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Games pass is only part of the puzzle. If Xbox advertised their products like Nintendo & Playstation. Then would we be having this conversation.

@Fishmasterflex96 there was a rumour that studios have said that Phil & the team wanted them to makes games that would win awards. Hoping the hype would bring in sales/subs.

As for sustainable. Xbox now says that Games Pass isn't. Then you had Sony saying that selling 1st party single player games at $70 wasn't sustainable due to average low sales within a highly popular eco system & higher budgets each gen. Free to play & Live Service is a death sentence if it fails. But the holy grail if successful. Add the increasing costs of everything. Then it obvious that an expensive hobby like gaming would be hit hard.

@ScalenePowers Phil Spencer saved Double Fine. They used the money from the purchase to finish Psyconaughts 2. It's some how ironic that when he is gone that there possibly closed.

@eduscxbox Nadella said his biggest regret was killing Windows mobile. As he said you can only influence/change an industry. If you have a platform to highlight it. Doesn't matter how small it is.

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@Banjo- unfortunately it's not enough. When you have both Playstation & Nintendo literally everywhere. Microsoft never learns. I don't get why they still try to make consumer products. As they just don't get it.

@Banjo- I guess. But you never know Xbox may advertise something in the future.

@MinervaX76 the same reasons that State of Decay 3 makes sense to be on Playstation could be used for Gears E Day. Except the earlier hasn't been on PlayStation. But will have fun with both.

@Skinny-Pete if a survey asking what fans want the most. Can bring back exclusives to Xbox. PC users voted with there wallets & didn't buy Playstation PC ports. So they stopped. We still have the power to make change. Yes I'll be playing E Day on my Xbox & Asus Rog Ally when on the move.

@Jaxx420 cheers for the heads up. I'm starting to agree.

@McKeownPlayz do you listen to yourself. Why do I care. Like I said. I enjoy the freedom that Xbox was providing. That I can pretty much buy/sub there games on any device I wish & play with who I wish with little to no barriers.
Oh the poor developers. The people that make the games we enjoy. How dare we wish them well so they can continue to do so🤦.

Xbox slashing marketing budgets when they have an exclusive on the way in October. What could go wrong. So much for wanting better sales across the board. Even Playstation marketed Saros with billboards, commercials etc.

Hopefully these changes are better than the achievements. As I preferred the deleting of 0 score rather than hiding. As it shows ok on the Xbox app. But on the Xbox it's nasty as it hasn't hidden anything. Unelse they disappear the next time I use it? As all these games/ demos that I can't even remember playing were on it yesterday. All hidden did was make them hazy lol. Even getting to look at my whole list. Took me a minute or two to find.

@Banjo- I've been with Xbox since it's launch. Due to a faulty Blu-ray drive on my PS2 & still hard feelings towards Sony for helping the demise of the Dreamcast. Still my favourite console of all time. I agree. Xbox allows flexibility that I enjoy due to kids all being on the various consoles throughout the house. So to able to pick up & play is a must for me which PlayStation did with Horizon: Zero Dawn remake. But then abandoned it. Have fun playing Forza Horizon 3 on whatever Helix now evolves into.
I've said the same for a while & point to a few articles that point out that yes Xbox is a smaller platform. But has a better attachment rate for certain genres than Playstation. So all those that scream exclusives sell consoles. It's not that simple.

@AverageGamer yes the Playstation games have been out longer. But I dug more & found that Gears of War 2018 sold 2.5 million in 3 months on Steam. Spiderman was 1.3 million in 4 months. Couldn't find anything on Horizon: Zero Dawn launch. So that's just two games. But the bulk of the sales are at launch. Which isn't surprising.

@Skinny-Pete i'm sure there may be a few who are worried. As all developers want there games to be available to as many gamers as possible. It's also funny you say "that they should be happy they have a job" 🤦. What happens if the strategy doesn't work. The games don't sell well being exclusive. They don't increase Games Pass subs etc. Then they could loose there jobs. We could have studio closures etc.

@McKeownPlayz 😆😆😆 I haven't traded my Xbox in. It's my main platform 🤦. I also have a PS5 & Asus Rog Ally. So have enjoyed the freedom Xbox provides.

@Schonks we could have had more exclusives announced on Sunday 😆. But they didn't. I'd also like to know what exclusives your talking about for the helix launch. As CoD can't. Minecraft is a no. A new Forza Horizon, State of Decay, Fable, Halo will take years to make & if successful on Playstation. Then what? Does that fall under a case by case basis. Also if Devs are forced to make exclusives. Talent then leaves, games suffer then studios get closed. Or they just make multiplayer titles to stay multiplatform then the games become generic. That's my worry.

@McKeownPlayz why is it funny. It just proves that if they can do it to Gears E Day. They could have done it to many more. I don't buy the whole honouring commitments. Yes CoD is bound by regulatory commitments. But the rest? As if that's there way of thinking. They should have just stuck with being multiplatform. As it's clearly what they want to do. Which is fine with me. I just want transparency. As if a certain titles hits the criteria of being exclusive like a single player title. Then why make one. Then we have a Redfall situation all over again.

So all the other non Playstation 5 announced titles prior to the showcase could have been exclusive also then like State of Decay 3. That has never been on PlayStation. Xbox would rather honour commitments to company that has no problem taking games from them. It would have been better if all games were announced for Playstation. At least we would know where we stand. But now. What a joke.

@Banjo- exactly. But Playstation doesn't need PC. But Xbox needs PlayStation. It's funny how people think. I preferred Xbox's approach of being able to play anywhere.

@AverageGamer outside of CoD & Minecraft. Playstation games on Steam have sold better than Xbox's on PS5. As people use Forza Horizon 5 as the benchmark at 5.8 million & Sea of Thieves at 2.7 million. But Horizon Zero Dawn on Steam sold 4.5 million. God of War 2018 sold 4.2 million. Then Helldivers 2 hit 13 million.

If Xbox wanted to show a message they'd have cancelled Halo, Fable & Forza Horizon 6 for PS5. As releasing a copy of each of those tentpole titles with Gears through out the year of Xbox 25 with advertising would shift consoles. But now consumers will scratch there heads & wonder why I need an Xbox for Gears E Day but can play the rest on there PS5.

@shiny-enzo why. If anything. Gears E Day should have gone to Playstation as now they only have GoW: Reloaded. Which didn't sell well. So is that why it's now exclusive to Xbox!!! If Xbox plan on more exclusives then they should cancel Halo campaign evolved & Fable on PS5 as if they don't plan to porting more single player titles? Does that mean Xbox studios will prioritise online games so they don't become exclusive. Like @Weebleman said. We are back to it's only 4 games & the Bethesda/ABK acquisitions case by case basis bull. Either go fully exclusive when possible or continue being multiplatform. Stop the bull.

I don't buy it!!! As Senua was only announced today & State of Decay 3 never had a platform attached to it. Plus Gears E Day was rated so the PS5 port must have recently been scrapped.

I get the whole new IP being exclusive for Clockwork revolution. But if your gonna make Gears E Day exclusive. Xbox should have cancelled the PS5 ports of the tentpole titles: Fable, Halo, Forza Horizon 6 & State of Decay 3. As one a year is wasting everyone's time.

@themightyant I still think making Gears of War E day an exclusive is pointless if the other tent pole Xbox games Halo, Fable & Forza are on Playstation. I'm surprised they didn't make State of Decay 3 exclusive.

That was disappointing!!!. I'm one of those who enjoy the multiplatform approach. So when I heard the possibility of exclusivity. To save the console. I thought if your going to do it you're better to go all in when possible. Or stay the current course. But if it's one title a year. Your wasting everyone's time.

@carlos82 rival stores on helix to me is a sign it's likely an all digital platform. This is to follow the guidelines set by the EU's Digital Markets Act.

@Jaxx420 aye just like the PS5 .

@DarthVerde but it isn't about exclusive games ATM. That could change as Sony could get hammered for taking single player games off of PC if sued . It's more about if Xbox goes all digital next gen. Then Microsoft has a monopoly on its platform.

@Jaxx420 Microsoft may try that. But the point the EU made of Xbox during its Digital Markets Act investigation was. That the walled garden approach would breach EU law if the eco system ditched a disc drive.

@Fiendish-Beaver @Balaam_ again this may not be what the higher ups at Microsoft wanted. But if Helix is a digital only platform running Windows. Then by the ruling of the EU it has to stay an open platform. As they were named a gatekeeper. For which they were fully investigated including Xbox. So they were given a set of rules for which they needed to implement & follow for breaching the Digital Markets Act. If found guilty again they will be fined 20% of there yearly earnings. It grows again afterwards for each offense.

Microsoft need to advertise helix & it's games aggressively to get people on board. Not just 1st party but also 3rd party games like Playstation does.

@HonestHick it's always has been Microsoft's weakness. All there consumer products have failed against the competition. Is largely due to lack of awareness & advertising. I agree. I see Playstation on billboards. Side of buses. Also on TV, radio & in the cinema. Reserved shop space etc. But Xbox. If your lucky a cardboard stand at my work. The odd controller on display. A poster. Your correct that it is pathetic. Likewise. Your posts are always well thought out & straight to the point.

Still need to hire a descent advertising team. With a budget to make a difference.

@Swandivetotheasphalt that's the problem. In the short term Playstation is making a ton of money. But The shareholders won't be happy. As all areas of new growth outside of the console have failed for Playstation. Plus live service has been more a miss than a hit.

Live service: which Playstation said that they would use the constant revenue stream to reinvest & make the tent pole single player titles. But due to cancellations has cost hundreds of millions.
PC: Which is forecast to overtake consoles in gaming revenue by 2030 has been largely rejected. Due to poor early ports. High pricing. PSN requirement. Loosing single player titles sales will also hurt reinvestment in sequels
Mobile: the biggest gaming market by far. Playstations attempt just fell flat.

Also add the rising cost of consoles becoming $700-$1000. A large percentage of userbase being casual. So they don't buy 1st party games. Will probably stick with a PS5 than upgrade to a PS6 due to favourite casual games being playable for years to come. Then in the long-term Sony could be in trouble!!!!

It will be interesting to see what these future single player titles will look like. As Sony once said that they needed both live service & PC ports to finance future single player titles due to rising costs & high expectations. But both have been failures.

@Nexozi not really. If they bundle a code with new purchases. Or do what they did at the start of the gen where if you have a Xbox one disc of a title. You'd get the Series copy free which was obviously digital. So whack your old games in your Series X & get access to a digital copy for Helix

As long as Helix still allows other store fronts for competitive pricing. Then I couldn't really care less about a disc drive.

If Xbox don't back track on the 3rd party stores. Plus doesn't lock windows down to say a Dev mode. They could have a descent under the TV PC. Which even the high end PC users may purchase for casual use.

@Balaam_ Nintendo & Playstation aren't killing it in software. As both the Nintendo network & PSN are garbage. I'd say it's the only place Xbox outperforms the competition is it's OS.

@Questionable_Duck exactly. If they want any chance to grow in Asia. That includes China. They need to invest in local talent. If a purchase was required. Sega would be a good fit. But I'd prefer a partnership. But only if it's to be run independently. Xbox could be rebranded as Sega in Asia.

@Questionable_Duck I'd say if Xbox is gonna invest in Asia. It needs to create infrastructure organically & dedicated teams to run itself. As being seen as an American product is Xbox's biggest curse in the region. Bringing Phil & the rest of the squad out over hiring local talent that knows the region better never made sense. To grow in the region.

@HonestHick you do as have had many descent conversations with yourself. As for Xbox. It's good to see excitement again. Can't wait to see what the summer showcase brings.

@pepsilover2008 the Playstation network is the biggest reason how I couldn't just game on a PlayStation. As it's just horrible.

@Fiendish-Beaver it does indeed. Next time a job opening comes up. Put your name down 👍.

@Sol4ris I enjoyed being able to pick & choose where I want to play as I've got kids. So having on all formats was a blessing. It's what I'll miss if Xbox goes back to exclusivity.

@Questionable_Duck @HonestHick you both tell it how it is.

@Questionable_Duck aye the same people who celebrated Playstation PC ports being halted. I wonder if that rumour is part of the reason Xbox is looking at exclusivity. As well as the small amount of titles really exploding on Playstation also.