@Onlyboxmatters "it truly seems one of the greatest games of all time" I wouldn't go that far lol ...but it is a great game. I've enjoyed what I played.
@Deljo yep, as long as you create a gamertag and subscribe to gamepass MS doesn't care how you do it. They'll still consider that joining their ecosystem since they are heavy into cloud
I know they said that they aren't trying to get PS gamers to switch (which is fine), but if I was seeing this as a PS only gamer and saw that list and I can get all these day one on gamepass...I'd be tempted.
@themightyant thanks for that data breakdown. Honestly makes me feel like I'm not going crazy when I feel like GP is slowing down a bit the last few months yet people swear it's better than ever haha. Either way, still a good value. I think (as someone else said in another thread) they feel like they can put out a first party game every 2 or 3 months now so they don't want to invest too much in 3rd party. But who knows.
@TheEstablishment i think everyone knew they were making one more console since they confirmed it multiple times. I think most people think this new one though will sell a fraction of what the xsx sold and then they'll bow out. But by then you are right, gamepass will be there 'console' and it'll be an app you can stream on anything anywhere.
Wo Long was fun. Honestly thought the first boss fight was the hardest. After that I beat most of them first attempt. Definitely worth a playthrough imo.
Started Aliens Dark Descent this week. Pretty fun so far. I've heard the game is pretty challenging so I'm just playing on normal, and even with that I'm struggling. Don't know if ill end up finishing it or not because I'm just biding my time until Avowed drops.
@OldGamer999 yep. Pretty much what I think. There uncertainty and drip feeding games is just stringing people along. 1 year ago they said exclusives are still an important part of their strategy. Now it is "no red lines". The back and forth is pretty ridiculous. They need to stop speaking to the media cause they've flip flopped more times then any other company.
Okay I'm in. Honestly never even heard of the game until the gamepass announcement, then saw someone streaming it on twitch (Cohh Carnage). But it sounds great
@Millionski those are all timed exclusives. How do you know which one will be permanent exclusive? They literally just said they don't see value in putting exclusive walls up? And you think those will remain exclusive? If that's the case then there is no point in arguing it... they literally have spelt it out... xbox does not belive in exclusives. These are not rumors. This is from the horses mouth
@Millionski these are not exclusives.... these will all be on switch and PS in less than a year. Timed exclusive is not the same as a full exclusive. I'm more surprised people actually take what they say at face value still. They have literally kept 0 promises...in fact the only exclusive they showed at state of play is the 39.99 south of midnight. Everything else day Multiplat
@Millionski you are 100% correct. Forgot about those, and looking forward to expedition 33 and Wuchang. First party i always have a wait and see approach now with MS. They've been wanting to release a first party game every quarter for a couple years now and I haven't seen it happen. But I'm very optimistic this will finally be the year.
Only a $5 difference isn't enough for me to want to downgrade and not get access to day 1 first party releases. 2025 should have 4 to 5 of those releases alone so I see way more value in keeping the Ultimate sub.
I actually really enjoyed Gigantic when it first came out several years ago. Played it a lot. Not sure if I'll dive back in but it definitely was fun for it's time. Otherwise the one that I'll probably check it is Sniper Elite.
Playing Doom (2016). I never finished it so I thought I'd start over and finish it and then play Doom Eternal which i haven't played yet. Prepping for a hopefully Doom Dark Age 2025 release
@OldGamer999 I would almost imagine their GP subs are shrinking and not even stagnant. As more people switch to PS they'll cancel their subscription as PS doesn't have gamepass. That and the very weak offerings lately. It used to be huge GP drops twice a month with offerings like lies of p, resident evils, remnant... i dont see any of that now. The only way they could inflate the numbers of gamepass subscribers is by changing the name xbox live to gamepass (which they did).
@Millionski Yep. MS finally puts themselves in a position to straight dominate and then waves the white flag. Next console sales figures will be abysmal and they'll stop completely. Sad cause I've invested 18 years into their ecosystem
@fatpunkslim i see you are trying to show people that both companies are sending their exclusives over to each other and all is wonderful... this is not the same thing at all as to what MS is doing... there's really no way to spin it
Probably just play Marvel Rivals. While it certainly is a straight clone of OW, playing as marvel heroes is a lot of fun. I'm sure I'll get bored after a while like I do with most multiplayer games but for now it's a nice change of pace.
@Ricky-Spanish yeah that's what I'm worried about. And MS has been known in the past to have studios just work on one game series (halo, gears, rare was assigned to kinect lol)
Going to start nine sols. I'm a big metroidvania fan, with hollow knight and Ori being some of my all time favorite games ever. This looks like itll scratch the itch until silksong. Haven't heard any updates on silksong in a while, hoping it's doing okay.
This is like the 4th week I've had to say Lies Of P...games kicking my a$$ now. Really was hoping to be done with it, not because it's a bad gsme, it's great, but because I'm having FOMO of indy and stalker 2. I know once I step away from a game I hardly ever come back so that's why I just stick to 1 game at a time...plus it's all I have time for.
Lies of P...really want to finish it this weekend so I can play Indy on launch. Only 3 more chapters left but they are getting a bit rough in terms of difficulty. Still love the game though and highly recommend.
@Nightcrawler71 once they introduced tiers I think it became an "ultimate-subs" only game. Now they're adding it back to standard subs as well. I really don't like how they make it seem like 10 games are coming when over half of them are just being shuffled around the different tiers.
Either a few matches of black ops 6 lately or I'll just do whatever I can in whatever game I'm currently working on. For example I'm playing Lies of P and if I'm on a boss sometimes ill just give it a shot 2 or 3 times then turn it off. Often I only have 30min -1 hour chunks of time so I gotta keep making progress with whatever I can.
There's a lot of games that were announced in that period that are just now creeping back up... state of decay 3, Everwild, Fable went dark for a couple years, perfect dark.
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Re: Xbox Exec Thanks Fans For Helping Avowed Go Number 1 On Steam
@Onlyboxmatters "it truly seems one of the greatest games of all time" I wouldn't go that far lol ...but it is a great game. I've enjoyed what I played.
Re: Here's A Look At The Updated Xbox Studios Roadmap For 2025 & Beyond
@LaurenceJ1987 @Kaloudz 1984 here my fellow 80s friends
Re: These Three Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (February 20-25)
Wow, Rogue Trader campaign is massive... 100 hours for Main plus sides on How Long To Beat.. 154 hours for Completionist.
Re: These Three Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (February 20-25)
@Kaloudz you were correct on the Tuesday drop! All this time I could never figure out the schedule haha. Thanks!
Re: Here's A Look At The Updated Xbox Studios Roadmap For 2025 & Beyond
@Deljo yep, as long as you create a gamertag and subscribe to gamepass MS doesn't care how you do it. They'll still consider that joining their ecosystem since they are heavy into cloud
Re: Here's A Look At The Updated Xbox Studios Roadmap For 2025 & Beyond
I know they said that they aren't trying to get PS gamers to switch (which is fine), but if I was seeing this as a PS only gamer and saw that list and I can get all these day one on gamepass...I'd be tempted.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox Is Done Trying To Convince PS5 & Switch Players To Move Over
@themightyant thanks for that data breakdown. Honestly makes me feel like I'm not going crazy when I feel like GP is slowing down a bit the last few months yet people swear it's better than ever haha. Either way, still a good value. I think (as someone else said in another thread) they feel like they can put out a first party game every 2 or 3 months now so they don't want to invest too much in 3rd party. But who knows.
Re: Eight Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass In Late February 2025
@Kaloudz do they usually announce games on Tuesdays? I always wondered when but can never figure out their gp announcement schedule.
Re: Xbox Reporter Says Series X|S Successor Has Been 'Fully Approved' By Microsoft
@TheEstablishment i think everyone knew they were making one more console since they confirmed it multiple times. I think most people think this new one though will sell a fraction of what the xsx sold and then they'll bow out. But by then you are right, gamepass will be there 'console' and it'll be an app you can stream on anything anywhere.
Re: Roundup: All The Xbox Reveals From February 2025's State Of Play
Lies of P expansion!! Can't wait
Re: Here's What Might Be Leaving Xbox Game Pass In March 2025
@Kaloudz definitely! Ni No was great as well.
Re: Here's What Might Be Leaving Xbox Game Pass In March 2025
Wo Long was fun. Honestly thought the first boss fight was the hardest. After that I beat most of them first attempt. Definitely worth a playthrough imo.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (February 8-9)
Started Aliens Dark Descent this week. Pretty fun so far. I've heard the game is pretty challenging so I'm just playing on normal, and even with that I'm struggling. Don't know if ill end up finishing it or not because I'm just biding my time until Avowed drops.
Re: Former PlayStation Exec Says 'The Game Is Changing' As Xbox Goes Multiplatform
I'm the victim. I cry myself to sleep every night and have to go to therapy twice a week now for trust issues
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Resurface Following Forza Horizon 5 Announcement
@OldGamer999 yep. Pretty much what I think. There uncertainty and drip feeding games is just stringing people along. 1 year ago they said exclusives are still an important part of their strategy. Now it is "no red lines". The back and forth is pretty ridiculous. They need to stop speaking to the media cause they've flip flopped more times then any other company.
Re: Hands On: Eternal Strands Brings Single-Player Monster Hunting To Xbox Game Pass
Okay I'm in. Honestly never even heard of the game until the gamepass announcement, then saw someone streaming it on twitch (Cohh Carnage). But it sounds great
Re: 'People Can Fly' Becomes Official Co-Developer For Gears Of War: E-Day
Don't let them touch the multiplayer
Re: Xbox On Keeping Games Off Other Platforms: 'That's Not A Path For Us'
@Millionski those are all timed exclusives. How do you know which one will be permanent exclusive? They literally just said they don't see value in putting exclusive walls up? And you think those will remain exclusive? If that's the case then there is no point in arguing it... they literally have spelt it out... xbox does not belive in exclusives. These are not rumors. This is from the horses mouth
Re: Xbox On Keeping Games Off Other Platforms: 'That's Not A Path For Us'
@Millionski these are not exclusives.... these will all be on switch and PS in less than a year. Timed exclusive is not the same as a full exclusive. I'm more surprised people actually take what they say at face value still. They have literally kept 0 promises...in fact the only exclusive they showed at state of play is the 39.99 south of midnight. Everything else day Multiplat
Re: Xbox On Keeping Games Off Other Platforms: 'That's Not A Path For Us'
@Millionski to be fair, they also said less than a year ago exclusives were important part of their strategy. They've completely 180d that.
Re: Talking Point: Have You Been Tempted To Switch To Xbox Game Pass Standard?
@Millionski you are 100% correct. Forgot about those, and looking forward to expedition 33 and Wuchang. First party i always have a wait and see approach now with MS. They've been wanting to release a first party game every quarter for a couple years now and I haven't seen it happen. But I'm very optimistic this will finally be the year.
Re: Talking Point: Have You Been Tempted To Switch To Xbox Game Pass Standard?
Only a $5 difference isn't enough for me to want to downgrade and not get access to day 1 first party releases. 2025 should have 4 to 5 of those releases alone so I see way more value in keeping the Ultimate sub.
Re: These 13 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (January 22 - February 4)
I actually really enjoyed Gigantic when it first came out several years ago. Played it a lot. Not sure if I'll dive back in but it definitely was fun for it's time. Otherwise the one that I'll probably check it is Sniper Elite.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (January 18-19)
Playing Doom (2016). I never finished it so I thought I'd start over and finish it and then play Doom Eternal which i haven't played yet. Prepping for a hopefully Doom Dark Age 2025 release
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Series X|S Owners, How's Your Storage Looking In 2025?
I only really play one or two games at a time so I just delete stuff I'm done with.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Console Sales In Europe Dropped By Almost 50% In 2024
@OldGamer999 I would almost imagine their GP subs are shrinking and not even stagnant. As more people switch to PS they'll cancel their subscription as PS doesn't have gamepass. That and the very weak offerings lately. It used to be huge GP drops twice a month with offerings like lies of p, resident evils, remnant... i dont see any of that now. The only way they could inflate the numbers of gamepass subscribers is by changing the name xbox live to gamepass (which they did).
Re: Talking Point: 10 Years Ago, Microsoft Delivered An Incredible Lineup Of Exclusives For Xbox One
@Millionski Yep. MS finally puts themselves in a position to straight dominate and then waves the white flag. Next console sales figures will be abysmal and they'll stop completely. Sad cause I've invested 18 years into their ecosystem
Re: Xbox's Big Surprise For Developer Direct Is Reportedly A Legendary Japanese IP
@MrMagic i thought that at first but they are saying it's a brand new game. But who knows
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (January 11-12)
Nine sols. Just picked it back up. Fun metroidvania if anyone is looking for something to bide the time for hollowknight silksong
Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy 7 Remake & Rebirth Supposedly 'Confirmed' For Xbox In 2025 / 2026
@InterceptorAlpha that's exactly what I said...what MS and Sony are doing aren't the same... I don't know why people try to act like it is lol
Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy 7 Remake & Rebirth Supposedly 'Confirmed' For Xbox In 2025 / 2026
@fatpunkslim i see you are trying to show people that both companies are sending their exclusives over to each other and all is wonderful... this is not the same thing at all as to what MS is doing... there's really no way to spin it
Re: 10 Free-To-Play Games To Look Forward To On Xbox In 2025
Frag punk looks kind of cool... skate of course will be good for some fun.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (January 4-5)
Probably just play Marvel Rivals. While it certainly is a straight clone of OW, playing as marvel heroes is a lot of fun. I'm sure I'll get bored after a while like I do with most multiplayer games but for now it's a nice change of pace.
Re: Suddenly Getting Banned From Microsoft Rewards? You're Not Alone
My rewards don't seem to be working, or at least I didn't get the "daily streak" points for opening the app on my phone
Re: Talking Point: Which Xbox Games Deserved More Love In 2024?
Brotato. Can get hooked on that game for hours.
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones Success Has Apparently Left Disney Wanting More
@Ricky-Spanish yeah that's what I'm worried about. And MS has been known in the past to have studios just work on one game series (halo, gears, rare was assigned to kinect lol)
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones Success Has Apparently Left Disney Wanting More
Game is awesome, glad MachineGames nailed it and deserves all the praise...but please don't forget about making a Wolfenstein 3!
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In January 2025
@Kraven I've never played a sniper elite game but have always been interested in them. Might give this one a go.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 28-29)
@Darude84 I just finished lies of p as well. Such a great game. Can't wait for the DLC and announced lies of p 2.
Re: Pure Xbox's Top 10 Game Pass Titles Of 2024
Indy over CoD is nice to see. Both great games but shows people still love single player games when theyre done right.
Re: Talking Point: Which Xbox Games Have You Managed To Finish This Year?
Can't remember all of them but a few honorable mentions:
Wo long
Dead space remake
Dead island 2
Lies of P
Cocoon
Sea of stars
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 21-22)
@Fishysensei yeah that's what I hear. Sounds right up my alley! I watched a little gameplay and it looks great.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 21-22)
Going to start nine sols. I'm a big metroidvania fan, with hollow knight and Ori being some of my all time favorite games ever. This looks like itll scratch the itch until silksong. Haven't heard any updates on silksong in a while, hoping it's doing okay.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 14-15)
This is like the 4th week I've had to say Lies Of P...games kicking my a$$ now. Really was hoping to be done with it, not because it's a bad gsme, it's great, but because I'm having FOMO of indy and stalker 2. I know once I step away from a game I hardly ever come back so that's why I just stick to 1 game at a time...plus it's all I have time for.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (December 7-8)
Lies of P...really want to finish it this weekend so I can play Indy on launch. Only 3 more chapters left but they are getting a bit rough in terms of difficulty. Still love the game though and highly recommend.
Re: Xbox Game Pass: All Games Coming Soon In December 2024
@Nightcrawler71 once they introduced tiers I think it became an "ultimate-subs" only game. Now they're adding it back to standard subs as well. I really don't like how they make it seem like 10 games are coming when over half of them are just being shuffled around the different tiers.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 30 - December 1)
Lies of P. On chapter 8 of 11, so I'm getting closer. I bounce between this and matches of black ops 6, where I'm about to prestige.
If anyone hasn't played Lies of P and are a fan of the genre, it is awesome. It's been on gamepass for over a year so they could yank it at anytime.
Re: Talking Point: When You're Low On Time, What Do You Play On Xbox?
Either a few matches of black ops 6 lately or I'll just do whatever I can in whatever game I'm currently working on. For example I'm playing Lies of P and if I'm on a boss sometimes ill just give it a shot 2 or 3 times then turn it off. Often I only have 30min -1 hour chunks of time so I gotta keep making progress with whatever I can.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Wondering What Happened To Series X|S Exclusive 'Contraband'
There's a lot of games that were announced in that period that are just now creeping back up... state of decay 3, Everwild, Fable went dark for a couple years, perfect dark.
Re: Just One Game Is Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass In December 2024 So Far
@Onlyboxmatters This has to be a troll comment...none of what you said makes any sense and is pretty much the opposite of reality.