Don't they say this every year? Have they ever said "we are a little worried about are showcase and the games". I will say after the last few have been pretty damn good though and I prefer Xboxs showcase over any of the others.
Wish they could have spread the love a little more evenly throughout the year. It'll be late May till we get a game that takes 5 hours to beat. But those titles do look great and can't wait for Indy amd Avowed
@AccessibleDaydream migraines are the worst. I never really got them until recently and now I understand how crippling they can be when they are at their peak.
Bought the game and played for a bit. Fun for a couple hours, but after doing like 10 trials it got repetitive for me. While they have a bunch of skills and upgrades that unlock the more you play, it still didn't encourage me to keep grinding. Also it started taking a long time to find a match and rarely ever a full one even with crossplay.
Having a hard time getting into a game lately. I keep starting one and getting bored after a couple hours. I'll probably check out something light like botany manor today until this slump passes
I am part of the problem. I hardly buy games anymore. With new games coming onto gamepass every 2 weeks, I always have stuff to play/try. I buy like 1 game a year. Forgive me.
@CutchuSlow I mean, i like to know MS's plans for 2024. If I'm going to invest in a platform I'd like to know they have a solid lineup coming in the next several months. Obviously we have to live in the 'now' but to know the future plans of a company is not asking to much.
@ValentineMeikin this is the perfect game that should go multiplat. A free to play live service type fighter that desperately needs a player base to survive. All single player and key franchises (indy, starfield, halo, gears, fable etc.) should remain exclusive. But obviously they are gonna put those on PS too eventually
Checking out some Outlast Trials. It's pretty fun when you play with people (even though I just play with randoms), but I can see it getting very repetitive quickly. Plus I think the player base is already suffering cause even though I have crossplay enabled it can time out for taking to long to find a match/group. But when you do find a full group it has been fun.
@Friendly I like a lot of the indies too, but i dont think creating a 3rd tier will fix the problem of MS not shelling out big $$ like they used to for indie studios in order to secure their game on gamepass, which is the issue they are referring to. MS is instead offering them smaller amounts since they are in a much better position (in terms for in house studios and gamepass subs) then they were a few years ago. It's funny though cause even with now 40ish first party studios, we are still going half a year without a single new first party game
I have a feeling Jedi Survivor should be hitting gamepass ultimate soon, since it'll be part of EA access. I believe I read most games will hit EA access at the 1 year mark which is coming up. Dead Space remake was right about then
@Phil-Spencer-Gate Well I guess MS wins by default this year then? Cause I don't think Sony has a single first party release that I know of. But if we are counting 2024 console exclusives, it is subjective who has the better lineup.
I currently only have an Xbox but lately been thinking about getting a PS cause I think those games interest me a bit more. Plus if I own both it's a win win.
@Phil-Spencer-Gate I know, I said they are not first party, but they are only playable (console wise) on playststion. They are some of the biggest releases of the year not playable on xbox. And when Sony says multiplatform I belive they are referring to PC. They likely won't put any first party games on xbox. I do have high hopes for avowed and Indiana Jones, but right now the exclusives in the first half they year in PS are very good.
That said i am excited for Xboxs first party lineup going forward, I just feel like with their now like 30+ studios they should be pumping out high quality exclusives like a well oiled machine at this point
@Phil-Spencer-Gate "While having a better lineup than Sony". That is subjective. Sony has already released Helldivers 2, Finally Fantasy 7 Rebirth, about to release Rise of the Ronin, followed by Stellar Blade. MS will release hellblade 2 in the first 6 months. I know those aren't first party, but they aren't on xbox so it is part of Sonys lineup and those games are reviewing amazingly so far. I'm not sure how Avowed will be, it looked clunky to me, but I hope it is good. Indiana Jones will likely be the highlight for xbox this year.
@Rangers420 I actually really liked the prototype games. Beat them both when they came out, not sure how well they've aged but was always hoping for a prototype 3
@CallMeDuraSouka Sony is starting to put some games on PC but u don't see any of the games coming to xbox. MS console sales are too small for Sony to care to appease to that market, because a chunk of those xbox sales are people who own both xbox and PS5 console owners (making the market even smaller).
If given the Resident Evil or Dead space level treatment I'm all for it, if it is just a resolution bump or fps bump I won't buy the same game twice for that.
Can you choose who you want to crossplay with? For example you only want to crossplay with other players on PS5 for mortal Kombat matchmaking? I know it doesn't matter too much for these games but down the road if they do cross play with fps games, I'd be okay with crossplaying with ps5 players but not mouse and keyboard players
State of decay 3 (feel like it's been a while since announced), Everwild update, Gears 6 and/or Tactics 2, ID studio update, Fable release date, forza horizon 6
Nice, have yet to play this but loved the first one. Looks like now is a good time to check it out. Currently playing dead island 2 and resident evil 3 on GP (I know, zombies up the a**).
@CutchuSlow to be fair they said major "releases", not major "games". Expansions on the level of like cyberpunk or witcher 3 certainly can be considered as a major release, even though it's not a new game
@Sol4ris just curious, can you name 1 game that would thrive on a low player count? You make it seem like hi fi rush makes sense cause itll thrive on many platforms, but it is single player. So you must mean it'll thrive because of sales. Which, wouldn't all games thrive because of more sales?
@XboxistheBestBox Did you expect Monday at 12:01 a.m. for them to talk about it? They said next week (last week) and Thursday is within the time they said no?
@abe_hikura This. There has to be a reason to buy a console and that is exactly what exclusives do. Take away the exclusives and you have no reason to really even get one.
Everything I see is MS is slowly replacing the term "xbox" with "console". Which suggests they sre ditching xbox. They had every opportunity to stop the rumors. It is happening. It is sad.
@themightyant aren't all dishonored games already on playstation? And there isn't any sign that they are making a new one so maybe that is why it wasn't voted
@Kaloudz I liked Wo Long as well and managed to beat it. Haven't tried lies of p yet but it is on my list. I heard they've patched some of the harder bosses
@Lightning720 I really don't think people are questioning MS's ability to make money. Everyone knows they are a trillion dollar company. People are upset because for the past decade they've been all over the place, reversing decisions, going in different directions, firing studios, and then going almost 2 years without a single first party exclusive only to release Redfall after all that time. Those who patiently stuck through it all and thought "finally, Xbox has a ton of studios now and is gonna start pumping out the exclusives and all that waiting was worth it" only for MS to say they'll release them everywhere. It really isna slap in the face. And yes, I guess it shows you shouldn't have "brand loyalty" and this is the risk you take and obviously they're gonna go where the money is. But that doesn't mean people can't be upset about it.
Welp. sounds like it is true. If this had a hint of false he would shut it down via X and say we will clarify more next week.
They need a week to put together a generic but heartfelt basic PR message: "Here at Xbox, we love all gamers and feel that our games should reach as many people as possible, so we've made the creative decision to put X, Y, Z on as many platforms as possible, and all future games will be on a case by case basis"
Translation: "We dont have time to wait 2 - 3 years to release great exclusives and finally win back the market share. So we are waving the white flag."
@Kaloudz I kind of agree with losing 'fan trust'. It is blowing up on twitter (X). People aren't happy. So if the game scores well or looks to be a banger it'l be multiplat. But they'll leave the crap (redfall) exclusive to the fans? I'm okay with putting GaaS multiplat (Diablo, Sea of Thieves etc.) but single player games should remain exclusive to their platform. Also, you say it is case by case, but we all know this 'case by case' will just happen to magically make sense for all future games. Especially when the money starts flowing in.
@Widey85 Agreed. If this was false I think MS would've been very quick to shut it down knowing that if it spreads people will stop buying Xbox. They've been radio silent about it. They say case by case, but once they see the money and sales they generate from PS and Ninetendo, it will be an all the time. I've been with Xbox since the OG but if this is true I'll likely start investing in the PS ecosystem as i will get to play their exclusives and apparently MS as well.
Still Sea Of Stars. I've almost given up on it a few times now but always pull myself back in cause I really don't like not finishing games after I've invested several hours. It is fun, but these types of games (turn based rpgs) have never really been my style. But I was trying to branch out of my comfort zone. It was a nice palate cleanser from dead space
@themightyant honestly I kinda assumed it was coming to gamepass. I guess I just got into the habit (which isn't a good habit) of assuming all MS exclusive deals as well as first party meant gamepass. Especially if they had it at a developer direct like that where all the other games were day 1 gamepass.
Still trekking through Sea Of Stars. It is definitely fun, but to me combat is getting a little repetitive. I never really play jrpgs so maybe this is just how they are? Still fun and I plan to try and see it through the end. I believe I am over halfway.
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Re: Microsoft & CI Games Strike Deal For Two New Xbox Game Pass Additions
Nice, I actually enjoyed the first Lords Of The Fallen, so looking forward to checking out the reboot
Re: Xbox Is Apparently 'Very Confident' In Its 2024 Summer Showcase Lineup
Don't they say this every year? Have they ever said "we are a little worried about are showcase and the games". I will say after the last few have been pretty damn good though and I prefer Xboxs showcase over any of the others.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 4-5)
Finishing Dead Island 2 then probably start Jedi Survivor.
Re: Rumoured Xbox Release Dates For 2024 Hint At Big End To The Year
Wish they could have spread the love a little more evenly throughout the year. It'll be late May till we get a game that takes 5 hours to beat. But those titles do look great and can't wait for Indy amd Avowed
Re: Hands On: XDefiant - Ubisoft's Server Test Has Us Hooked For The Full Release
@AccessibleDaydream migraines are the worst. I never really got them until recently and now I understand how crippling they can be when they are at their peak.
Re: EA's Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Appears To Be Heading To Xbox Game Pass
I figured it had to be soon. Usually EA games hit EA play after about the 1 year mark.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 20-21)
Dead Island 2, but will likely switch to fallout 4 when the update comes out. Never played fallout 4 so it'll be the perfect time to do so
Re: New Xbox Games Release Dates In 2024
My top picks:
Black Myth Wukong
Indiana Jones
Hollowknight
Avowed
Stalker 2
Probably some others that look good but those are definite playthroughs for me
Re: The Outlast Trials Gets Its First Update Since 2024 Xbox Launch
Bought the game and played for a bit. Fun for a couple hours, but after doing like 10 trials it got repetitive for me. While they have a bunch of skills and upgrades that unlock the more you play, it still didn't encourage me to keep grinding. Also it started taking a long time to find a match and rarely ever a full one even with crossplay.
Re: Ori Dev's 'No Rest For The Wicked' Re-Confirmed For Xbox, PC Early Access Starts This Week
Excited for this one. Very talented studio!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 13-14)
Having a hard time getting into a game lately. I keep starting one and getting bored after a couple hours. I'll probably check out something light like botany manor today until this slump passes
Re: Saber Interactive CEO Reckons $70 Game Prices Will Go Away
I am part of the problem. I hardly buy games anymore. With new games coming onto gamepass every 2 weeks, I always have stuff to play/try. I buy like 1 game a year. Forgive me.
Re: Rumour: Multiple Reveals Confirmed Ahead Of June's Xbox Showcase
@CutchuSlow I mean, i like to know MS's plans for 2024. If I'm going to invest in a platform I'd like to know they have a solid lineup coming in the next several months. Obviously we have to live in the 'now' but to know the future plans of a company is not asking to much.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 30-31)
@Kieduss *Blizzard acquisition
Re: Killer Instinct Bonus Update Adds New Stage And '87 New Colorways'
@ValentineMeikin this is the perfect game that should go multiplat. A free to play live service type fighter that desperately needs a player base to survive. All single player and key franchises (indy, starfield, halo, gears, fable etc.) should remain exclusive. But obviously they are gonna put those on PS too eventually
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 30-31)
Checking out some Outlast Trials. It's pretty fun when you play with people (even though I just play with randoms), but I can see it getting very repetitive quickly. Plus I think the player base is already suffering cause even though I have crossplay enabled it can time out for taking to long to find a match/group. But when you do find a full group it has been fun.
Re: Leaked Images Reveal 'First Look' At White, All-Digital Xbox Series X
@Matthewnh you didn't have to read that far, it is literally in the title of the article "All digital Xbox Series X".
Re: Xbox Game Pass Indie Deals Have 'Come Down In Scope', Claim Devs
@Friendly I like a lot of the indies too, but i dont think creating a 3rd tier will fix the problem of MS not shelling out big $$ like they used to for indie studios in order to secure their game on gamepass, which is the issue they are referring to. MS is instead offering them smaller amounts since they are in a much better position (in terms for in house studios and gamepass subs) then they were a few years ago. It's funny though cause even with now 40ish first party studios, we are still going half a year without a single new first party game
Re: Xbox Is Hosting A Special Sale For Game Pass Members This Week
I have a feeling Jedi Survivor should be hitting gamepass ultimate soon, since it'll be part of EA access. I believe I read most games will hit EA access at the 1 year mark which is coming up. Dead Space remake was right about then
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
@Phil-Spencer-Gate Well I guess MS wins by default this year then? Cause I don't think Sony has a single first party release that I know of. But if we are counting 2024 console exclusives, it is subjective who has the better lineup.
I currently only have an Xbox but lately been thinking about getting a PS cause I think those games interest me a bit more. Plus if I own both it's a win win.
Re: These Nine Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (March 20 - April 2)
Always wanted to check out Evil West, and still haven't played diablo 4 yet. That's a solid offering
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
@Phil-Spencer-Gate I know, I said they are not first party, but they are only playable (console wise) on playststion. They are some of the biggest releases of the year not playable on xbox. And when Sony says multiplatform I belive they are referring to PC. They likely won't put any first party games on xbox. I do have high hopes for avowed and Indiana Jones, but right now the exclusives in the first half they year in PS are very good.
That said i am excited for Xboxs first party lineup going forward, I just feel like with their now like 30+ studios they should be pumping out high quality exclusives like a well oiled machine at this point
Re: With A 'PS5 Pro' Now Rumoured For 2024, Where Does That Leave Xbox?
@Phil-Spencer-Gate "While having a better lineup than Sony". That is subjective. Sony has already released Helldivers 2, Finally Fantasy 7 Rebirth, about to release Rise of the Ronin, followed by Stellar Blade. MS will release hellblade 2 in the first 6 months. I know those aren't first party, but they aren't on xbox so it is part of Sonys lineup and those games are reviewing amazingly so far. I'm not sure how Avowed will be, it looked clunky to me, but I hope it is good. Indiana Jones will likely be the highlight for xbox this year.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 16-17)
Started Control Ultimate Edition, never played it before so sounds like a good place to start
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 16-17)
@Rangers420 I actually really liked the prototype games. Beat them both when they came out, not sure how well they've aged but was always hoping for a prototype 3
Re: Xbox's Sea Of Thieves Becomes 'Best-Selling' Pre-Order On PlayStation 5
@CallMeDuraSouka Sony is starting to put some games on PC but u don't see any of the games coming to xbox. MS console sales are too small for Sony to care to appease to that market, because a chunk of those xbox sales are people who own both xbox and PS5 console owners (making the market even smaller).
Re: Poll: How Often Do You Buy Games That Have Been 'Remade' Or 'Remastered'?
If given the Resident Evil or Dead space level treatment I'm all for it, if it is just a resolution bump or fps bump I won't buy the same game twice for that.
Re: Two Major Xbox Games Are Adding Crossplay Support With PS5 & PC
Can you choose who you want to crossplay with? For example you only want to crossplay with other players on PS5 for mortal Kombat matchmaking? I know it doesn't matter too much for these games but down the road if they do cross play with fps games, I'd be okay with crossplaying with ps5 players but not mouse and keyboard players
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Hoping To See From The Xbox Games Showcase 2024?
State of decay 3 (feel like it's been a while since announced), Everwild update, Gears 6 and/or Tactics 2, ID studio update, Fable release date, forza horizon 6
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 24-25)
Probably going to try to finish Resident Evil 3 Remake, then restart the dead island 2 playthrough I began when it was on free play days.
Re: Dying Light 2 Receives 'Biggest' Update Ever, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Nice, have yet to play this but loved the first one. Looks like now is a good time to check it out. Currently playing dead island 2 and resident evil 3 on GP (I know, zombies up the a**).
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 17-18)
Dead island 2 on free play days.
Re: Xbox Reminds Fans 'More Than 10 Major Releases' Are On The Way
@CutchuSlow to be fair they said major "releases", not major "games". Expansions on the level of like cyberpunk or witcher 3 certainly can be considered as a major release, even though it's not a new game
Re: Roundup: Here's What Was Revealed At The Xbox 'Business Update Event'
@Sol4ris just curious, can you name 1 game that would thrive on a low player count? You make it seem like hi fi rush makes sense cause itll thrive on many platforms, but it is single player. So you must mean it'll thrive because of sales. Which, wouldn't all games thrive because of more sales?
Re: Pick One: Which 2024 First-Party Game Are You Most Looking Forward To From Xbox?
@Kieduss I'd be okay with it! Love that game
Re: Pick One: Which 2024 First-Party Game Are You Most Looking Forward To From Xbox?
@Fiendish-Beaver damn, I didn't know 3 new gears games were coming out in 2024
Re: Microsoft Announces Official Date & Time For 'Updates On The Xbox Business'
@XboxistheBestBox Did you expect Monday at 12:01 a.m. for them to talk about it? They said next week (last week) and Thursday is within the time they said no?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 10-11)
@XboxistheBestBox I love the evil within series! You should check out the second one as well, and I hope they end up making a 3rd someday.
Re: Xbox Reportedly Has 'No Plans' To Stop Making Consoles
@abe_hikura This. There has to be a reason to buy a console and that is exactly what exclusives do. Take away the exclusives and you have no reason to really even get one.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 10-11)
Checking out some MW3 multiplayer since it's free for the weekend.
Re: Xbox Supposedly 'Very Surprised' At The Extent Of The Latest Rumours
Everything I see is MS is slowly replacing the term "xbox" with "console". Which suggests they sre ditching xbox. They had every opportunity to stop the rumors. It is happening. It is sad.
Re: PS5 Survey Lists Top 10 'Most Wanted' Xbox Franchises On PlayStation
@themightyant aren't all dishonored games already on playstation? And there isn't any sign that they are making a new one so maybe that is why it wasn't voted
Re: Lies Of P x Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Content Comes To Xbox Game Pass Next Week
@Kaloudz I liked Wo Long as well and managed to beat it. Haven't tried lies of p yet but it is on my list. I heard they've patched some of the harder bosses
Re: Xbox Fans Urged To Remain Calm As Emotions Run Wild On Social Media
@Lightning720 I really don't think people are questioning MS's ability to make money. Everyone knows they are a trillion dollar company. People are upset because for the past decade they've been all over the place, reversing decisions, going in different directions, firing studios, and then going almost 2 years without a single first party exclusive only to release Redfall after all that time. Those who patiently stuck through it all and thought "finally, Xbox has a ton of studios now and is gonna start pumping out the exclusives and all that waiting was worth it" only for MS to say they'll release them everywhere. It really isna slap in the face. And yes, I guess it shows you shouldn't have "brand loyalty" and this is the risk you take and obviously they're gonna go where the money is. But that doesn't mean people can't be upset about it.
Re: Phil Spencer Addresses Xbox Speculation Ahead Of 'Business Update Event'
Welp. sounds like it is true. If this had a hint of false he would shut it down via X and say we will clarify more next week.
They need a week to put together a generic but heartfelt basic PR message: "Here at Xbox, we love all gamers and feel that our games should reach as many people as possible, so we've made the creative decision to put X, Y, Z on as many platforms as possible, and all future games will be on a case by case basis"
Translation: "We dont have time to wait 2 - 3 years to release great exclusives and finally win back the market share. So we are waving the white flag."
Re: Starfield, Indiana Jones And Many Other 'Xbox Exclusives' Could Be Heading To PS5
@Kaloudz I kind of agree with losing 'fan trust'. It is blowing up on twitter (X). People aren't happy. So if the game scores well or looks to be a banger it'l be multiplat. But they'll leave the crap (redfall) exclusive to the fans? I'm okay with putting GaaS multiplat (Diablo, Sea of Thieves etc.) but single player games should remain exclusive to their platform. Also, you say it is case by case, but we all know this 'case by case' will just happen to magically make sense for all future games. Especially when the money starts flowing in.
Re: Starfield, Indiana Jones And Many Other 'Xbox Exclusives' Could Be Heading To PS5
@Widey85 Agreed. If this was false I think MS would've been very quick to shut it down knowing that if it spreads people will stop buying Xbox. They've been radio silent about it. They say case by case, but once they see the money and sales they generate from PS and Ninetendo, it will be an all the time. I've been with Xbox since the OG but if this is true I'll likely start investing in the PS ecosystem as i will get to play their exclusives and apparently MS as well.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 3-4)
Still Sea Of Stars. I've almost given up on it a few times now but always pull myself back in cause I really don't like not finishing games after I've invested several hours. It is fun, but these types of games (turn based rpgs) have never really been my style. But I was trying to branch out of my comfort zone. It was a nice palate cleanser from dead space
Re: 'Visions Of Mana' Isn't Launching On Xbox Game Pass Despite Dev Direct Appearance
@themightyant honestly I kinda assumed it was coming to gamepass. I guess I just got into the habit (which isn't a good habit) of assuming all MS exclusive deals as well as first party meant gamepass. Especially if they had it at a developer direct like that where all the other games were day 1 gamepass.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (January 27-28)
Still trekking through Sea Of Stars. It is definitely fun, but to me combat is getting a little repetitive. I never really play jrpgs so maybe this is just how they are? Still fun and I plan to try and see it through the end. I believe I am over halfway.