I know a lot of people will be resistant to changes, but classic consoles are on their way out and that graph shows it.
I been a hardcore console gamer for decades, I'm one of the people that resisted PC and vouched for consoles simplicity but truth is PC is changing, and it's all thanks to Steam.
Since it's first failed attempt at a steam machine, Valve has been working hard to make PC gaming have more and more of the perks of playing on console: more compatibility, game controller support, attempting to fix shade compilation stutter by cache and sharing them. This at the same time that console launches become more unstable and require hotfixes.
For the last year, I been almost exclusively a PC gamer. I still love consoles, for nostalgic reasons, but most those perks are gone for newer releases (and by newer, I mean the last decade worth.)
As excited as I was to get my Series X at launch, mostly for NVME load speeds, I feel the thing came in too soon. I know it feels odd for older people but I think 10 year console cycles are ideal. 3D capabilities are just not evolving fast enough to justify generational jumps any faster.
I mean, isn't the general conception that the Series S is about 50% of the sales as it is? If so, that would mean that roughly 16% are White Series X and 34% Black Series X.
I remember my brother getting the Xbox Live kit for his Xbox. Until then I was not really into Xbox but the concept of playing games online fascinated me.
Sadly I was instantly harassed by men and quickly learned to detest online play because it was a perpetual pattern.
So, despite how much I love my Xbox, my earliest Xbox memory is not exactly a very positive one. To this day I refuse to play online with strangers.
First Xbox I owned myself was a 360 Elite model that I bought to play GTAIV.
The most likely case, given the OS can easily manage the dates: the programmer in charge of making that form simply thought that might be a reasonable value to enter in the date time picker control's Max Date field.
I'm with @BAMozzy. The volatility of the console market future makes me very unlikely to buy anything for consoles right now unless it's Play Anywhere. If it's not Xbox play anywhere, I'll get it on Steam. I am downscaling my console purchases to exclusives only, and even with Sony now I feel I'm better off waiting for the PC release 6/12 months later.
My current preference of purchases:
Xbox Play Anywhere > Steam > Nintendo Switch > PS > Xbox
That said, if I already have an entry in a series on Steam, I'm likely to prefer the sequels there because I can be twitchy about some game's achievement tracking.
$16.49 right now on steam. $20.99 if you want the definitive edition with all DLC. Just saying. Yes, I'm bitter and will understand if this gets taken down.
I mean if someone wants it more power to them and hope they take advantage of this. I could had been locked into this price for the rest of the year since my renewal day was today, but I don't want part of this clown show anymore.
Not like I have the time to take advantage of this.
I canceled. My renewal was today. With that timing I could had stuck to the current rate for the rest of the year but I don’t see a reason to keep giving them my money when chances are I won’t have time to take advantage of it anyways.
This is also making me reconsider my Rog Xbox Ally X preorder. There are still some advantages but without gamepass… it’s way less appealing since I can play most things on my steam deck, and those I can’t I can play on my PC.
I’ll still pick it up but chances are high I’ll return it.
You might want to do the math there because I'm nearly sure most indie games will cost less than the monthly subscription, unless you are a VERY active and proliferous gamer.
@FraserG I don't think the features were "forced on us for a fee" but instead they scrambled to find some features to make the price they had pre-determined feel less terrible.
"We doubled the price of your burgers but now they also have pickles! We can remove the pickles but the price still is double."
It is what it is, but it’s no longer a good deal for me and my limited available time. Cancelled. And the page seems overloaded because it took me way too long to even open the subscriptions page on my phone.
Preordered the X for mostly the same reasons @BAMozzy noted.
I have a SteamDeck and wish I could play PC GP games natively on it. There are still many games that just don't run on the SteamDeck. Having a steam big picture like UI AND being able to run games from any PC storefront sounds perfect to me.
It's expensive, I'll give you that, but I'm lucky I can afford it.
Managed to get my BestBuy preorder through. I just happened to be on my phone when the email that the preorders went live popped and I immediately hopped in to get mine.
I originally was thinking to just get the white model but thoughts of storage alone made me hop on the X.
A lot of people are going on how this will be a failure and the truth is this does not need to be a huge success. It's just some branded hardware for MS. It's also a test bed for their new handheld focused Windows version. No dev is going to have to specifically target this device, I imagine even pre-configured handheld options will just be the same setting template used on the SteamDeck for many games.
What is important here is the evolution of windows for gaming focused devices.
The price, honestly, is not terrible. Yes, it's a high number and not going to become a mainstream device, but it is very competitive with similarly specked handhelds.
Main reason I am getting it is because I still bump into games that just are not compatible with Steam's compatibility layer. It does not hurt that MS is also pushing a lot more aggressively on the Play Anywhere program, with many new announcements going into it now. Wish they could make that retroactive, though.
If the specs of the base model are comparable to the Steam deck in real life testing, I might get it for that price. I would wait a month or so, though. Don’t want to end up with an early production lemon.
100% yes. It would not be my top pick for a full-on remake (Ezio Trilogy as a remake would be ideal, or a big rewriting and expansion on AC 1...) but I still would play the hell out of it.
Heck I think AC3 would also make a way better remake, with expanded open world and finally properly making justice to the civil war battles with hundreads of NPCs battling it out....
But yes yes yes I would jump on AC4 remake.
Just ignore all the voices saying the Animus stuff has to be removed... my biggest complaint with Shadows was the Animus stuff was basically not there at all.
@Broosh yea, they have never been about preserving the feel as much as creating modern feeling controllers that work with those consoles and their games.
Sounds like an attempt to spin off profitable IPs and studios to a new entity that has outside investors while leaving the core company in financial trouble so it can eventually file for whatever the equivalent of chapter 11 bankruptcy is in France and potentially liquidate those assets without losing control of the viable business.
As for Ubisoft games, I personally have not been disappointed on any Far Cry or Assassin's Creed game (ok maybe Unity was a bit disappointing). Never understood why so many hate the games.
I can wait, but I find it funny that Avowed was rumored to be delayed mostly to avoid launching the same week as Assassin's Creed Shadows and here we are now...
We need a multi-resolution friendly port of the Xbox dashboard for windows as an alternative/replacement to the Windows Explorer.
Make it so it can be switched from one to the other via the start menu while in Desktop mode and via the ... whatever windows calls the side menu while on Xbox mode.
@HarmanSmith Another thing that would be amazing is if somehow MS managed to add an Xbox runtime to windows so computers with certain specs could just run the Xbox Series X or Series S version of games we already own.
I never bought a PS4 pro. I bought an XOX because I saw it for a deep discount on ebay that was under the MSRP of the Xbox One S.
TLDR: not much really. I think it would have to hit under $400-$450 for me to be interested. I already treat my PC as my "Xbox Pro".
Since Play Everywhere, every single first party game ends up having cross-buy and cross-save.
MS biggest achievement would be to lure more third party developers to adopt the Play Anywhere scheme where you can buy a game on XBox and also download it on PC.
@RedShirtRod You hit the nail on the competition point. That is the main reason. The international price shows what a market with poor competition looks like.
@Bobobiwan I was a PS4 fan girl, and I never got myself a Pro. I rocked my fat PS4 to its end.
I dont see the need for the increased visuals, honestly.
The video showcase actually stated that 3/4ths of players don't seem to care either, opting for performance modes over quality.
My biggest annoyance out of these mid-gen consoles are reviewers. I had to stop trusting reviewers because every reviewer would play the games on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, rarely bothering to test the performance of the games on the baseline (and most sold) models.
I was afraid xbox reviewers would do the same this gen but was glad they tend to at least try including notes on Series S performance. I fear starting next year, PlayStation reviews will become worthless, once again.
It includes percentage increases that show how high a tax would have to be to get the price there.
There are 5 states that have a 0% sales tax (Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon)
Highest state-level sales tax in the us is 7.25% (California). If you count local taxes, highest sales tax is 9.55% (some areas of Tennessee)
So cant see sales taxes having to do with the huge discrepancy.
I think it has more to do with the US being the one competitive battleground for Xbox. They may not be neck and neck, but they are strong enough that they need to actually compete.
There is a sales tax in the US to keep in mind, but adding the percentage increase in parenthesis above to show how high a regional tax would have to be to make that break even.
@FraserG I think there is a good article hidden in this announcement about how 3/4th of players opt for performance modes over quality modes.
Even Sony's own video seems to say (ironically paraphrased) "you can get the performance you want and already get but the devs get to be happy because you see the pixels they want you to see"
I dont think we ever seen any platform holder or dev give us any stats on how many players pick performance modes over quality.
And these costs are all without the disk drive!!! I have not seen enough but I will assume the new disk attachment for the new PS5 will work with this, thats another $79 in the US for anyone with a disk library like me.
The most telling bit of all of this, for me, is that in the video they themselves admit that 3/4ths of players opt to performance modes. I think that shows how little the bulk of the player base cares for the extra pixels. We don't need this. I will likely own one, in 10 years when I can get a used one.
Xbox does not need to chase this, there is next to no point on doing that.
Not sure why anyone cares the game goes to another plastic box. I will still play the game on my device and ecosystem of choice.
Buying any Xbox Game Studios title on Xbox will mean the game is also playable on PC, giving me the maximum flexibility to play whatever way I prefer.
As far as exclusivity, I think its better to have timed exclusives than perpetual exclusives. Look how many fantastic titles are locked behind old hardware due to dumb exclusivity deals or first party stubbornness.
My biggest grudge here is that’s just 3 cars. Wish we had gotten Fast and the Furious Don’s Dodge and Ghostbusters Ecto 1 instead of 3 versions of the Delorean.
Historically Fable has no character creator, only a selection of female or male. It is always your actions in the game (alignment and development) that change your character's appearance.
I doubt that will be different in this entry, given that's one of the most iconic traits of the series.
That aside, I don't understand anyone complaining about the appearance of the character that has been used on screen so far.
My personal (meaningless) opinion is that Xbox does not need a huge library of exclusive games. They just need a small set of games and IPs that are only on Xbox, and a few other that are Xbox first.
When your operation grows as large as Xbox games studios had, it’s on their best interest to minimize risk on many releases by publishing on as many platforms as possible.
Ideally, the likes of Halo, Gears and Fable should continue to be Xbox exclusive.
South of Midnight jumped to the top of my Xbox Games Studios want list. It looks phenomenal!
Indiana Jones looks amazing, they are nailing the vibe.
Doom Dark Ages looks fantastic.
I am oddly less into Avowed this time around, will still play it but perhaps its due to so many other things in the show overshadowing it this time.
Fable still looking great.
Intrigued by the Starfield expansion. I was a bit disappointed by the base game, but to be fair that's always the case with all Bethesda games for me. Their games only get **really** good (for me) when the expansions/dlc launch.
Many more things have me interested. They definitively had more to show than they had time and that's awesome.
My advice to MS: just kill day one. Make it month 3, or month 6. Increasing the price is very likely going to come at the loss of a lot of loyalty (if some survived this week).
They know everyone working on games that are not “high impact” saw the writing in the wall and are panicking, likely already submitting resumes and getting ready to run before they get fired.
This is just an attempt at placating those developers to stick around “because we need you for awards… and we will fire you after we get those awards!”
I’m jumping ship. Bought my last Xbox console game. I’ll play the ones I own, but from now on Steam it is. No more GamePass I think either. I had a huge library of PS4 games and also jumped ship over disagreeing with their direction.
Honestly it sounds like Phill lost control of the ship, and someone else is now in command.
Honestly… it’s starting to sound like ABK acquired Microsoft instead of the other way around…
@HonestHick 343 is a sunk cost fallacy at this point. How m any times have they "fixed" things and "next entry will be the good one"?
I'm sure if they could "fix" 343, they could also had fixed any issues that was going on with Tango. Shutting it down does not only means them giving up on Japan directly but also indirectly. Whom is going to trust them now? Even if it was easy, what Japanese studio will sell out to MS now?
@themightyant Personally, I am sticking with my Xbox. I have two XSX and an XSS. But I'm not sticking with Game Pass. I just canceled that subscription and MS will have to work hard at getting me to re-subscribe. I have plenty of a backlog of games I own on Xbox digitally and will continue to play those games, but going forward, I'm just sticking to PC and Steam whenever I can.
@NEStalgia, for all purposes any PC is a Steam Box. I know its not as slick as booting right into the OS, but with minor fiddling you can have a dedicated PC always booting into big picture mode, and you can always go the extra mile if you feel crazy and install Steam OS.
@HonestHick reread my post. I understand layoffs. This is about stupid choices. Shut down studios that deserve it, like 343.
And I am not setting my money on fire. I'll continue using my Xbox to play all the games I own. I just won't be paying more on Game Pass. I got plenty to enjoy without having to give them money every month despite the fact that I don't actually play GP games every single month. They were getting a lot of my money out of pure good will. Thats over with.
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Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Vs. PS5 Sales Data Shared As Game Reportedly Hits 20 Million Copies Sold
I know a lot of people will be resistant to changes, but classic consoles are on their way out and that graph shows it.
I been a hardcore console gamer for decades, I'm one of the people that resisted PC and vouched for consoles simplicity but truth is PC is changing, and it's all thanks to Steam.
Since it's first failed attempt at a steam machine, Valve has been working hard to make PC gaming have more and more of the perks of playing on console: more compatibility, game controller support, attempting to fix shade compilation stutter by cache and sharing them. This at the same time that console launches become more unstable and require hotfixes.
For the last year, I been almost exclusively a PC gamer. I still love consoles, for nostalgic reasons, but most those perks are gone for newer releases (and by newer, I mean the last decade worth.)
Re: Talking Point: Will The Next Xbox Console Be Revealed In 2026?
As excited as I was to get my Series X at launch, mostly for NVME load speeds, I feel the thing came in too soon. I know it feels odd for older people but I think 10 year console cycles are ideal. 3D capabilities are just not evolving fast enough to justify generational jumps any faster.
Re: In The US, 66% Of Xbox Series X|S Sales Were Digital-Only In 2025
I mean, isn't the general conception that the Series S is about 50% of the sales as it is? If so, that would mean that roughly 16% are White Series X and 34% Black Series X.
Re: Talking Point: As Xbox Celebrates 25 Years, What's Your First Ever Xbox Memory?
I remember my brother getting the Xbox Live kit for his Xbox. Until then I was not really into Xbox but the concept of playing games online fascinated me.
Sadly I was instantly harassed by men and quickly learned to detest online play because it was a perpetual pattern.
So, despite how much I love my Xbox, my earliest Xbox memory is not exactly a very positive one. To this day I refuse to play online with strangers.
First Xbox I owned myself was a 360 Elite model that I bought to play GTAIV.
Re: Xbox 360 User Shows What'll Happen When It Reaches Date Limit On December 31st, 2025
The most likely case, given the OS can easily manage the dates: the programmer in charge of making that form simply thought that might be a reasonable value to enter in the date time picker control's Max Date field.
Re: Xbox Fan Thinks They've Discovered More 'Play Anywhere' Titles Being Added Soon
I'm with @BAMozzy. The volatility of the console market future makes me very unlikely to buy anything for consoles right now unless it's Play Anywhere. If it's not Xbox play anywhere, I'll get it on Steam. I am downscaling my console purchases to exclusives only, and even with Sony now I feel I'm better off waiting for the PC release 6/12 months later.
My current preference of purchases:
Xbox Play Anywhere > Steam > Nintendo Switch > PS > Xbox
That said, if I already have an entry in a series on Steam, I'm likely to prefer the sequels there because I can be twitchy about some game's achievement tracking.
Re: Xbox May Have Accidentally Leaked Mortal Kombat 1 For Game Pass
$16.49 right now on steam.
$20.99 if you want the definitive edition with all DLC.
Just saying.
Yes, I'm bitter and will understand if this gets taken down.
Re: PSA: You Can Still Get Xbox Game Pass Ultimate For $19.99 Right Now
I mean if someone wants it more power to them and hope they take advantage of this. I could had been locked into this price for the rest of the year since my renewal day was today, but I don't want part of this clown show anymore.
Not like I have the time to take advantage of this.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Plans For Xbox Game Pass After This Week's News?
I canceled. My renewal was today. With that timing I could had stuck to the current rate for the rest of the year but I don’t see a reason to keep giving them my money when chances are I won’t have time to take advantage of it anyways.
This is also making me reconsider my Rog Xbox Ally X preorder. There are still some advantages but without gamepass… it’s way less appealing since I can play most things on my steam deck, and those I can’t I can play on my PC.
I’ll still pick it up but chances are high I’ll return it.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Premium May Be The Best-Value Tier Right Now, With Almost 50 Games Added
@Tdx
You might want to do the math there because I'm nearly sure most indie games will cost less than the monthly subscription, unless you are a VERY active and proliferous gamer.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Premium May Be The Best-Value Tier Right Now, With Almost 50 Games Added
@FraserG I don't think the features were "forced on us for a fee" but instead they scrambled to find some features to make the price they had pre-determined feel less terrible.
"We doubled the price of your burgers but now they also have pickles! We can remove the pickles but the price still is double."
BTW does PC gamepass keeps day 1 and CoD games?
Re: Here's A Breakdown Of All The New Prices For Xbox Game Pass As Of October 2025
@FraserG I’m confused the last row in the table either is shifted or has the wrong currency symbols. Is the US price £16.99 (uk pounds)? 😵💫
Re: Xbox Game Pass Is Getting A Major Overhaul With New Names, Games & Price Changes
It is what it is, but it’s no longer a good deal for me and my limited available time. Cancelled.
And the page seems overloaded because it took me way too long to even open the subscriptions page on my phone.
Re: Talking Point: So, Did You End Up Pre-Ordering The ROG Xbox Ally?
Preordered the X for mostly the same reasons @BAMozzy noted.
I have a SteamDeck and wish I could play PC GP games natively on it. There are still many games that just don't run on the SteamDeck. Having a steam big picture like UI AND being able to run games from any PC storefront sounds perfect to me.
It's expensive, I'll give you that, but I'm lucky I can afford it.
Re: The ROG Xbox Ally Is Rapidly Selling Out At Retailers Around The World
Managed to get my BestBuy preorder through. I just happened to be on my phone when the email that the preorders went live popped and I immediately hopped in to get mine.
I originally was thinking to just get the white model but thoughts of storage alone made me hop on the X.
A lot of people are going on how this will be a failure and the truth is this does not need to be a huge success. It's just some branded hardware for MS. It's also a test bed for their new handheld focused Windows version. No dev is going to have to specifically target this device, I imagine even pre-configured handheld options will just be the same setting template used on the SteamDeck for many games.
What is important here is the evolution of windows for gaming focused devices.
The price, honestly, is not terrible. Yes, it's a high number and not going to become a mainstream device, but it is very competitive with similarly specked handhelds.
Main reason I am getting it is because I still bump into games that just are not compatible with Steam's compatibility layer. It does not hurt that MS is also pushing a lot more aggressively on the Play Anywhere program, with many new announcements going into it now. Wish they could make that retroactive, though.
Re: Best Buy Lists Prices For ROG Xbox Ally Before Quickly Removing Them
If the specs of the base model are comparable to the Steam deck in real life testing, I might get it for that price. I would wait a month or so, though. Don’t want to end up with an early production lemon.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Play An Assassin's Creed: Black Flag Remake?
100% yes. It would not be my top pick for a full-on remake (Ezio Trilogy as a remake would be ideal, or a big rewriting and expansion on AC 1...) but I still would play the hell out of it.
Heck I think AC3 would also make a way better remake, with expanded open world and finally properly making justice to the civil war battles with hundreads of NPCs battling it out....
But yes yes yes I would jump on AC4 remake.
Just ignore all the voices saying the Animus stuff has to be removed... my biggest complaint with Shadows was the Animus stuff was basically not there at all.
Re: Xbox Handheld Is Called 'ROG Xbox Ally', Releases Holiday 2025
I’m very likely to throw a lot of money away buying this thing…
Re: Retro Fighters Returns With A Brand-New Wireless Xbox 360 Controller In 2025
@Broosh yea, they have never been about preserving the feel as much as creating modern feeling controllers that work with those consoles and their games.
Re: 'Oblivion Remastered' Images Leak Ahead Of Imminent Xbox Release
Why the remaster screenshots look so…. Brown and dull?????
Re: Report: Ubisoft Founders Considering A New Business 'Venture' Using Certain Franchises
Sounds like an attempt to spin off profitable IPs and studios to a new entity that has outside investors while leaving the core company in financial trouble so it can eventually file for whatever the equivalent of chapter 11 bankruptcy is in France and potentially liquidate those assets without losing control of the viable business.
As for Ubisoft games, I personally have not been disappointed on any Far Cry or Assassin's Creed game (ok maybe Unity was a bit disappointing). Never understood why so many hate the games.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, This Time To March 2025
I can wait, but I find it funny that Avowed was rumored to be delayed mostly to avoid launching the same week as Assassin's Creed Shadows and here we are now...
Re: Xbox Wants To Bring A Console Experience To PC Handhelds In 2025
We need a multi-resolution friendly port of the Xbox dashboard for windows as an alternative/replacement to the Windows Explorer.
Make it so it can be switched from one to the other via the start menu while in Desktop mode and via the ... whatever windows calls the side menu while on Xbox mode.
Re: Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza In Hawaii Launches February 2025 On Xbox
Remember back in the day when Square would crank out RPGs yearly, sometimes multiple a year?
This reminds me of that, and I love it.
Now I need to get off my rear and get caught up on this series!!!
Re: Poll: How Much Would You Pay For An Xbox Series X Pro?
@HarmanSmith Another thing that would be amazing is if somehow MS managed to add an Xbox runtime to windows so computers with certain specs could just run the Xbox Series X or Series S version of games we already own.
Re: Poll: How Much Would You Pay For An Xbox Series X Pro?
I never bought a PS4 pro.
I bought an XOX because I saw it for a deep discount on ebay that was under the MSRP of the Xbox One S.
TLDR: not much really. I think it would have to hit under $400-$450 for me to be interested. I already treat my PC as my "Xbox Pro".
Since Play Everywhere, every single first party game ends up having cross-buy and cross-save.
MS biggest achievement would be to lure more third party developers to adopt the Play Anywhere scheme where you can buy a game on XBox and also download it on PC.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Pro's Extortionate Price Justifies Xbox's Lack Of A New Console
@RedShirtRod You hit the nail on the competition point. That is the main reason. The international price shows what a market with poor competition looks like.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Pro's Extortionate Price Justifies Xbox's Lack Of A New Console
@Bobobiwan I was a PS4 fan girl, and I never got myself a Pro. I rocked my fat PS4 to its end.
I dont see the need for the increased visuals, honestly.
The video showcase actually stated that 3/4ths of players don't seem to care either, opting for performance modes over quality.
My biggest annoyance out of these mid-gen consoles are reviewers. I had to stop trusting reviewers because every reviewer would play the games on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, rarely bothering to test the performance of the games on the baseline (and most sold) models.
I was afraid xbox reviewers would do the same this gen but was glad they tend to at least try including notes on Series S performance. I fear starting next year, PlayStation reviews will become worthless, once again.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Pro's Extortionate Price Justifies Xbox's Lack Of A New Console
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@datamonkey There are 5 states that have a 0% sales tax (Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon)
Highest state-level sales tax in the us is 7.25% (California). If you count local taxes, highest sales tax is 9.55% (some areas of Tennessee)
So that does not explain those huge discrepancies.
Re: Sony's PS5 Pro Seems Unlikely To Get An Xbox Equivalent This Holiday
@Ilyn Posted an updated price list here
It includes percentage increases that show how high a tax would have to be to get the price there.
There are 5 states that have a 0% sales tax (Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon)
Highest state-level sales tax in the us is 7.25% (California). If you count local taxes, highest sales tax is 9.55% (some areas of Tennessee)
So cant see sales taxes having to do with the huge discrepancy.
I think it has more to do with the US being the one competitive battleground for Xbox. They may not be neck and neck, but they are strong enough that they need to actually compete.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Pro's Extortionate Price Justifies Xbox's Lack Of A New Console
Reposting here since its relevant, the regional pricing is out of wack!
€799 = $880.98 (+26%)
₤699 = $913.10 (+30%)
¥119,980 = $841.66 (+20%)
$699.99 is already crazy expensive, but why those insane fluctuations by country?
Add the disk drive for anyone with a back catalog that still wants access to their disk media:
$779.99
€919 = $1,013 (+30%)
₤799 = $1,043.49 (+34%)
¥131960 = $926.89 (+19%)
There is a sales tax in the US to keep in mind, but adding the percentage increase in parenthesis above to show how high a regional tax would have to be to make that break even.
Re: Sony's PS5 Pro Seems Unlikely To Get An Xbox Equivalent This Holiday
@FraserG I think there is a good article hidden in this announcement about how 3/4th of players opt for performance modes over quality modes.
Even Sony's own video seems to say (ironically paraphrased) "you can get the performance you want and already get but the devs get to be happy because you see the pixels they want you to see"
I dont think we ever seen any platform holder or dev give us any stats on how many players pick performance modes over quality.
Re: Sony's PS5 Pro Seems Unlikely To Get An Xbox Equivalent This Holiday
OH my what is it with those prices???
€799 = $880.98
₤699 = $913.10
¥119,980 = $841.66
$699 is already crazy expensive, but why those insane fluctuations by country?
edit to add estimate with the disk drive attachment bought separately
$779
€919 = $1,013
₤799 = $1,043.49
¥131960 = $926.89
And these costs are all without the disk drive!!! I have not seen enough but I will assume the new disk attachment for the new PS5 will work with this, thats another $79 in the US for anyone with a disk library like me.
The most telling bit of all of this, for me, is that in the video they themselves admit that 3/4ths of players opt to performance modes. I think that shows how little the bulk of the player base cares for the extra pixels. We don't need this. I will likely own one, in 10 years when I can get a used one.
Xbox does not need to chase this, there is next to no point on doing that.
Re: Xbox Legend Major Nelson Asks For 'More Varied Experiences' At Lower Price Points
I would love to go back to the days where games would take 2-3 years to develop and take 8-20 hours to beat.
More things like Assassin's Creed Mirage!
Re: Indiana Jones And The Great Circle Hits Xbox This December, And A PS5 Port Is Officially Coming
Not sure why anyone cares the game goes to another plastic box. I will still play the game on my device and ecosystem of choice.
Buying any Xbox Game Studios title on Xbox will mean the game is also playable on PC, giving me the maximum flexibility to play whatever way I prefer.
As far as exclusivity, I think its better to have timed exclusives than perpetual exclusives. Look how many fantastic titles are locked behind old hardware due to dumb exclusivity deals or first party stubbornness.
Re: Microsoft Provides More Detail On Its New Xbox Game Pass Standard Tier
@Ooccoo_Jr this may actually be easier to understand than the current model.
Currently:
core gives you a handful of games and online access
Console gives you the whole library but no online access
Ultimate gives you both
Now each tier is an upgrade over the last.
Core: handful of games and online
Standard: that plus more games
Ultimate: that plus even more games, many of them day one. Oh and streaming.
This is what I been predicting they would do for years now! Although I never thought they would increase ultimate’s price tag so high.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 'Universal Icons' Car Pack Brings Star-Studded Lineup To Xbox
My biggest grudge here is that’s just 3 cars. Wish we had gotten Fast and the Furious Don’s Dodge and Ghostbusters Ecto 1 instead of 3 versions of the Delorean.
Re: Fable Officially Returns To Xbox In 2025, Featuring Even More Snarky Humour
Historically Fable has no character creator, only a selection of female or male. It is always your actions in the game (alignment and development) that change your character's appearance.
I doubt that will be different in this entry, given that's one of the most iconic traits of the series.
That aside, I don't understand anyone complaining about the appearance of the character that has been used on screen so far.
Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6 Will Require A 'Continuous' Internet Connection (Yes, Even Campaign)
And despite this the install will still eat 300 gb this time around! 🙃
Re: Xbox: 'You Are Going To See More Of Our Games On More Platforms'
My personal (meaningless) opinion is that Xbox does not need a huge library of exclusive games. They just need a small set of games and IPs that are only on Xbox, and a few other that are Xbox first.
When your operation grows as large as Xbox games studios had, it’s on their best interest to minimize risk on many releases by publishing on as many platforms as possible.
Ideally, the likes of Halo, Gears and Fable should continue to be Xbox exclusive.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2024?
A, cant see the show being better without it being a 4 hour show. We know for a fact they did not show everything they have under their sleeves!
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2024
My quick reactions:
Many more things have me interested. They definitively had more to show than they had time and that's awesome.
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2024
@TheSimulator Gears "6" is E-Day and I don't see them talking about PS on an Xbox Showcase. Even what they said about CoD never mentioned PS by name.
Re: Xbox Announces Three New Series X|S Consoles Launching In 2024
If I did not already own 2 XSX, I would get that Special Edition Xbox for my office.
Maybe I can sell one of the XSX or turn it into a gift for someone in my social circle.
Re: Xbox Reportedly Considering Game Pass Price Hike To Accommodate Call Of Duty
Already unsubscribed yesterday.
My advice to MS: just kill day one. Make it month 3, or month 6. Increasing the price is very likely going to come at the loss of a lot of loyalty (if some survived this week).
Re: Xbox Apparently Still Needs Smaller Games For 'Prestige And Awards'
Hot air.
They know everyone working on games that are not “high impact” saw the writing in the wall and are panicking, likely already submitting resumes and getting ready to run before they get fired.
This is just an attempt at placating those developers to stick around “because we need you for awards… and we will fire you after we get those awards!”
Re: Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures
I’m jumping ship. Bought my last Xbox console game. I’ll play the ones I own, but from now on Steam it is. No more GamePass I think either. I had a huge library of PS4 games and also jumped ship over disagreeing with their direction.
Honestly it sounds like Phill lost control of the ship, and someone else is now in command.
Honestly… it’s starting to sound like ABK acquired Microsoft instead of the other way around…
Re: Former Blizzard President Gives Support To Phil Spencer Amidst Xbox Negativity
@HonestHick 343 is a sunk cost fallacy at this point. How m any times have they "fixed" things and "next entry will be the good one"?
I'm sure if they could "fix" 343, they could also had fixed any issues that was going on with Tango. Shutting it down does not only means them giving up on Japan directly but also indirectly. Whom is going to trust them now? Even if it was easy, what Japanese studio will sell out to MS now?
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Push Towards 'Microsoft Gaming' Looks More Drastic Than We First Thought
@themightyant Personally, I am sticking with my Xbox. I have two XSX and an XSS. But I'm not sticking with Game Pass. I just canceled that subscription and MS will have to work hard at getting me to re-subscribe. I have plenty of a backlog of games I own on Xbox digitally and will continue to play those games, but going forward, I'm just sticking to PC and Steam whenever I can.
@NEStalgia, for all purposes any PC is a Steam Box. I know its not as slick as booting right into the OS, but with minor fiddling you can have a dedicated PC always booting into big picture mode, and you can always go the extra mile if you feel crazy and install Steam OS.
Re: Former Blizzard President Gives Support To Phil Spencer Amidst Xbox Negativity
@HonestHick reread my post. I understand layoffs. This is about stupid choices. Shut down studios that deserve it, like 343.
And I am not setting my money on fire. I'll continue using my Xbox to play all the games I own. I just won't be paying more on Game Pass. I got plenty to enjoy without having to give them money every month despite the fact that I don't actually play GP games every single month. They were getting a lot of my money out of pure good will. Thats over with.