@Banjo- asking to wait is not ‘firing on all cylinders’ though is it… it’s us playing our favourite Xbox game - the waiting game. Hopefully they do actually show their potential soon - we’re already 3 years in! Which is crazy to think about really.
To be clear, I don’t think either current gen console is ‘firing on all cylinders yet’ other than the matrix demo I’ve seen nothing of the potential of either platform…which is why it’s a cheek that talks are already pointing towards midgen refreshes
@Banjo- Xbox has been firing on all cylinders this generation? We’ve had 2 AAA first party exclusive games out of them in 3 years…one still not finished. They released ZERO new AAA games in the second year of the generation. The first Bethesda game is about to release unfinished. Xbox owned multiplatform games are performing better on other platforms. Console sales have slowed down drastically. As a result GP subs have slowed down drastically on console. And same issues that have plagued Xbox for generations still plagued them - delays, lack of marketing.
If all that is Xbox firing on all cylinders well…good luck to us all. Spending isn’t firing on all cylinders for me - producing content is. We’re still waiting for gameplay to even be shown from the vast majority of games announced years ago…let alone getting release dates.
I really wouldn’t discredit grub so easily…there’s no smoke without fire, and he’s been on the ball with quite a few things. Most recently Kojima working with Xbox. MS next moves with the console and gamepass will reveal the truth.
@SplooshDmg thing is the week of hifi rush being out they were saying it was a success. The success obviously didn’t have legs. But I don’t think criticism would have got him out the door. MS should be expecting more. We’ve all complained how they’re too hands off…even their own studios have. I don’t think this is about attacking the team at tango though, or the quality of the game. It’s the bigger issues around it.
@UndyingInsurgent95 see something cant be labelled ‘the best value in gaming’ …if the majority of gamepass subs are still buying the games. This tells me they’re not.
@SplooshDmg a lot of these studios have multiple teams working on multiple games. Mikami had no part to play in making Hi Fi Rush. If anything he probably got out the door before the backlash of Ghostwire. I kid.
It is odd though that so many seem not to stay long at Xbox
@Sol4ris And how are the casuals going to realise that if MS is still inept at telling them?
The ps5 console is now 10s of millions ahead of Xbox in sales. Casual gamers buy 1 or 2 games per year and go where their friends are. Cod is still going to be on PS5 throughout this gen. I don’t think 10s of millions of them are leaving PS5 to balance out the numbers on Xbox. Xbox need more than cod at this point. They need consistent quality releases - that is a big ask from mismanaged studios. They need top tier marketing campaign - that’s a big ask from an inept marketing team. Something needs to change.
The rumour, if true, won’t halt the gp plans…but could see changes to it that don’t benefit the gamer - price raise. Added gamepass tiers. Games not coming day 1. Hell, more games multiplatform - meaning less focus on optimisation They need to see how well other games like starfield, redfall etc do that haven’t been shadow dropped. But they really do need to address clear problems - we all benefit from that.
@Sol4ris No, they knew full well gamepass will affect sales… particularly 3rd party. Which is why they pay so much for 3rd party content (Guardians of the galaxy got a reported 100mill for not even releasing day 1). They also know a subscription service survives month to month - which is why they’re not willing to delay Redfall again. Why they’re buying so many studios/publishers.
MS are in too deep with GP. They’re rushing things because the plan is to go 3rd party with gp…always has been, they’ve basically told us as much years ago. They want GP on PlayStation…they only can’t do that yet because GP still needs 3rd party content to fill it out. One day it won’t. And they’ll push to get the app everywhere. So no, I don’t see MS going back to just traditionally selling games again if that’s what you’re asking? They do need to sell the console though in order to grow gp. In the next couple of years we are going to see MS still focus on selling GP PC and also GP mobile. Trouble is with these platforms they don’t hold the same potential as locking you into an ecosystem that a console does. If they want sustained GP growth they really need to get the console back in the mindshare of casuals - the only way you do that is by telling them about it.
@UndyingInsurgent95 It’s not just this game though is it that MS are prob not happy about. GP numbers aren’t where they expected - we know this to be true. The console is selling poorly - we know this to be true Games are skipping Xbox altogether - we know this to be true. Games keep getting delayed…thus costing more money - we know this to be true Games are still releasing incomplete and getting negative press - we know this to be true
It all adds up. And it’s about time MS actually addressed the problems at Xbox rather than throw money at more studios to cover up those cracks
@SplooshDmg old lads club mentality really..bunch of mates looking out for one another. It honestly wouldn’t be so bad if this was say a year old problem. But their marketing has been poor since they gave up the rights to COD early last gen.
It’s so weird that since then MS decided on being ‘all in’ in gaming yet still haven’t invested in a good marketing team. Though they also haven’t had the games ready either to market. You do feel though there’s a real reluctance to sell the console… maybe because they make a loss on each one and figure pushing gp on PC is more beneficial than selling consoles and getting GP to them…which is why, by Phils own admission, sales on GP have stagnated. What was telling was he said ‘it’s to be expected as most already have it that want it on console’…rather than consider a bigger push to sell the consoles
There really is a sense this last month that the house of cards Phil has built is about to come crashing down over at Xbox. And the worse thing is…none of this is surprising. I don’t think there’s a single person at this point who hasn’t pointed out xbox has management issues. Issues with releasing games on time. And certainly issues with marketing. There’s interviews with Phil Spencer dating back years where even he acknowledges these issues…in fact pretty much every year at some point he’s said they can do better…yet never do. A whole June event last year was designed to demonstrate they recognise at least some of these issues…recognising them and solving them are two different things. The June event has not aged well.
Hopefully this results in new leadership. Phil is a gamer. He needs to be back in a role that benefits from being a gamer. This is not a management role. Xbox needs somebody who gets things done by having some bite. And who spits their dummy out when things aren’t done - Xbox honestly needs a Jim Ryan in Phil’s position.
Hopefully this results in a new marketing team. One capable of marketing beyond twitter. One that’s told to at least MENTION the console. They need to get back to selling the console if they want to see growth in the sub. Until gamepass is FULL of Xbox content and they can get it on other platforms, the console needs to be sold.
We just now need to have our fingers crossed that this news results in those changes and not a change to day1 releases on gamepass subs they’ve sold the promise of for years. And not a new more expensive tier for gamepass day 1 releases. 🤞
Studios/publishers know what gamers are finally starting to realise - Xbox IS gamepass. An app. And if they can’t get on, or don’t want to get on, that app, they feel there’s no point in releasing it on a console that isn’t promoted and will get very few buys on.
Xbox as a console has lost so much ground in the mindshare of casual gamers. The console gets no push. I mentioned the other week that Xbox marketing consists of a twitter page - one where they promote a new controller every week over the actual console. This, of course, got me labelled as being ‘toxic’ by fragile minds…it makes it no less true. And these things have consequences…the consequence being the console isn’t selling well, it just isn’t.
This will of course lead to not just indie studios but also AAA one’s skipping Xbox - we’ve seen this with square already. We’ve certainly seen it with last gen (games like RE4 are still coming to ps4).
MS have a decision to make. Do they want to invest marketing into clawing back console sales, getting gamers locked into an ecosystem where they’re more likely to stay subbed to gamepass.
Or do they want to focus on PC and mobile. Allowing the console to be an after thought by themselves (and thus with gamers) and hope players will sub each month with gp
When you consider that GOLD still has more subs than gp on console and pc combined after 6 years…one’s a bigger gamble than the other. Personally, I think they should start focusing some marketing on the console…
It’s of course elder scrolls 6. But the fact it’s MS it could literally be any game…as we wait close to half a decade on average now from when these games announced to actually being released. 🤷🏻
Hopefully one day their diversity will stretch to adding critically acclaimed first party AAA exclusives to it day one…
Seriously, gamepass’s value won’t hold long in quantity over quality. ‘The gamepass effect’ has already become just as much of a meme now as ‘best value in gaming’ has. One will soon over take the mindshare of the other if they’re not careful - releasing games in unfinished states really won’t help that.
Thing is, starfield has only been shown running 30fps. It’s also not an online fps. It also doesn’t look last gen running on unreal 4. I think all these things are important in building up expectations.
We know starfield is going to be vast…far bigger more open game with far more mechanics going on than redfall. We know it’s going to be heavier on stats that will effect gameplay. As well as an over all slower paced play. These things have an affect on expectations.
I think gamers would be more forgiving in starfield being 30fps. I think the option should be there. But they’ll be less of a ‘we’ve been hoodwinked’ mentality if it isn’t…as it’s easier to see where the benefits of the consoles power are being spent in starfield.
I don’t expect hellblade 2 to be 60fps either. And wouldn’t complain about it not being for similar reasons.
The real shame is that gamers have set themselves up this gen for these quality/performance mode compromises rather than wanting games to simply be optimised to the best of the console’s capabilities from the start. So of course we’ll see more short cuts taken, why wouldn’t we?
@LordFunkalot You do get the feeling it will be sent out to die at this point. Most conversation the game has ever gotten has been bad press. Majority of media sites always roll in favour of public opinion…the public opinion on this is currently negative - that’s destined to be carried over to its reviews. And then its on a subscription service…and is an online fps. It needs a good first impression… an online subscription game getting finished later down the line is going to be a hard sell getting people back on board.
Just have to wait and see. We should all be happy it’s getting so much backlash though as hopefully things will start changing at xbox because of it. Although you would have thought they’d have got the ***** together after halo 🤷🏻
@Dezzy70 to me they’re trying to rush things. They gave up last gen but then remembered why they got into the console market - to ensure Microsoft was part of everybodies entertainment centre. They lost so much ground though…had given away their biggest asset in the form of cod marketing. And had barely enough studios to compete. They also came back into it not wanting to be restrained by the console - they want Xbox to be an app. For that you need games…and consistent releases. So they went out spending neglecting how long it takes to make games and, importantly, nurture studios. They basically 4 generations in still show they don’t understand the console gaming market….so they’re buying publishers that do.
Unfortunately they’ve also failed to understand that publishers survive off hits…and when you’ve already got the bag there’s less incentive to push harder in securing a hit… and with MS being so hands off they haven’t understood the need yet to manage publishers either…it’s not going to be the flawless shortcut they thought.
They want their gp sub on every device. Desperately want it on PlayStation. But don’t understand growth starts at the core. They need consistent games - that have to be consistent in quality as well as in their releases. Unfortunately, because they’re so hands off, the only thing consistent about Xbox over the years has been delays. So now they’re trying desperately to make up for that…for the benefit of the subscription having content.
But whilst they’re doing all this more and more gamers are realising the console is an afterthought. So they’re not buying…which means they’re not investing into the ecosystem. Which is a loss because a sub like gold, that holds no actual value and is confined to just console, still has 10s of millions more subs than gp after 6 years of gp.
The platform with the biggest budget invest in a team that’s clueless about managing game devs/publishers. Clueless about marketing. And promotes confusing mixed messaging. It’s really no surprise why the console doesn’t sell and why gp isn’t growing as fast as they like. They can buy as many studios as they want. If they can’t get out quality games AND tell casual gamers about them, what does it matter?
@Wheatly you’re totally right! MS should continue releasing their AAA day 1 exclusives in unfinished unoptimised states. They’re on gp anyway, so what does quality matter…pricing them at £70 was never going to be a reflection of quality and care given. It was a price point set to add more value to gamepass. MS know they’re not going to get the physical sales. They should price these games in the £100s for all it matters.
And those buying the physical are just stupid because they could get it all for a monthly fee…so ***** them.
But…imagine how much better gamepass would be if those day 1 games came out polished, to high metacritic scores and were in GOTY conversations…gathering awards. Do you think having those polished award winning experiences as part of the sub would add more value to the sub…or less?
Or…maybe unpolished exclusive games will continue to make gamepass the best value in gaming. I mean as long as theirs quantity, who cares 👍
The entitlement is the expectation of optimisation given to the £70 console version that doesn’t particularly look ‘next gen’, using a last gen engine. A game that’s already seen a year delay. A game that’s been marketed running at 60fps for the last year. What should the expectation be? And at what point does that translate into entitlement?
@Dezzy70 yeah Redfall may be terrible regardless…but the outcry can only be a positive thing going forward. Unless MS want to purposely tank their console and focus elsewhere…then nothings going to change.
Delay it. Spin the embarrassment into a message of “we’re listening…we care”.
Regardless of a delay big questions need to be asked about Xbox and how they’re managing these games that they keep adding to. The questions have been asked by gamers for years…it now needs to be asked my Microsoft themselves.
End of the day, they’re now charging £70 for these games…why? An already year delayed game again getting released missing features and polish, is now worth £70?
Hopefully we don’t see pro models. But we’ve dug our own grave there - we supported it last gen. And this gen we’ve gratefully welcomed compromises in the disguise of options as standard…rather than place expectations on these closed platforms being properly optimised for. So unfortunately there’s every chance we’ll again see ‘pro versions’. And given we’ve only a handful of dedicated current gen games available nearly 3yrs into the generation odds are it will be a long enough gen for gamers to ask for a ‘pro pro model’ before the generations out.
@Scummbuddy stock issues haven’t been a problem in the uk for Xbox consoles for a long while. They’re easy to get hold of…they’ve even been in sales and still left available. The big problem for Xbox in the uk is marketing - non existent.
@theduckofdeath Trouble is, Xbox is now more a subscription service - by their own making. Different rules come with a subscription service…the hardest one MS is going to learn if they don’t start getting these games right is that games on subs rarely get second chances before players move on…they can’t rely on finishing a game later via a patch months down the line. It will be judged on the release state. So delaying it makes sense for that. Unfortunately the other rule of a subscription service is the need for regular consistent content…MS can’t afford to keep delaying these games whilst selling subs off the promise of them - GP biggest marketed selling point being day 1 releases. So they need something to release next month… and more unfortunate is that, like racing games, fps is a genre where 60fps really does make a noticeable difference to gameplay - which the game will ultimately be judged on.
Gotta feel for Arkane. The game could be great but already the most marketing the game has gotten has been this negative news about it today. And before today the most attention it had was terrible looking ign footage and news of a ps5 version being planned.
@theduckofdeath Redfall without MS ownership would have likely looked like it being a years timed exclusive on PlayStation. Whether it would have still been coming out before a 60fps patch or not I don’t know…depends just how much ‘egg on face’ Phil Spencer was willing to take had this been yet another Xbox game missing the 12 month window they promised in June (making it 3 out of 3) With MS ownership though MS still has the control to delay the release in time for the patch. I personally think xbox brands in a lose lose here… delay it and it re-enforces the message they were so desperate to show they were addressing last June …that they simple can’t get games out - games they’re currently selling not just hardware on the promise of, but subscriptions too. Release it half baked they get something ‘day 1’ on their subscription promise but the quality isn’t there so the message of ‘gamepass quality’ continues to be devalued. And now, with raising price of their games to £70 too, expectations are higher…so their really can’t be a reliance of “we’ll just patch it in later” without the Xbox brand further devaluing because of that message.
Basically Xbox needs to take a break from buying and focus on what they already have. Get more hands on and actually manage these teams. Give them the support and focus they need. It’s beyond time
@grumpypotato Each side keeps score cards with this stuff. Twitter is a breeding ground for the insecure and manipulators of the insecure. Xbox side is no different - still barely a day goes by without them trolling forspoken or psvr2 sales… so redfall having bad gameplay and then 30fps when, let’s be honest, it’s looks like a last gen game and is running on a last gen engine, combined with it being the first AAA game out of Bethesda that’s exclusive to Xbox…nobody shouldn’t have been expecting the dining out psfanboys are having on it today. It’s been earned…let’s not pretend it hasn’t.
@northofthewall really didn’t have to wait long. So far I’ve seen Xbox fanboys complaining at why nobody has a problem with the likes of Zelda being 30fps…comparing that, on last gen hardware (being generous), to an fps game on current gen 🤷🏻 Seen some claiming they’re fine with 30fps because they’re getting the game for ‘free’ - which is awesome expectations placed on the quality of gamepass Hell, now you have the likes of Colt Eastwood making damage limitation videos saying how he was actually playing the pc port all along, and it was having framerate issues and constant texture popin to hit that 60fps…after spending the last couple of weeks telling people how awesome what he played was.
A few have been quieter. And the news is of course getting lapped up else where. Just a bad look, this and Ghostwire apparently struggling to hit a steady 30fps on Xbox after an extra years wait.
PlayStation fanboys are of a different breed. They’re the only fanatics I know of that regularly try to message the president of America over video games. Threaten to bomb buildings over video games. And actually send penis pics over video games. So it’s not surprising things have gone down this road.
It looks like it’s basically first person dead rising - over the top mindless fun. And I’m definitely up for that. Just a shame there doesn’t seem to be vehicles you’re able to control
10year deals for all these obscure cloud base platforms that will ultimately help promote the Xbox brand throughout the 10 years…it’s a smart move.
Thing is it does nothing to answer Sonys concerns it’s putting forward - degradation in price…which means cod on gamepass day 1 devalues cod physical for £70 on PlayStation consoles. Sony will want to block cod on gamepass day 1. Sony obviously aren’t going to have gamepass on PlayStation at this stage as it makes no sense for them. And Xbox, you’d think, wouldn’t allow cod on psplus subs as it doesn’t benefit the value of gamepass.
It’s going to be interesting to see if all these deals make a difference… as cloud gaming is still a concern for the CMA and cod being on GP day 1 will be part of that.
@StrawberryWave it’s a crazy mindset that ultimately results in the value of gamepass suffering. MS raised the price of their own games to £70 now to add further value to gamepass…meaningless if the quality of those games don’t hold the expectations gamers should have on £70 games just because it’s part of their GP sub.
Hopefully MS can turn around this ‘gamepass effect’ meaning lack of quality stigma they’re currently brandished with - which Xbox gamers are definitely contributing towards with the ideology of ‘free pass because free game’ as it’s part of their subscription service MS valued at £140 per year
You’d think having to wait an extra year for a Microsoft owned IP wouldn’t result in having to mess with settings to make the game more playable due to dead zone issues… I mean they’ve literally had the luxury of hindsight. The feedback from the ps5 release has been readily available for a year…why not simply add an option within control settings to address that feedback 🤷🏻
‘More authentic’ …it had a countless cuts. It was so badly edited. There’s no denying that the gameplay ign showed the player contributed to the game not looking great. As did the editing. But there’s also no denying that the AI has looked pretty dodgy in all footage shown of this so far (replacing intelligence with bullet sponginess). As has the animation …which this footage definitely demonstrates.
At the end of the day they’re charging £70 for games now…the quality has to be at a certain standard. We shall see how this turns out
Hmm I thought I read somewhere the starfield direct will be an hour…which means the Xbox one is only an hour…that’s a bit on the short side. I wonder if they are daring to do the ‘12 month’ thing again…at this point I honestly don’t see how they can. Hopefully it’s an hour packed with plenty of games showing gameplay regardless.
Have the offered a way around the tedious enthusiasm destroying QTE sections yet? Was really enjoying the game till a section where you had to destroy bombs relied on you pressing buttons in time… for the life of me I could t get passed it. Timing with everything else I was spot on with…though there’s loads of accessibility options for the rest of the game if your timing sucks. The qte specific sections though there’s just no way past unless you get the timing right…I’m generally good at rhythm games, play music in real life…so can hold a beat, but man…I could not get the timing down for those. So I wait for the day where if you fail a section 20+ times they just let you pass it with minimal effort
@UltimateOtaku91 cool…did I not already say this? And reason why it’s disappointing that MS own Xbox game studios only have Forza out as their AAA this year…after nothing new AAA last year…and particularly disappointing in that Forza will by accounts end up missing that 12month window…likely meaning no hellblade 2 etc this year as they’ll use Forza for their holiday game instead?
Last gen started so strong in showing the capabilities of that generations consoles with both Ryse and The Order. It’s a shame this gen hasn’t seen anything like that yet (outside of the matrix demo). Having said that…both are mediocre games. Ryse looked ‘next gen’ for the time but gameplay was firmly stuck in the previous generation…maybe even that’s being kind. Boring QTE filled gameplay that saw you killing the same 3 or 4 NPCs throughout whilst you tried to awkwardly navigate ladders and issue commands whilst the framerate struggled on. Remove the visuals and I don’t personally see the desire in it needing a sequel. 🤷🏻
Odd stuff. Most likely some licence issue with Quantum Break. But then MS have been sat on the IP for 7 years and done nothing with it… so, if there’s a silver lining, they’ve hopefully sold the IP back to Remedy and we’ll get something new out of it. 🤞
@Steviematic Unless the Xbox fanbase are finally vocal about mp no longer being behind a paywall gold is probably here to stay. They’ve tried most things now to get people to jump from gold to gamepass. Maybe once they get a steady stream of ray 1 content that will do the trick.
The more easy access upcoming devs have to tools and engines the better…as they’re the ones most likely to give us refreshing innovative experiences. And now with quality engines being easily available like Unreal 5, there’s potential there to see ‘bigger budget’ visuals alongside these indie experiences.
And obviously having a platform like Xbox for your output is forward thinking by Xbox to help pick up future talent too.
@JayJ point being xbox is the only platform I’ve known of that announces and releases more controllers than actual games…and wouldn’t it be nice if that wasn’t the case 🤷🏻
Technically yes, but let’s not pretend ignorance that the term ‘haptic feedback’ has been coined with the inclusion of Xbox controllers in mind, eh? Haptic feedback when taken advantage of adds more to gaming than you’re experiencing in the same game on Xbox. Giving Xbox users an option to enjoy that would be welcomed
@UltimateOtaku91 Sony actually do better by using their money securing the marketing to every big AAA game and offering exclusive content to those games - which is why it was always pretty outrageous their, and their fanboys, sudden concern over parity when it comes to this ABK deal - if anything needs looking over by these governing bodies it isn’t exclusives it’s the fact that customers are being charged £70 per game on both platforms…yet one set of customers are being offered less content for the same money. That’s what needs protecting against.
Timed exclusives and exclusivity isn’t illegal. I think the issue more is with the amount of Japanese focused ones Sony has over Microsoft…preventing those games from coming to Xbox consoles or coming to gamepass. Even marketing deals Sony has ensures they’re blocked from coming to gamepass.
It won’t go anywhere…but there’s No way MS isn’t going to miss the opportunity of having Sony also investigated for their own exclusive and timed exclusivity deals…not when Sony pushed so hard for MS to be looked in to.
Played the open beta on Sunday. Had no server issues. Thought it was great. Instantly reminded me why I liked the previous Diablo so much. I didn’t get to play with anybody online though which was a shame.
The only real negatives I took from it was the terrible voice acting in game (cutscenes were fine), and stilted animation during in game cutscenes.
Will be definitely picking it up at some point. Shame it’s not going to be on gamepass day 1
@UltimateOtaku91 nah, Microsoft are just biting back. This won’t really go anywhere other than cause the same headache for sony that Sonys been causing for Microsoft. It’s not jealousy, it’s pettiness. I bet Microsoft couldn’t wait to use the whole ‘high end market’ narration, that sony and the ftc gladly pushed, against them. Talk about shooting themselves in the foot discounting Nintendo!
Also, Stalker 2 and Arc 2 and timed exclusive…Sony does ample of those too…we’re literally just about to finally get Ghostwire Tokyo on Xbox. Sony definitely have a greater monopoly on Japanese developed games - which is what this is about.
Get rid of exclusives then they’d argue services. These companies are in competition with one another.
It’s pretty funny how the tables have turned so much in the space of a week. It may not accomplish anything in Japan - Japans always favoured Japanese products. And Japanese publishers are still likely to choose PlayStation and Nintendo over Xbox in Japan.
What will be really interesting though is if this ends up effecting Sony acquiring Square in the near future - it’s been long rumoured. And I was always left with the feeling the only reason it hasn’t happened when square sold off their western division is because Sony were waiting on the ABK deal to pass.
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Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Hi-Fi RUSH Rumour, Says The Game Was A 'Break Out Hit'
@Banjo- asking to wait is not ‘firing on all cylinders’ though is it… it’s us playing our favourite Xbox game - the waiting game. Hopefully they do actually show their potential soon - we’re already 3 years in! Which is crazy to think about really.
To be clear, I don’t think either current gen console is ‘firing on all cylinders yet’ other than the matrix demo I’ve seen nothing of the potential of either platform…which is why it’s a cheek that talks are already pointing towards midgen refreshes
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Hi-Fi RUSH Rumour, Says The Game Was A 'Break Out Hit'
@Banjo- Xbox has been firing on all cylinders this generation? We’ve had 2 AAA first party exclusive games out of them in 3 years…one still not finished. They released ZERO new AAA games in the second year of the generation. The first Bethesda game is about to release unfinished. Xbox owned multiplatform games are performing better on other platforms. Console sales have slowed down drastically. As a result GP subs have slowed down drastically on console. And same issues that have plagued Xbox for generations still plagued them - delays, lack of marketing.
If all that is Xbox firing on all cylinders well…good luck to us all. Spending isn’t firing on all cylinders for me - producing content is. We’re still waiting for gameplay to even be shown from the vast majority of games announced years ago…let alone getting release dates.
I really wouldn’t discredit grub so easily…there’s no smoke without fire, and he’s been on the ball with quite a few things. Most recently Kojima working with Xbox. MS next moves with the console and gamepass will reveal the truth.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@SplooshDmg thing is the week of hifi rush being out they were saying it was a success. The success obviously didn’t have legs. But I don’t think criticism would have got him out the door. MS should be expecting more. We’ve all complained how they’re too hands off…even their own studios have.
I don’t think this is about attacking the team at tango though, or the quality of the game. It’s the bigger issues around it.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@UndyingInsurgent95 see something cant be labelled ‘the best value in gaming’ …if the majority of gamepass subs are still buying the games. This tells me they’re not.
Re: Xbox Issues Statement As Twitter Gets Disabled For Game DVR On Console
Wasted no time acting on this when they saw the bill… yet isnt DVR still broken and not out putting decent resolutions for clips?
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@SplooshDmg a lot of these studios have multiple teams working on multiple games. Mikami had no part to play in making Hi Fi Rush. If anything he probably got out the door before the backlash of Ghostwire. I kid.
It is odd though that so many seem not to stay long at Xbox
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@Sol4ris And how are the casuals going to realise that if MS is still inept at telling them?
The ps5 console is now 10s of millions ahead of Xbox in sales. Casual gamers buy 1 or 2 games per year and go where their friends are. Cod is still going to be on PS5 throughout this gen. I don’t think 10s of millions of them are leaving PS5 to balance out the numbers on Xbox. Xbox need more than cod at this point. They need consistent quality releases - that is a big ask from mismanaged studios. They need top tier marketing campaign - that’s a big ask from an inept marketing team. Something needs to change.
The rumour, if true, won’t halt the gp plans…but could see changes to it that don’t benefit the gamer - price raise. Added gamepass tiers. Games not coming day 1. Hell, more games multiplatform - meaning less focus on optimisation
They need to see how well other games like starfield, redfall etc do that haven’t been shadow dropped. But they really do need to address clear problems - we all benefit from that.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@Sol4ris No, they knew full well gamepass will affect sales… particularly 3rd party. Which is why they pay so much for 3rd party content (Guardians of the galaxy got a reported 100mill for not even releasing day 1). They also know a subscription service survives month to month - which is why they’re not willing to delay Redfall again. Why they’re buying so many studios/publishers.
MS are in too deep with GP. They’re rushing things because the plan is to go 3rd party with gp…always has been, they’ve basically told us as much years ago. They want GP on PlayStation…they only can’t do that yet because GP still needs 3rd party content to fill it out. One day it won’t. And they’ll push to get the app everywhere.
So no, I don’t see MS going back to just traditionally selling games again if that’s what you’re asking?
They do need to sell the console though in order to grow gp. In the next couple of years we are going to see MS still focus on selling GP PC and also GP mobile. Trouble is with these platforms they don’t hold the same potential as locking you into an ecosystem that a console does. If they want sustained GP growth they really need to get the console back in the mindshare of casuals - the only way you do that is by telling them about it.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@UndyingInsurgent95 It’s not just this game though is it that MS are prob not happy about.
GP numbers aren’t where they expected - we know this to be true.
The console is selling poorly - we know this to be true
Games are skipping Xbox altogether - we know this to be true.
Games keep getting delayed…thus costing more money - we know this to be true
Games are still releasing incomplete and getting negative press - we know this to be true
It all adds up. And it’s about time MS actually addressed the problems at Xbox rather than throw money at more studios to cover up those cracks
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
@SplooshDmg old lads club mentality really..bunch of mates looking out for one another. It honestly wouldn’t be so bad if this was say a year old problem. But their marketing has been poor since they gave up the rights to COD early last gen.
It’s so weird that since then MS decided on being ‘all in’ in gaming yet still haven’t invested in a good marketing team. Though they also haven’t had the games ready either to market. You do feel though there’s a real reluctance to sell the console… maybe because they make a loss on each one and figure pushing gp on PC is more beneficial than selling consoles and getting GP to them…which is why, by Phils own admission, sales on GP have stagnated. What was telling was he said ‘it’s to be expected as most already have it that want it on console’…rather than consider a bigger push to sell the consoles
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi RUSH 'Didn't Make The Money It Needed To Make'
There really is a sense this last month that the house of cards Phil has built is about to come crashing down over at Xbox. And the worse thing is…none of this is surprising. I don’t think there’s a single person at this point who hasn’t pointed out xbox has management issues. Issues with releasing games on time. And certainly issues with marketing. There’s interviews with Phil Spencer dating back years where even he acknowledges these issues…in fact pretty much every year at some point he’s said they can do better…yet never do.
A whole June event last year was designed to demonstrate they recognise at least some of these issues…recognising them and solving them are two different things. The June event has not aged well.
Hopefully this results in new leadership. Phil is a gamer. He needs to be back in a role that benefits from being a gamer. This is not a management role. Xbox needs somebody who gets things done by having some bite. And who spits their dummy out when things aren’t done - Xbox honestly needs a Jim Ryan in Phil’s position.
Hopefully this results in a new marketing team. One capable of marketing beyond twitter. One that’s told to at least MENTION the console. They need to get back to selling the console if they want to see growth in the sub. Until gamepass is FULL of Xbox content and they can get it on other platforms, the console needs to be sold.
We just now need to have our fingers crossed that this news results in those changes and not a change to day1 releases on gamepass subs they’ve sold the promise of for years. And not a new more expensive tier for gamepass day 1 releases. 🤞
Re: 'No Xbox' Begins Trending On Twitter As Another Game Skips The Platform At Launch
Studios/publishers know what gamers are finally starting to realise - Xbox IS gamepass. An app. And if they can’t get on, or don’t want to get on, that app, they feel there’s no point in releasing it on a console that isn’t promoted and will get very few buys on.
Xbox as a console has lost so much ground in the mindshare of casual gamers. The console gets no push. I mentioned the other week that Xbox marketing consists of a twitter page - one where they promote a new controller every week over the actual console. This, of course, got me labelled as being ‘toxic’ by fragile minds…it makes it no less true. And these things have consequences…the consequence being the console isn’t selling well, it just isn’t.
This will of course lead to not just indie studios but also AAA one’s skipping Xbox - we’ve seen this with square already. We’ve certainly seen it with last gen (games like RE4 are still coming to ps4).
MS have a decision to make. Do they want to invest marketing into clawing back console sales, getting gamers locked into an ecosystem where they’re more likely to stay subbed to gamepass.
Or do they want to focus on PC and mobile. Allowing the console to be an after thought by themselves (and thus with gamers) and hope players will sub each month with gp
When you consider that GOLD still has more subs than gp on console and pc combined after 6 years…one’s a bigger gamble than the other. Personally, I think they should start focusing some marketing on the console…
Re: One Of Xbox's 'Forthcoming' Games Could Take An Entire Decade To Develop
It’s of course elder scrolls 6. But the fact it’s MS it could literally be any game…as we wait close to half a decade on average now from when these games announced to actually being released. 🤷🏻
Re: Xbox Exec: Diversity Of Content Is What Makes Game Pass So Valuable
Hopefully one day their diversity will stretch to adding critically acclaimed first party AAA exclusives to it day one…
Seriously, gamepass’s value won’t hold long in quantity over quality. ‘The gamepass effect’ has already become just as much of a meme now as ‘best value in gaming’ has. One will soon over take the mindshare of the other if they’re not careful - releasing games in unfinished states really won’t help that.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Starfield Will Contain A 'Performance Mode' On Xbox Series X|S?
I think if it wasn’t planning to it is now!
Thing is, starfield has only been shown running 30fps. It’s also not an online fps. It also doesn’t look last gen running on unreal 4. I think all these things are important in building up expectations.
We know starfield is going to be vast…far bigger more open game with far more mechanics going on than redfall. We know it’s going to be heavier on stats that will effect gameplay. As well as an over all slower paced play. These things have an affect on expectations.
I think gamers would be more forgiving in starfield being 30fps. I think the option should be there. But they’ll be less of a ‘we’ve been hoodwinked’ mentality if it isn’t…as it’s easier to see where the benefits of the consoles power are being spent in starfield.
I don’t expect hellblade 2 to be 60fps either. And wouldn’t complain about it not being for similar reasons.
The real shame is that gamers have set themselves up this gen for these quality/performance mode compromises rather than wanting games to simply be optimised to the best of the console’s capabilities from the start. So of course we’ll see more short cuts taken, why wouldn’t we?
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Bethesda To Delay Redfall Until 60FPS Is Ready
@LordFunkalot You do get the feeling it will be sent out to die at this point. Most conversation the game has ever gotten has been bad press. Majority of media sites always roll in favour of public opinion…the public opinion on this is currently negative - that’s destined to be carried over to its reviews.
And then its on a subscription service…and is an online fps. It needs a good first impression… an online subscription game getting finished later down the line is going to be a hard sell getting people back on board.
Just have to wait and see. We should all be happy it’s getting so much backlash though as hopefully things will start changing at xbox because of it. Although you would have thought they’d have got the ***** together after halo 🤷🏻
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Bethesda To Delay Redfall Until 60FPS Is Ready
@Dezzy70 to me they’re trying to rush things. They gave up last gen but then remembered why they got into the console market - to ensure Microsoft was part of everybodies entertainment centre. They lost so much ground though…had given away their biggest asset in the form of cod marketing. And had barely enough studios to compete. They also came back into it not wanting to be restrained by the console - they want Xbox to be an app. For that you need games…and consistent releases. So they went out spending neglecting how long it takes to make games and, importantly, nurture studios. They basically 4 generations in still show they don’t understand the console gaming market….so they’re buying publishers that do.
Unfortunately they’ve also failed to understand that publishers survive off hits…and when you’ve already got the bag there’s less incentive to push harder in securing a hit… and with MS being so hands off they haven’t understood the need yet to manage publishers either…it’s not going to be the flawless shortcut they thought.
They want their gp sub on every device. Desperately want it on PlayStation. But don’t understand growth starts at the core. They need consistent games - that have to be consistent in quality as well as in their releases. Unfortunately, because they’re so hands off, the only thing consistent about Xbox over the years has been delays. So now they’re trying desperately to make up for that…for the benefit of the subscription having content.
But whilst they’re doing all this more and more gamers are realising the console is an afterthought. So they’re not buying…which means they’re not investing into the ecosystem. Which is a loss because a sub like gold, that holds no actual value and is confined to just console, still has 10s of millions more subs than gp after 6 years of gp.
The platform with the biggest budget invest in a team that’s clueless about managing game devs/publishers. Clueless about marketing. And promotes confusing mixed messaging. It’s really no surprise why the console doesn’t sell and why gp isn’t growing as fast as they like. They can buy as many studios as they want. If they can’t get out quality games AND tell casual gamers about them, what does it matter?
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Bethesda To Delay Redfall Until 60FPS Is Ready
@Wheatly you’re totally right! MS should continue releasing their AAA day 1 exclusives in unfinished unoptimised states. They’re on gp anyway, so what does quality matter…pricing them at £70 was never going to be a reflection of quality and care given. It was a price point set to add more value to gamepass. MS know they’re not going to get the physical sales. They should price these games in the £100s for all it matters.
And those buying the physical are just stupid because they could get it all for a monthly fee…so ***** them.
But…imagine how much better gamepass would be if those day 1 games came out polished, to high metacritic scores and were in GOTY conversations…gathering awards. Do you think having those polished award winning experiences as part of the sub would add more value to the sub…or less?
Or…maybe unpolished exclusive games will continue to make gamepass the best value in gaming. I mean as long as theirs quantity, who cares 👍
The entitlement is the expectation of optimisation given to the £70 console version that doesn’t particularly look ‘next gen’, using a last gen engine. A game that’s already seen a year delay. A game that’s been marketed running at 60fps for the last year. What should the expectation be? And at what point does that translate into entitlement?
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Bethesda To Delay Redfall Until 60FPS Is Ready
@Dezzy70 yeah Redfall may be terrible regardless…but the outcry can only be a positive thing going forward. Unless MS want to purposely tank their console and focus elsewhere…then nothings going to change.
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Bethesda To Delay Redfall Until 60FPS Is Ready
Delay it. Spin the embarrassment into a message of “we’re listening…we care”.
Regardless of a delay big questions need to be asked about Xbox and how they’re managing these games that they keep adding to. The questions have been asked by gamers for years…it now needs to be asked my Microsoft themselves.
End of the day, they’re now charging £70 for these games…why? An already year delayed game again getting released missing features and polish, is now worth £70?
Re: Talking Point: Will We See New Xbox Hardware By The End Of 2024?
Hopefully we don’t see pro models. But we’ve dug our own grave there - we supported it last gen. And this gen we’ve gratefully welcomed compromises in the disguise of options as standard…rather than place expectations on these closed platforms being properly optimised for. So unfortunately there’s every chance we’ll again see ‘pro versions’. And given we’ve only a handful of dedicated current gen games available nearly 3yrs into the generation odds are it will be a long enough gen for gamers to ask for a ‘pro pro model’ before the generations out.
Re: Talking Point: Will We See New Xbox Hardware By The End Of 2024?
@Scummbuddy stock issues haven’t been a problem in the uk for Xbox consoles for a long while. They’re easy to get hold of…they’ve even been in sales and still left available. The big problem for Xbox in the uk is marketing - non existent.
Re: Redfall Will Only Run At 30FPS When It Launches On Xbox Series X And S
@theduckofdeath Trouble is, Xbox is now more a subscription service - by their own making. Different rules come with a subscription service…the hardest one MS is going to learn if they don’t start getting these games right is that games on subs rarely get second chances before players move on…they can’t rely on finishing a game later via a patch months down the line. It will be judged on the release state. So delaying it makes sense for that.
Unfortunately the other rule of a subscription service is the need for regular consistent content…MS can’t afford to keep delaying these games whilst selling subs off the promise of them - GP biggest marketed selling point being day 1 releases.
So they need something to release next month… and more unfortunate is that, like racing games, fps is a genre where 60fps really does make a noticeable difference to gameplay - which the game will ultimately be judged on.
Gotta feel for Arkane. The game could be great but already the most marketing the game has gotten has been this negative news about it today. And before today the most attention it had was terrible looking ign footage and news of a ps5 version being planned.
Re: Redfall Will Only Run At 30FPS When It Launches On Xbox Series X And S
@theduckofdeath Redfall without MS ownership would have likely looked like it being a years timed exclusive on PlayStation. Whether it would have still been coming out before a 60fps patch or not I don’t know…depends just how much ‘egg on face’ Phil Spencer was willing to take had this been yet another Xbox game missing the 12 month window they promised in June (making it 3 out of 3)
With MS ownership though MS still has the control to delay the release in time for the patch.
I personally think xbox brands in a lose lose here… delay it and it re-enforces the message they were so desperate to show they were addressing last June …that they simple can’t get games out - games they’re currently selling not just hardware on the promise of, but subscriptions too.
Release it half baked they get something ‘day 1’ on their subscription promise but the quality isn’t there so the message of ‘gamepass quality’ continues to be devalued.
And now, with raising price of their games to £70 too, expectations are higher…so their really can’t be a reliance of “we’ll just patch it in later” without the Xbox brand further devaluing because of that message.
Basically Xbox needs to take a break from buying and focus on what they already have. Get more hands on and actually manage these teams. Give them the support and focus they need. It’s beyond time
Re: Redfall Will Only Run At 30FPS When It Launches On Xbox Series X And S
@grumpypotato Each side keeps score cards with this stuff. Twitter is a breeding ground for the insecure and manipulators of the insecure. Xbox side is no different - still barely a day goes by without them trolling forspoken or psvr2 sales… so redfall having bad gameplay and then 30fps when, let’s be honest, it’s looks like a last gen game and is running on a last gen engine, combined with it being the first AAA game out of Bethesda that’s exclusive to Xbox…nobody shouldn’t have been expecting the dining out psfanboys are having on it today. It’s been earned…let’s not pretend it hasn’t.
Re: Redfall Will Only Run At 30FPS When It Launches On Xbox Series X And S
@northofthewall really didn’t have to wait long. So far I’ve seen Xbox fanboys complaining at why nobody has a problem with the likes of Zelda being 30fps…comparing that, on last gen hardware (being generous), to an fps game on current gen 🤷🏻
Seen some claiming they’re fine with 30fps because they’re getting the game for ‘free’ - which is awesome expectations placed on the quality of gamepass
Hell, now you have the likes of Colt Eastwood making damage limitation videos saying how he was actually playing the pc port all along, and it was having framerate issues and constant texture popin to hit that 60fps…after spending the last couple of weeks telling people how awesome what he played was.
A few have been quieter. And the news is of course getting lapped up else where.
Just a bad look, this and Ghostwire apparently struggling to hit a steady 30fps on Xbox after an extra years wait.
Re: Redfall Will Only Run At 30FPS When It Launches On Xbox Series X And S
Wow… this is not only an almost year delayed game, it’s also MS first £70 game…and it’s releasing missing a PLANNED mode? Embarrassing
Be fun seeing how Xbox fanboys spin this on twitter today
Re: Microsoft Reveals Frustration With Group Of 'Gamers' Trying To Sue Over Xbox Deal
PlayStation fanboys are of a different breed. They’re the only fanatics I know of that regularly try to message the president of America over video games. Threaten to bomb buildings over video games. And actually send penis pics over video games. So it’s not surprising things have gone down this road.
Re: Poll: Are You Looking Forward To Dead Island 2 Finally Coming To Xbox Next Week?
It looks like it’s basically first person dead rising - over the top mindless fun. And I’m definitely up for that. Just a shame there doesn’t seem to be vehicles you’re able to control
Re: Xbox Signs Yet Another 10-Year ActiBlizz Deal, This Time With UK Mobile Network
10year deals for all these obscure cloud base platforms that will ultimately help promote the Xbox brand throughout the 10 years…it’s a smart move.
Thing is it does nothing to answer Sonys concerns it’s putting forward - degradation in price…which means cod on gamepass day 1 devalues cod physical for £70 on PlayStation consoles. Sony will want to block cod on gamepass day 1.
Sony obviously aren’t going to have gamepass on PlayStation at this stage as it makes no sense for them. And Xbox, you’d think, wouldn’t allow cod on psplus subs as it doesn’t benefit the value of gamepass.
It’s going to be interesting to see if all these deals make a difference… as cloud gaming is still a concern for the CMA and cod being on GP day 1 will be part of that.
Re: Xbox Players Encouraged To Change Multiple Settings In Ghostwire: Tokyo
@StrawberryWave it’s a crazy mindset that ultimately results in the value of gamepass suffering. MS raised the price of their own games to £70 now to add further value to gamepass…meaningless if the quality of those games don’t hold the expectations gamers should have on £70 games just because it’s part of their GP sub.
Hopefully MS can turn around this ‘gamepass effect’ meaning lack of quality stigma they’re currently brandished with - which Xbox gamers are definitely contributing towards with the ideology of ‘free pass because free game’ as it’s part of their subscription service MS valued at £140 per year
Re: Xbox Players Encouraged To Change Multiple Settings In Ghostwire: Tokyo
You’d think having to wait an extra year for a Microsoft owned IP wouldn’t result in having to mess with settings to make the game more playable due to dead zone issues… I mean they’ve literally had the luxury of hindsight. The feedback from the ps5 release has been readily available for a year…why not simply add an option within control settings to address that feedback 🤷🏻
Re: Redfall Raw Gameplay Shows More Authentic Look At Arkane's Xbox Shooter
‘More authentic’ …it had a countless cuts. It was so badly edited.
There’s no denying that the gameplay ign showed the player contributed to the game not looking great. As did the editing.
But there’s also no denying that the AI has looked pretty dodgy in all footage shown of this so far (replacing intelligence with bullet sponginess). As has the animation …which this footage definitely demonstrates.
At the end of the day they’re charging £70 for games now…the quality has to be at a certain standard. We shall see how this turns out
Re: Rumour: Xbox Games Showcase 2023 Runtime Revealed By Microsoft Leaker
Hmm I thought I read somewhere the starfield direct will be an hour…which means the Xbox one is only an hour…that’s a bit on the short side. I wonder if they are daring to do the ‘12 month’ thing again…at this point I honestly don’t see how they can. Hopefully it’s an hour packed with plenty of games showing gameplay regardless.
I swear…if Forza is in there though…
Re: Hi-Fi RUSH Update Introduces New DLC Pack & Bug Fixes, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Have the offered a way around the tedious enthusiasm destroying QTE sections yet? Was really enjoying the game till a section where you had to destroy bombs relied on you pressing buttons in time… for the life of me I could t get passed it. Timing with everything else I was spot on with…though there’s loads of accessibility options for the rest of the game if your timing sucks. The qte specific sections though there’s just no way past unless you get the timing right…I’m generally good at rhythm games, play music in real life…so can hold a beat, but man…I could not get the timing down for those. So I wait for the day where if you fail a section 20+ times they just let you pass it with minimal effort
Re: New Xbox Games Release Dates In 2023
@UltimateOtaku91 cool…did I not already say this? And reason why it’s disappointing that MS own Xbox game studios only have Forza out as their AAA this year…after nothing new AAA last year…and particularly disappointing in that Forza will by accounts end up missing that 12month window…likely meaning no hellblade 2 etc this year as they’ll use Forza for their holiday game instead?
I’m pretty sure I did…
Re: Crytek Asks About Ryse: Son Of Rome, Gets Huge Response From Xbox Fans
Last gen started so strong in showing the capabilities of that generations consoles with both Ryse and The Order. It’s a shame this gen hasn’t seen anything like that yet (outside of the matrix demo).
Having said that…both are mediocre games. Ryse looked ‘next gen’ for the time but gameplay was firmly stuck in the previous generation…maybe even that’s being kind. Boring QTE filled gameplay that saw you killing the same 3 or 4 NPCs throughout whilst you tried to awkwardly navigate ladders and issue commands whilst the framerate struggled on.
Remove the visuals and I don’t personally see the desire in it needing a sequel. 🤷🏻
Re: Starfield Dev Talks Sci-Fi Inspirations Including Star Wars, Aliens & More
If I can role play blade runner that would be pretty sweet
Re: Another Eight Games Will Leave Xbox Game Pass Soon (April 2023)
Odd stuff. Most likely some licence issue with Quantum Break. But then MS have been sat on the IP for 7 years and done nothing with it… so, if there’s a silver lining, they’ve hopefully sold the IP back to Remedy and we’ll get something new out of it. 🤞
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With April 2023's Xbox Games With Gold?
@Steviematic Unless the Xbox fanbase are finally vocal about mp no longer being behind a paywall gold is probably here to stay. They’ve tried most things now to get people to jump from gold to gamepass. Maybe once they get a steady stream of ray 1 content that will do the trick.
Re: Crime Boss: Rockay City Launches To Disappointing Reviews Ahead Of Xbox Release
How did you resist using ‘gets off to a Rockay start’?
Re: Xbox Announces New Colour Options For The Elite Series 2 Controller
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Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Shares His Praise For New Xbox Developer Program
The more easy access upcoming devs have to tools and engines the better…as they’re the ones most likely to give us refreshing innovative experiences. And now with quality engines being easily available like Unreal 5, there’s potential there to see ‘bigger budget’ visuals alongside these indie experiences.
And obviously having a platform like Xbox for your output is forward thinking by Xbox to help pick up future talent too.
Re: Xbox Announces New Colour Options For The Elite Series 2 Controller
@JayJ point being xbox is the only platform I’ve known of that announces and releases more controllers than actual games…and wouldn’t it be nice if that wasn’t the case 🤷🏻
Technically yes, but let’s not pretend ignorance that the term ‘haptic feedback’ has been coined with the inclusion of Xbox controllers in mind, eh?
Haptic feedback when taken advantage of adds more to gaming than you’re experiencing in the same game on Xbox. Giving Xbox users an option to enjoy that would be welcomed
Re: Xbox Announces New Colour Options For The Elite Series 2 Controller
@Scummbuddy thanks for the permission buddy 👍
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Re: Microsoft Welcomes Investigation Into Sony's 'Anti-Competitive Tactics' In Japan
@UltimateOtaku91 Sony actually do better by using their money securing the marketing to every big AAA game and offering exclusive content to those games - which is why it was always pretty outrageous their, and their fanboys, sudden concern over parity when it comes to this ABK deal - if anything needs looking over by these governing bodies it isn’t exclusives it’s the fact that customers are being charged £70 per game on both platforms…yet one set of customers are being offered less content for the same money. That’s what needs protecting against.
Timed exclusives and exclusivity isn’t illegal. I think the issue more is with the amount of Japanese focused ones Sony has over Microsoft…preventing those games from coming to Xbox consoles or coming to gamepass. Even marketing deals Sony has ensures they’re blocked from coming to gamepass.
It won’t go anywhere…but there’s No way MS isn’t going to miss the opportunity of having Sony also investigated for their own exclusive and timed exclusivity deals…not when Sony pushed so hard for MS to be looked in to.
Re: Diablo 4 Could Be Shaping Up As Another 2023 GOTY Contender
Played the open beta on Sunday. Had no server issues. Thought it was great. Instantly reminded me why I liked the previous Diablo so much.
I didn’t get to play with anybody online though which was a shame.
The only real negatives I took from it was the terrible voice acting in game (cutscenes were fine), and stilted animation during in game cutscenes.
Will be definitely picking it up at some point. Shame it’s not going to be on gamepass day 1
Re: Microsoft Welcomes Investigation Into Sony's 'Anti-Competitive Tactics' In Japan
@UltimateOtaku91 nah, Microsoft are just biting back. This won’t really go anywhere other than cause the same headache for sony that Sonys been causing for Microsoft. It’s not jealousy, it’s pettiness. I bet Microsoft couldn’t wait to use the whole ‘high end market’ narration, that sony and the ftc gladly pushed, against them. Talk about shooting themselves in the foot discounting Nintendo!
Also, Stalker 2 and Arc 2 and timed exclusive…Sony does ample of those too…we’re literally just about to finally get Ghostwire Tokyo on Xbox. Sony definitely have a greater monopoly on Japanese developed games - which is what this is about.
Get rid of exclusives then they’d argue services. These companies are in competition with one another.
Re: Microsoft Welcomes Investigation Into Sony's 'Anti-Competitive Tactics' In Japan
It’s pretty funny how the tables have turned so much in the space of a week. It may not accomplish anything in Japan - Japans always favoured Japanese products. And Japanese publishers are still likely to choose PlayStation and Nintendo over Xbox in Japan.
What will be really interesting though is if this ends up effecting Sony acquiring Square in the near future - it’s been long rumoured. And I was always left with the feeling the only reason it hasn’t happened when square sold off their western division is because Sony were waiting on the ABK deal to pass.
The soap opera continues