matter of perspective. E.g. Forza Horizon 5 and Gears Reloaded are 1st party for Xbox. But from Sony’s perspective they are 3rd party.
@themightyant well i’m hearing “moving away from the console” as just that. I understand that hes saying “investors are speculating” but they are still discussing it. Not like any of the Sony staff said “no they’re not” (in regards to Microsoft moving away from the console).
@themightyant I don’t think it’s a random time to announce it. Sony just officially put out a fireside chat where they talk about Xbox dropping the console altogether. Xbox probably thought they should address that - i’m glad they did!
@Questionable_Duck yea i’ve made that point before about Sony being able to increase their share of a game sale. Microsoft is putting itself in a position where it has relinquished control.
Having a console on the market surely is such an advantageous position in the industry EVEN if you are in third place. You can help steer the industry in whichever way you like.
@Altaria_97 it means you can stream them if you own them (digitally surely) even if they aren’t on Gamepass. BUT I think you need to still have Gamepass to do so.
@Frmknst urm.. yea I will enjoy what I enjoy. The last 5 games I rolled credits on are Avowed, Split Fiction, South of Midnight, Blue Prince and now Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. All great games. I also like Dynasty Warriors.
So whilst TrueTrophies is an embarrassingly small sample of Playstation players with trophies unlocked - I thought i’d compare the games between eachother in terms of # of players on PS5:
11.3K - Sea of Thieves 7.5K - Forza Horizon 5 5.4K - Indiana Jones 5.4K - Hi-Fi Rush 4.4K - Grounded 1.1K - Age of Mythology 0.9K - Pentiment 0.2K - Age of Empires II (came out yesterday)
@Nintendo4Sonic Sony haven’t even given Lego Horizon, Patapon or Hot Shots golf lol.
When Xbox went multiplatform I either wanted it to fail spectacularly or actually do amazingly well. Since it seems to be doing well the only real benefits are that -
1) yes more cash to fund gamepass and more games from these IPs we love
2) happy Devs since they get their games out to as many as possible
3) maybe, just maybe, Sony shareholders are looking at this like 👀 “we want some of that”. Though if anything it will be more Switch releases than Xbox.
It makes sense for revenue of course but it’s just a shame they didn’t give their console much of a chance after the acquisitions. Imo Zenimax has been an incredible purchase and would have given Xbox almost a must have library single-handedly.
But it’s happening so whatever. Still think XGS should be exclusive and make ABK and Zenimax multiplat.
Do you not worry about your job? If everything is an Xbox and literally all the same games go everywhere then Xbox news is Playstation news etc.
Either way I think Sony is actually a scummy company and I will happily stick with the next Xbox instead.
I actually think this is one of the dumbest analysis. All it is saying is most people on Xbox are playing the game via their Gamepass subscription. Are these people getting paid for this? Fml
@IOI think you’re mistaking SIE for Playstation Studios. Bungie is a part of SIE, hence why I specified that. So no maybe not God of War or Spiderman, but maybe Patapon 🤣
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Re: Avowed Is Getting Its 'Biggest Update Yet' To Mark The Xbox Title's One-Year Anniversary
Loved Avowed. Glad to see it continue to get support.
Re: Three Yakuza Re-Releases To Be Discounted For Existing Owners On Xbox This December
@Kaloudz so Zero is the best place to start but it has the absolute worst opening hour or so. That tutorial bit is such a slog but once you’re through it and the story hits it’s so good.
Re: Three Yakuza Re-Releases To Be Discounted For Existing Owners On Xbox This December
@Sol4ris they do via Limited Run. But also new copies are releasing Dec 8th (i think around then).
Re: Xbox Developers Are Reportedly 'Thrilled' To Release Their Games On PS5
Yea of course. The Playstation devs would feel the same. Except for the extra porting work maybe.
Re: Seven New Games Added To Xbox Retro Classics, Including A PS1 Title From 1997
Aren’t these all in the Blizzard Arcade pack on Gamepass anyway?
Edit: yup https://www.xbox.com/en-gb/games/store/blizzard-arcade-collection/9nzp7nkr2qwg
Re: Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor Is Getting Huge Praise On Xbox Game Pass & PC
It’s so much fun. Played 2 hours on Xbox then continued on my Legion Go until it crashed another 2 hours later.
Very addictive.
Re: Talking Point: It's Not On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying The Indiana Jones DLC?
Got it for £15 from CDKeys so pretty happy with that. Looking forward to playing though got to re-learn the game.
Re: One Of The 'Worst Games Ever' Is Getting Remastered In A Beautiful Collection For Xbox
@Banjo- to be fair this is just a remaster which Banjo already got.
Re: Reminder: The Xbox Summer Sale 2025 Ends This Week
@Tasuki DQXIS is incredible. If you haven’t played it yet i’m jealous!
Re: Xbox Reporter Addresses Game Pass Confusion, Says It's Still A Profitable Service In 2025
Chris Dring is useless and him teaming up with Geoff Keighley is just rubbish for Xbox as they throw professionalism out the door to show their bias.
2 months ago he did the same thing and had to clarify then too.
Wish more people in the actual industry would call these 2 out; but I guess they don’t want to get blacklisted.
Re: Poll: Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
@Weebleman nah no way did you seem argumentative man. If someone had asked me before I might have said 2nd party but I feel like thats a relic from back in the day where we used to say Rare was 2nd party to Nintendo. Or even the “Capcom five” in the Gamecube days.
I just think Xbox and Playstation don’t see it that way anymore.
Either way it’s not 3rd party 🤣
But yea this isn’t Spiderman/God of War etc. but it does show Nixxes is sitting there with an Xbox dev kit, and that studio enjoys porting PS4 games.
Re: Poll: Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
@Questionable_Duck thank you!
Re: Poll: Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
@Weebleman my point is Playstation and Xbox see these games as first party. They own the IP and finance the game, so they see it as first party. They confirmed as much, whether you or I or @NishimuraX agree with it or not.
Xbox even took it a step further and said Ninja Gaiden 4 is first party. They don’t even own that IP.
Ultimately 1st or 3rd party is a matter of perspective. E.g. Forza Horizon 5 and Gears Reloaded are 1st party for Xbox. But from Sony’s perspective they are 3rd party.
Re: Poll: Helldivers 2 Isn't On Xbox Game Pass, So Will You Be Buying It?
@NishimuraX Helldivers II is as first party as MS Flight Simulator. Sony see it as First Party. This isn’t third party in the slightest bit.
Re: Helldivers 2 Developer Shuts Down Xbox Game Pass Rumour
Just buy it guys 🤦♂️. This could decide whether we get more from Playstation Publishing or not.
Re: DOOM Co-Creator Has Funding Pulled For AAA Title, Seemingly By Xbox
This sucks and I love the idea of them helping fund these studios (even experienced like Romero). Microsoft really went to town on Xbox.
In other news Helldivers 2 is coming to Xbox!
Re: Forza Motorsport Team Reportedly Loses 'Nearly 50% Of Staff' In Xbox Job Cuts
@S1ayeR74 I do wonder what the staff were doing for 7 years.
Either that slice we saw last year was fake… which is BAD, or they are cancelling a game that looked that good, which is BAD.
It’s just mind boggling. Feels a bit like Tango all over again (though different).
Re: Forza Motorsport Team Reportedly Loses 'Nearly 50% Of Staff' In Xbox Job Cuts
@SaltySpitoon957 Matt Booty
https://x.com/jezcorden/status/1940455715799511193?s=46&t=RZD8eqRuj7JRII0QVXd-fg
Re: Forza Motorsport Team Reportedly Loses 'Nearly 50% Of Staff' In Xbox Job Cuts
Perfect Dark is confirmed cancelled and The Initiative is closed. WTAF.
Re: After Half A Year, These Are The 10 Highest-Rated Xbox Games Of 2025
Those top 3 are special imo
Re: Xbox Officially Adds Steam Integration Via New PC App Feature
If they could somehow assign Xbox achievements to Steam games that would be wild! Never see it happening but just saying.
(I know there are a few Steam games that unlock Xbox achievements but those are first party).
Re: Xbox Announces Next-Gen Console Strategy, Promises 'Deeper Visuals' & Backwards Compatibility
@themightyant well i’m hearing “moving away from the console” as just that. I understand that hes saying “investors are speculating” but they are still discussing it. Not like any of the Sony staff said “no they’re not” (in regards to Microsoft moving away from the console).
Re: Xbox Announces Next-Gen Console Strategy, Promises 'Deeper Visuals' & Backwards Compatibility
@themightyant I can’t find the actual timestamp for it but this tweet (ignore the guy actually tweeting and his comments) clipped it https://x.com/passiveprophet/status/1935032212136530299?s=46&t=RZD8eqRuj7JRII0QVXd-fg
The guy asking the questions puts it forward.
Re: Xbox Announces Next-Gen Console Strategy, Promises 'Deeper Visuals' & Backwards Compatibility
@themightyant I don’t think it’s a random time to announce it. Sony just officially put out a fireside chat where they talk about Xbox dropping the console altogether. Xbox probably thought they should address that - i’m glad they did!
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
@J_Mo_Money yup the estimate was BS. Push square reported based on that BS and then it spread. He deleted the tweet because he got called out for it.
Re: PS5 Execs Questioned About Xbox 'Moving Away From Console' In Official Sony Interview
@Questionable_Duck yea i’ve made that point before about Sony being able to increase their share of a game sale. Microsoft is putting itself in a position where it has relinquished control.
Having a console on the market surely is such an advantageous position in the industry EVEN if you are in third place. You can help steer the industry in whichever way you like.
But they would rather be at Sony’s mercy.
Re: No, The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld Doesn't Play Native Console Games
It’s literally like my Legion Go then so i’m good.
But yea not sure how people misunderstood the article.
Re: Phil Spencer Teases Four Massive Xbox Games For 2026, Including A New Forza
When Phil says 4 we also know he means a lot more than that. So this is great news.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From June 2025's State Of Play
@FraserG very excited for that. Incredible game.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From June 2025's State Of Play
Yea so no FF Tactics? So why do SE keep saying they are multi-platform? Hoping it still gets announced as multiplat.
Nevermind - it’s multiplat:
https://x.com/finalfantasy/status/1930384421217284609?s=46&t=RZD8eqRuj7JRII0QVXd-fg
Re: Xbox May 2025 Update Introduces 'Retro Classics', New Play Anywhere Additions & GeForce Now On PC
@Altaria_97 it means you can stream them if you own them (digitally surely) even if they aren’t on Gamepass. BUT I think you need to still have Gamepass to do so.
Re: Xbox Fan Shares & Compares Recent Aggregate Review Scores For First-Party Releases
Oblivion is the best of them but if you ignore that since it’s a classic, and having not played Doom; I would rank the others:
Indiana Jones
Avowed
South of Midnight
Hellblade II
With the top 3 being great games. I think the metacritic is slightly too low for both Avowed and SoM.
Re: Here's A Look At The Updated Xbox Game Studios Roadmap From May 2025
@Frmknst urm.. yea I will enjoy what I enjoy. The last 5 games I rolled credits on are Avowed, Split Fiction, South of Midnight, Blue Prince and now Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. All great games. I also like Dynasty Warriors.
But you don’t sound snobby at all.
Re: Xbox Set For Another Winner As Tony Hawk 3+4 Previews Go Live
Very excited for this. 3 is one of my favourite games of all time and yet I didn’t play much of 4 back in the day.
Re: Here's A Look At The Updated Xbox Game Studios Roadmap From May 2025
@dreadful I play games for fun not because they have an impact. I think Xbox’s line up has been pretty awesome and has a lot of variety.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 'Another Success' For Xbox As It Passes 1M Sales On PS5
So whilst TrueTrophies is an embarrassingly small sample of Playstation players with trophies unlocked - I thought i’d compare the games between eachother in terms of # of players on PS5:
11.3K - Sea of Thieves
7.5K - Forza Horizon 5
5.4K - Indiana Jones
5.4K - Hi-Fi Rush
4.4K - Grounded
1.1K - Age of Mythology
0.9K - Pentiment
0.2K - Age of Empires II (came out yesterday)
Re: Xbox Is 'Spitting Pure Fire' Right Now, Says Baldur's Gate 3 Exec
Honestly they are keeping the industry interesting and have been the last couple of years.
The daily conversation in gaming has been about Xbox. They have the biggest and best showcase annually plus multiple others throughout the year.
They have games coming to every platform. And they have both quality and quantity.
I don’t understand the industry’s love for Playstation. Xbox is becoming an incredible games publisher. I wonder how long they can keep this up.
Re: Reaction: Gears Of War: Reloaded Makes Perfect Sense For Microsoft, But Not For Xbox Fans
@Nintendo4Sonic Sony haven’t even given Lego Horizon, Patapon or Hot Shots golf lol.
When Xbox went multiplatform I either wanted it to fail spectacularly or actually do amazingly well. Since it seems to be doing well the only real benefits are that -
1) yes more cash to fund gamepass and more games from these IPs we love
2) happy Devs since they get their games out to as many as possible
3) maybe, just maybe, Sony shareholders are looking at this like 👀 “we want some of that”. Though if anything it will be more Switch releases than Xbox.
Re: Xbox Announces Gears Of War: Reloaded, Releasing Summer 2025
I do wonder how many people will finish this on Playstation then try 2 and 3 on an actual Xbox instead of waiting for the Playstation versions.
Maybe 5?
Re: Xbox Announces Gears Of War: Reloaded, Releasing Summer 2025
@Lup another reason they’re the main target is because it’s a second remaster of this game. They love that kinda thing.
Re: Xbox Announces Gears Of War: Reloaded, Releasing Summer 2025
Excuse to release it on PS5 no doubt. But still should be great to revisit. Love this game so much.
Re: Xbox Price Hike 'Just The Beginning' For The Industry, Says Analyst
@Kloppo apparently the rest of the world is subsidising so the increase in the US doesn’t need to be as large as it could have been 🙄
Re: Xbox Price Hike 'Just The Beginning' For The Industry, Says Analyst
@IOI i agree but at least it’s not like to like.
2tb Series X went up $130(!) but “only” £40 for example. Still BS though.
Re: Xbox Is Raising The Price Of Consoles, Games And Accessories
Gotta help out Playstation any way they can.
Though interestingly the games going to $80 will affect more people on Playstation than Xbox due to not having the option of Gamepass.
Re: Indie Dev Defends Xbox Game Pass As Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Sells Most On PS5
The whole thing about looking at physical only uk only charts is that they just don’t tell us much.
But either way Switch copies quite often sell more than Playstation copies. That doesn’t mean Playstation isn’t viable. So same same for Xbox.
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Third-Party Strategy Is Finally Making Sense To Me
It makes sense for revenue of course but it’s just a shame they didn’t give their console much of a chance after the acquisitions. Imo Zenimax has been an incredible purchase and would have given Xbox almost a must have library single-handedly.
But it’s happening so whatever. Still think XGS should be exclusive and make ABK and Zenimax multiplat.
Do you not worry about your job? If everything is an Xbox and literally all the same games go everywhere then Xbox news is Playstation news etc.
Either way I think Sony is actually a scummy company and I will happily stick with the next Xbox instead.
Re: Indiana Jones 'Selling Faster' On PS5 Than Xbox & Steam, Says Analysis
I actually think this is one of the dumbest analysis. All it is saying is most people on Xbox are playing the game via their Gamepass subscription. Are these people getting paid for this? Fml
Re: Review: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (Xbox) - A Sublime Debut And One Of The Freshest RPGs In Ages
Very excited to play this. Giving me Lost Odyssey vibes.
Re: Roundup: The First Impressions Of Marathon Are In
@cragis0001 I mean there is always the chance it turns out to be incredible too. But guess we shall see.
Re: Roundup: The First Impressions Of Marathon Are In
@IOI think you’re mistaking SIE for Playstation Studios. Bungie is a part of SIE, hence why I specified that. So no maybe not God of War or Spiderman, but maybe Patapon 🤣