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@Millionski Now you're getting it. That's exactly how it will be.
If it's a decent enough PC and I can launch steam games within 30 seconds of power on, then it has my attention. Anything else and it will mean nothing to me.
I suspect that offerings like this will kill off most interest from traditional console owners, but we only need wait a while and see.
Regardless of their PC success or otherwise, its clear to me that Xbox is dead. The 'everything is an Xbox' ad campaign now makes sense: It's not dead, its just now a PC.

I don't normally play Multiplayer shooters. But I loved this game and can really see why others do to.

Its great its now on Xbox and now all can play it and have fun.

Neither gonna get me to resub.
I bought and played veilguard and thoroughly enjoyed it, as did my wife. Well worth a go on a service!

They can call it what they want, this is just a pc with an xbox logo on it. Its not an xbox at all.
No use for a handheld in our house, and so I wouldnt even consider this even if it were an xbox and played xbox games.

Ive become enamoured of a fun little rpg Sand Land which is fun and charming as long as you are not looking for anything too serious. Its also on PS plus, so costs nothing to try if you are on that service, and I do recommend it!
Still playing Forza 5 on a second run through and just starting the dlc tracks. Ive always loved Forza Horizon.
Im hoping to try the new Prince of Persia 2d game too, thats looking great.

Whatever you are playing this weekend, I hope you have fun.

@HonestHick Sweet! Ive not picked up switch 2 yet, but bound to happen some time. If I need to play in bed we have a portal, which is mainly used by my wife but which Ive been impressed with on the couple of occasions Ive used it. We dont have a need outside the home, which is why I dont have portable PC.

@HonestHick Sometimes an obvious reveal of a controller is just that.
Its a same theres not more innovation in this, but TMR sticks is a big win and this is an option well worth considering I think.

I see the foil hat brigade are still playing damage control. Its laughable.

Im glad the game is now on xbox for those that want it. I acknowledge that opinions are varied, but I had a great time with the game and I hope many others will enjoy it now.

Hall effect sticks and in the right place for me (slight preference). Im sold. Ive changed my tune since jan, now I cant use wireless on series x.
Hate that its wired, but seeing as my series x is now finding it impossible to connect to any wireless pad for any length of time (a known issue apparently), Its good enough for my uses. I'll grab one of these as soon as I can, my wife can then play on xbox if she feels the need 😀

Its also added to ps plus, so theres a choice of where to play if you have both. It would be rude not try it! 😀

Just wanted to congratulate you on your stamina Fraiser! I couldnt make it through all that, but it was a day packed with interesting news. Thanks for staying the course so you could tell us! 😀

@Fiendish-Beaver I'd be shocked if they actually sell out, unless stocks on release are very low. This is not a market segment that invites huge sales and its clear these units are not very different from other hand held pc's, so I'd be surprised if there's a huge rush to buy one. Still, I've been wrong many times and don't doubt I could be this time.

It was a D at best. So little innovation..
At least there were some highlights which do seem well worth looking forwards too.

When Lego Batman makes it onto the highlight list, you know you were struggling!
The new Black myth game will be years out.
The new Bloober game looked suprisingly good.
Indiana Jones dlc looked fine.
Ghost looked sweet!

@Fiendish-Beaver Yes mate, I think we will both be hanging on to our series x boxes for many years to come!

@Millionski I actually said quite clearly " I do think loyalty is an admirable trait so I like to see it even if I don't share it."
You mentioned insta, and it so happens I did delete that account so I said so. But I haven't deleted any others and can see little relevance in the question to the topic under debate as I have not brought up any discussion or point related to ethics in any of my posts.
However, we tend to agree that games and machines should be bought based on what you want to play. That makes both of our choices perfectly valid. 95% of titles I play are 3rd party anyway, so I'd have no problem sticking with Xbox if that were my prefered platform. There's more games than we can play anyway, so missing one or two is not the biggest deal.
The difference here is that Sony are following the strategy they always have so I know what to expect, while Xbox are making a huge change and have not been forthcoming about what they are doing or when or what that will mean. No one needs to make the change now, so by the time such decisions need to be made we will have more facts to work with. I hope they nail the PC box, I do have plenty of titles on Steam. If I can pick up a controller and be playing my steam games in 30 seconds its a winner. If I'm navigating launchers and having to do config per game, then its a failure for me.
I'm sure when the time comes we will have more chats in this very forum! Have a great day.. 👍

@Millionski Yup, corps are bad....and yes I did delete my insta account. My interest in the business is because I made AAA games for a living for 20 years - it was my business.
However, I've always bought games machines based on them playing games. I was importing machines into the UK long before they were ever imported by businesses and have owned just about every piece of games hardware since the Atari and Colecovision machines were first released (I was 13 when Atari released the VCS.)
I don't advocate skipping a machine because you don't like the corp that makes it, unless you feel particularly strongly about it. Indeed, despite fessing up to hating MS corp, I still said I'd be all in on the PC box if they get it right. If they don't then they will have nothing to offer me - I have a £4K PC for windows 11 gaming already, I just far prefer consoles. With most of my owned titles being on the PS and far preferring the whole PS eco system, why would I have a Xbox at all unless it does under the telly PC correct? I'll get everything I need from my PC, PS and a switch 2 (when I get around to picking it up). My buying decisions are based on "If it plays games I can't get anywhere else, I'll have it"
Those with a large collection are likely to have to keep their current console, as the bulk of Xbox games will not have a windows alternative as early adopters of the ROG machine will discover. Those with great internet will have options to stream some, but I suspect most people will keep a series X to play their games natively. I don't expect to be getting rid of mine, its been the least used console I've owned in 45 years, so it should last a while (even if it cant connect wireless controllers any longer). I wouldn't, and haven't, suggested anyone should get rid of theirs either - it makes sense to see what MS delivers and rely on what they promise. Especially for you and for many others who have such an investment in the system, MS is the place for you if they make a machine that works for you. Starting from scratch would be pretty daft imo and I never suggested you should.

@GuyinPA75
I don't believe Nadella cares for the consumer, so I despise him, but if he creates unending growth in revenues and dividends, then I'm sure the shareholders love him regardless. Looking after your customers is not necessarily the best way to growth when you run a monopoly, and Windows is, to all intents and purposes, such a monopoly.

@darylb24 Thanks for the info mate. Leaving such things to pot luck is not good...

@KayUK Ouch. I've been advised of coil whine and that some PS5's suffer. None of mine have, so I guess I'm lucky!

@KayUK
Really? I think you may have a faulty unit? I've had 4 PS5's now (2 originals, now replaced with 2 pro's) and every unit I have had has been silent. I love how quiet this gen is (my series X is silent too) - its a far cry from the sounds of the PS4 pro, which always sounded like it wanted to take off!

@Fiendish-Beaver I'm not sure I understand either mate, but I do think loyalty is an admirable trait so I like to see it even if I don't share it.
Personally I've despised Microsoft since the 80's. But Xbox was its own division and used to run with almost detachment from the main corp. I've worked with Xbox and their rep with devs for being decent people to work with is well deserved. Its therefore particularly hard for me to see the reigns being taken by MS corp, but it was what I feared from the moment the ABK plans were first discussed.
If they are successful in bringing a PC/Console without the PC faf to under my telly, I'll still be on board, but if not, its no biggie to me, as I prefer to play on PS anyway, its my prefered hardware, where I buy all my games and the system my wife will actually play (she cannot stand xbox controllers, just won't play with em).
I still think its shame that the series X will be remembered as the machine that killed Xbox, when the machine is fine - more than fine.

There's barely anything that uses the power of this gen yet and that series x black box has rarely got to stretch its wings.
Nice to see some people will support the corp no matter where they lead, but given the issues with this gen there's likely to be a need for persuasion for the general public to buy into their next vision. If they shift to Windows 11as they state, then many people will lose the bulk of their collection which simply won't run on the new machine. Marketing word salad will not disguise this issue and credibility is going to be MS's biggest problem.

Sea of Stars is the one I'll miss as I haven't done the DLC. Well worth buying anyway

Still working my way through Dragons Dogma 2, 93 hours in.

I started having a look at Sand Land today and I have to say Ive found it charming so far, so I expect to play a lot more.
Probably run a few more races in Forza Horizon 5 too.

Whatever you are playing, I hope you have a great weekend!

well its quite clearly a controller, the video leaves no doubt. Maybe its a new design of controller with gyro and haptics? I shall be keen to see.

I'd be delighted to see Halo reclaim the prestige the series deserves and I hope against hope that the same team that have so far ruined it will get it right. I'm not sure an engine change and change of studio name is indicative of them re-claiming that pedestal though.
I know others have a different perspective, and everyone is of course entitled to their opinion. But the infinite campaign was the worst AAA experience I've ever suffered in over 40 years of gaming everywhere, and I've no idea why I persevered it to completion - maybe because I thought there must be some saving grace there somewhere. At least from such a low starting point they can only go up, it's surely impossible to do worse. Given how highly I rated 2 and the first one, I'd love to see it make a come back.

It's a little underwhelming for my tastes, but I will watch anyway and I'm pretty sure there will be a surprise or two which will help with impact.

Thoroughly enjoyed playing this game. I'm glad those with access to just an xbox now have the opportunity too.
I can only speak of my own experience of course, but there are many people who really enjoyed this title and I completely understand why.

The bed is made, there's no going back.
They need to be completely up front about the windows 11 gaming future and make it something to be excited about rather than concerned about.
If they can do the above whilst still holding celebrations of what we have all enjoyed about Xbox gaming, making us remember all the high points whilst believing in a new future, then many will choose to stay and see what they offer.
What they shouldn't do is continue to offer BS world salad excuse laden announcements which say so little, whilst celebrating huge sales on Playstation. This is clearly alienating the very people who made a success of the brand in the first place and who should be cultivated to to be the core group moving to their new windows 11 vision.
I've never not had an Xbox. I need a reason to want one for the future.

Seems like a pretty reasonable controller, and one I'd consider if I needed a new one.
My series X barely manages to run a controller wirelessly these days (like many other people reporting the same in online forums) so I have to use my controllers wired anyway. Most annoying

@Balaam_ That's pretty unlikely mate.
It looks like the overhaul is to coincide with the PS5 release and all previous games which have had such updates have also been updated for Xbox, so I'd suggest you will definitely get the updated engine and all the fixes at around the same time. Sounds like they have done a lot of work so hopefully it will tempt you back in!

Not normally moved by xbox special edition controllers (but I have two forza special editions), but this is a great design. Well worth.

Jesus, thats Fugly. It's hard to imagine anything been uglier than this. I'm very happy to keep mine black - though I like the look of white too!

I agree with the article - it sounds like end of game support options to be added to this game only. I think it's clear now that another motorsport will not happen.
That's a big shame as I really don't like the current game, but have loved previous iterations. I was hoping maybe they would get it right in a future release, but it's clearly going to be a dead franchise now.

As usual, MS paying a price for announcing games far too early.
There's a perception that MS have trouble developing games to conclusion that's supported by them announcing games which are little more than ideas with an FMV trailer. But they continue to do it.
It's always been the case that a large proportion of games will fail and get canned, that's the nature of this business, but those games should never have been announced in the first place until it looks clear they are going to deliver.

Herdling is definitely my type of game. I suspect I'll buy it rather than rent it as its likely to be cheap enough.
Nice enough additions, but nothing head turning.

I've no need for a handheld, but its a smart looking unit and I'm very interested in how it performs in terms of the OS.
I hope it's brilliant for all those waiting for it.

Apparently it's a 13 hour game. I want more game per $ than that so I'll pick it up maybe when its half price and not before.

@Banjo- Sorry, was only referring to ps5. As you say, I dont think you could on ps4.

@Banjo- "the start-up beeps of PS are annoying" Just for info, you can turn it off or indeed adjust the volume to low/medium if you want.

Edit: Sorry, old news I see someone already mentioned it!

Nothing to tempt me back here. At least I have more time to clear the backlog!

I loved this game, really enjoyed it.
I'd be happy to see more people get a chance to play it, but I completely agree with @Fiendish-Beaver - this is the very definition of people clutching at straws. It's pretty funny to see it tbh...

Great that this is wireless as well. Decent price considering its specs...

Vanity editions only make sense if you are selling the original item. Who's gonna buy it? There's only so much you can milk the salwart few who hang on.

It's gonna be awful anyway, Ken Levine was the soul behind what made 1 & 2 such memorable games. I don't trust Take 2 to do anything interesting with a 4th title.
Judas is the title I really want to see.

Thats right up my street I must say. Id definitely like to play this. Maybe if theres a couple more titles on GP that interest me I can resub for a month and give it a try, otherwise I may consider purchase elsewhere as my wife would potentially enjoy this as well. I think its a nice gp addition.

Still enjoying Dragons Dogma 2, despite some oddities!
Itching to try Banishers so I might start tomorrow..

Whatever you are playing this weekend, I hope you have fun.

$5b GP revenue seems dissapointing? It only implies something like 30 million subs and given the bangers that have been launching on GP, I'd have certainly expected a bit higher.
As many people have said it would be nice to see the profit, but that completely depends on accounting decisions. Im pretty sure it must be fairly profitable.
Though a statement like this is carefully crafted to present data in the most favourable light, I genuinely believe MS has picked a path to great steady profits, and their publish everywhere philoposhy is clearly the way foward for continued success.