MattWithoutFear

You can almost smell the desperation lmao

Mine says NO FEAR ... obvs

@Xeno_Aura result! Thank you! Completely missed this article.

Wasn't able to test this this morning and can't find confirmation online - if you download Skyrim SE through Game Pass, are you eligible for the £15.99 upgrade or do you have to pay the full whack?

"Shpeshal Ed", Shpeshal Nick's evil twin. Don't trust that guy

@RedKnight34 don't tease us like this!

Pretty sure the release date was originally slated for 7th Dec so I wonder if this is partly to get out of Halo's way?

@CelestialOhio32 The assumption was that @Lupaie79 didn't play Forza games cos he didn't know they got delisted digitally, which came across (to me) as a bit a condescending. And bringing up how it's different in GT is perfectly legit IMO; it's comparing apples to apples (racing games).

Any word on upgrade options if you already have Crysis Remastered?

@Richnj thanks for the honest feedback bud.

@The_New_Butler @Xiovanni pretty sure that middle button on the elite series 2 controllers is for switching controller profiles, it's not a dedicated share button.

Ooof £180 though. That's almost the cost of a Series S! Are these elite controllers really worth the money?

This looks awesome, wish it showed more gameplay

@Fenbops but GP's big USP over, say, Sony's offering, is the Day 1 release. If it's attracting buggy games though, that lessens the appeal. Just think, if Death's Door had come to GP instead of the Ascent, we'd all be talking about how GP had succeeded in its promise of delivering great games "for free" on launch, rather than this narrative of "another buggy Day 1 GP release".

@SplooshDmg different strokes for different folks I guess. This is the 3rd hyped co-op title that's come to GP and has been buggy at launch - Outriders, Dark Alliance and now this. @LtSarge isn't wrong when he talks about damage to the brand. GP is meant to be this ultimate service for gamers but it's in danger of turning into something like a bargain bin - instead of it delivering the next big thing, people (myself increasingly so) will start to think "OK it's not great but it was "free" so can I compain?". I'm certainly going to be tempering expectations for 3rd party releases moving forward, along the lines of "you get what you pay for", and I'm not sure that's the direction that MS wants to take it in.

Played it online last night with my brother, good gameplay but ran into more than a few bugs and had to put it down - one or both of us getting stuck in dialogue loops, some side-quests not being be added to one of us, problems inviting him back in when we had to crash out, not being able to exit the game through the menu (literally nothing happened, had to quit to Xbox home). It's a shame because the gameplay was really solid but it we had to crash out several times in a 4 hour session, hope it gets sorted with a few patches.

I play online with my brother and we're currently making our way through the Gears franchise, but we're hitting pause to try this out this week. I wonder if it will be a serious game or if there'll be comedic tones along the lines of the Jemaine Clement trailer?

@somnambulance yeah $45/£30 would be the sweet spot for me.

@somnambulance the original mod was only about 8 hours but remember we're talking about a player-made quest mod; it's a bit unrealistic to expect it should be the length of Skyrim(!). The quality was amazing though and they say they've expanded the dialogue and ending options for this full release.

Is this on top of the previous patch from January that targeted 4K30?
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/01/star_wars_jedi_fallen_order_receives_next-gen_enhancement_update

@uptownsoul And that's fine, and if it was profit per console that was the deciding factor then I might agree that they might wind down. But there so many more factors that go into, like:

• people like consoles, they just do
• console performance > streaming performance; it's not apples to apples comparing the two and that matters to people.
• consoles have other benefits that a streaming stick likely wouldn't have (apps, party etc) assuming the stick is a streaming library only
• more Xboxes out means more games purchases (people with game pass spend more on games and/or doc for their consoles, this have been evidenced over and over).
  So there are intangibles that suggest that MS is in fact reliant on consoles for it's games model. They can afford not to make a profit because the overall ROI is there.

@uptownsoul That's not "the fact" and you know it, you're jumping through hoops to avoid what I mean. The "fact" I was referring to is just the act of them just saying it; the fact is they're saying they're committed to consoles. I'm fully open to the possibility that you might be right, however in this case the evidence doesn't support your claim that MS will be winding down on consoles.

@uptownsoul "I think this means Microsoft might start pulling away from the console space"
Microsoft: don't worry this doesn't mean we're pulling away from the console space
"Yeah but that's BS"

You can't point to the few times Microsoft said something was coming and it didn't happen, in the face of all the things they said would happen and those did, as if that proves your point. It gets to the point where you're just being obtuse in the face of facts and can't accept that your opinion might have been wrong. Just be a big boy, accept it and move on.

@uptownsoul this site literally just published an article highlighting that MS have said they're not abandoning consoles. Give it a rest, mate.
"Cloud is key to our hardware and Game Pass roadmaps, but no one should think we're slowing down on our core console engineering. In fact, we're accelerating it."
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/06/microsoft_is_already_working_on_new_xbox_consoles_but_dont_expect_to_see_them_soon

@uptownsoul https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/06/microsoft_is_already_working_on_new_xbox_consoles_but_dont_expect_to_see_them_soon
'nuff said...

@uptownsoul Microsoft just produced the most powerful console ever and it defo wasn't a swansong. Until streaming tech can match console performance, people won't accept that as the only platform, and MS know that. If you think otherwise, you're kidding yourself. This is just about getting the Xbox platform in front of as many people as possible because that all equals GP revenue.

And Microsoft binned Mixed because they realised they weren't gonna compete with Twitch. Not that that's got anything to do with this conversation; sounds like a sore spot of yours though.

@uptownsoul they've never had good ROI on their consoles. The reason the 360 came out before the PS3 is because they rushed the production because they were losing so much on the OG Xbox. They stated in the Epic trial that they've never made a profit on console sales. MS is a trillion (TRILLION!) dollar company, they don't care about ROI on consoles. This GP streaming device would just be another revenue stream to target people who don't want to, or can't, buy a second console but still want to play all the Xbox exclusives (Bethesda et al). For Playstation folks who want to play Elder Scrolls, this could be a great "in".

@themightyant I'd buy that even if it was 1080p upscaled. Ratchet and Clank looks gorgeous and I'd love to play GoW and Spider-Man. Exclusives-only streaming device? If I could sign up when I wanted it, that would be great.

@themightyant 100%, definitely an alternative option for cost-minded folk as opposed to a replacement.

@uptownsoul I don't think consoles are going away any time soon. So many people love owning physical consoles and the performace will still beat average streaming for years to come; fibre internet rollout hasn't even cracked the US or the UK, let alone globally. The world you're dreaming of will happen, eventually, but I don't think it'll be this decade.

Yes! This was one of the best Skyrim mods ever, glad to see the full release coming to Xbox.

Is this just going to affect multiplayer PvP or will online coop die as well? My brother and I just picked these up in the sale to play coop lol. Presumably single player will still be fine?

I grabbed Control Ultimate Edition, had an £8 gift card from MS so only cost me a tenner for the 4K60 glory.

Outriders for me. Played the demo with my brother and we thought it was solid. However, not wanting to wait for our next coop fix, we grabbed the Division 2 on sale before the Game Pass announcement was made, so now I'm soloing my character.

Got mine last night £8 voucher through the Xbox app on my phone.