Forza Motorsport Team 'Assures' Players That Support Will Continue

They have the game in a good spot right now. Hopefully the new content continues but if not, it is still a very good sim racer.

Why would they rope PG into it? Lol. They're safe. More than safe. The question is... will there be a sequel to FM? I personally don't think there will be. I think T10 gets shuttered soon after FM has been sunset.

Glad to hear but there is no denying how this game lost to GT7. Only thing that really redeems it for me is the variety of cars, engine swaps, and that Japanese mountain road track they added.

The death of a proper career mode in both FM8 and GT7 really killed my excitement for these games.

I had no doubt that they would continue to support Motorsport but whether will get a sequel in a few years time or not, I don't know. I think they could just update and keep FM going for many years if the game stays popular enough to warrant that support.

They can add tracks, cars and update it for newer hardware almost indefinitely if they wanted...

@Kaloudz i agree on that. Their wording sughests this is the last game. They said they'll continue to support this game, but if there was going to be any more games I would think they would have said "support the franchise" instead.

Unfortunately this does indeed sound like it's the end of the road for Forza Motorsport. Def on end of life support and once everything has been added it'll just be general bug fixes and keeping the servers switched on. The game wasn't ready when it released. They also should not have gone for a live service model, especially for single player. It's sad as I can't see there being any follow ups.

So this is how the very first franchise Xbox made from the ground up reached the end…

It’s particularly sad as not even Halo can be called a home grown IP like Forza Motorsport was.

I wonder how many are missing Bizarre Creations now...

@FuzzieGinge88 Exactly, and do you know what? I think it was due. I personally think they should have halved the amount of FM games they were releasing, but that's just me. I think it became too oversaturated to the point every time they announced an FM, it just wasn't as exciting.

@Kaloudz The issue js you can’t really halved the amount of FM… Car games are like sports games. People want to drive the next big new vehicle, just like they want to play the new player roster for that year. New cars get every years, and old ones get face lifts.

Unless they continually dumped dlc… It really only made sense to release a new game every 2-3 years to keep up with the car industry.

@AverageGamer Yeah I guess there's a point there, but it's not like keeping up with the times has done them any favours. Games in general are ridiculously expensive to make, but games like this, which require heaps of licensing and tech work (such as design, track measuring etc...) are no doubt wayyyyy more expensive to make.

I'd rather have seen less with more, than more with less, if that makes sense - with bigger gaps between.

After the news stories about Turn 10's social media going silent since the studio was basically shuttered, it looks like Sarah Bond logged into their Twitter to let us know everything is A-OK.

It's nothing that surprising and I could have seen this happening with or without the layoffs. Forza Motorsport was always intended to be a really long live service title. It's just the the game didn't do well on launch, so support gets scaled back a little. It's not that different from Halo Infinite except with the added reality that Forza has a spinoff, Forza Horizon, which has overtaken Motorsport in popularity by a long mile. Most likely it'll just be a while before we see a brand new Motorsport title as the franchise (Xbox) will put more resources toward the more successful Horizon titles.

Good on the team if they can keep it going but yeah content is looking pretty generic and unappealing, I'll wait till the game is cheap and near complete and still be bored with it.

GT7 as much as I hate it, at least it has event variety, many racing games suck with modes/event rules types and I just get bored with them. I still don't own GT7, GT Sport I got very late cheap, it was 'ok' but even then I played a fair amount of it and even then it was more fun to write up a wiki page about it's restructuring for offline then playing the game.

@AverageGamer There are many that are, use their sim rigs and so on. Even then to me 5 to 7 weren't great but I at least had some interest in them. 6 was eh to me in structure, but 5-7 had some fair ideas. 8/2023 just seems like the most flat.

When it's live services, ok 3rd parties or esports games, yeah racing looks kind of an eh space these days.

Not all but some of us do feel like this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVry84ACu0k&pp=ygUWcmF5Y2V2aWNrIHJhY2luZyBnYW1lcw%3D%3D

Not all of us are sports/car brand loyal/nostalgic. But many likely are.

GT/Forza are cheaper then the esports ones that cost per asset, at least with GT/Forza you get enough content in the base game and free updates. So business wise I can respect them, gameplay wise I can't.

Even then Forza doesn't even have a Vision GT 'making prototypes for the car makers' type things either so it has less to deal with there. Just the licenses or types of cars they want to add, make events for, etc. for it's live service model.

While the rest of us racing game fans prefer older games for their gameplay depth and not the latest cars, but what you could DO with the cars. It's why I'm not surprised some youtubers don't just feature old games for nostalgia, or look up older games they never heard of or make challenges is they can make content out of it then the scripted, update drops and more space of modern racing games. But they could be more gamers then racing fans so there is also that.

But then again seeing Indies making games with no license but referenced or copy paste of the real tracks/cars but tweaking things yeah.... You can see the motorsport/car fan ones for sure easily. Or the nostalgia type ones.

The think i find weird is even when you have arcadey ones with no licenses they are just as bland as sims.

Some may praise them I find them mechanically/progression wise the most boring in years, just as much as open worlds or RPG lite modern games with basic movesets.

But that's more my mindset, no one shares that as much. While 20 years ago I can get sims and arcade racers with more progression, mechanics and thought put into them to experiment.

Wreckfest to me is a lesser Flatout. Easy access progression like NFS Shift 1, ok vehicle variety but seemed lacking still to me (kickstrater aside). 2 and Wrecreation to me look like they want competition and don't stand out at all of ideas/direction. I find them very disappointing and generic.

FM 1&2 have a region system that Ride 4 tweaked well enough yet the AI in many of Milestone's latest games suck and are pro level only EVEN ON EASY AI, no joke Ride 4 is unplayable for me, so was MotoGP16 and that has dirt bikes/rally cars and those are playable, the motogp bikes are not. If other devs have better ideas even from Forza series, yet Forza Motorsport just 'tries' to capture an audience and does the bare minimum or it's interesting angle got rewritten and didn't work it's unfortunate.

The upgrades angle was awkward and the credits/position feature was fair but even then MX vs ATV games have done this without credit payouts for years. So it was a fair tweak but didn't do much.

Project Motor Racing is also trying some ok new region and other ideas. But also wants that esports pie I bet.

While others that are esports like have content that takes years to make, modes/cars no one uses and costs more for each asset of cars/track that some people don't even use and are janky. Yeah it's a joke.

@Kaloudz That's where I find Wreckfest or others fit in, no licenses but fair approach.

Thing is I just find them just as weak of execution but that's just me, I see the appeal but I've played better from OG Xbox to 360 era, WRC3's career mode was so good or Dirt 3, or any other OG Xbox exclusive or 3rd parties, or even many PS2 exclusive 3rd party games with great mechanics/progression that just doesn't happen anymore.

To me modern racing games feel like when you look at the many multiplayer modes in a shooter but go yeah we will have 2. Repeat it for the campaign and however structured for multiplayer. That's why I find them kind of boring.

So if the amount of work isn't on licensing but just art/physics then yeah that's why I get disappointed in many modern racing games even those without licenses.

Wrecreation gave me NFS Hot Pursuit 2010 then Trackmania, if it lands sure, but to me the trailers/ads have been disappointing. Even Wreckfest 2 just looks like more of the same but many racing game trailers also are hard to tell what is going on.

I barely can find menus in gameplay footage for racing games as people constantly show the cars/tracks so it makes things annoying to tell what a game has of content.

@SuntannedDuck2 I'd agree, and for me that's where half the issues sit. The amount of work that it must take to get track measurements right, realistic conditioning in different weathers, physics etc... must take some real lengthy time.

I played FM5 a lot, and FM6 a fair bit, but after that I fell off because everything just felt the same but a tiny bit prettier. Like I said upwards, I think they should have spaced out releases more but then who knows how things would have turned out lol..

@TTgowings Bizarre Creations? The makers of Geometry Wars 2? Yeah! I miss them. I still play that game today.

@RetroMan71 And MSR on Dreamcast predecessor to PGR, PGR2, PGR3, PGR4..they were better and more popular then the original Forza series, so MS bought them and shut them down..

@Kaloudz I respect the effort as it can't be cheap, or it's a challenge to do runs around the tracks, audio and more. It's amazing use of tech and making the games what they are.

But there is only so much of that I care about when I care more for event variety or other details more. Not the technical details as much.

@SuntannedDuck2 I totally agree. I think devs get caught up in the things that we disregard after just a few hours lol. I personally lived FM5 the most, but I get it; they have to go bigger and better, and unfortunately that comes at the expensive or a bigger budget that ultimately struggled to repay.