@Millionski Sure. There's was a leak from Insomniac a couple of years ago. They hacked and got a bunch of stuff from upcoming projects, emails, budgets, sales, etc. Part of it was about 100M for licensing fees to Marvel, for a single game. If memory serves, that fee was high because of the exclusivity. According to their numbers, the games were still highly profitable, but that's a really high fee indeed.
Both Sony and MS announce games too early. Sony's E3 2015 was amazing because it had games releasing up to 2020. But that's the thing, they did eventually release. Even Concord saw the light of day, even if for just a couple of weeks. But I'm gonna be sour about Perfect Dark for a good looooong while. And all these cancellations do have my confidence on a low setting about Xbox 1st party games actually coming out. It's a shame that the gen I finally got an Xbox, it's going to be used mostly as a backwards compatibility machine + some periods of GPU
@Gabrie I've seen a handful of physical games, but they never seem to go on sale. It's weird. But the marketing is zero. No presence whatsoever. It's really weird
@Decimateh I still have my physical version of WC2 from the 90s, but no way to actually play it. There's a website that emulates DOS games on it. Sometimes I drop by to play some WC and Carmen Sandiego
@themightyant On Xbox I don't have that comparison since the SS is my first. On PS I can say that I bought far more games on PS3 than PS4. PS5 is still quite recent, but it's on track to be on the a little lower than the PS4.
@NeoRatt You just proved my point. If defined terminology doesn't matter to someone, they'll just call what they wish. Now, I'll just play a cozy life sim called God of War Ragnarok
@themightyant I haven't bought as many as you and most I bought on Xbox Series were older and/or on sale. The only launch title I actually bought was Hogwarts Legacy. But in terms of numbers, we're the exception, not the rule. The average of games bought per system on any system is surprisingly low.
@NeoRatt Part of the problem, I see, as people not caring about accurate representation. Just like port, remaster and remake. Which according to some people even on this website would mean that the amount of remakes is a surprisingly low number.
Let's use your Perfect Dark example. We have a 1st party owned IP being mainly developed by a 1st party studio with the support (key work, support) from a 3rd party. That's a first party game which can have the added description of having external support.
Let's suppose that Toys for Bob is making Spyro 4. MS owned IP, external studio. Second party.
Things get "complicated" because people start ignoring meaning. At that point, why bother. Just call Black Ops VII a JRPG, Doom an Animal Crossing clone, and the new Perfect Dark a spiritual successor to Superman 64.
Let me ask you this... Is Bayonetta 1st party for Nintendo?
@SMJ Ninja Gainden Dragon Sword for the DS was published by Ubisoft in Europe. So I'd guess it's also a Ubisoft title... Ninja Gaiden is certainly getting around. We might own the IP as well and not even know it
@FraserG So I guess words don't mean anything anymore in this industry. Ports/remasters/remakes and now 1st/2nd/3rd party. Soon enough genres will mean nothing too. "So, this is a first person shooters?" "No, of course not. You play in first person and you shoot a lot, but we like to think of it as a traditional JRPG"
@trev666 and @Millionski I agree that at best it could be called second party
@NeoRatt I have. And since none of them are owned by MS, nor is the IP, they could have 50 studios working on it and it wouldn't change a thing.
@themightyant Spyro is a game none of my PS1-owning friends had. So I only played the remakes. I immediately fell in love. I wanted to try one of the DS ones people say it's actually ok, but the prices were too steep
@Cakefish If the next Xbox integrates Steam, Epic and GOG, I'll be a happy camper. I have a bunch of games (especially on GOG, thanks Amazon), but I don't like gaming on PC. So that would be a great reason to get the next hardware
It might eventually come to Prime Gaming. I'm acutally hopeful they continue their 1st party publishing give aways there. I had only one of the new Wolfenstein games and now I have all of them.
@themightyant I didn't quit, but I still consider Crash to be overrated. Crash hard is more akin to NES Ninja Gaiden hard than a game that's actually well designed with that in mind. Heck! A friend of mine had a PS1 and he'd say any Crash game was waaay better than Mario 64. Since playing Crash I've questioned his sanity. And Spyro is underrated and deserves a new game. Just throwing this out there
@Banjo- I hope they get the price right. I love handheld gaming (I still play on DS and 3DS) and depending on the library and price, portables from Xbox and PS sound quite interesting to me. But if the price is not right and I gotta pick one, that's gonna be tough
@BacklogBrad The big problem is that devs spend so much money making a game, they can't take as many risks as they used to. So games become more of the same, but prettier.
The leap for this gen was held back by the jump in resolution. It takes a lot more horsepower to make the same thing, but in 4k, especially 4k60. We won't have that jump for next gen. And I don't many devs will go crazy on 120fps. So there's great potential for a larger visual leap than this gen had. I just wish there was a significant leap in development and costs involved.
@themightyant I hadn't considered battery life. That's indeed a current impossibility. A breakthrough in this sector is sorely needed. It'd be a whole new tech race if we had affordable batteries that lasted a lot longer and I miss a cool tech race
@Kezelpaso I've given up talking about this to people online, because they'll call your opinion stupid while failing to present their own. I've recently tried for the first time on purexbox and the people who pretend to "know it all" vanished when they had to answer a few simple questions. Alas... I still blame Activision and the Crash trilogy for this mess
I see a hybrid/portable from Xbox and PS facing the same issues.
Scenario 1 - It's the same power level of the PS6/XboxSomething, so the price will be stupidly high, but it'll have tons of games.
Scenario 2 - It's as powerful as a PS5/SeriesX. It'll be more affordable, but it'll stop getting a steady release of games in 2 or 3 years.
The Switch works for Nintendo because of what it offers and the amount of games it gets for a lower price of hardware. I don't see either Xbox or PS being able to replicate that part.
"Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time would mark the series' first Xbox entry after almost three decades of waiting" It's already hard to accept 2012 was 13 years ago. There's no need to write in a way to make it sound like 30. It's the company (Level-5) that's had Xbox wait a long time.
On a brighter note, I'm really looking forward to this one and I'm happy all consoles are getting it. But I'll stick to the Switch for the portability in this case.
@xeofate To give you a counter point and the one time I was not happy with them on this matter. NES/SNES games on the 3DS. They could've used their account system to make sure people who already owned them on Wii U didn't have to buy them again, but they didn't
I actually went the other way around. I got BotW on Switch at launch and some time later I got it on the Wii U to play around a bit. I figured that physical version will have some historical value some day.
@xeofate GB on GBA, GBA on DS, DS on 3DS, GC on Wii, Wii on Wii U. That's not counting Virtual Console and NSO. So basically every gen where it was feasible to have BC, Nintendo did it.
@LogicStrikesAgain A "portable Series S" for $450 would be an interesting strike. But given that they've just pushed the cheapest Series S to $380, I don't think that's feasible
Waaaay too risky. I'll stick with my physical games being played on my Wii, some remasters like Prime, and NSO on Switch 2. I won't mess with Nintendo ninjas and Xbox ninjas at the same time. No, sir.
I've only played Chinatown Wars on the DS. Once my backlog gets smaller on Series S, I plan to give IV a go. Buy the time I get to VI it this might be on sale from $99.99 to $39.99
I'm glad it's the Digital Deluxe Edition. I almost bought it recently on sale. At this point, I'll stop buying older (which were or became) first party titles and continue hoping they come via Prime Gaming.
@Strohl So, for instance... Super Mario RPG and Link's Awakening on Switch are not remakes then. In your view, at least. Did I get it right? I could have list a bunch more, but thought better to stick to two to make sure I see your point clearly.
@Strohl Look, if you don't wanna answer me, just don't. There's no need for this sort of reply. But that's usually what I get on this topic, people can't answer the question, so they lash out. Good day to you
@Strohl They just remade the visuals, gameplay, animations, interface and introduced several QOL features. I'm sorry, but would it take for you to call it a remake?
"Built entirely from the ground-up in Unreal Engine 5" Looks like a remake, smells like a remake, plays like a remake... called a remaster. I'd rather they did what Capcom does and just use the name of the game again
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Re: Microsoft Spends Up To $50m On Xbox Game Pass Partnerships, Says Former Manager
@Kaloudz I hope so too. They did an amazing job that went beyond just their game. They will help shape future RPGs and that's no small feat
Re: Microsoft Spends Up To $50m On Xbox Game Pass Partnerships, Says Former Manager
@Millionski Sure. There's was a leak from Insomniac a couple of years ago. They hacked and got a bunch of stuff from upcoming projects, emails, budgets, sales, etc.
Part of it was about 100M for licensing fees to Marvel, for a single game. If memory serves, that fee was high because of the exclusivity.
According to their numbers, the games were still highly profitable, but that's a really high fee indeed.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Set To Overtake 2024's Game Of The Year With Over 3 Million Sales On PS5
Great for Forza Horizon 5. It's a great game.
I wish Astro Bot sold better though. Such a fun game
Re: Microsoft Spends Up To $50m On Xbox Game Pass Partnerships, Says Former Manager
@Kaloudz Sony pays 100M+ just to keep Spider-Man out of Xbox and Nintendo. And that was Miles Morales if I recall correctly.
Re: EA Japan GM Comments On Xbox Layoffs, Says Long-In-Development Games 'Deserve To Ship'
Both Sony and MS announce games too early. Sony's E3 2015 was amazing because it had games releasing up to 2020. But that's the thing, they did eventually release. Even Concord saw the light of day, even if for just a couple of weeks.
But I'm gonna be sour about Perfect Dark for a good looooong while. And all these cancellations do have my confidence on a low setting about Xbox 1st party games actually coming out.
It's a shame that the gen I finally got an Xbox, it's going to be used mostly as a backwards compatibility machine + some periods of GPU
Re: Romero Games 'Trying To Fund' Project After Sudden Loss Of Xbox Support, Says Developer
Maybe he should give Nintendo a call. It saved Bayonetta.
Re: Ex Blizzard Boss Thinks Microsoft Should Pick Its Xbox Strategy And 'Stick To It'
Lack of focus can be quite detrimental to a brand. Just ask SEGA.
Re: Microsoft Planning To 'Restructure' Xbox Distribution In Central Europe, Says Report
@Gabrie I've seen a handful of physical games, but they never seem to go on sale. It's weird.
But the marketing is zero. No presence whatsoever. It's really weird
Re: Meta Quest 3S 'Xbox Edition' Launches Today For $399, But You'll Need To Be Quick
People can't claim the product failed for selling too little if it sold 100% of inventory
Re: 'Blood Message' Looks Like Assassin's Creed Meets Tomb Raider, And It's Coming To Xbox
"Blood Message is a narrative-driven, linear action-adventure single-player game"
Already hoping this turns out great and sells well
Re: These 11 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (June 18 - July 1)
@Decimateh I still have my physical version of WC2 from the 90s, but no way to actually play it. There's a website that emulates DOS games on it. Sometimes I drop by to play some WC and Carmen Sandiego
Re: These 11 Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (June 18 - July 1)
@Decimateh that would be a dream come true!
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
@themightyant On Xbox I don't have that comparison since the SS is my first. On PS I can say that I bought far more games on PS3 than PS4. PS5 is still quite recent, but it's on track to be on the a little lower than the PS4.
Re: 2K Not Following Microsoft & Nintendo With $80 Game Prices, For Now
If the MSRP for GTA VI isn't $79.99 or higher, the whole world will be shocked
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
@NeoRatt You just proved my point. If defined terminology doesn't matter to someone, they'll just call what they wish. Now, I'll just play a cozy life sim called God of War Ragnarok
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
@themightyant I haven't bought as many as you and most I bought on Xbox Series were older and/or on sale. The only launch title I actually bought was Hogwarts Legacy.
But in terms of numbers, we're the exception, not the rule. The average of games bought per system on any system is surprisingly low.
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
@NeoRatt Part of the problem, I see, as people not caring about accurate representation. Just like port, remaster and remake. Which according to some people even on this website would mean that the amount of remakes is a surprisingly low number.
Let's use your Perfect Dark example. We have a 1st party owned IP being mainly developed by a 1st party studio with the support (key work, support) from a 3rd party. That's a first party game which can have the added description of having external support.
Let's suppose that Toys for Bob is making Spyro 4. MS owned IP, external studio. Second party.
Things get "complicated" because people start ignoring meaning. At that point, why bother. Just call Black Ops VII a JRPG, Doom an Animal Crossing clone, and the new Perfect Dark a spiritual successor to Superman 64.
Let me ask you this... Is Bayonetta 1st party for Nintendo?
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
@SMJ Ninja Gainden Dragon Sword for the DS was published by Ubisoft in Europe. So I'd guess it's also a Ubisoft title...
Ninja Gaiden is certainly getting around. We might own the IP as well and not even know it
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
@NeoRatt That would make it a 2nd party game. Just like the Zelda Oracle games and Minish Cap. 1st party IP, but developed by an external studio.
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
@FraserG So I guess words don't mean anything anymore in this industry. Ports/remasters/remakes and now 1st/2nd/3rd party.
Soon enough genres will mean nothing too.
"So, this is a first person shooters?"
"No, of course not. You play in first person and you shoot a lot, but we like to think of it as a traditional JRPG"
@trev666 and @Millionski I agree that at best it could be called second party
@NeoRatt I have. And since none of them are owned by MS, nor is the IP, they could have 50 studios working on it and it wouldn't change a thing.
Re: Xbox Has Three First-Party Games Coming Out Within 12 Days Of Each Other
I'm sorry, but why is Ninja Gaiden 4 being counted as 1st party? Xbox is the publisher, but not the developer.
Re: Gears Of War: E-Day Team Shares Message After Missing Xbox Games Showcase 2025
@themightyant I'm still catching up o Gears, maybe I'll be up to date by the time it releases.
But did we get Gears 6?
Re: Opinion: Crash Bandicoot 4 Will Be A Divisive Addition To Xbox Game Pass
@themightyant Spyro is a game none of my PS1-owning friends had. So I only played the remakes. I immediately fell in love. I wanted to try one of the DS ones people say it's actually ok, but the prices were too steep
Re: Two Huge Free Demos Were Added To The Xbox Store Last Night
@Lup I know the feeling. It's a game I've played a bunch at other people's houses back in the day, but never cared to own
Re: Full Specs Revealed For Both Versions Of The 2025 Xbox Handheld
@Cakefish If the next Xbox integrates Steam, Epic and GOG, I'll be a happy camper. I have a bunch of games (especially on GOG, thanks Amazon), but I don't like gaming on PC. So that would be a great reason to get the next hardware
Re: Forza On PS5 Has 'Easily' Made $100 Million For Xbox, Says Analyst
@OldGamer999 Astro Bot on Switch 2 before a 3D Mario game would sell insanely well.
Re: Xbox Is Giving Away Deathloop For Free, But Only The PC Version
It might eventually come to Prime Gaming.
I'm acutally hopeful they continue their 1st party publishing give aways there. I had only one of the new Wolfenstein games and now I have all of them.
Re: Opinion: Crash Bandicoot 4 Will Be A Divisive Addition To Xbox Game Pass
@themightyant I didn't quit, but I still consider Crash to be overrated. Crash hard is more akin to NES Ninja Gaiden hard than a game that's actually well designed with that in mind.
Heck! A friend of mine had a PS1 and he'd say any Crash game was waaay better than Mario 64. Since playing Crash I've questioned his sanity.
And Spyro is underrated and deserves a new game. Just throwing this out there
Re: Xbox's Latest Buy One, Get One Free Sale Features A Random Selection Of 'Retro' Titles
@RetroMan71 The PS360/Wii gen being retro really hurts one's back
Re: When Will The Xbox Summer Sale 2025 Be Revealed?
I've already got about 40 euro saved up in points. I hope they have games from my wishlist listed
I'd love for Pandora Tomorrow to be relisted... I have SC1 and Chaos Theory, but no PT (though I played it all the way back on GameCube)
Re: Report: BioShock Announcement Set For This Summer As 2K Prepares Franchise Return
I just hope it's actually Bioshock and not whatever Infinite and it's DLC (vomit) were.
Re: Xbox's 2027 Handheld Expected To Include Nintendo Switch-Like Docking System
@Banjo- I hope they get the price right. I love handheld gaming (I still play on DS and 3DS) and depending on the library and price, portables from Xbox and PS sound quite interesting to me. But if the price is not right and I gotta pick one, that's gonna be tough
Re: Xbox's 2027 Handheld Expected To Include Nintendo Switch-Like Docking System
@BacklogBrad The big problem is that devs spend so much money making a game, they can't take as many risks as they used to. So games become more of the same, but prettier.
The leap for this gen was held back by the jump in resolution. It takes a lot more horsepower to make the same thing, but in 4k, especially 4k60.
We won't have that jump for next gen. And I don't many devs will go crazy on 120fps. So there's great potential for a larger visual leap than this gen had. I just wish there was a significant leap in development and costs involved.
Re: Xbox's 2027 Handheld Expected To Include Nintendo Switch-Like Docking System
@themightyant I hadn't considered battery life. That's indeed a current impossibility.
A breakthrough in this sector is sorely needed. It'd be a whole new tech race if we had affordable batteries that lasted a lot longer and I miss a cool tech race
Re: Syberia - Remastered Delivers Huge Overhaul On Xbox Series X|S In 2025
@Kezelpaso I've given up talking about this to people online, because they'll call your opinion stupid while failing to present their own. I've recently tried for the first time on purexbox and the people who pretend to "know it all" vanished when they had to answer a few simple questions. Alas... I still blame Activision and the Crash trilogy for this mess
Re: Xbox's 2027 Handheld Expected To Include Nintendo Switch-Like Docking System
I see a hybrid/portable from Xbox and PS facing the same issues.
Scenario 1 - It's the same power level of the PS6/XboxSomething, so the price will be stupidly high, but it'll have tons of games.
Scenario 2 - It's as powerful as a PS5/SeriesX. It'll be more affordable, but it'll stop getting a steady release of games in 2 or 3 years.
The Switch works for Nintendo because of what it offers and the amount of games it gets for a lower price of hardware. I don't see either Xbox or PS being able to replicate that part.
Re: Square Enix Shares A Bunch Of New Kingdom Hearts 4 Screenshots
This is a series I had every reason to love... but I just can't get into it
Re: 'Fantasy Life i' Gets Fantastic First Review Ahead Of Series Debut On Xbox
"Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time would mark the series' first Xbox entry after almost three decades of waiting"
It's already hard to accept 2012 was 13 years ago. There's no need to write in a way to make it sound like 30. It's the company (Level-5) that's had Xbox wait a long time.
On a brighter note, I'm really looking forward to this one and I'm happy all consoles are getting it. But I'll stick to the Switch for the portability in this case.
Re: Xbox's New Job Advert Is Amazing News For Backwards Compatibility
@xeofate To give you a counter point and the one time I was not happy with them on this matter. NES/SNES games on the 3DS. They could've used their account system to make sure people who already owned them on Wii U didn't have to buy them again, but they didn't
I actually went the other way around. I got BotW on Switch at launch and some time later I got it on the Wii U to play around a bit. I figured that physical version will have some historical value some day.
Re: Xbox's New Job Advert Is Amazing News For Backwards Compatibility
@xeofate GB on GBA, GBA on DS, DS on 3DS, GC on Wii, Wii on Wii U. That's not counting Virtual Console and NSO. So basically every gen where it was feasible to have BC, Nintendo did it.
Re: Xbox Is Seemingly Making Preparations For Its 2025 Handheld Device
@LogicStrikesAgain A "portable Series S" for $450 would be an interesting strike. But given that they've just pushed the cheapest Series S to $380, I don't think that's feasible
Re: Why Are People Talking About GameCube Games On Xbox Series X?
Waaaay too risky. I'll stick with my physical games being played on my Wii, some remasters like Prime, and NSO on Switch 2.
I won't mess with Nintendo ninjas and Xbox ninjas at the same time. No, sir.
Re: GTA 6 Characters, Locations & Screenshots Revealed In Massive Info Blowout
I've only played Chinatown Wars on the DS. Once my backlog gets smaller on Series S, I plan to give IV a go. Buy the time I get to VI it this might be on sale from $99.99 to $39.99
Re: GTA 6 Gets A New Release Date As Rockstar Delays To May 2026
For just $99.99 for the base version, of course
Re: Prime Gaming's May 2025 List Includes Yet Another Free Xbox Game
I'm glad it's the Digital Deluxe Edition. I almost bought it recently on sale. At this point, I'll stop buying older (which were or became) first party titles and continue hoping they come via Prime Gaming.
Re: Oblivion Remastered: All Changes, Additions & New Content
@Strohl So, for instance... Super Mario RPG and Link's Awakening on Switch are not remakes then. In your view, at least. Did I get it right?
I could have list a bunch more, but thought better to stick to two to make sure I see your point clearly.
Re: Oblivion Remastered: All Changes, Additions & New Content
@Strohl Look, if you don't wanna answer me, just don't. There's no need for this sort of reply. But that's usually what I get on this topic, people can't answer the question, so they lash out.
Good day to you
Re: Oblivion Remastered: All Changes, Additions & New Content
@Strohl They just remade the visuals, gameplay, animations, interface and introduced several QOL features. I'm sorry, but would it take for you to call it a remake?
Re: Oblivion Remastered: All Changes, Additions & New Content
"Built entirely from the ground-up in Unreal Engine 5"
Looks like a remake, smells like a remake, plays like a remake... called a remaster. I'd rather they did what Capcom does and just use the name of the game again
Re: Oblivion Remastered PC File Size Leaks Ahead Of Rumoured Xbox Game Pass Launch
@IronMan30 Assassin's Creed Odyssey leaked because of a keychain if I'm not mistaken. At least it was a funny way to do it