Markatron84

@PhileasFragg who knows, if they play their cards right, WB Games could double the amount of money they lost on Suicide Squad. Never say never 👍

No, mainly because I don't think it's going to be my sort of game. But also, I'm in the same boat as @GoldenPants; I've accumulated so many PC games in the last two years, it's ridiculous. So I'm being very selective about what - if anything - I buy this year, and instead look to actually play some of the games I've amassed. I'll be honest, it's not going great so far because Helldivers 2 has been all encompassing for me.

Warner Bros. has so many IP at its fingertips, yet its output in recent years has been mediocre at best. And the one good game they've put out recently, I won't play out of principle.

Shoulda called it E4.

@Ricky-Spanish Shake 'n' Bake!!

@fatpunkslim we'll agree to disagree then. But I truly think that Xbox's strategy, nuanced as it may be right now, will end in no console exclusive games.

Cracking conversation.

@fatpunkslim

Xbox is on a case-by-case strategy and temporary exclusivity for the games they decide to port, as the facts show. Why aren't Avowed or South of Midnight coming out day one on PS5? Because it's not their strategy!

Not yet it isn't, but it will be. This case-by-case strategy you keep mentioning? Funny how it disregards the many times Spencer has said there are no red lines in regards to what they'd release on competitors' platforms; no games that they wouldn't consider bringing over.

You can continue to repeat the same things based on speculations

I only made one post.

80% of Game Pass subscribers are on console.

Yes. And how many consoles have they sold? What's 80% of bugger all?

Why continue to sign third-party exclusives (Stalker 2, Ark 2, etc.) if they don't care about exclusives?

Because they're trying to up the perceived value of Game Pass, even more so after several price hikes and forcing people into Ultimate if they want day one releases.

Why not announce Avowed and South of Midnight directly on PS5? Maybe they'll come out in 3-4 years, but who wants to play a game 4 years later? A temporary exclusive is still an exclusive.

Because vocal fanboys are getting vocally butthurt about their precious box's games being available on another person's different precious box. They're being eased into it. Think of this slow and measured approach as lube for fanboys.

I'm not saying this as a fanboy,

Never called you a fanboy. I said fanboys are the only ones upset about Xbox games coming to rival consoles.

but simply with common sense and based on the facts.

Debatable.

Good chat.

@fatpunkslim I'm assuming the message directly under mine is directed at me? You didn't "reply" to my comment so there's no real way to know, but:

How many years have we been hearing that Xbox is going to stop making consoles, that Xbox is going to die? Yet they've never been doing so well. Sorry, only trolls say that, or those who don't understand Xbox's strategy.

I never once mentioned that Xbox would stop making consoles or that they were going to die. What I said was that the model of relying on the combo of console-exclusive games and Game Pass subscribers isn't enough to gain the profits the company wants to achieve. Their consoles are selling drastically lower numbers than Sony, and guess what: if 80% of Game Pass subscribers are on console and hardly anyone's buying those consoles, Game Pass subscribers won't increase. They'll stagnate. 80% of not much is still not much. Microsoft clearly sees this, or else they wouldn't release games on competitors' platforms. Sony begrudgingly sees this; they're releasing games on PC and will eventually cave in and release games on competitors' platforms.

No need to mention you, you've already lost

What?

Xbox is not going to stop making consoles

Correct.

or exclusive games

Incorrect.

We're talking about old games and service games here; Sea of Thieves is the only game that really worked on PS5, so it's normal they prioritize these types of games, and it's the same for FH5 and Age of Empires. It's logical for Xbox to seek money elsewhere after several years.

Correct. They should be squeezing any money they can from the increased player bases gained by putting existing live-service games on PlayStation. Other games - non-live-service games - will follow suit. Eventually they'll all release day and date on PlayStation.

Don't talk to me about Doom, which is already a multiplatform game, or Indiana Jones, which is a Disney license already signed before the acquisition.

I mentioned none of these.

@AlwaysPlaying fair; they did put out Jedi Fallen Order and Survivor. Except, oh wait, neither game was at all polished at launch, and on PC Survivor is still somewhat borked. And the less said about the Battlefront games - especially II - the better.

Battlefield: yet another franchise that falls under the "EA is going to balls this up or abandon it completely" banner. I mean, were Dead Space, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Titanfall and Need For Speed not enough?

I hope it's good, I really do, but in the last 5-10 years, what's EA done to earn the benefit of the doubt?

@fatpunkslim sorry, but in a few years time, there will be no Xbox console exclusives and all XGS, ABK and Bethesda games will launch simultaneously on whatever will run them. You can quote me on that.

Microsoft wants gaming to stay profitable for it as a company, and clearly Game Pass and console exclusives alone aren't cutting it; nor have they been for about a decade.

It's not a bad thing. Only die hard fanboy idiots would see it that way. More games in more places is a good thing.

Hang on. They actually took access to Starfield (and presumably other games) away from people who weren't subscribed to GPU when they changed to the new tier system?

@Guru_Larry come on now, EA isn't in the business of customer satisfaction.

How many times has EA put NFS on ice and brought it back now?

"Well-known Xbox leaker" or not, how is someone saying something evidence? Phil Spencer being spotted playing Gears of War 3 again, wearing a Gears of War t-shirt and wiping his arse with Gears of War toilet paper? Now that's evidence 🙄

@abe_hikura and even if they did have the time to grind or the inclination to spend money, chances are they're already doing that on the regular for another live-service game. The sort of Fortnite mega-success these companies are chasing can't happen for every live-service game; there's a finite amount of time and money available from a finite number of people.

@abe_hikura and this is what publishers still don't understand. Many people

1. don't have the required ridiculous amount of free time to grind in a game like this to unlock things
2. don't want to spend ridiculous amounts of money to unlock things

So those people most likely tried it out and noped out of there. I certainly did.

I didn't play it because it looked like a shambles from the moment they first showed gameplay. I don't feel like I've missed out.

Edit: I actually completely forgot that I played one of the closed tests they did for the game prior to release 🤣

Well when I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I would gather from this announcement then that a Forza Horizon 6 isn't coming for a good few years yet.

Great game, hope PS5 players enjoy it.

@FraserG Nintendo is also a factory owner, also built shells for the Nazis, BUT THEIRS WORKED DAMNIT!!!

At the end of the day - whether that be on their own hardware/storefront or someone else's, local hardware or cloud, through sales or subscriptions - success is success.

@Millionski yes. But until that was cleared up, that was the main point of contention, even though anyone with half a brain could have seen the stupid amount of money Microsoft would be leaving on the table had they made Call of Duty exclusive to Xbox.

And people were concerned that Microsoft would choose making Call of Duty exclusive to Xbox over making a s**t-ton of money.

This is the funniest thing I've heard in ages.

When I said that Spencer playing old Gears games very likely had nothing to do with anything relating to a new game or re-release, @Kezelpaso replied:

@Markatron84 As we said in the post, it seems most likely to be something to do with E-Day, maybe a revisit of the old games after a meeting with the dev team or something?
Either way, we think the timing is intriguing... the man hadn't been on Gears 2 since 2009

Look, I don't like to toot my own trumpet, but toot toot.

@Sol76 I know right? Absolutely wild how you playing old Gears games also had nothing to do with anything

@Lup me neither. I know that there are bases and balls.

@abe_hikura he popped up out of nowhere like All Might. "I AM HERE!!!"

@Kaloudz

Lego City has always caught my eye. Is it any good?

My wife said to say, "No, and I have definitely not played a ridiculous amount of time 100%-ing it on multiple platforms."

So there's that.

I noticed Bleeding Edge there. I didn't realise that game was still going. I remember reading that Ninja Theory stopped supporting/updating it pretty quickly and just assumed they'd shut the servers off since then. That was an interesting game but I lost interest in it soon after it released. Plus its aesthetic and characters were ugly as sin.

No.

And so this comment is long enough for Pure Xbox to let me post it:

No.

Can't complain. I only played a little bit of the multiplayer in Doom and Doom Eternal. I didn't much care for either of them.

I have one word for this presentation: bangin'.

A shadow drop, so the people harping on about those will be happy. We got dates for three very cool looking games. I'm even kind of hyped for Ninja Gaiden 4, a series I've had no interest in previously. Good stuff.

This game looks phenomenal. However, I have two questions:

1. What the hell is that thing flying around over the water?
2. Why is its arse hanging out?

Let's bloody go. DOOM was fantastic. DOOM Eternal was good but by about three quarters of the way through I was ready for it to be over, and there was way too much aerial guff. This looks much more like a return to the 2016 game and I'm so in.

@Doublecell you mean id Software?

There's a typo in the trailer. It says "play day one on Game Pass".

@Xbox_Dashboard I wondered this as well! $40/£35 seems like a low price for this.

Are you telling me - YOU! Pure Xbox!! - that Phil Spencer playing old Gears of War games DIDN'T have anything to do with anything?! I'm flabbergasted, truly.

@FraserG @Kaloudz especially if you try and go for all the gems, time trial medals, etc. I gave up on that very quickly. It is a fantastic game though.

@themightyant Sunrise Turbodrive. God, I'm good.

My wife will be happy if it's shown tomorrow. She played the Silent Hill 2 remake recently and loved it.

Well Phil Spencer has been playing old Gears of War games, so we'll definitely be getting release dates for Gears of War: E-Day, Gears 6, Gears Tactics 2, Gears of War: The Marcus Fenix Collection, Gears Pop 2 and Gears Kart. There will be at least one shadow drop.

@Kezelpaso or, more likely and as I said in my post, it has nothing to do with anything and he's just playing games.

Ultimately, we don't yet know the reasons behind Phil revisiting these classic Gears games.

He's playing games.

the timing of this fresh Gears activity from the Xbox boss is certainly intriguing.

No it isn't.

I swear, if people caught wind that Phil Spencer was playing Pong, Pure Xbox would report that maybe Microsoft bought the IP and were doing a Pong reboot. Just let the guy play games without inferring anything 🤣

@carlos82 true, but the potential buyers across Xbox, PlayStation, PC and Switch/Switch 2 dwarf the N64 user base. I didn't say a potential Banjo revival would definitely do Mario numbers if it released across multiple platforms; just that it selling that well wouldn't be so far-fetched compared to if it just released on Xbox.

Happy 3-year anniversary of @Ricky-Spanish's crusade to get the ABK back-catalogue on Game Pass 🎊🎈🎂

@PsBoxSwitchOwner I agree. Unless, of course, a potential Banjo revival wasn't an Xbox exclusive. If it released on Xbox, PlayStation, PC and Switch/Switch 2? In that case, Mario numbers aren't so far-fetched.

It's either Persona 6 or something from Square Enix.

Or, what the hell, Hi-Fi Rush 2 🤷

@Cikajovazmaj definitely something to be said for Diablo on the go. My wife spent the majority of her time with Diablo IV on Steam Deck and had a great time.

From what I heard about Diablo III on Switch, it sold well and was a really good port. Makes sense that Diablo IV would be in the works for Switch 2.

Xbox reporter. 🤣🤣 I just got in from work and needed a laugh. Thank you.

@Fiendish-Beaver Sorry. Autism. 🤷🤣

@Utena-mobile yeah, brand identity is important. But when clinging to that brand identity gets us one ok game (Halo 4), one mediocre game (Halo 5) and one mediocre game that was so ineptly managed and slapdash that it took literally years after it was released to finally be feature complete, I again do have to wonder when enough is enough.

Maybe the move to Unreal 5 will streamline the development process by finally using an engine you don't need to teach every single new Halo Studio hire and the next Halo will blow the doors off the industry. But I'm not holding my breath.

@Titntin

I do appreciate many of you love Intimate

Is that a proposition? 🤔