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@Kezelpaso This list isn't right. The games you mentioned are not available on Game Pass Ultimate,(except Dirt Rally and Dirt 4) they're all EA Play games that are available on Steam only.

https://www.ea.com/ea-play/terms/service-games-updates

@themightyant Not the same thing. RDR2 and RDR have different stories. Hot Wheels in FH3 and FH5 are the same except Playground Games went back and actually played Hot Wheels in FH3 to work out how they would improve it in FH5.

So no, it's not a weird take. It's a logical take. What you've basically said is why drive a car when a horse and cart does the same thing.

As I said in my original comment, it was great for it's time. But with Hot Wheels now available in FH5 it's basically obsolete.

@NEStalgia Project Cars isn't Codemasters content. It's a Slightly Mad Studios game. EA bought Slightly Mad Studios before they bought Codemasters.

Right now they own more racing game studios than anyone else. Criterion, Ghost Games, Slightly Mad Studios and Codemasters are all EA studios.

@themightyant I don't know about great. For it's time it was I guess. But why would you want to play that when the superior Hot Wheels expansion is out now for Forza Horizon 5? I've played both Hot Wheels expansions and FH5's is superior in every single way.

@Quasicat Agree to disagree on the game looking "amazing" on Xbox Series X. On my 55 inch 4k HDR tv it doesn't look amazing at all, but then the bigger your 4k display is, the more pixelated a game that's rendered at a lower resolution will be.

I bought it in a sale recently based on reviews from people wearing rose tinted glasses because back in the day on a 1080p tv this game would have looked the shiz. Not anymore sadly. At least, not on my tv.

Project Gotham Racing never grabbed my attention. Played all of them a bunch on a buddy's Xbox back in the day, it was fine for it's time but I'm not clamouring for it to come back.

The original Forza Horizon came into existence as a direct result of Xbox's complete lack of interest in reviving PGR in the first place, so I'd say Xbox has moved on. The only slight glimmer of hope I can see is with the impending close of the Activision acquisition, with all those extra developers coming on board they could form a new studio to develop a PGR reboot.

But that's very much pie in the sky stuff. Unless a lot of people start asking for a PGR reboot, and when I say a lot I mean a lot more people than what we have on this website, then I can't see Xbox spending millions reviving a franchise that's been dormant for 15 years.

@Krysus FH3 shouldn't be on the vote for a few reasons : It's a delisted title (I own all the Forza Horizon games so not an issue) and it's not Series X enhanced.

So some people haven't played it to compare it and it's unfair to compare games from different generations.

I think the Series S is great for some people, especially if the PS5 is your main console but you want to play the Xbox 1st party stuff, or you're a budget gamer.

I did consider the Series S very seriously but in the end I waited until I could get a Series X as it suits me better for a few reasons : I have a physical collection of Xbox games that I still want to play every now and again, I wanted more internal storage and I own a large 4k tv which is better suited to the Series X.

I don't know how anyone can think the map in FH4 is better than FH5, especially if you're from the UK. It's an absolutely pathetic representation of the UK, which is even more bonkers when you factor in that the developers are UK based. No excuses for how bad it is.

FH5's map just feels a lot more diverse to me.

If it's £20 in the Uk then that's a fair price.

@Titntin Well yes, that would make sense. If this was on Ps Plus it would have got the same score. Putting something on a subscription service saves people's hard earned money, as you're not paying for this on top of the subscription.

Would I like to see an Xbox VR headset? Yes, with PSVR2 on the horizon and the Series X having the necessary grunt to run VR games it's time for Xbox to give their gamers that choice.

But do I think it will actually happen? No.

@Dezzy70 Umm yes, you are.

The Family plan allows other Xbox users who have their own Xbox account to use your Game Pass without having to switch to your Xbox account. No one earns achievements or reward points using your account.

It also means you can potentially share your Game Pass with friends as long as they live in the same country as you. Again, without them having to switch to your Xbox account.

The August monthly quest for Terraria is bugged, I've mined way more than I need for the quest to pop but it hasn't popped.

The review system on Xbox is an absolute joke, every time I look at a game's reviews on the store to try and gauge if a game is worth buying in the sales the "reviews" are absolutely nonsensical and give me no useful information at all.

Two Point Campus is a game I've been waiting to release for ages, always wanted to try Cooking Simulator and Expeditions Rome sounds like something I'd enjoy.

@rhyno_888 Unsubscribe then man. All people do these days is complain about everything. Show your displease with your wallet instead of typing empty statements on a website.

@Retron Five games are being removed, seven are being added. It even says on the articles of this webstie. Now maths isn't my strongest subject but by my reckoning that would make Game Pass two games better off, not worse off.

@themightyant Game Pass always gives you at least 2 weeks notice that games are being removed, and let's face it, if a game has been there for an entire year and you've not played it you probably weren't that interested to begin with.

I did finish Raji before it left, it's literally only 5 hours long. Did it in one sitting over the weekend.

The only game out of this lot that I had any interest in was Train Sim World 2 which I bought in a recent sale, got the Deluxe Edition for about £8

@sjbsixpack Not on the same level as PlayStation? Agree to disagree on that point. But I do own a PS4 as well so I do understand your point. Ghost of Tsushima was my GOTY for 2020.

@Raffles I also chose to play Cyberpunk and Forza Horizon 5 on PC for the reasons you mentioned, although I dabble with Forza occasionally on my Xbox Series X if I'm just doing drift zones or other non race based events. I tend to only play games on my Xbox that benefit from a large display as I have a 55 inch 4k Dolby Vision HDR tv.

Anything that has a cluttered user interface, is FPS limited at 4k or works best on keyboard and mouse I play on PC.

@sjbsixpack You mean the games that any serious PlayStation gamer has already played? Until Sony put 1st party games on there day 1 like Microsoft does on Game Pass it will always be inferior in my eyes.

@blinx01 While I agree these games aren't as good, one major point you're overlooking is that you have to stay subscribed to PS Plus to play those games. That's not the case on Xbox. Those games with gold are yours to keep regardless of your subscription status.

@Titntin I choose to doubt you because I used to work as a computer technician fixing PCs for a living. A 3090 should not be getting stutters and if it is then it's user error causing it, not the hardware. I also never mentioned where I prefer to play because I don't really have a preference. I split my time between the Xbox Series X and my gaming PC as I have Game Pass Ultimate.

@dsar9012 Doesn't have any exclusives? Look dude, I play on everything except Switch but I'm not as pigheaded as you clearly are. Starfield is exclusive. Forza is exclusive. Hellblade II is exclusive. Halo is exclusive. Gears is exclusive. The Outer Worlds II is exclusive. Fable is exclusive. Microsoft Flight Simulator is exclusive. Sea of Thieves is exclusive. As Dusk Falls is exclusive. Scorn is exclusive. State of Decay is exclusive. Everwild is exclusive. Redfall is exclusive. Warhammer 40k Dark Tide is exclusive. Stalker 2 is exclusive.

@Titntin Yeah sure you have a 10900k and a 3090. You shouldn't be getting stutters at all on that rig unless you're playing off a hard drive. I also game on both PC and Xbox (Series X in my case). Both have their uses but I disagree on only playing on PC if the game needs keyboard and mouse. I would say it 's a lot more complicated than just the control device.

@Relygon Watch Dogs 2 you could crank up the settings a long time ago. It's not a particularly demanding game, unlike it's sequel. I was playing it maxed out at 4k 3 years ago.

@lordzand It doesn't have a higher resolution on Xbox. If you want the full 4k experience at 60fps, which the Series X is more than capable of, you have to play the PC version.

Watch Dogs 2 on an Xbox Series X is an eye sore. A game that maxs out at 900p on a 4k console. Compounded by the fact I play on a 55 inch 4k HDR tv.

@GeekSleeves It's not going to be that different to the Hot Wheels DLC in FH3 either - it can't by design. It's still a Forza Horizon game and the engine isn't built to accommodate the craziness of Hot Wheels. Anyone who's played Hot Wheels Unleased will know what I'm talking about. It's not a full on Hot Wheels experience.

@Utena-mobile you can look for Assassin's Creed 3 Remastered as well as that includes Assassin's Creed Liberation Remastered.

@dsar9012 Your emotional response says a lot about your lack of maturity. Time to grow up kid. Labelling a developer as trash just because they do something you don't agree with is the most kneejerk reaction you can make and says a lot about you.

As for "real gamers want good games", all gamers want good games. Who doesn't want good games exactly? Did you actually think about that sentence before you typing it out or did you go into autopilot?

You know nothing about me, so don't end with "not that you would know about that". I never said I agree with what the devs have done, read what I actually posted.

Your comments add absolutely nothing to this conversation. I've played ESO for a long time if you must know, not that that has anything to do with you.

@dsar9012 You can do a better job yourself can you? Judging by your unconstructive comment I'd say no. You're just trolling for likes.

@Scenes Yes I remember Robocop 3. This game reminds me of Robocop 3 a lot.

@Bleachedsmiles Well if it's next gen only but also coming to Switch I'd expect the Switch version to arrive last and be a significant downgrade from the other versions.Or a completely different game altogether.

@AstraeaV I've played all of the GTA games. I originally played GTA IV on Xbox 360 and I'm now about halfway through a new playthrough on PC. Although my PC version is heavily modded so it looks infinitely better than the original version. About as close to a remaster as I can get for now.

@Titntin The Crew 2 isn't on Game Pass. It does regularly go on sale though.

@AstraeaV None of the GTA games would pass the "woke test" and yet they still remastered GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas and GTA 5. So at this point they might as well remaster GTA IV, especially as a lot of people can't get pass the last mission due to a bug.

@HeroYoshiko Black Apple Cube? Since when did Apple make consoles? Your joke falls flat. I also own a Apple 4k tv box and the Series X looks nothing like it apart from the colour. Elden Ring eh? Well that's one game so not sure where you're getting "the games that count" when you can only name one game.

"It's an Xbox One with more power". Mate you're literally trolling at this point. How is the PS5 any different in that aspect? It's a PS4 with more power.

Switch is not a direct competitor to Xbox or Playstation. And PS5 VR (or to give it It's correct name, PSVR2) will change nothing, the original PSVR was never widely adapted and now you think a VR headset that costs almost as much as a PS5 is going to change that? The Meta Quest 2 might have something to say about that.

@Chaudy The Witcher 2 on 360 was awful. Loads of framerate issues and fog everywhere. I had a PC by the time it released so I played it there but for consoles we need the superior Xbox One X Enhanced version of The Witcher 2 on Game Pass, not the 360 version.

@Agnostic Motion steering is a gimmick, the Xbox controller doesn't have gyros and the most realistic way to play Forza Motorsport is with a wheel and pedals.

Everyone is missing the point. As someone else said, game demos have been dying for at least a decade, I looked on the Xbox store recently and there's hardly any demos at all for games made in the last year or two, and the total number of demos is pathetic.

This move from Microsoft and Sony is to incentivise game developers to make demos again. Game demos cost money to make, and with the cost of game development increasing all the time a lot of developers simply don't bother anymore.

This would be demos of games that will probably end up not being on Game Pass, that would be my guess.

@themightyant SSDs are much smaller than HDDs? This isn't 2011 my dude, SSDs are dirt cheap in 2022. My current PC doesn't have any HDDs at all, I have two m.2 NvMe drives and a pretty fast SATA SSD. And the biggest out of all of those is my secondary m.2 drive.

Old hardware is holding back development of Series X/S games imo, I got my Series X back in January and so far the lack of Series exclusives and deluge of cross gen games is less than ideal. Hopefully we get some good news at the Xbox Showcase next month.

@Richnj I don't know anyone who games on a PC that's still using a HDD as their primary storage device. SSDs are dirt cheap these days and even the newer m.2 drives are reasonably priced. The only reason to own a HDD at this point in time is if you have a lot of high resolution photos, videos, music etc.

Also listing Cyberpunk as an example wasn't the smartest thing to do, that game runs HORRIBLY on a HDD, it's one of the reasons the last gen versions were so poor. Modern games can't stream in data fast enough from a mechanical hard drive.

I'll probably give Cricket 22 a spin as my daughter likes those sort of games (no idea why) but I'll be spending a good few hours playing Pac-Man Museum +

@YouTrash Well we all know 95% of the reviews on Xbox store are from kids who have no idea what a good game looks like, they mostly play Fornite, CoD and FIFA.

So no surprises when something different comes along and gets 1 starred to oblivion.

@mac01208 Not true. Cloud gaming has pretty reasonable Internet requirements. Also if you do own a Series S or X the game is playable offline.

@Terrin You can buy it on PC, but you might need to go to the Microsoft Store. It's currently 20% off there due to leaving Game Pass soon.

https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/store/final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster/c0ksn20brp7z