This is a huge educated guess from Jez. We all know this is what Satya wants. So he wrote an article about it since he has a platform. Everyone is just running with it.
@GamingFan4Lyf Phil’s job at this point would be to push back since he understands the industry better than Satya. Let’s hope he is doing that.
But this is just more BS. Not saying other games wont go multiplat because they probably will - but this isn’t a story. Jez doesn’t know anything. It’s a story when Xbox confirms it.
Square Enix (and to a much lesser extent, Insomniac) are the only reason I have a PS5. So yea, bring it all to Xbox and I will buy them all over again to show my support. Hopefully they stick to it this time unlike the last wave we got in 2019-2020 (Kingdom Hearts/Dragon Quest etc).
@NEStalgia I might get the Series X version just to have it. Never the PS version.
@Tecinthehead the pennies don’t go to the developers anyway right? Even if they are alive… surely it would have always gone to Bethesda, and then to Microsoft Gaming’s pot.
I want Xbox consoles to continue and I want them to survive and actually do well. Even if they are never first place. I don’t care about that, third place is fine! So for that reason I don’t think they should put any of their single-player focused games on Playstation (including and especially Halo and Gears).
In my opinion even Pentiment was a bad idea to port. It is all taking away from their exclusive library.
And yet… they seem to really wanna ***** do it.
And for the record it’s not because I want to take away from Playstation players. At all. It’s just that I can see this killing Xbox. And if someone really wants to play Gears and Rare Replay and Starfield, I really would have liked if they bought an Xbox to support… not the trillion dollar company, but Xbox itself.
Also also: why didn’t they just keep everything exclusive except for the entirety of ABK. Surely the multiplatform revenue from ABK (plus Mojang and Zenimax Online) would be enough? Thick.
@PrinceOfPorgs98 I still have them digitally on my Xbox luckily but yes I really liked the first one. Never finished the second, maybe I should fix that.
This will be one big dump of games and re-listings on June 9th. I think there will be games like the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games being dropped that day too.
@PassePartout even for developers it would be bad if it’s just Sony.
If Sony was alone in the High end console space they could easily, outside of ongoing contracts, up their PSN store share from 30/70 to 40/60 if they wanted to. The whole thing would crumble. Xbox needs to fix up for the customers, for their staff, and for the industry as a whole.
That 40/60 would even hit Microsoft as a third party publisher but they would have no choice.
@Olliemar28 sounds like when he left he possibly took a lot of the staff with him? According to twitter right now at least… so potentially he contributed to its closure?
@cragis0001 even if you are right and there is a high staff turnover. I would have though having that stepping stone into Japan development would be worth the struggle.
Plus you could always just give the studio what it wants to keep them happy (granted I know it’s never that simple).
Their only Japanese studio. They finally get a studio in Japan, create an incredible stylish single-player AA game. And they close the studio and lose their only foothold in Japan.
Mind = Blown
The fact that going multi-platform didn’t save the studio….
Roundhouse isn’t shutting it is being merged with Zenimax online; which makes sense as they have been relegated to a support studio since Bethesda saved them.
Arkane Austin I can kind of understand though it’s still shutting a studio that could be contributing to your output. Not sure what the state of it has been since Redfall.
Alpha Dog is interesting since they said they wanted to increase their mobile presence. Though I guess they have their reasons.
But Tango!? They should be spinning out studios from Tango to increase their Japanese presence. What.
Don’t need a remaster of Fallout 3 or NV yet since they work so well on Series X (seriously, can people please try BC?). I would love for them to fast track a new one but not at the expense of Elder Scrolls. They definitely should create a new team to handle it.
Fallout and Elder Scrolls are 2 of the biggest franchises in gaming and you have pretty much the same team rotating between the two (and Starfield) 😢.
@OldGamer999 I mean yea it kind of is. Say what you want about Phil Spencer but he is correct that the console market isn’t growing. So these companies will start doing whatever they need to to get a new audience. If that is smaller games or more GAAS then sure.
The only consoles to truly ever break the mould and get that peak market are PS2 (early DVD player), the DS and the Wii (casual). The DS and Wii being on the market at the same time. The Switch can’t even get close to that.
Playstation also has to show growth to its investors hence the PC releases. But if it’s not enough they will have to pivot too.
@OldGamer999 sorry but that is one of the points of an acquisition. Of course they incorporated a revenue bump into their financials.
For the record, anytime Playstation “purchases” a third party exclusive their revenue goes up too. Their costs go up, sure, but when you are reporting revenue it “makes them look good”.
@tho_mi touchè. Switch it with Helldivers then. Same thing - or does that not count because Sony doesn’t own the developer? Regardless the point still stands - switch FFXVI for a first party game.
As I have mentioned elsewhere I would much rather have had access to the game for the last 6 years than to have an extra pixel of shadow on a tree.
For the porting of the game to Playstation - it’s probably a different team, with different priorities and it is a different decade. So things change.
It anything it’s a natural progression of tech and experience and the teams at Xbox should be praised for doing their best and not holding the PS version back unnecessarily like Jim Ryan accused them of potentially doing.
Also if Final Fantasy XVI comes to Xbox and has another pixel of detail on Torgal’s balls then does that mean Xbox wins? Or is it still better to have had the game for a year of your life?
@Lup I agree unfortunately. There is bias against Xbox across the industry no matter what people say. Only Metro has blatantly said it so far but that doesn’t mean other reviewers don’t adopt it too. Depends who is reviewing.
Thing is, this is Xbox’s “poniest” game so far. So really it should review well.
What will confuse things is if the reviewers are unsure if it will come to Playstation eventually. Their minds were almost blown when they had to figure out how to review Deathloop and Ghostwire.
Got all 105 achievements/3000gs for this and loved every second. For those that haven’t played it - it’s a very good addition to Gamepass. But yea I assume most people have tried it already.
You know on Disney+ where they have Disney, Pixar, Star, Marvel, Star Wars and NatGeo as categories… Xbox is pretty much at that point where Gamepass can have XGS, Zenimax, ABK and then Third Party. Each being a massive selection.
Plus leave some space for when they acquire Sega and Square Enix (😉 Jk).
I still use my 360 for certain games. The games work fine but the dashboard itself is so slow unfortunately. Was playing Saw the other day as I just got a copy.
I have heard that if you joined a hacked lobby in one of these games - all the achievements could pop but you then can get banned. Even if you didn’t know it was hacked when you joined. So i’m worried about the multiplayer.
I wouldn’t mind trying the Black Ops series out since I liked Cold War. Also want to try Modern Warfare 2019 and its sequels.
It’s quite funny that these are the rumours given that:
1) i’m sure Microsoft said (ahead of the developer_direct) there would be a separate event for the ABK Gamepass additions
2) yea Avowed, IJ, and FS2024 are all due this year so makes complete sense to give them dates.
3) Gears 6 is very likely to be there given that the Coalition is one of the few that haven’t announced their games yet after years since the last release (along with id and Double Fine).
@NEStalgia everyone knows the Mini Fridge industry isn’t growing. Gotta find a new way to monetise. Plus if you try a Mountain Dew from a Samsung it might encourage you to buy an Xbox Mini Fridge for the 2nd one.
Just got Back4Blood Ultimate edition for £9.99. Supposedly you can play the dlc with a friend without them owning it. So planning to smash through the DLCs before the game leaves.
If this thing can play my Xbox library - they could announce that not a SINGLE new game would come to Xbox ever again and I would still buy this thing day one. My Xbox library is huge - it would be worth it.
As someone who used to hate the mogstation and find it pretty confusing - i’s be happy if I can buy the sub through the Xbox store. Hopefully see you guys on there!
@ATaco xbox owns the Ori IP I believe and published the games. The Switch versions even have Xbox achievements. But this guy is definitely upset about Gamepass even though it is what funded them in the first place.
This is great - i loved AOM when it first came out. Remember completing the campaign and really enjoying it. Back when I used to spend ages on each game.
I do think it’s possible that if Xbox has success with their multiplats - the shareholders of Sony might lick their lips and encourage a few more trials on Xbox and Nintendo’s next console. Even Sony answers to someone.
But it will just be the live service select titles. Not the flagship AAA.
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Re: Rumour: Xbox Planning To Bring More Games To PS5, Despite Some 'Unease' At Microsoft
This is a huge educated guess from Jez. We all know this is what Satya wants. So he wrote an article about it since he has a platform. Everyone is just running with it.
@GamingFan4Lyf Phil’s job at this point would be to push back since he understands the industry better than Satya. Let’s hope he is doing that.
But this is just more BS. Not saying other games wont go multiplat because they probably will - but this isn’t a story. Jez doesn’t know anything. It’s a story when Xbox confirms it.
Re: Starfield Comparison Shows Differences Between 30FPS & 60FPS Modes On Xbox Series X
@lacerz Jez already said it’s been taken out of context.
Re: Bethesda Trademark Hints At New DOOM Announcement For Xbox Games Showcase
I’m very excited for the showcase. Tango was a stupid decision but the games Xbox is bringing are still exciting to me. So much variety.
Add another Doom to the list 🔥 This should be a very good watch!
Re: Square Enix To Include Xbox As Part Of 'Aggressive' New Multiplatform Strategy
Square Enix (and to a much lesser extent, Insomniac) are the only reason I have a PS5. So yea, bring it all to Xbox and I will buy them all over again to show my support. Hopefully they stick to it this time unlike the last wave we got in 2019-2020 (Kingdom Hearts/Dragon Quest etc).
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Limited Run Physical Release Is Still Happening
@NEStalgia 😂😂 fair. I just can’t support their PS releases myself.
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Limited Run Physical Release Is Still Happening
@NEStalgia I might get the Series X version just to have it. Never the PS version.
@Tecinthehead the pennies don’t go to the developers anyway right? Even if they are alive… surely it would have always gone to Bethesda, and then to Microsoft Gaming’s pot.
Re: Xbox Is Reportedly 'Considering' Hellblade 2 For PlayStation 5
I want Xbox consoles to continue and I want them to survive and actually do well. Even if they are never first place. I don’t care about that, third place is fine! So for that reason I don’t think they should put any of their single-player focused games on Playstation (including and especially Halo and Gears).
In my opinion even Pentiment was a bad idea to port. It is all taking away from their exclusive library.
And yet… they seem to really wanna ***** do it.
And for the record it’s not because I want to take away from Playstation players. At all. It’s just that I can see this killing Xbox. And if someone really wants to play Gears and Rare Replay and Starfield, I really would have liked if they bought an Xbox to support… not the trillion dollar company, but Xbox itself.
Also also: why didn’t they just keep everything exclusive except for the entirety of ABK. Surely the multiplatform revenue from ABK (plus Mojang and Zenimax Online) would be enough? Thick.
Re: Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures
@HonestHick haha same…
…😭
Re: Xbox Appears To Be Getting Ready For Crash Bandicoot On Game Pass
@PrinceOfPorgs98 I still have them digitally on my Xbox luckily but yes I really liked the first one. Never finished the second, maybe I should fix that.
Re: Xbox Appears To Be Getting Ready For Crash Bandicoot On Game Pass
@OldGamer999 nothing wrong with that.
This will be one big dump of games and re-listings on June 9th. I think there will be games like the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games being dropped that day too.
Re: Latest Rumours Suggest Perfect Dark Reboot Isn't Going Smoothly At Xbox
@PassePartout even for developers it would be bad if it’s just Sony.
If Sony was alone in the High end console space they could easily, outside of ongoing contracts, up their PSN store share from 30/70 to 40/60 if they wanted to. The whole thing would crumble. Xbox needs to fix up for the customers, for their staff, and for the industry as a whole.
That 40/60 would even hit Microsoft as a third party publisher but they would have no choice.
Re: Redfall's Offline Update Was Reportedly Planned For This Month, Prior To Arkane Shutdown
Oh FFS. These online only games should all get an offline patch to make them at least archive-able if nothing else. What a waste.
Re: Tango Gameworks Founder Responds To Xbox Shutting Down Studio
@Olliemar28 sounds like when he left he possibly took a lot of the staff with him? According to twitter right now at least… so potentially he contributed to its closure?
Re: Xbox Is Shutting Four Studios, Including Arkane Austin And Tango Gameworks
@cragis0001 even if you are right and there is a high staff turnover. I would have though having that stepping stone into Japan development would be worth the struggle.
Plus you could always just give the studio what it wants to keep them happy (granted I know it’s never that simple).
Re: Xbox Is Shutting Four Studios, Including Arkane Austin And Tango Gameworks
Their only Japanese studio. They finally get a studio in Japan, create an incredible stylish single-player AA game. And they close the studio and lose their only foothold in Japan.
Mind = Blown
The fact that going multi-platform didn’t save the studio….
Roundhouse isn’t shutting it is being merged with Zenimax online; which makes sense as they have been relegated to a support studio since Bethesda saved them.
Arkane Austin I can kind of understand though it’s still shutting a studio that could be contributing to your output. Not sure what the state of it has been since Redfall.
Alpha Dog is interesting since they said they wanted to increase their mobile presence. Though I guess they have their reasons.
But Tango!? They should be spinning out studios from Tango to increase their Japanese presence. What.
Re: Phil Spencer Set To Take Part In Big Interview After 2024 Xbox Games Showcase
Did they just shut Tango Gameworks…?
I’m sorry wtf. That is unforgiveable. There are valid reasons for the other 3 studios perhaps; but Tango!?
Re: Xbox Is Hosting Another 'Buy One, Get Two Free' Sale This Week
Urm sounds like some big bad Xbox studio news is about to hit….
Re: Former Xbox Exec Reminded Of Important 'Mantra' Amidst Helldivers 2 Chaos
@IOI nobody actually knows that, however likely it might be. They might scrap all those plans. So the 4 games so far…is true.
Re: Microsoft & CI Games Strike Deal For Two New Xbox Game Pass Additions
@FatGuyInLilCoat yess found the other guy who enjoyed the first Lords of the Fallen!
Re: Xbox's Gaming Revenue Is Up 51% YoY Following Activision Blizzard Acquisition
@rockodoodle no I agree with you but if they hit PS2’s record, the market still hasn’t grown. Not really, at least not a substantial amount.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Like To See Xbox Focus On A New Fallout Game?
Don’t need a remaster of Fallout 3 or NV yet since they work so well on Series X (seriously, can people please try BC?). I would love for them to fast track a new one but not at the expense of Elder Scrolls. They definitely should create a new team to handle it.
Fallout and Elder Scrolls are 2 of the biggest franchises in gaming and you have pretty much the same team rotating between the two (and Starfield) 😢.
Re: Xbox's Gaming Revenue Is Up 51% YoY Following Activision Blizzard Acquisition
@OldGamer999 I mean yea it kind of is. Say what you want about Phil Spencer but he is correct that the console market isn’t growing. So these companies will start doing whatever they need to to get a new audience. If that is smaller games or more GAAS then sure.
The only consoles to truly ever break the mould and get that peak market are PS2 (early DVD player), the DS and the Wii (casual). The DS and Wii being on the market at the same time. The Switch can’t even get close to that.
Playstation also has to show growth to its investors hence the PC releases. But if it’s not enough they will have to pivot too.
Re: Xbox's Gaming Revenue Is Up 51% YoY Following Activision Blizzard Acquisition
@OldGamer999 sorry but that is one of the points of an acquisition. Of course they incorporated a revenue bump into their financials.
For the record, anytime Playstation “purchases” a third party exclusive their revenue goes up too. Their costs go up, sure, but when you are reporting revenue it “makes them look good”.
Re: Fallout 4's Quality Mode Is Reportedly Bugged On Xbox Series X|S Right Now
@Smigit Playstation version seems to have a lot of crashing; and the PC version is having issues with the screen size.
That said, it worked perfectly for me yesterday on Series X but I didn’t even check the settings - so I guess I was in FPS mode.
Re: Sea Of Thieves On PS5 Has Slight Edge Over Xbox Series X, Notes Digital Foundry
@tho_mi touchè. Switch it with Helldivers then. Same thing - or does that not count because Sony doesn’t own the developer? Regardless the point still stands - switch FFXVI for a first party game.
Re: Sea Of Thieves On PS5 Has Slight Edge Over Xbox Series X, Notes Digital Foundry
@Yorozayu i’ve finished FFXVI so I understood that reference. Maybe the Xbox version has balls! Who knows.
Re: Sea Of Thieves On PS5 Has Slight Edge Over Xbox Series X, Notes Digital Foundry
As I have mentioned elsewhere I would much rather have had access to the game for the last 6 years than to have an extra pixel of shadow on a tree.
For the porting of the game to Playstation - it’s probably a different team, with different priorities and it is a different decade. So things change.
It anything it’s a natural progression of tech and experience and the teams at Xbox should be praised for doing their best and not holding the PS version back unnecessarily like Jim Ryan accused them of potentially doing.
Also if Final Fantasy XVI comes to Xbox and has another pixel of detail on Torgal’s balls then does that mean Xbox wins? Or is it still better to have had the game for a year of your life?
Re: PlayStation Exclusive 'Kena: Bridge Of Spirits' Rated For Xbox Series X|S
Good game! Not mindblowing but was a solid PS2-style game with nice visuals. Worth a playthrough.
Re: Talking Point: Will Hellblade 2 Be A Genuine Game Of The Year Contender This Year?
@Lup I agree unfortunately. There is bias against Xbox across the industry no matter what people say. Only Metro has blatantly said it so far but that doesn’t mean other reviewers don’t adopt it too. Depends who is reviewing.
Thing is, this is Xbox’s “poniest” game so far. So really it should review well.
What will confuse things is if the reviewers are unsure if it will come to Playstation eventually. Their minds were almost blown when they had to figure out how to review Deathloop and Ghostwire.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Seems To Be Preparing For The Next Activision Blizzard Drop
Got all 105 achievements/3000gs for this and loved every second. For those that haven’t played it - it’s a very good addition to Gamepass. But yea I assume most people have tried it already.
You know on Disney+ where they have Disney, Pixar, Star, Marvel, Star Wars and NatGeo as categories… Xbox is pretty much at that point where Gamepass can have XGS, Zenimax, ABK and then Third Party. Each being a massive selection.
Plus leave some space for when they acquire Sega and Square Enix (😉 Jk).
Re: If Q1 Is Anything To Go By, 2024 Should Be Another Fantastic Year On Xbox
Infinite Wealth was incredible - Palworld was fun. But i’m also pulled back into FFXIV thanks to Xbox. So yea it’s on daily for me.
Re: Time Is Running Out For Hundreds Of Games On The Xbox 360 Store
I still use my 360 for certain games. The games work fine but the dashboard itself is so slow unfortunately. Was playing Saw the other day as I just got a copy.
Re: Talking Point: Which Classic COD Would You Play First On Xbox Game Pass?
I have heard that if you joined a hacked lobby in one of these games - all the achievements could pop but you then can get banned. Even if you didn’t know it was hacked when you joined. So i’m worried about the multiplayer.
I wouldn’t mind trying the Black Ops series out since I liked Cold War. Also want to try Modern Warfare 2019 and its sequels.
Re: Rumour: Multiple Reveals Confirmed Ahead Of June's Xbox Showcase
It’s quite funny that these are the rumours given that:
1) i’m sure Microsoft said (ahead of the developer_direct) there would be a separate event for the ABK Gamepass additions
2) yea Avowed, IJ, and FS2024 are all due this year so makes complete sense to give them dates.
3) Gears 6 is very likely to be there given that the Coalition is one of the few that haven’t announced their games yet after years since the last release (along with id and Double Fine).
Man these insiders sure are smart!
Re: Hellblade 1's Director Is No Longer Part Of Ninja Theory, Confirms Xbox
Lots of people saying he left years ago 🤷♂️
Re: Xbox Series X|S Versions Of Hellblade 2 Confirmed To Run At 30FPS
I played FFXVI and Starfield at 30FPS and haven’t thrown up once so I think I will be fine.
Re: Walmart Is Practically Giving Away The Xbox Mini Fridge Right Now
@NEStalgia everyone knows the Mini Fridge industry isn’t growing. Gotta find a new way to monetise. Plus if you try a Mountain Dew from a Samsung it might encourage you to buy an Xbox Mini Fridge for the 2nd one.
Re: Six Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Early April 2024
Just got Back4Blood Ultimate edition for £9.99. Supposedly you can play the dlc with a friend without them owning it. So planning to smash through the DLCs before the game leaves.
Re: Xbox's Hi-Fi RUSH Actually Has 'Slightly' Improved Visuals On PS5
I’d rather get the game over a year earlier than have an extra grain of detail in the shadow
Re: Major Game Maker Reportedly Questioning Xbox Support Amidst 'Falling Sales'
Whilst I agree the direction Xbox is going in is worrying…
This is all according to one random chooch who is also known to dislike Xbox. So… yea.
Re: Xbox Boss On Handheld Rumours: Hardware Team Considering Different 'Form Factors'
@abe_hikura yea I was so close to buying a ROG Ally but it needs native Xbox support. I’m really holding out for one.
Re: Xbox Boss On Handheld Rumours: Hardware Team Considering Different 'Form Factors'
If this thing can play my Xbox library - they could announce that not a SINGLE new game would come to Xbox ever again and I would still buy this thing day one. My Xbox library is huge - it would be worth it.
Re: Final Fantasy XIV Online: Xbox Release Times Confirmed Ahead Of Full Launch
As someone who used to hate the mogstation and find it pretty confusing - i’s be happy if I can buy the sub through the Xbox store. Hopefully see you guys on there!
Re: Ninja Theory Shares Four New Screenshots From Hellblade 2's Photo Mode
I mean graphically it looks incredible. Especially that last shot.
Re: Deliver Us The Moon Dev Issues Plea To Publishers, Says It's The Team's 'Last Resort'
Nice if Xbox could publish 4 of them (leaving out the VR one); but I assume they were already pitched to.
Re: Ori Dev Criticises 'Senseless Arguments' Between Xbox & PlayStation Fans
@GeeEssEff ah yea you are right my mistake. Maybe he had no say at the point it did enter Gamepass.
Re: Ori Dev Criticises 'Senseless Arguments' Between Xbox & PlayStation Fans
@ATaco xbox owns the Ori IP I believe and published the games. The Switch versions even have Xbox achievements. But this guy is definitely upset about Gamepass even though it is what funded them in the first place.
Re: High On Life Is Getting A Physical 'GOTY' Edition For Xbox Series X
Pre-orders close March 31st FYI - the article says March 1st 😉
Re: Age Of Mythology: Retold Coming To Xbox, PC And Game Pass In 2024
This is great - i loved AOM when it first came out. Remember completing the campaign and really enjoying it. Back when I used to spend ages on each game.
Re: Talking Point: Will Certain PlayStation & Nintendo Games Eventually Come To Xbox?
I do think it’s possible that if Xbox has success with their multiplats - the shareholders of Sony might lick their lips and encourage a few more trials on Xbox and Nintendo’s next console. Even Sony answers to someone.
But it will just be the live service select titles. Not the flagship AAA.