I'm actually really looking forward to replay this game after hearing of all the changes they've made for the expansion. So far all the previews from journalists and YouTubers have been glowing.
I'm guessing this update is not that update and that update comes later with the expansion. I'm sure that sentence makes a lot of sense. ๐
This is one of the reasons I got my Series X, Xbox just offers a great variety of games. And seeing that PlayStation is moving to live service which I absolutely can't be bothered about, I'm thrilled with the Xbox direction.
I'm happy to hear that there's none of the stupid monetisation like on GT7 that really pissed me off but I'm not sure about this Car-RPG thing. Sounds weird but I have to see and maybe play it more first...
Personally I'm a bit bummed cause i think 1440p-60fps should be kind of doable, but with the scale they're going for, I don't have much qualms about it.
I'm just remembering playing RDR2 on my base PS4 in 2018 when it came out and how I was in awe of the visuals that the frames never bothered me. So with this, I'm sure it will be jarring at first but if the visuals hit, then it's not gonna be an issue.
This showcase was just fantastic! Easily lightyears ahead from the other showcases I've seen this far this summer. Also much more in there than I expected, especially from the like of Compulsion and InExile.
The one nitpick I had was, I was not sure of where the in-engine footage was being played on. Was it PC? Was it one of the Series consoles? I wish there was more transparency there.
If there ever was a 'Worst game of 2023' list, this has to be up there with Gollum and Redfall. Watched a few clips of it online and just looks B grade, even the voice acting which is weird considering the cast...
@themightyant yeah I agree with you mate. I think they are doing better than what people think but I wouldn't call it a success.
And if you remember the state in launched in, it was both a creatively and technically bankrupt game. Not to forget that it was also full priced.
I went back and watched the some reviews of that game after Redfall launched and it was a shameful exercise in marketing when you hear how noncommittal Bethesda was to what the game actually is.
Would personally be overjoyed if all these live service games that have no other goal than monetisation, to die a violent death.
Wow it's really disappointing to see that 70% of the minds that made Prey is no longer there and I don't think this bodes well for the studio moving forward.
Overall there are huge lessons that need to be learned and learned quickly by both Bethesda and Xbox.
1. Chasing trends like multiplayer and live service needs to stop especially when it's forcing teams who make Singleplayer games to do it. Bethesda has had 3 go-s at this and all 3 have failed miserably. Fallout 76, Wolfenstein:Youngblood and now Redfall. I even expect many of Sony's live service games to fail (we've already kind of seen the first casualty there).
2. This 100% hands off approach from Microsoft will simply not work.
I think what leaves such a bitter taste in the mouth is that Xbox knew the state of the game after the takeover, knew the state of the studio with the mass-exodus and not only did they choose to release the game but charge you that premium price of 70$/80โฌ for it. Knowing this now, I think consumers and fans have a right to doubt the platform moving forward. Also worrying on what adding more studios through the ABK acquisition is going to mean for Xbox management.
Oh wow it starts 1pm US time? Was expecting to be in the night and was gonna just catch up on the news the next day, but seeing as it's in the evening here in Europe, will definitely catch it live.
Here's to finally getting a damn release date for Forza Motorsport that's not 2024 or something crazy like that. ๐
@Kaloudz ouch that sounds like an absolute slaughter!
It goes to show that the CMA have no legitimate reasons nor facts to back those reasons up when it comes to the blocking of this deal. It also shows that they are way out of their depth when it comes to these sort of international deals.
@S1ayeR74 you can't bud. It was broadcast live on Microsoft Teams via a link on the CAT website and there was a disclaimer on the stream that recording of the stream is not allowed and is punishable if someone is found to have done it.
@Cherip-the-Ripper think the deal will still go through but ABK games won't be offered on Xbox services in the UK. Just sold as games, as is now.
This sucks obviously for UK consumers and makes you wonder whose interest the CMA is looking out for. They are neither interested in the effects on the commercial side of things since many cloud services have signed deals with Microsoft to bring these games on their service and neither are they interested in the positive nature of this deal to consumers in the UK.
@RaZieLDaNtE yeah I really enjoyed and can see why you're a big fan. As we talked about it, love how personal these stories are since it's carried over from game to game.
Can really see myself coming back to replay this in the future.
Now it's time for me to go back and rewatch The Expanse. ME gave me such Expanse vibes, another reason why I loved it.
Yup just finished it yesterday myself. Great game. Really chill, with some good puzzles and gorgeous visuals! Love that indies like this get a look in on Game Pass
@RaZieLDaNtE so mate, I wanted to finish the game before coming back and replying to ya. I thought the ending was good and one that gave choice as is to be expected from Mass Effect. I read online that the original games ending was different and a lot was added to the endings over the years. So overall very happy with the series.
P.S. that cutscene at the start of the final mission with all the ships arriving at earth brought a tear to my eye after gathering over 7000 TMS. ๐ฅน
@themightyant yeah for sure but over the last few years to seem to have gotten into some dodgy publishing deals. For example with Control and 505 games and now with Epic.
Personally and not because I'm commenting on an Xbox site, they would fit well with Xbox Game Studios, seeing how hands off they are with their studios. Especially creatively. In reality I'm sure it's more complicated than that but from the outside looking in, it's quite strange cause they put out real quality games.
This is sound argumentation based on facts and data such as market share in the EU as well as actually considering the current state of the competition and what's good for consumers. What does the CMA have? Arbitrary fictional arguments clearly based off of things like PlayStation's lobbying.
@RaZieLDaNtE yeah I wanna see how it plays out but as I was saying I'm a little wary of it being a bit of a disappointment. Either way the journey with the 3 games have been very very good. I think the thing that gets me and that I haven't seen it done in any other game is the idea of bringing your choice from one game to the next. It makes the play through so personal and makes you really think about your decisions cause it will be carried forward.
Just stumbled upon this piece on Eurogamer where they spoke to some of the key folk at BioWare about Mass Effect:
@RaZieLDaNtE I don't know if I'll go back and play all of them from the start again as I've already put in 100+ hours in the Legendary Edition so far but definitely enjoying my time with it. The story and cast of characters are really well written. Also it gives me a bit of The Expanse vibes ( a show I absolutely love).
I must say though, I'm slightly dreading the ending of Mass Effect 3 cause of how well documented it is as one of the worst/unsatisfactory endings in a game...
This is what happens when you actually do your job and objectively investigate it. The FTC is clearly on an agenda against big tech and well the CMA is essentially just sesame street isn't it. ๐
I agree, I'm quite puzzled cause based on how the game reviewed which was average according to opencritic, I assume he would have made more money out of the game pass deal than outright selling it cause I don't think they would have got the sales volume. Just my guess
Hey boys, a little off topic but I saw this on Windowscentral earlier today and you guys should cover it. Really cool looking shooter if true for Xbox and PC:
@Sherhi as someone who works as an engineer in the automotive industry, I can tell you that is not true. Simply because facelifts of model updates typically have not only visual updates but also technical updates to certain components where there may have been a new design to it but this isn't the point.
The point, there is 0% chance that a manufacturer would put out a product that they know is flawed 100% of the time to sell to the public. For example sake, in automotive, a Mercedes or a BMW selling a 6 cylinder car would never say, "oh well 2 of the 6 cylinders are misfiring on all our cars, but f**k it were gonna sell it anyway". That would never happen.
If you're talking about manufacturing defects, then all of the happen due to various reasons in the manufacturing process, be it a machine fault or human error but again a quality assurance or management team would never intentionally approve a 100% flawed product in the manufacturing to sell to the customers. And this applies to every manufacturing industry because people will generally just not buy a broken product.
So yeah, this only seems to happen in gaming. I can't even think of other media (movies, music) where this happens.
@Bartig buddy it's not about "hatehypetrain" (don't even know what that means) but objectively this is the only industry where someone could sell you a broken, unfinished product at full price and be ok with it, When you can get the finished product, whenever that is, at a fraction of the price.
If you feel you got your moneys worth that's good for you but the principle behind it is not ok.
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Re: These Seven Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (June 22 - July 5)
Oh cool F.I.S.T is coming to GP? I loved me a good Jazz Jackrabbit in the day and I wouldn't mind diving into a small rabbit shooter. ๐
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Update 1.63 Includes A Performance Fix On Xbox
I'm actually really looking forward to replay this game after hearing of all the changes they've made for the expansion. So far all the previews from journalists and YouTubers have been glowing.
I'm guessing this update is not that update and that update comes later with the expansion. I'm sure that sentence makes a lot of sense. ๐
Re: Poll: What Score Do You Think You'll Be Giving Starfield In September?
@rustyduck you got to be joking. 720p? Maybe go play on PC if you want 60fps.
Re: Here's The Latest Xbox Game Studios & Bethesda Roadmap (June 2023 Version)
This is one of the reasons I got my Series X, Xbox just offers a great variety of games. And seeing that PlayStation is moving to live service which I absolutely can't be bothered about, I'm thrilled with the Xbox direction.
Re: Microsoft Reveals All Six Porsche-Themed Xbox Series X Consoles
As a huge Porsche fan, some of these are absolutely fire!
@Kaloudz because Le Mans was happening that weekend and the Porsche cars had that livery.
Re: Todd Howard Says Starfield Is 'Great' On Xbox Series S
Well to be fair, he's not going to come out on record and say that it's piss either, is he? ๐
Re: Forza Motorsport Campaign Gameplay Introduces RPG-Like Progression
I'm happy to hear that there's none of the stupid monetisation like on GT7 that really pissed me off but I'm not sure about this Car-RPG thing. Sounds weird but I have to see and maybe play it more first...
Re: God Of War: Ragnarรถk Dev Chimes In On Starfield's 30FPS Xbox Limit
@Chaudy thank you mate! My goodness, this discussion around 30fps for a game of that scale is so ridiculous.
Re: Avowed's Scale Will Be More 'The Outer Worlds' Than 'Skyrim', Says Obsidian
So far Obsidian can't miss and I'm glad it's more curated than a huge game.
Re: Starfield At 30FPS Is A Creative Decision, Says Xbox's Phil Spencer
Personally I'm a bit bummed cause i think 1440p-60fps should be kind of doable, but with the scale they're going for, I don't have much qualms about it.
I'm just remembering playing RDR2 on my base PS4 in 2018 when it came out and how I was in awe of the visuals that the frames never bothered me. So with this, I'm sure it will be jarring at first but if the visuals hit, then it's not gonna be an issue.
Re: Bethesda's Huge Starfield Direct Gameplay Blowout Was Everything We Wanted
Looks amazing! Definitely don't have the time to explore all these worlds but will probably just do the main quests.
My worry is performance with the game being that big...
Re: Starfield Xbox Controller, Headset & Watch Officially Announced
Ooof the collectors edition is tempting with the watch, I'm guessing it's some sort of a smart watch?
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2023
This showcase was just fantastic! Easily lightyears ahead from the other showcases I've seen this far this summer. Also much more in there than I expected, especially from the like of Compulsion and InExile.
The one nitpick I had was, I was not sure of where the in-engine footage was being played on. Was it PC? Was it one of the Series consoles? I wish there was more transparency there.
Re: Ubisoft's New Prince Of Persia Game Is Getting Blasted On YouTube
All these children don't know the origins of the prince of Persia games. I thought it looked really good, questionable music choice aside.
Re: Remedy Showcases First Raw Gameplay Trailer For Alan Wake 2
Ohhhh man. So tempted to pre-order but will never do it. Still looks amazing!
Re: 'Crime Boss: Rockay City' Brings Its Turf War To Xbox Series X|S This June
@Markatron84 haha really? The videos I've watched they seem terrible. Like the delivery of the lines...anyway never gonna play it. ๐
Re: 'Crime Boss: Rockay City' Brings Its Turf War To Xbox Series X|S This June
If there ever was a 'Worst game of 2023' list, this has to be up there with Gollum and Redfall. Watched a few clips of it online and just looks B grade, even the voice acting which is weird considering the cast...
Re: Starfield Fans Advised To 'Bring An Extra Pair Of Underwear' For This Week's Xbox Event
Im gonna take Big Phil's advice and "not believe a word until I have the controller in my hands and am playing the game".
Re: Xbox Download Speeds May Receive A Boost As Part Of New Update
@FraserG ah cheers. I really thought that I saw it had been released but I guess it was just for the insiders.
Re: Xbox Download Speeds May Receive A Boost As Part Of New Update
When does the updated dashboard get released? Thought it had already been released to the masses
Re: Report: Redfall Playtesters 'Shocked' At How Little The Game Changed During Development
@themightyant yeah I agree with you mate. I think they are doing better than what people think but I wouldn't call it a success.
And if you remember the state in launched in, it was both a creatively and technically bankrupt game. Not to forget that it was also full priced.
I went back and watched the some reviews of that game after Redfall launched and it was a shameful exercise in marketing when you hear how noncommittal Bethesda was to what the game actually is.
Would personally be overjoyed if all these live service games that have no other goal than monetisation, to die a violent death.
Re: Report: Redfall Playtesters 'Shocked' At How Little The Game Changed During Development
Wow it's really disappointing to see that 70% of the minds that made Prey is no longer there and I don't think this bodes well for the studio moving forward.
Overall there are huge lessons that need to be learned and learned quickly by both Bethesda and Xbox.
1. Chasing trends like multiplayer and live service needs to stop especially when it's forcing teams who make Singleplayer games to do it. Bethesda has had 3 go-s at this and all 3 have failed miserably. Fallout 76, Wolfenstein:Youngblood and now Redfall. I even expect many of Sony's live service games to fail (we've already kind of seen the first casualty there).
2. This 100% hands off approach from Microsoft will simply not work.
I think what leaves such a bitter taste in the mouth is that Xbox knew the state of the game after the takeover, knew the state of the studio with the mass-exodus and not only did they choose to release the game but charge you that premium price of 70$/80โฌ for it. Knowing this now, I think consumers and fans have a right to doubt the platform moving forward. Also worrying on what adding more studios through the ABK acquisition is going to mean for Xbox management.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Plans For The Xbox Games Showcase 2023?
Oh wow it starts 1pm US time? Was expecting to be in the night and was gonna just catch up on the news the next day, but seeing as it's in the evening here in Europe, will definitely catch it live.
Here's to finally getting a damn release date for Forza Motorsport that's not 2024 or something crazy like that. ๐
Re: Xbox's Appeal Against UK ActiBlizz Verdict Set For July 2023
@Kaloudz ouch that sounds like an absolute slaughter!
It goes to show that the CMA have no legitimate reasons nor facts to back those reasons up when it comes to the blocking of this deal. It also shows that they are way out of their depth when it comes to these sort of international deals.
Real embarrassing...
Re: Xbox's Appeal Against UK ActiBlizz Verdict Set For July 2023
@Kaloudz I watched the last 20 mins or so and must say that Microsoft lawyer is absolute class.
But I read from Florian Mรผller on Twitter that there was a bit of a stutter fest from the CMA lawyer. ๐
Re: Xbox's Appeal Against UK ActiBlizz Verdict Set For July 2023
@S1ayeR74 you can't bud. It was broadcast live on Microsoft Teams via a link on the CAT website and there was a disclaimer on the stream that recording of the stream is not allowed and is punishable if someone is found to have done it.
Re: Xbox's Appeal Against UK ActiBlizz Verdict Set For July 2023
@Cherip-the-Ripper think the deal will still go through but ABK games won't be offered on Xbox services in the UK. Just sold as games, as is now.
This sucks obviously for UK consumers and makes you wonder whose interest the CMA is looking out for. They are neither interested in the effects on the commercial side of things since many cloud services have signed deals with Microsoft to bring these games on their service and neither are they interested in the positive nature of this deal to consumers in the UK.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 20-21)
@RaZieLDaNtE yeah I really enjoyed and can see why you're a big fan. As we talked about it, love how personal these stories are since it's carried over from game to game.
Can really see myself coming back to replay this in the future.
Now it's time for me to go back and rewatch The Expanse. ME gave me such Expanse vibes, another reason why I loved it.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer 'Really Enjoying' New Game Pass Indie Title
Yup just finished it yesterday myself. Great game. Really chill, with some good puzzles and gorgeous visuals! Love that indies like this get a look in on Game Pass
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 20-21)
@RaZieLDaNtE so mate, I wanted to finish the game before coming back and replying to ya. I thought the ending was good and one that gave choice as is to be expected from Mass Effect. I read online that the original games ending was different and a lot was added to the endings over the years. So overall very happy with the series.
P.S. that cutscene at the start of the final mission with all the ships arriving at earth brought a tear to my eye after gathering over 7000 TMS. ๐ฅน
Re: THQ Nordic Offers To Publish Physical Version Of Alan Wake 2
@themightyant yeah for sure but over the last few years to seem to have gotten into some dodgy publishing deals. For example with Control and 505 games and now with Epic.
Personally and not because I'm commenting on an Xbox site, they would fit well with Xbox Game Studios, seeing how hands off they are with their studios. Especially creatively. In reality I'm sure it's more complicated than that but from the outside looking in, it's quite strange cause they put out real quality games.
Re: THQ Nordic Offers To Publish Physical Version Of Alan Wake 2
I know this is about publishing but I'm really really surprised that nobody has outright bought Remedy.
Re: Poll: Looking Back At Alan Wake, What Score Would You Give It?
Since the option isn't there, it's an 8.5 ๐ . Think the weakest part of the game is the general gameplay and shooting.
But the storytelling, world building, characters and tone of the game is 10/10 and just the usual excellence from Remedy.
Re: Roundup: Every Xbox Warhammer Announcement At The Skulls Showcase 2023
@FraserG was gonna ask exactly this. Shame.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Showcase Was A Win For Xbox, Whichever Way You Slice It
It was really poor. Out of the 30 games or so revealed, easily 70% of them were CGI trailers or just title screens.
Which is why I loved what Xbox did with the Developer Direct. 4 or 5 games but really going in depth on what you can expect.
That being said, loved seeing Alan Wake 2 with a set release date!
Re: European Commission Explains Why It Disagreed With UK CMA Over Xbox ActiBlizz Deal
This is sound argumentation based on facts and data such as market share in the EU as well as actually considering the current state of the competition and what's good for consumers.
What does the CMA have? Arbitrary fictional arguments clearly based off of things like PlayStation's lobbying.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 20-21)
@RaZieLDaNtE yeah I wanna see how it plays out but as I was saying I'm a little wary of it being a bit of a disappointment. Either way the journey with the 3 games have been very very good. I think the thing that gets me and that I haven't seen it done in any other game is the idea of bringing your choice from one game to the next. It makes the play through so personal and makes you really think about your decisions cause it will be carried forward.
Just stumbled upon this piece on Eurogamer where they spoke to some of the key folk at BioWare about Mass Effect:
https://www.eurogamer.net/making-mass-effect-from-the-birth-of-a-trilogy-to-andromeda-and-beyond
Have a good one mate.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 20-21)
@RaZieLDaNtE I don't know if I'll go back and play all of them from the start again as I've already put in 100+ hours in the Legendary Edition so far but definitely enjoying my time with it. The story and cast of characters are really well written. Also it gives me a bit of The Expanse vibes ( a show I absolutely love).
I must say though, I'm slightly dreading the ending of Mass Effect 3 cause of how well documented it is as one of the worst/unsatisfactory endings in a game...
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 20-21)
Just finished Mass Effect 2 and started Mass Effect 3. First play through of the ME games and I must say they are really really good.
Re: Video: Here's 7 Minutes Of 'Warhammer 40K: Boltgun' Ahead Of Next Week's Release
@Fenbops just commenting on that banger of a profile pic. ๐๐ Never leave home without your coconuts
Re: Telltale's The Expanse Series Kicks Off This July On Xbox
Oh totally forgot that this is coming out. Absolutely adore The Expanse and curious to see how this turns out.
Re: Xbox Users Are Finding More 'Just For You' Deals On The Store This Week
Actually saw that Diablo deal and picked it up. Good deal that.
Re: COD Going Xbox Exclusive 'Would Not Significantly Harm Competition', Says EU
This is what happens when you actually do your job and objectively investigate it. The FTC is clearly on an agenda against big tech and well the CMA is essentially just sesame street isn't it. ๐
Re: Obsidian Has 'No Plans' For A Sequel To Xbox Exclusive Pentiment
One of the best games I played last year and no it doesn't need a sequel. Just makes it all the more special as it is.
Re: Indie Dev Prefers Selling Games Outright Despite 'A Pretty Good Deal' With Xbox Game Pass
I agree, I'm quite puzzled cause based on how the game reviewed which was average according to opencritic, I assume he would have made more money out of the game pass deal than outright selling it cause I don't think they would have got the sales volume. Just my guess
Re: 'Mouse' Looks Like Cuphead In First Person, And It's Coming To Xbox
Ah cheers. Love the art style of cuphead and love that teams are willing to try stuff like this. Totally up my alley this...
Re: Pokรฉmon Dev Teams Up With Take-Two To Create New IP
Hey boys, a little off topic but I saw this on Windowscentral earlier today and you guys should cover it. Really cool looking shooter if true for Xbox and PC:
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/mouse-looks-like-cuphead-as-a-first-person-shooter-and-its-coming-to-xbox-and-pc
Re: EA Details Next Major Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Update, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Sherhi as someone who works as an engineer in the automotive industry, I can tell you that is not true. Simply because facelifts of model updates typically have not only visual updates but also technical updates to certain components where there may have been a new design to it but this isn't the point.
The point, there is 0% chance that a manufacturer would put out a product that they know is flawed 100% of the time to sell to the public. For example sake, in automotive, a Mercedes or a BMW selling a 6 cylinder car would never say, "oh well 2 of the 6 cylinders are misfiring on all our cars, but f**k it were gonna sell it anyway". That would never happen.
If you're talking about manufacturing defects, then all of the happen due to various reasons in the manufacturing process, be it a machine fault or human error but again a quality assurance or management team would never intentionally approve a 100% flawed product in the manufacturing to sell to the customers. And this applies to every manufacturing industry because people will generally just not buy a broken product.
So yeah, this only seems to happen in gaming. I can't even think of other media (movies, music) where this happens.
Re: EA Details Next Major Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Update, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Bartig yeah my comment was on the broader industry and what's going on. Though Survivor on PC seems a lot more broken than the consoles.
Re: EA Details Next Major Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Update, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Bartig buddy it's not about "hatehypetrain" (don't even know what that means) but objectively this is the only industry where someone could sell you a broken, unfinished product at full price and be ok with it, When you can get the finished product, whenever that is, at a fraction of the price.
If you feel you got your moneys worth that's good for you but the principle behind it is not ok.